Reports: Osman signs new two-year deal

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Leon Osman has signed a two-year contract extension with Everton according to reports, one that will tie him to the Blues until the end of the 2014-15 season.

The 32 year-old remained a mainstay in the Everton midfield this season in David Moyes's last campaign in charge and his form was recognised at international level where he won his first full England cap under Roy Hodgson.

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Bjørn-Ivar Pedersen
1 Posted 22/05/2013 at 00:20:54
Strange one this...aren't this something the new manager shall decide?

Now will he get stuck with someone he might not seem fit for his play, and with this age he is like unsalable. If this is Moyes who do this, then he should be removed from office right away. What he do now is abusing this clubs finances in a wasteful way. It's like he want to fuck it up for us before he leave... IF it is him throwing around this contract and maybe others.

Eugene Ruane
2 Posted 22/05/2013 at 00:38:17
If (nb: IF) this is true, it is a total and utter disgrace.

Jackie Barry
3 Posted 22/05/2013 at 01:02:01
I agree Eugene, not saying he does not deserve a contract extension but it should be for the new manager to decide that's for sure.
Derek Thomas
4 Posted 22/05/2013 at 01:02:15
One year max, his legs are gone at 70mins as it is....I hope he wasn't given a rise as well.
Steve Edwards
5 Posted 22/05/2013 at 01:08:17
Worse case, he'll do a good job as a squad member. Chill out, he's a current England international.
Ben Jones
6 Posted 22/05/2013 at 02:15:12
Don't see a problem with it. Important to keep our own at the club, and Osman's had a good season. Versatility will make him a good bit part player for the next couple of years, no problem with it at all.
Phil Gardner
7 Posted 22/05/2013 at 02:16:53
Ambre solaire time for Leon....for the next two years if he fancies it, irrespective of what his new boss thinks.....unless......his new boss has already approved the deal, on account of him being at Finch Farm already........(cue conspiratorial background music....)
Viv Sharma
8 Posted 22/05/2013 at 02:24:16
Loyal true-blue who despite being hounded on here is a good professional (and a decent lad btw) and an England International. He and his kind should be kept at all costs until the day we get bought out by a billionaire.

I personally see his talents FAR outweighing his shortcomings, but I accept this is not what everyone feels. Much better than blowing £20M on a Jordan Henderson type! I for one and very happy to hear this.

Bob Parrington
9 Posted 22/05/2013 at 02:33:59
Agree Strange decision unless the long call with Pip (as the soon to be announced manager) included a decision over whether or not to extend Leon's contract. In principle Leon should be offered a new contract but it should be agreed with the new manager..... my view.
Roman Sidey
10 Posted 22/05/2013 at 02:44:06
Imagine, two yeas from now, how he'll be pulling up at half time. True professional, good lad? So fecking what? We have put up with far too many players not cutting the mustard just because they are "model professionals" for too long.
Patrick Murphy
11 Posted 22/05/2013 at 02:59:20
The more I read about the Blues the more annoyed I'm getting if Osman signs it signals that Barkley will join his ex-boss at OT, a player who he deemed wasn't good enough to grace our first team save a couple of appearances and who is believed to be willing to pay around £12m for.

Osman isn't a bad lad and at a club who could afford to carry passengers I wouldn't knock him having an extension of his contract, but we can't afford passengers and we need to bring the overall age down and to have legs in the middle of the park.

We are run like a charity eleven by a man who couldn't run a bath.

Paul Ferry
12 Posted 22/05/2013 at 03:05:32
What Eugene (088) said – a fucking disgrace.
Peter Jones
13 Posted 22/05/2013 at 03:32:19
I'm ok with this as long as Barkley is kept/favored most games. Still a totally useful player to have for a premier league season. Patrick, how messed up would it be if Moyes took Barkley and then started playing him regularly at united after holding out on us all season?!?!?
Roman Sidey
14 Posted 22/05/2013 at 03:18:45
Patrick, you've just made me realise the whole issue with Barkley this season.

