Just Mad

Peter Carpenter 24/01/2016 16comments  |  Jump to last

I was going to write last week along the lines of 'Martinez: Mastermind or mad?' but Russell Smith got there first (Martinez: Genius or insane?). It was to be about the contrast between the exciting attacking football we see at times and the repeated errors that follow, costing points and wins. I felt we were on a tightrope and it could go either way. He could become a hero and create something special or it could all fall apart.

I think we have fallen off the tightrope.

I was pleased when Martinez got the job, thinking that if he could keep Wigan up for so many seasons, play attractive football in the process, tactically outwit other managers at times and win a cup, then he could do so much more with greater resources at Everton.

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The first season seemed to prove that and the Champions League beckoned briefly. Until Tony Pulis turned up with Palace in April and we got outfought by a mediocre team. It was the game after we had just got ahead of Arsenal and, for only the second time (first at Anfield 0-4), I thought he got it wrong, playing too many attacking players. We needed to ram home the advantage over Arsenal and didn't.

The second season was weird, just never got going. More odd decisions followed no subs at Southampton, bringing back Howard after Robles kept three clean sheets, playing an open game in Kiev when we only needed a draw and others.

The third season I thought would be the test of Martinez and the vital one, as our best players are going to be tempted elsewhere before long. The signs were good to begin with. The squad looked stronger than we have had for some time and more talented. I think that is still the case, it's probably the best squad since the eighties. That's what makes it all so frustrating. This is the season to be good, there is a chance, the usual suspects are off their game and we have let it go by, watching Leicester take it instead.

And it's largely self-inflicted. The faults are clear and they haven't been addressed. The hints were there, lots of high-scoring draws last season, players comments (Baines we don't practice defending corners, Osman; it's easier than under Moyes), lesser teams hustling us out of games, defensive errors costing goals.

It's okay to be positive, a bit of a visionary even, a purist, but it's got to be built on some solid foundations and that is just what we haven't got. The ageing goalkeeper should have been replaced. If nearly 90% of fans can see that why can't the manager? Martinez's obsession with him is now just looking completely and utterly bizarre. I don't think I am imagining it when I say the defence looked more confident against City in the cup first leg with Robles behind them.

The centre-backs are young and want to play the ball out of defence. Nothing wrong with that, I'll accept mistakes but when they are repeated again and again, something is wrong. 'We are learning,' says Martinez. Yes, young players can learn from mistakes, but where is the guidance from the teacher? Has anyone suggested to Stones that he could have done other things on occasions when errors have led to goals? For that matter, did anyone say to Deulofeu that running the ball away (and losing it) wasn't the best decision in the 98th minute at Chelsea?

In Saturday's Independent, Jimmy F-Hasselbaink said, 'Players want direction. They want to be shown the way.' Is anyone giving John Stones some direction? He is a good ball player but not yet a good defender. Part of the attraction of Chelsea last summer must have been the chance to learn from John Terry. Stones hasn't got those basic defensive qualities yet and, much as I dislike John Terry, he certainly has. When Stones first played at centre-back in Martinez's first season, he played alongside Distin and they were solid getting some direction from the older player? Likewise Funes Mori. Another young player, this one moving into a new football culture - needs some help. Is Martinez expecting this learning to just happen automatically, or is he doing something to foster it?

I watched the open training session at Goodison last April. Ok, granted, they may not do everything as normal on such a day, but it was all small sided games, one-touch, two-touch no technical stuff, no actual coaching of specifics, techniques or tactics. Maybe they were just putting on a show and keep the other stuff for Finch Farm but I came away thinking, 'I hope that isn't all they do in training.'

I don't mind watching a young team that will make mistakes through inexperience but where is the progress? Who is improving? Lukaku has improved on last year, touch is better, he seems more aware of other players and plays more part in the build up. Barkley is having a better season. Cleverly looks to have regained his confidence. Galloway has done well. But elsewhere it's stayed the same.

We have been overtaken by other teams who are not more talented, but they are more committed. They press us all over the pitch, we don't do that to them. We are easy to play against. They never give up, they try to get the ball back as soon as they lose it, we don't. How many times do you see a forward player give the ball away and throw hands up in the air as if it's someone else's fault. Lukaku gave the ball away against Leicester and chased back into our half to win it back. I remember it because it's such a rarity these days. Swansea, second half, Howard came out to clear and hoofed it downfield. Three of our players were still offside from the previous attack and could play no part.

For all their skills, our forward players have no concept of defending as a team. When the ball is lost, they don't think getting it back has anything much to do with them.

It's like putting a bunch schoolkids in charge of the classroom and still expecting learning to take place. The over-blown celebration of goals is a worrying thing too. Celebrate as much as you like when you have actually achieved something, not before - are they too easily pleased? Do they think they are better than they really are?

