Martinez excited about new investment

I bet he bleeds blue too.

Call it the Urmanov Steel Ground and get another 𧴜 naming rights. We are on the up!

I am not sure where you get your figures from; Peter Coates is worth £750 million. Moshiri is worth £1.3 billion. So, by my reckoning, Moshiri has twice the wealth of Coates.

Coates is worth £1.6 billion according to a report in one of the broad sheets that were reporting the takeover on the weekend.

I'm very optimistic about this investment and can't wait to see the players we bring in this summer. Top targets are Yarmolenko and Jack Butland for me. Let's pay silly money and bring in the best GK we can get.

The FFP rules allow an overspend of £30m each year for three years, if the club has an owner who can pay off this excess to avoid a build up of debt. So a £100m investment in players during the summer falls well within any restrictions.

Never had to research that problem before, feels good!!!

That's our Bobby nailed on until next season at least.

Erm, what? You said you'd get us INTO Champions League positions. That is a very specific statement and it's one you've failed to achieve.

He set his stall out to improve the squad, which he has achieved. The next step was moving up the Premier League. Poor defending has halted progress even though we score goals for fun.

The next step, in which we are showing a vast improvement, is more clean sheets. I maintain full confidence in Martinez.

Hopefully Moshiri will put a new stadium as the top priority over letting rm spend his money wastefully on unnecessary attacking talent.

Can I ask what players Martinez has signed you consider as wasted money?

Right Mr Moshiri, or can I call you Farhad? You need the following players to take us to another level.

Butland or Forster
Right Back
Creative Midfielder
Yarmolenko

Do this and you'll be fine.

Just because I said waste doesn't mean the signings are bad, but rather spending on luxury players while not addressing what we truly need.

Would you rather we go out and spend 30mill on Mahrez when we're still conceding goals we shouldn't concede? (Not that Mahrez can be had for 30 mill)

I agree. I would add unique and incredible to the banned words. I think the defence has looked a lot tighter since John Stones dropped out.

Dennis, I agree we need to spend on defensive players. Maybe Niasse was too good to miss at the price? Time will tell.

Sounds like he's getting his excuses in early......hopefully the new guy can smell bullshit a mile off.

I personally don't think we need to spend a lot in defence because we probably have enough cover with the youngsters coming through. If Moshiri can give Martinez a big slap on the head and tell him off about our defence (perhaps even hiring a defensive coach), that might just turn things around. Until then, I can only wait to see how Mr Moshiri starts flexing his financial muscle after the season closes.

3 out of the last 13 and just 8 all season fails to persuade many of us to share your confidence in the man. Of course, when he's got real money to spend.... !

I agree though that we should have been looking at the defence but my view is that we already have good defenders, the manager just doesn't know (or wants) to set up the team better defensively. We have at least 7 international defenders in the squad so there's no excuse for shipping the amount of goals we do.

Re us getting a defensive coach I agree 100%

Dennis, our priority is a winning team not a shiny new stadium, all in good time.

Top players can make the managers job a lot easier, an extreme example would be to add Aguero and Hart to our team, how many more games do you think we would have won this season!

As Colin says add a top class goalie/ make that 2 full backs that can defend/a rough tough central defender/a creative midfielder/ and a top number 10 would help a lot.

What makes you think this person has "fallen in love" with Everton? The only reason he isn't still at Arsenal is because Groenke fended off the takeover attempt by Red & White. He didn't sell his interest in that company because of his new love for Everton.

He was looking for an EPL team to latch hold of for the $$$. Plain and simple. The other two possibilities are Aston Villa and Swansea and neither might be in the EPL next season thus making them not very attractive since the risk is huge if one were to miss out on the TV money.

I am happy this guy bought out a couple of the current people, if reports are true. However, can we hold the "he loves us he will do what is best for us" hyperbole until he actually puts additional money into the club and/or the transfer policy is actually in place and in use. Oh yeah, and the stadium issue is resolved too. He could promise the moon, sit back for a couple of years and do nothing and then sell his less than majority ownership interest while having taken a profit from the club's TV money as well as the return on his investment. Remember, the now former, and still some current owners, claimed not to be taking any $$ from the club. Will this guy do the same?

On the other hand, he could deliver on everything, bring his Russian pal in, and Everton can retake its seat at the big boys' table with Chelsea, both Manchesters, and Arsenal. Expensive players, new stadium and no freaking kitbag deals! This would truly be unchartered waters for Everton in the EPL.