Moyes has known about the Man Utd gig since late last year. He knew he'd want to take Ross with him, but didn't want to turn up to OT and ask for 20m for one of his old boys. So, he only played him sparingly, but in high profile games so that he would get a bit of notice, but not against the garbage sides so he couldn't have too many games. Now, he'll be a 10-13m pound signing instead of the 20-23 he could have been had he "done a Rooney".

Roman Sidey
15 Posted 22/05/2013 at 03:37:12
And by "old boys" I just meant a player from his old club. Obviously Ross isn't an "old boy" yet.
Rob Smith
16 Posted 22/05/2013 at 05:01:47
Great, another 2 years of missed goals, imploring looks, bumped off the ball, miss timed passes. FFS, any incoming manager will be just so thrilled with that signature.
Ernie Baywood
17 Posted 22/05/2013 at 05:24:54
Clearest indication yet, along with the fact we haven't actually approached anyone, that the next manager is decided and is already at the club.
Tim Jones
18 Posted 22/05/2013 at 05:49:46
Where there's smoke there's fire. Was Osmans contract up? If not why the indecent haste to give him a new one. No reason at all to do so even if it was up as he is not a transfer target unless other teams want a powder puff who can't shoot and runs out of steam half way through games.
So the question raises itself did Manchester Uniteds manager authorize this interference in Evertons 2013/2014 season and if so why was he allowed to do so and if not then WHO did authorize it and why could it not be left for the "NEW' manager to confirm who HE wants or does not want at Everton. Seems the 'NEW' managers authority has already been compromised by a useless incompetent Billy Liar.
Eric Myles
19 Posted 22/05/2013 at 05:58:20
Patrick #109, Osman won't be a passenger if you're right about Barkley going.
Peter Warren
20 Posted 22/05/2013 at 06:02:23
Good news. If the new man wants to sell him, he can in the knowledge Osman can't let his contract run down. It would be a strange decision in my view to sell Osman as I can't imagine us getting much money and he tries his best, has skill and does a job for us and loves the club.
Ian Hollingworth
21 Posted 22/05/2013 at 07:41:42
You could not make this fucking pantomine up!!

Or maybe the 'new' manager did make the decision from within?

Whats the beting Stoke install a new manager fairly pronto and Billy fucking Liar is still prancing about mourning Moyes.

Anthony Flack
22 Posted 22/05/2013 at 07:49:47
Shit the vitriol expressed by some against the same old targets is nonsense, great express a opinion but fuck me why on earth would Osman not get a contract. He had a mixed season some high spots some mediocre. He was one of the most fouled players in the premiership, scored a few goals actually gets stuck in more than most give him credit for. He had a good year the previous season, and has played well for England.

If he walked on a free would the snipers applaud, fucking probably

Well done Everton well done Osman.

Ps sorry if I sound arsey, lack of sleep

Mike Green
23 Posted 22/05/2013 at 07:52:08
Unbelievable.

However, if true, an explanation may be that a contract extension was agreed some time ago (gentlemans agreement etc) but Kenwright and Moyes said they would sign the papers at end of the season.

Now the rug has been pulled out from beneath this agreement Osman has possibly, rightly, gone to Kenwright and said 'we had a deal' and Bill has rightly kept his side of the bargain. If the above is the case, and Bill had left Osman in limbo and gone back on his word he really would be the definition of scumbag.

So, who knows, personally I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Steve Pugh
24 Posted 22/05/2013 at 07:59:39
Precisely Anthony. Imagine the uproar if the club allowed him to run down his contract and leave for nothing.

Oh wait, we don't have to imagine.... we've seen it before.

Gavin Ramejkis
25 Posted 22/05/2013 at 08:07:58
I find it odd that a deal can be done without a manager in place and given his age a one year rolling contract would be more appropriate.
Eugene Ruane
26 Posted 22/05/2013 at 08:08:38
The question is nothing (NOTHING!) to do with how good or bad anyone thinks the player is.

The question is who - GIVEN WE HAVE NO MANAGER - put the contract in front of him?

If it was Manchester United's manager, it IS a disgrace.

Same applies if it was our Chairman.