It's a potentially toxic mix, past-it keeper, inexperienced centre-backs, a few too many 'luxury' players who can be hustled out of games, petulant attitudes at times. Add to that a manager who doesn't see these faults and doesn't want to do the dirty stuff anyway. He won't just play out time in winning positions. He won't put on an extra defender to keep a lead. He seems to think that just doing the same stuff over and over will see it all come right in the end.

Characteristics of his teams attractive football, concede a lot of goals, don't win enough games. We are just a more expensive Wigan. He is the one who isn't learning, because he isn't even looking. I am sorry to say I was wrong about him. He has failed to progress. He is now dangerous, if we go another 10 league games with only one win, we will be in a relegation fight. It is now a season and a half of under-achieving and it should be so much better.

I would sack him tomorrow. And if there really is a takeover in the offing, a chance to appoint their own man might help. There must be plenty of coaches out there, watching this slow-motion car crash, who would jump at the chance of taking over such a talented group of players, convinced they could get them to their full potential. Martinez, it is clear now, can't do it.

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Mike Jones
1 Posted 25/01/2016 at 17:36:15
Unfortunately because of this season's failure, no doubt Lukaku, Stones and possibly Barkley will leave. Kone has passed his sell-by date has is Howard; our best players (Baines, Osman & Pienaar) are getting over the hill.

Martinez took over a team with possibilities but whoever follows him takes over a very poor squad that will have to be rebuilt; it will be a difficult job. The damage done by Martinez will affect us for years... he should have gone a long time ago.

Steve Hogan
2 Posted 25/01/2016 at 17:59:25
Good article Peter, pretty much sums up all the frustration's were all feeling right now.

You have pretty much summed up the man's faults, and they are MAJOR believe me. He steadfastly believes he is on the RIGHT path, despite being found out time and time again.

Were simply too nice as a football team, the longer he stay's the more damage he will inflict. Privately many of our better player's will have already made their minds up and will undoubtedly be off in the summer.

He's acting like the 'mad professor' convinced he has found the magic formulae.

Please go now Mr Martinez , it will only get worse.

Phil McKeown
3 Posted 25/01/2016 at 18:07:05
Spot on, well said, Peter.
Garry Corgan
4 Posted 25/01/2016 at 18:17:02
Well the odds on Martinez being the next Premier League manager to be sacked have tumbled in recent weeks from around 50/1, with some bookmakers now offering odds as low as 16/1.

For comparison, 16/1 is the same price being offered on Steve McLaren.

Clearly the tide is turning – as it should after only 1 win in 10 – and with a couple more poor defeats perhaps even Kenwright will decide the time has come to dispense with the Spaniard’s services.

Jay Harris
5 Posted 25/01/2016 at 18:26:02
A very well written post summing up how most of us feel right now, Peter. Although I had major doubts when he was appointed.

Any manager that gets his team relegated should not even get to an interview for Everton – let alone be the main (only?) choice.

Des Farren
6 Posted 25/01/2016 at 18:34:26
Good article, Peter. Many of your points are familiar but your basic argument is mostly a fair one. I could take issue with some of your points, ie "no technical stuff, no coaching of specifics". On an open training day? hardly.

My own view, for what it's worth, is that our defence, for want of a better word, has been changed on a weekly basis throughout the season. Coleman, Jagielka, Baines have all been out periodically for a good while, to say nothing of McCarthy, Besic, and our unpredictable goalkeeper, and Stones who are just not functioning, to put it kindly. The net result is the kind of season we are having.

Whether all this can be laid at the door of our manager is questionable. I think he has more talent than he is being credited with; after all, it is more difficult to create an attacking formation than a defensive one. Ask Wenger who has been plagued with this problem, in spite of his resources over the years.

Maybe Martinez is just the wrong person at the wrong time?

As I said, Peter, an enjoyable, reasoned read.

Joe Foster
7 Posted 25/01/2016 at 18:50:32
It's about time the spotlight was put on him. Instead of him trying to shine it on anything and everything else. Blaming the fans is the end for me. Lower than a rattlesnake’s belly.
Barry Thompson
8 Posted 25/01/2016 at 19:05:24
A rattlesnake’s belly on sticky grass, eh, Joe?

Stan Collymore article – spot on.

Dave Lynch
9 Posted 25/01/2016 at 20:06:56
As I said in my last article. It's the hope that kills you...
William Cartwright
11 Posted 25/01/2016 at 20:50:28
Top notch article Peter, a good read. Joe (7) please correct me if I am wrong, but I did not read Roberto's comments about being afraid to play at Goodison as directed at the supporters. (Although on reflection I can quite see he meant it that way and if so what a prat he is!).

I thought he was trying to express the challenge of pleasing his home supporters when things are not going well and that the players were becoming more stressed as a result, thus a spiral of negativity has set in?