I will root for the latter to occur, but would not be surprised by the former, if it occurs. Anyway, hope for the best and COYB!

More likely is he will put his money into creating the infrastructure for future, sustainable success, ie, a new stadium or a redeveloped Goodison. I certainly hope that will be the case.

And on "defence", the responsibility for that totally lies with him too. He's turned wine into water there. An incredible achievement.

Temple was castigated regularly and Young could do no wrong and that sort of thing has happened throughout our history.

Fans who cannot even speak English correctly snipe at Martinez for his minor language errors. Most foreign people can speak other languages but along with the Americans we are the worst for speaking other languages and arrogantly expect foreign people to learn English.It always makes me smile to hear us calling Germans arrogant when we are at least as arrogant ourselves.... :)

I don't mind people trying to impress the new boss, but Roberto is blowing so much smoke up his arse, the guy must think he's a chimney.

I originally thought Martinez may be worth another season under Kenwright... but, the more I think about it, the more I think we need to unload Martinez.

I would hate him to get a load of dosh and squander it on players like Kone or McCarthy.

There's plenty of large modern stadiums in the various leagues but they're lacking the most important ingredient and that's a top notch team.

We need both in an ideal world, but the quality of the team comes first for me.

If the cap fits and all that. LOL

If he didn't apply superlatives to just about everything then I'd be reading this piece with genuine excitement.

Rule one is that players who hope to play must do exactly as the manager tells them. Do that, and with the right manager they get famous and richer. If you get the wrong manager, do it anyway, but if you're rated (our "famous four" for example) just move on to somewhere better, courtesy of your self-serving agent, and bollocks to the failing tactics that stymied your success. For players, it's that simple... and probably frustrates the hell out of them at the same time.

Managers therefore carry the can. It's in their job description, or bloody well should be. This season has been "incredibly" disappointing to most of us courtesy of a bloke with seven consecutive years of experience in the Premier League, unlike the majority of other teams, including little old £30mill-in-total Leicester City.

Roberto's been embroiled in a project, and a long-term one at that. Signing young, incredibly talented players at the genesis of their career and looking to hold them and see winning ways over a period of years, not weeks.

Mr Moshiri has been involved with Arsenal. Arsenal is a Club that is run excellently in my opinion. They do not break wage structures they can not cope with, they rarely overspend on acquiring players, they invest and then look to eradicate debt, and they invest heavily in young players. And, they appreciate stability in their managerial position while attempting to play pretty stuff.

I think Moshiri sees this footprint already in motion thanks to Mr Martinez's vision and believe he's invested wisely with a like-minded Club and landscape.

I see this as a perfect fit, and one that will bear fruit. Possibly not as quickly as many TWers would prefer, but the future, in my humble opinion, is quite bright based upon what Roberto has put in place and Moshiri's history at Arsenal and their business model.

Time will tell. But for me these puzzle pieces are nicely set in place. A damn good fit.

Three to five years from now – completely pulling that time frame out arbitrarily – can you not see this squad dominating? Everton, thanks to new investment in a new stadium or a redeveloped Goodison, challenging for silverware and honors? All the while on a solid financial footing?

I can.

Off to dream about unicorns and rainbows in my utopia-based world.

Anyone willing to take bets it won't happen? Give me odds. You're on.

Smile people. If Ross Barkley is a diamond, I think we may have just unearthed another one at the top of the business pyramid. Hope to God my initial reaction to all these developments is accurate...

But that's been done to death.

I would say if it's not Martinez, I'd think it will be someone in charge who has a very, very close "philosophy" and looks to keep a sane business model and invest heavily in youth. Martinez has done that, and I don't see Moshiri, based upon his affiliation with Arsenal, looking to change that.

Hence, the next step in my mind would be to secure a new stadium. I agree if we go all out for the stadium, it would hurt our squad or worse, much like Arsenal's annual finish of 4th, but making a stadium top priority isn't about building it overnight. We need to have a solid plan that is in line with our finances and a timeline that suits and does not affect our business model. As our history under BK has shown, they don't even have a concrete plan for a new stadium. So hopefully Mr Moshiri can do much more than BK in that regard.

RM said he'd fallen in love with the club. My sentiments echo yours. Tripe.

That is a great post mate. Martinez has massively improved our squad, the vast majority of his signings have been great ones. Yes, he's signed a couple of duds but what manager doesn't? We are scoring goals for fun and are tightening our defence over the last 6 or 7 games.

Patience is needed from the fans, some of our fans want him in one week, out the next and in the next. Make your mind up and stick with it.