Mike Green (150) you make a fair point re what MIGHT have been agreed in the past, but the fact is, a new manager is about to be appointed and if this manager doesn't want/rate Osman, Everton will end up paying a couple of years wages that could have been saved.

We are constantly being told football is 'a business' and we also know our club doesn't have a pot to piss in.

These lads are all fantastically well-paid and they know in football, players move, managers come and go and when they do, things change.

Osman could have (and should have) been told "You know score Ossie, new face coming in, we'll have to hang fire on the extension".

And by the way even if you DO rate him highly, it's not as if there are/were bids (or even ONE bid) coming in for him and putting pressure on us, so again, from a business perspective, dumb and amateurish and smacks of 'jobs for the boys'.

Chris James
27 Posted 22/05/2013 at 08:39:59
WTF is wrong with you people? Far from satisfying the moaners, Moyes departure seems to have incited an even worse kind of paranoid bile - no wonder people call us Bitters if this is how we're going to react to every routine event at the club.

Osman was a key player for the club earlier in the season (admittedly faded later on post England call up), but we need a squad and if you don't renew players contracts they tend to leave. For nothing. Would that be preferred?

RE: this conspiracy about not playing Barkley because he's going to take him to Utd. Do you seriously believe that? Barkley's nowhere near consistent enough to be a premier league player yet. He's played a part in 5-6 matches this season and only really impressed in one of those for my money (Spurs), in EVERY game though he has played the team into trouble with careless passes in dangerous areas.

I can see from the comments that many on here here would be happier if we'd done a Villa and skirted relegation by playing our youth extensively rather than making a serious and sustained challenge for Europe, but I guess that's the sort of tactical naivity that has seen Moyes be picked for one of the biggest managerial jobs in the world.

Mike Allison
28 Posted 22/05/2013 at 08:49:41
What chance do we have when even the common sense things we do get slagged off?!

Eugene, if the new manager doesn't want Osman, he's tied to a longer contract and so we'll be able to command a bigger transfer fee.

Given that he's a current England international who is commanding respect and positive attention around the Premier League, it just seems obvious that you'd protect him as an asset.

Elsewhere on this site people are moaning about David Moyes seeing out his contract and leaving for nothing. It's the same issue, only this time the club have got it right.

Jim Harrison
29 Posted 22/05/2013 at 08:58:05
Isnt it just a one year extension? His contract had a year to go, now its two. Could even be the case that his wages have been adjusted to factor in an extra year. To be fair, the guy probably just about merits it at the moment, and the club still need to keep working even with out a new manager.

The biggest problem I would have with Barkley leaving would be who we sign with the transfer money!!! He is not the player everyone hoped he would be yet. I think its very unlikely anyway, utd can pretty much have the pick of any midfielder in the world, why sign an expensive youngster who has yet to actually show anything more than promise?

Mike Green
30 Posted 22/05/2013 at 08:55:36
Eugene #167 - I agree with much of what you say, and all Im doing is speculating.

If I'm right though Im not sure Osman should pay for the incompetence of the board and be left 'tucked up', particularly as Moyes has benefitted out of not signing his extension?

Having said that Osman should've probably pushed the point whilst we had a manager in place, and if they'd said 'cant sign until Moyes commits' then that's just tough luck re timing for Osman so your view probably edges it. I doubt if he's going to go short in the long run and there's a good chance he'd get the deal any way.

Either way, more funny business at GP, and possible warning shots the next man in charge might take heed noticing.

Drew Shortis
31 Posted 22/05/2013 at 09:02:48
Nice one Leon. I understand the critisism of some people here, but on balance I think it is well worth keeping him on. Even if he is not a first choice for the new manager he an experienced international and a great charecter to have around the club.

I wonder how Martinez rates him. Seems like his type of player. I watched a documentary on BBC1 (Wales?) called 'The fall and rise of Swansea City' last night. Great story, and for me it reinforced my belief that RM is the right man for Everton. He introduced the Swans to the style of football they are known for today. Then there is the Pulis model. Pragmatic but terrible to watch. I hope BK is brave enough to pick a footballing manager and not just a safe pair of hands!

