Europa League place goes to West Ham

Being in Europe didnÂ’t harm us in 2007-08 did it?? We finished 5th in the league and got to the League Cup semi. It's just a sorry excuse when the team and the manager is shit e.

Were we in Europe when we got arse-banged 6-3 by Chelsea in late August? Or were we in Europe when the manager oversaw a totally inept pre-season last summer??

Being in Europe will not mean you will see any better more fluent performance levels, we will not pass the ball more quickly, we will not have lots of movement off the ball and we will make the same mistakes over and over again just like we have this last 12 months.

But we can always find other excuses for not performing next season. In fact, why donÂ’t we just forever from now on always blame injuries, Europe or sticky grass on the manager and teams failings?

I for one am disappointed as itÂ’s another trophy (potentially), means we get to see the team play more often (maybe not a good thing at the minute!) and also increases the profile of the club.

Just domestic it is then for 2015-16...

You play more games to win this competition than the Champions League, plus if you finish 3rd in your Champions League group, you still get in the Europa League, and I donÂ’t think that any club dropping out of the Champions League has ever won it. Surely that shows how little the Champions League clubs are interested in this non-event.

And I hope they replace that sticky grass for BarkleyÂ’s sake!

Everton certainly didnÂ’t deserve to get in and probably it is a good thing. RM will have enough on his plate to contend with if he is to keep his job next season.

Europa League to Champions League – it's like the League Cup compared to the Premier League.

It’s not make-believe – it’s fact!

not quite as poetic as the Spanish bard himself would put it but itÂ’ll be something along those lines.

Does Chelsea under Benitez not ring a bell? Only two seasons ago, mate.

It was a trophy that was dismissed by Jose as being unimportant, maybe due to the warm and cordial relationship with the Spanish waiter.

They fly first class or private jet; they only play in Europe — not South America!

Spurs still finished 5th... it's all a load of shite.

Oviedo, Gibson, Kone, Pienaar, Osman, Hibbert all good squad players if fit. They are hardly ever fit therefore we need to move them on ASAP.

Combination of transfers, loans and youth must replace them.

Something which I have been saying for months, if it was going to happen heÂ’d have been here the season just gone and not at Seville.

Our worst period of the season was between December and February, when there were no European games. 2 wins in 12 and out of the FA Cup at the earliest opportunity.

Between August and early September, there were no European games, so we canÂ’t possibly attribute the thrown away leads against Leicester and Arsenal or that defensive shambles against Chelsea.

The money for winning the EL is 㾷m whereas the CL offers 㿔m. You then have the situation of Shit CL sides like the RS dropping into the tournament devaluing it.

Martinez saw this as an omen to playing sideways footy, although he is looking forward to next January, when it will be the year of the bullshitter, when the green shoots of recovery will give us a strong second half of the season.

I just think a club like Everton should welcome the chance to play in Europe. We are more than likely not going to get too many chances to play in Europe. Champions League is unlikely. Fifth or sixth in the league is at least the minimum we should be after. That usually means Europa League which some donÂ’t want. So the assumption is. For those who donÂ’t want Europa League, does that mean they are relatively happy with 7th or 8th which carries less of a Â’threat" of Europe. Oops. Also better not win a cup. Or is it go all out to get in top 4 and claim a Champions League place. Still Europe.

We are back to square 1.

Agreed. The above is simplistic and tongue in cheek but at least qualifying for one of the European comps means Everton would be achieving some sort of success. Success breeds success. Winning becomes a habit. Confidence. Raises profile of club. Perhaps raises some funds.

If we had gone on to win the final of Europa League, big if, how many would have complained about the comp.

Scheduling of League matches should be reviewed. Perhaps make sure teams involved in Thurs games play Sundays at 4 and not before or even Mondays. I think there were a few cases of teams who were involved in Champions League games playing Monday

LetÂ’s put it this way, regardless of what fans feel about the Europa League and itÂ’s drawn out format in the early rounds, it remains the only European competition that you are likely to see Everton FC in over the next few yearÂ’s, possibly next 10 years even.

Unless you think we are going to be taken of by Arab Princes or something drastic happens the Europa League is basically EvertonÂ’s paradise of variety.

So far we are hearing Martinez talking up failed tried and tested players for next season like he expects some sort of animated transformation in these players that have 1) shown they are limited and 2) they are too old, too inexperienced or quite simply too injury prone.

When you consider Everton never saw any European football for 10 years between 1995 - 2005 it makes you realise how hard it actually is for this club to get into European tournaments and why when it happens it should be taken and cherished not derided.

If anyone thinks not being in Europe will make us better, just look at some of the seasonÂ’s we were NOT in Europe...just as bad half the time.

The longer we stay out of Europe, the worst our Uefa coefficient ranking gets and as our seeding falls our chances of an easy draw and progress in either competition becomes.

The club, the board, the management and the players ... everything should be geared to coping with Premier League and European football EVERY SEASON.

Everton v Barcelona might get the pulse racing a little bit more than Everton v Krasnador as well! The Europa League is definitely a hindrance but our useless manager is to blame for this disgraceful season!

The idea of the CL was to have a breakaway creme de la creme league, which hasnÂ’t happened and never will.

Therefore, instead of teams playing meaningless games, go back to the original knockout formula.