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Dave Horne
1 Posted 01/06/2015 at 09:28:52
Absolutely excellent article Peter.
Dr David France
2 Posted 01/06/2015 at 10:49:44
More tremendous research and another fantastic article.

It was a true pleasure to meet with you last week.

Dave Lynch
3 Posted 01/06/2015 at 11:12:51
It is honestly a pleasure and privilege to read these articles, they honestly bring a lump to my throat, brave men, the likes of we will never see again.

Thanks so much Peter.

Hope you and yours are well, Dr France...

Pete Jones
4 Posted 01/06/2015 at 11:32:44
Thanks for the comments gentlemen, but as if to cement my status as an amateur historian, I left a big gap in my original document and the last third had been lost. I really shouldnÂ’t be operating machinery without the supervision of a grown up. IÂ’ve emailed Lyndon and hopefully the missing section can be restored.

You are missing Alfred CorlettÂ’s fate and how his family and team mates responded, together with the fate of the whole Gallipoli operation.

David, it was a privilege to meet you last week and Dave, I really appreciate your comments; they make the writing worthwhile. If you got a lump in your throat from the first part just wait until you read the rest. If my sis who proofreads the document is anything to go by, I suggest having a box of tissues handy.

Lyndon Lloyd
5 Posted 01/06/2015 at 16:14:02
My sincerest apologies, Pete, for the unforgivable oversight. I have added the final section now.

As always, weÂ’re indebted to you for the depth of your research and your obvious love for this period in our club and countryÂ’s history. Fascinating stuff.

Pete Jones
6 Posted 01/06/2015 at 16:52:30
Lyndon, do not worry about it, IÂ’m sure it is something to do with my formatting.
Gerry Quinn
7 Posted 01/06/2015 at 17:40:17
Peter, reading these war stories always brings a lump to my throat. So many, so many lives lost and it must have been an absolutely awful era to have to fight in some far off land in the worst kind of conditions. I always have a lot of true admiration for those brave men who fought at that time, and, of course during the 2nd World War too.

When my mother passed away a couple of years ago – may I add at the grand old age of 99½ – I was given my Dad’s medals and war documents. A sergeant (Paratrooper) in the Liverpool Kings Regiment, he must have seen some of the most horrible of sights behind enemy lines yet not a word of any of his war came from his mouth – despite my brother and I trying to grill him many times as kids tend to do growing up.

In memory of Dad, I sent copies/photos to the Parachute Regiment in order for them to put him on their website – they have researched his past and have provided a fitting memorial to a father, and, of course, a true Blue, who ensured that his son was "Born, not manufactured": http://www.paradata.org.uk/people/brian-g-quinn

I would dearly recommend for anyone who has these kind of memories handed down to them to ensure that they share them on websites such as the Parachute Regiment.

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

Colin Glassar
8 Posted 01/06/2015 at 19:32:39
Thank you Pete for such a brilliant article. I bow in deference to you and all the other Everton historians who keep our heritage alive.
Andy McShane
9 Posted 01/06/2015 at 21:33:48
This is a fantastic piece of work, Peter. It puts into context the dramas and traumas expressed on this site about the Blues only getting to 11th!
Eugene Ruane
10 Posted 02/06/2015 at 08:32:30
A fascinating piece - thank you Peter.
Greg Symon
11 Posted 08/06/2015 at 14:33:40
Great article, Peter, which hits my two great passions: Everton and WW1.

My great Grandad, Samuel Symon, an Evertonian from the 1880s, was also wounded at Gallipoli serving with the Royal Inniskillings. He was a bomb thrower and was wounded by a grenade which was thrown by his mate but hit the parapet and exploded in their own trench.

He was subsequently invalided out and received the silver wound badge, his Medal Index Card shows his service in the Balkans. My Dad said that he remembered him having a hole in his back that you could put your hand in it was that big.

I have his medals and those of my other great Grandad, another Evertonian called Frank Lowles who was killed at Arras on the Western Front in 1917 serving with the Royal Garrison Artillery. I also have his death plaque and medals.

Both of them instilled into their children that they were Evertonians and this has followed on through the generations, I have had a season ticket since I was 3, as does my sister and my daughter. My Dad had one before he passed away as did my own Granddad.

I continue to watch Everton home and away every week but I also collect WW1 medals and death plaques (Dead MenÂ’s Pennies) to Liverpool lads. ItÂ’s nice to see that their service is still remembered.

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.

Pete Jones
12 Posted 08/06/2015 at 18:43:56
Greg, thanks for that; my family has a similar story of support for Everton. I took the liberty of looking up Gunner Lowles on the CWGC site as I have an interest in Arras. I donÂ’t know if you read my ToffeeWeb piece about the 1914-15 Championship winning season but the question of how many of the Everton team died in WW1 was raised. The answer was none, only the reserve wing half James Roy was killled, at Arras in April 1917. His body was never identified and his name is on the Arras Memorial to the Missing. By coincidence he most likely fell about a mile from St Martin Calvaire, and his family believe he may be buried in an unknown grave in Heninel Road-Croiselles Cemetery, which is about a mile east of where your grandfather is buried.
Greg Symon
13 Posted 08/06/2015 at 20:26:01
Hi Pete,

ThatÂ’s really interesting, I go and visit the grave every 2 years as my DadÂ’s ashes are spread there as well.

I will call in that cemetery and the Memorial, I also visit about half a dozen other graves of local lads when IÂ’m over there as well.And if you know your history....

Matt Woods
14 Posted 11/06/2015 at 06:19:10
Wonderful piece, thank you.

I have been living in New Zealand for the last 10 years, and Gallipoli is recognised as a huge historical event that affected the mindset of the colonists and the subsequent relationship with the mother country.

Always fascinating to hear of the ordinary people involved during historical events, their rich lives otherwise passing unnoticed without the historians' dedication to illuminate.

Thanks again, fabulous work.

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