Paul Dark
32 Posted 22/05/2013 at 09:16:52
Quite unbelievable - consistently appalling and rewarded with a contract. Some rubbish players are considered rubbish - but not the great Ossie!

Does Kenwright actually watch the game? This news really has depressed me.

Tony McNulty
33 Posted 22/05/2013 at 09:26:45
A shame that (whoever is was) wasn't a bit faster in getting Moyse tied to a contract, which would have led to a compensation payment. Amateur hour again.
Eugene Ruane
34 Posted 22/05/2013 at 09:36:19
Mike (175) - " I doubt if he's going to go short in the long run and there's a good chance he'd get the deal any way"

Exactly, it all could have been done the RIGHT way by the new manager (or by the old one for that matter).

And by the way, I'm actually not one of those who could be described (probably by the hysterical Chris James) as 'an Ossie hater'.

My view on his playing ability is basically 'he's ok..sometimes'.

Plus I'm aware that players (like him) who often get it in the neck from supporters don't select themselves.

Tony Cheek
35 Posted 22/05/2013 at 10:02:52
I must have been watching the wrong player than the one most of you are talking about here. Osman is well worth tying to the club for two more years. In the past If this had been a couple of seasons ago I was ready to let him go, but he has had a good season playing in his best position. It took Moyes a bleeding long time to find put where that was, but he has definitely been one of the better players this year and come in for unecessary criticism on TW. Now , if he could just learn to shoot........
Lewis Barclay
36 Posted 22/05/2013 at 10:27:07
It wouldn't surprise me if this isn't Pip or Big Dunc's first decision, following some advice from a departing Moyes.

Bucking the trend of other posts on here I'm all for it. Ossy is either insignificant or brilliant when he plays for Everton and I'd much rather see him get a contract extension than Heitinga, Naismith or Jelavic.

Phil Sammon
37 Posted 22/05/2013 at 10:40:25
He's a good player and deserves to be at the club for another two years.

However, I hope the new manager can spot that it may be appropriate to bring him off when he's blowing out his arse.

Paul David
38 Posted 22/05/2013 at 10:37:34
Given the size of our squad and the fact Ossy isn't worth much then he is worth keeping hold of but only as a back up player, he should never be starting every game again. What was the rush though? There seems to be no interest from other clubs, the new manager could have waited untill November to form his own opinion and decide to offer a new deal or not. Ossy has declined dramatically this season, it could just be form but if its down to age then we're stuck with an average player who will continue to get worse over the next 2 years.
June Brennan
39 Posted 22/05/2013 at 10:57:18
If a new manager came in would he want Leon, this leads me to beleive the club already have the new manager within. If Bill promotes one of the Everton staff he will be getting a cheap deal, no fees to pay out for compensation and you know the score lads we are skint.He will then say at the end of the season, "Oh well we gave xyz a chance and it did not work out", or he will be saying "what a fantastic season we have had and wern't we clever promoting from within". He is on a win win cheap situation.
Sam Hoare
40 Posted 22/05/2013 at 11:00:53
We are constantly told on here that the youth players should be played and brought through and here is an example of one who has been and has received constant criticism from those same people!

Ossie is frustrating at times but a decent little player who has played a lot of games in the first team for us. He doesn't have much pace to rely on so I can't see his game deteriorating in the next few years. He more than deserves a years extension although I hope he won't have to start quite as many games next season as he did this one.

Denis Richardson
41 Posted 22/05/2013 at 11:10:10
Not against it in principle but think this could and should have waited until the new manager situation has been sorted out.

Ozzie was not going anywhere (he would have been 33 next summer when his old contract would have run out), so the club (and new manager) would have had all summer to sort out a new deal – giving the new manager time to assess if he actually wanted the guy or not beyond another year.

He still had a year left which would have taken him to 33 – certainly a strange one as there was absolutely no time pressure on the club to do this now – without a manager. Personally I cannot see him making that many appearances in the 14/15 season – otherwise we would have not moved forward at all.