What this mini discussion topic highlights for me is how Roberto has the innate ability to divide opinions. There are some absolutely undeniable positives he has brought to the Club, but at the same time he keeps dropping the ball so often, talking in riddles and superlatives that you never know what he is up to.

For me there are 2 issues will make or break his already seriously damaged relationship with the Club; 1st Tim Howard continuously being picked and 2nd has he lost the dressing room? The Tim Howard farce is unique in modern football. I can't recall any similar example. Mignolet across the park has had several poor gaffes on open debate but nothing compared to Howard's howlers. How you assess if the dressing room is lost is very different. It pre-supposes the dressing room is united either in support or against and there are no factions. The media soundbites are very pro-Martinez by the younger players and critical in a subtle way by the older members of the group.

We shall see what Blue Bill wants us to see. But he has gone very quiet of late.

Michael Winstanley
12 Posted 25/01/2016 at 22:07:22
That’s a great read, Peter. It’s disappointing it’s come to this as I had high hopes, I’d sack him today.
Rob Dolby
13 Posted 25/01/2016 at 22:11:19
There are comparisons between this team and the one in 1983-84. Young manager, Young team loads of talent but naive at times. Still in both cups should be further up the league. We aren’t far away from being a top team.

We need the manager to eat humble pie and get back to basics at the back.

I am all for controlled football though passing sideways for the sake of it whilst we have the best young striker in Europe wanting the ball early frustrates the hell out of me.

The ball is in Roberto's court, he needs to acknowledge the faults of his ethos or start planning his move back to Wigan.

David Hallwood
14 Posted 25/01/2016 at 23:30:17
The Wellington quote: "They came on in the same old way, and we sent them back in the same old way," is tailor made for our Bob. I've stopped going to the game after years of not missing a game, but even watching the game on TV it is bleedin' obvious what is going wrong.

Take the game on Sunday: 3 Swansea players pushed on to the back 4, with a further bank of 3 15-20 yards back closing us down and harrying us, and of course putting pressure on Stones; thereby stopping us playing and responsible for our slow start because we just can't get going. But once again, to state the bleedin' obvious, this isn't a one-off tactic by Swansea, this is now the norm when teams are playing against us, and so far Martinez hasn't got a tactic to combat it.

To get back to military matters: since the dawn of time, warfare has progressed by commanders finding strategies to beat their opponents, and if successful becomes the new dog's bollocks, until that too gets out dog's-bollocked by the new kid on the block, which in turn will be eventually too be out DB'd.

Martinez either doesn't realise that his strategy has been sussed or he believes in the purity and righteousness of his philosophy – so he's a fairly lousy general. What I find intensely frustrating, is the weakness of teams defending a high line is pace, and we've got pace to burn.

Why can't Martinez see what the rest of us can see; be a bit more militaristic if you like, still play from the back but as soon as the two lines push on, dink a 30-yard ball over the top for Gerry, Ross, Rom etc to run onto with only the back 4 to beat. Do that a few times and it would be a brave team that continued to hold the high line-and then he COULD go back to playing it from the back. But he does need to mix it up.

So is he mad? No just naïve, and to finish off with a military analogy, he isn't the first and won't be the last commander who think they are geniuses only to have the army routed. I'm with you Peter, he's got to go, to learn from your mistakes you've got to know what the mistakes are, and all his statements seems to have the subliminal message that when all the players get it we will win the Premier and everyone will recognise for the genius I am. BTW you can add deluded to naïvety .

Phil Walling
15 Posted 25/01/2016 at 23:34:33
In short, Roberto is not all good and not all bad. He just doesn't win enough Premier League games to prove his philosophy works!
Mike Corcoran
16 Posted 25/01/2016 at 23:41:25
David H, our esteemed commander is like a dog licking his own bollocks – all very satisfying for him, but not productive or interesting to watch.
Derek Thomas
17 Posted 26/01/2016 at 00:58:35
Rob @ 13; Comparisons, As I (maybe) go back further I see a better comparison. Carey's team; Moores tired of midtable nice football nearly but not quite. Enter - via taxi, Catterick, deep own still as pure, but overlaid with a quiet, ruthless, pragmatism.

He replaced Dunlop, with West. Then the, to him, too old and what was worse, mouthy take no shit from anybody player or Boss, Collins, with Workhorse and I use that in a good way, coz he could also play, Stevens. Signed Morrissey. Replaced Harris who was no slouch, not by a long chalk, with Kay. Take no shit players, who could also play as good, if not better than anybody in their position.

Martinez is our Carey, where's our Catterick...trouble is we lack a Moores to order the taxi and to hire the new Catterick.

I fear our only hope is that this due diligence includes the football as well as the accounts sides. And that somebody has the wit to ask the 'right people' the 'right questions' and that they give them the 'right answers'

This right answer is a 4 letter word, 'T' blank, blank, blank.?

All together now

'T***!


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