Duncan McDine
42 Posted 22/05/2013 at 11:16:16
I can understand some people on here questioning the extension of a player contract before the new manager comes in, but can't understand the stick Ossie still gets from some of you about his footballing. The last 2 or 3 seasons (when moved to his correct position) he's been consistently good and with the squad we currently have, should be in the starting 11.
Norman Merrill
43 Posted 22/05/2013 at 11:24:59
I would have thought, players contracts etc, would have been left to the NEW man in charge,
Surely he would be expected to survey, his staff & players, and then act.
If its not Moyes who has pushed this thru? Then who?
Roman Sidey
44 Posted 22/05/2013 at 11:23:28
Chris James @168, do you seriously think that I seriously believe that? So much for a bit of fun on the internet then.

On the real subject, you only have to read the pro-Osman posts on here to figure out that he isn't good enough. Almost every single one has excuses laced within. Slow, can't shoot (broken clock and all that logic), falls over, isn't fit. There's four MASSIVE strikes in a midfielder's attributes.

Drew Shortis
45 Posted 22/05/2013 at 11:33:47
His form was good enough to get him into the England team this season and I though he did us proud! Not a world beater, but he doesn't deserve some of the stick he is getting. Definitely a useful member of the squad to hold onto, thus saving us money bringing in an outsider to fill out the numbers.
David Graves
46 Posted 22/05/2013 at 11:58:29
Regardless of your opinion on his footballing abilities surely the issue is if he has 12 months left on his existing contract why the haste to extend it now before a new manager arrives.
Eugene Ruane
47 Posted 22/05/2013 at 12:00:35
Norman (264) - "If its not Moyes who has pushed this thru? Then who?"

Exactly, that (and only that) should be what people concern themselves with.

What anyone thinks of Osman (good or bad) is completely irrelevant.

John Ford
48 Posted 22/05/2013 at 12:15:14
This is rather odd, Did the tea lady take the meeting?
Andrew Ellams
49 Posted 22/05/2013 at 12:14:50
People are convinced that Moyes new deal must have taken months to negotiate, so why not this one?

Some of you are determined to dig out conspiracy theories from every item on this site at the moment and it's getting a bit dull now. Maybe ToffeeWeb should shut down until a new manager is in place and the theories/conspiracies and the I know more than you crap can start afresh

Mike Green
50 Posted 22/05/2013 at 12:50:36
Just to lik in to the point that Bill should be more worried about installing a new manager than extending Osmans contract.....

.......Vitor Pereira is now favourite as short as 5/2 with some of the bookies.

Steve Guy
51 Posted 22/05/2013 at 12:48:48
At times some if hos football has been top draw and that got hom an England call up but Osman was running on empty by end of the season. Not his fault. He would benefit from two things 1. Being played in his proper position and not wide 2. Rotation where he gets a chance to recover. New manager might be able to do this if he has the nouse to play Barkley a bit more !
Richard Reeves
52 Posted 22/05/2013 at 12:52:54
For me this is another hint that the new manager is already there and has been in the background all along.
Jamie Crowley
53 Posted 22/05/2013 at 13:12:21
Does this not reek of an internal appointment?
David Nicholls
54 Posted 22/05/2013 at 13:17:01
I can't see anything negative about this.

As long as the new manager isn't Tony Pulis then there is absolutely no reason whatsoever why the new gaffer would not want Leon Osman on a longer deal.

Harold Matthews
57 Posted 22/05/2013 at 13:25:08
Moyes loves Osman because he harries and tackles in every corner of the pitch.,....most of which bypasses his critics. He certainly deserves a new contract but 2years is a wee bit risky for a player who tries to do too much,especially one age 32.
Steve Edwards
58 Posted 22/05/2013 at 13:48:15
I'm not sure why so many people are so impressed by Barkley. He may turn out to be a decent player but then he may not. He's proved nothing yet and as far as I'm concerned the jury is still out. Anyone fancy Rodwell back? Thought not. Similar hype with him as well. We mugged City for the 12M.b
Ciaran Duff
59 Posted 22/05/2013 at 13:11:41
I thought there was talk of some other clubs (Spurs?) being interested in Osman. So, maybe that is why the club wanted to tie him down now rather than wait for the new manager. I think it is a good piece of business. He is a tidy player, plays some nice football and is making England appearances. We would have to pay a few million to get an equivalent player in, so why not keep him.
Eugene Ruane
60 Posted 22/05/2013 at 14:04:42
"Osman does this, he can't do that, he's great, he's shite, he deserves a new contract, no he doesn't"

Talk about missing the point.

Maybe someone should post a 'How do you rate Osman as a footballer?' thread.

Presumably that would turn into "Who the fuck actually gave the player the extension and when and why?" (ie: what this discussion should be).

And if your response is 'does it matter?' - yes of course it fucking does.

Especially if the new manager has no place for him (and given we're potless).

Gavin Ramejkis
61 Posted 22/05/2013 at 14:18:44
Sam #239 only thing is he wasn't brought through as a youth player he was farmed out to Derby County who desperately wanted to keep him and Moyes brought him back when hit with no other midfield options available to him, hmmmm whenever did we see Moyes do that before???
James Lauwervine
63 Posted 22/05/2013 at 14:55:59
Eugene, the only possible answer at this stage to your second question is 'we don't know'. Not that that being the case has ever stopped the Jump To Conclusions Brigade before, to use a ToffeeWebber-style labelling technique. As to whether it matters, 'possibly' is as far as I'd go at this stage. Fire away with your capital letters if you like.
As to the first question you mention, that would be a thread I would stay well clear of because it would undoubtedly be filled with even more nonsense and personal abuse than usual on here.
Brian Waring
64 Posted 22/05/2013 at 16:51:53
I reckon June (#231) makes a good point, maybe the club have already got a new manager in place (Stubbs, Neville) but are holding back before they release who it is, and this new manager (Stubbs,Neville) are happy with the new 2 year contract offered to Osman.
Susong Hermawan
65 Posted 22/05/2013 at 17:11:45
Keep him until 40 would ya, he's England Internasional! Haha..
Roman Sidey
66 Posted 22/05/2013 at 17:30:27
Eugene's question is pretty important. If Moyes got this through then that's a bit pointless (unless he's just protecting his mate who has a "job for life"). If Kenwright did it then expexct more of the same until we get a new manager. If we already have a manager in Stubbs/Weir/Neville etc, then catch yas later, I'm goin to Suffolk.
Frank Wade
67 Posted 22/05/2013 at 17:24:20
Contract negotiations tend to take a long time, so it is possible/likely that Leon Osman was offered a new contract prior to David Moyes agreeing to leave.

Good business by the club in my book for a player who has contributed 8 goals from midfield this season and is a crucial cog in our developing 'passing' game, that has been so pleasing on the eye this season. His clever play, quick feet and ability to hold possession and link up with Pienaar, Baines and Fellaini is often overlooked.

Most recent example I recall is the one-two he played with Mirallas, followed by a perfectly weighted pass to play Coleman in to cross for Pienaar to slot home the only goal of the game v Fulham recently. Also see his goal v Larissa on YouTube anytime you need cheering up. It is easy to see why he is not every fan's cup of tea as at times he looks slow and jaded and has the look of a player forced to play through an injury, but I think he is well worth adding an extra year to his contract.

Hoping that next year, he can be rested more, giving Barkley opportunities in midfield. Surprised by those who disagree with the move, as so many seemed at odds with the club over the Gosling contract run-down fiasco - which in fact turned out to be a blessing is disguise - 16 games for Newcastle in 3 seasons.

Stephen Sulliven
68 Posted 22/05/2013 at 20:34:29
Osman played far too many games last year & played below standard in most.
Moyes, Why extend his contract when you are leaving? Take him with you and give him two years at Man utd!
Why not?
I'll tell you why because he is nowhere near good enough at the top level, especially now his legs are fading and stamina & strength an issue. He can only get worse not better.
Osman was the weak link in midfield and now were stuck with him?
Says it all doesn't it?
Stephen Sulliven
69 Posted 22/05/2013 at 20:41:11
Osman's got quick feet and that's about it?
Paul Ferry
70 Posted 22/05/2013 at 21:02:46
Really good perspective Sam (239).

Steve Edwards (96) Chill out, he's a current England international.

No he ain't 'current', he didn't get into the last squad.

Quite frankly I would like him to leave for Stoke or Wigan

I agree that this (IF it has happened) should have waited until the new gaffer slips into the hot seat.

If Parbold's finest is indeed to stay, my hunch is that he might not be the sort of scriptural fave he was under SAF's taxi-mate. I suspect he will spend more time on the bench.

This will be no bad thing. He has nous to pass on and can't last the length of a game these days.

I would love to see some late spring cleaning once the new gaffer picks up the reins: Holy Entwistle let him be the one from Porto or the one from Bilbao. I would like to see his style and his style of player setting the tone for what is to come.

This could be a really exciting time to be blue, these next couple of months. If it is to be Pereira it will be. Fresh players, fresh minds, fresh flair.

And then I want it to be Man-U at home opening day of 2013-2014.

David Heaton
71 Posted 22/05/2013 at 22:12:53
I was hoping Osman and Hibbert would be the first two out the door, not giving him a new contract, We need a sea change at Everton we need to replace the ordinary players with players off are own staff or buy in new players that can take the team forward. The two of them have been great servant to Everton but pro football is a ruthless business. and as hard as you try you're not going to make those two into top players. time to say goodbye to the lads that will never make the grade that goes for Naismith, Jelavic and Gueye .Hope the new manager thinks the same. In fact why don't I become the new manager. I'd love to give them their P45's
Tom Bowers
72 Posted 22/05/2013 at 22:56:11
Hopefully the new manager will have more perception than Moyes where the current squad is concerned. Moyes had blinkers on most of the time and I believe that is why the team was not good enough to win anything during his tenure. Osman was a prime example of his stubbornness when other players never really got a good crack of the whip.

It's time to have a Spring-clean but signing Osman to a two year deal is a bad start.

Dan Brierley
74 Posted 23/05/2013 at 16:57:09
I think this is great news. Of course, Ossie is close to the end of his career but still makes a decent squad player. A good player to bring on for 20 minutes or so. And from what I have heard over the years, he is the most skillful player we have had for a long time. I would love to see him stay on and coach some of that into the younger players. It makes no sense at all to let Osman go and then BUY a new squad player. Barkley will be getting much more starts next season, so Ossie makes a good sub in my eyes.

And I nearly spat my coffee out seeing some of the reactions above. Loads of CAPITALS going off, words such as 'disgrace' flying around. As far as I have known, Kenwright has always taken responsibility for players contracts. I sincerely hope Ossie retires here, and its good to see Everton again showing loyalty towards players that have spent their career here. Could you imagine United kicking Scholes out a year before he has decided to retire? Or similarly with Carragher? I think it sends out a positive message to the world that we look after our own.

Roman Sidey
75 Posted 23/05/2013 at 17:39:29
Dan, Kenwright might take care of the contract, but only for the players the manager wants. That's why this is so intriguing.

Also, Scholes and Carragher have won things, which makes for a slightly stronger loyalty card.

Dan Brierley
76 Posted 23/05/2013 at 18:13:11
Roman, perhaps you could look at this a different way. How would you feel if he left for free next summer if the manager doesn't want him, compared to him leaving for a fee if the manager doesn't want him?

Roman Sidey
78 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:26:46
Fair point, Dan, but what sort of fee would he command. Honestly, and not taking an ounce of the piss, we'd be lucky to get a million for him, unless Hodgeson was signing the cheques.
Ian Bennett
79 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:42:46
Osman would be a stand out player for the bottom half of the league like Bullard, Murphy etc and is worth a lot more than a £1m. He's just not a top 4 player.
Sam Hoare
80 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:49:30
Gavin 423, I'm sorry but I've read this post a few times and I still can't see what you are saying. I have to conclude that either you are talking nonsense or the cookie I just ate was highly alcoholic.
Mark Frere
81 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:58:23
Sam Hoare

Gavin is talking nonsense, just because we loaned Osman out, it doesn't mean he didn't come through our youth ranks, that's what most teams do with their youth to get them the required experience. I think what Gavin is reffering to when he says: When ever did we see Moyes do that before? I think he's talking about Ross Barkley

Roman Sidey
82 Posted 24/05/2013 at 03:32:24
Ian, do you honestly think a 32-year-old who can barely last 70 minutes and shoots like his son is the goalie and gets pushed to the ground like a wet rag would fetch over a million from another side. One million isn't a lot these days, but the only sides that can afford to spend that or more on a squad player would be going for a much better player.
Tim Jones
83 Posted 24/05/2013 at 05:49:57
If as now I am hearing Osmans contract had a YEAR left on it then the indecent haste to award him a 2YEAR extension on that becomes all the more disgraceful and baffling. It seems there was no need whatsoever to FAST TRACK his contract BEFORE a New Manager is appointed at all.
So what have we got with Mr "Fast Feet' a 'powder puff' player who cant shoot and has not got the stamina NOW to perform reliably for 90 minutes . If he is so knackered NOW just think how much worse he will be in 3 years time.
The only conclusion to draw is that Everton are in the hands of morons.
Ian Bennett
84 Posted 24/05/2013 at 07:21:39
Yes Roman. He's clearly not a power house, but is better than most of the bottom half sides. He splits opinion at Everton, but would have been the main play maker in lesser sides, he just played 2nd fiddle to Arteta. For most of his career he was shunted out wide right when he had zero pace, for which we never saw him at his best.

If he was sold for anything less than £4m, most everton fans would be outraged. The idea that he was worth only a million is a bit of a joke.

Mark Dunford
85 Posted 24/05/2013 at 09:29:57
I'm assuming Eugene and Tim are just a poor souls with nothing better to do that froth at the mouth every time Osman's name is mentioned. Osman played well this year but faded towards the end of the season. We have a small squad, His success was recognised by an international call up. He seems a more confident player now that he is regularly asked to play in his favoured role and his new contract helps ensure stability at a club which has just finished sixth. I've no problem if the club offer comparable contracts to retain loyal players providing they are players with value in the transfer market, which Osman has if the new manager prefers to sell him.

The only conclusion to draw is that ToffeeWeb has a moronic tendency who write as clearly as they think

Brent Stephens
86 Posted 24/05/2013 at 09:43:09
Mark, TimPeter never has a positive word to say about anything. At least Eugene posts positives as well.
Ged Simpson
87 Posted 24/05/2013 at 09:44:39
Ooh mark - you'll get an eyeful for your last para !
Mike Keating
88 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:32:06
At least we know who the new manager is - step forward Saint Bill and leave me in peace for the rest of the summer
Patrick Murphy
90 Posted 24/05/2013 at 14:32:02
According to today's Guardian David Moyes is weighing up a move for Felli and activating his circa £24m buy-out clause, it's a bit of flyer with no direct quotes, a lot of supposition but the paper does have Manchester connections.

Who is going to accept the job if our best players are sold before they take charge? Ah well there's always Ossie.

Eugene Ruane
91 Posted 24/05/2013 at 14:51:11
Patrick (321) - "According to today's Guardian David Moyes is weighing up a move for Felli and activating his circa £24m buy-out clause"

A very good chance this is space-filler guesswork as, even though I believe The Guardian to be the best paper out there, there is virtually no way anyone (other than The Amazing Kreskin) knows what anyone else is or isn't 'weighing up'.

Weighing up is done inside the head and I'm fairly sure the paper doesn't have access to the inside of Moyes' napper

Of course if he SAID "I'm weighing up....." - that would be different.

But he didn't, so I'm not going to get hot under the collar about it.....yet.

However should he come for Fellaini/Baines/Barkley, I personally will consider it a huge kick in the bollocks and will consider all the 'special relationship with Everton' stuff to be just a load of wank.

The reality is, he now has an incredible squad of players at his disposal including a great under 21 side

He has money to spend and his pick of practically any player on the planet.

Plus he knows how important certain players are to us.

If he's the decent man I've always believed him to be (despite wanting him gone) and his words DO mean something, he'll leave our squad alone.


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