Americanisms aside, my view on this guy is that he's a money smart, knowledgeable football man, which is something we can't say we've boasted in recent years. Even if we had an extra £10m to spend in every transfer window for the next couple of years and a vision for the future with regards to the stadium, then I'll be happy!

The only downside, as far as I can see, is that we have to be prepared to live with Martinez for rather longer than some of us may have anticipated.

Eventually I'm sure a more clinical analysis by Moshiri of results and table position, rather than Martinez's own assessment of incredible 'performances', will enable him to make the right decision.

Unfortunately for those of us who are committed non-believers, this may require another season of living with the pursuance of the misguided Barcelona project.

Couldn't agree more. What the fuck does this "can I get" mean? It doesn't make sense.

"Can I have" is what they mean to say but TV speak is what comes out. As my Liverpool born American mate used to say to me: "Shit for brains!"

Jamie Crowley I will give you any odds that you're wrong about Bobby becoming successful and will be more than happy to be proved wrong and pay you in jelly donuts, crap American beer, or just good ole US $$$$

Dream on because currently we are a nightmare.

You'd have to be a total sycophant or lack the basic ability to think, to even suggest people should "make your mind up and stick with it".

Circumstances change all the time and opinions (if given with any thought at all) should be adjusted accordingly.

If you are skint and fighting relegation, you bring in a Davey Moyes. If you are trying to hold on to your better players, you want a stubborn fucker in charge who won't sell, like Roberto... but, if you have just been taken over by a billionaire, you are in a position to forget about one-dimensional second raters and hire a top-drawer manager.

"Make your mind up and stick with it"? Has there ever been a dafter post on these pages?

You were one of the posters I had in mind. You repeatedly slagged Martinez off vehemently, we recently got a couple of wins and you posted along the lines of "I am ready to give him a chance, he has got something going here". Now, he is out again?

My post was merely suggesting the "in-out, in-out, shake it all about" posters stuck to their opinion for more than a couple of weeks.

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and get right behind our new Blue Leader Mr Moshiri.

From what I have read about him I reckon he is smart enough to sort out whether or not we have the right CEO, Coach, Players, Sponsorship Deals, etc as well as sort out the stadium issue.

The big plus for me – call it intuition if you like – he swapped Arsenal for Everton and backed his decision with a lot of his own money.

I am not going take any notice of any paper or Sky pundit that try's to bad mouth him – I reckon they are rattled.

Not sure what your definition is on the term but here you go:

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/sycophantic

He said when he signed his contract he would get us to the Champions League, knowing full well what our financial situation already was, and truth be known, he has been backed much better than Moyes ever was. I mean he was given the funds to absolutely smash our transfer record, he was backed to keep Stones, even when not one Evertonian believed it would happen.

Yet his theory of accelerating our push for Champions League only goes to prove that Martinez was not ever going to deliver on his initial promise.

Martinez signed a 4-year deal, he is now in his third year of that contract, and we are further away from that elusive Champions League spot than we have been in a decade.

Surely this is something our new owner has to look at before allowing Martinez free reign on the upcoming transfer budget?

If we are now able to compete for big players (not saying we are yet like, but IF), then maybe we need a manager who will have everyone believe we can offer them players Champions League football.

I'd say you have got that totally wrong Anthony. Loads of us believed we would keep Stones, especially after Mourinho's antics.

I think we may lose one of Lukaku / Stones even with this new guy involved; I think it will be the former but would rather it be the latter.

Martinez has three years remaining after this season.

Having watched every major player we have been offered for under Kenwright taken from us, I was almost amazed to see John Stones stay, as was ever blue I've spoken to.

I'm not shooting you down and agree that some of the big players may jump ship even though we have investment, simply because the likes of Lukaku deserves a crack at a team capable of challenging for major honours.

As for Martinez having 3 years left on his deal, I'm well aware of that.

If you check his initial contract, you will find he was originally given just a four year deal, this was when he claimed he would deliver Champions league football, it was a season after when Kenwright extended Martinez deal, somewhat prematurely, after Martinez finished with a record points haul for us.

My point was that if his promise of Champions league football was to be delivered, then he should be achieving it next season, without any extra transfer funds.

Maybe I'm a bit harsh as I feel Martinez is massively under qualified to manage us.

"I'm ready to give him a chance he's got something going here"... where do you get this stuff? I was going to challenge you to find that post, but there's no point, you wont, because you have done what you always do – made it up.

I did post saying it may be worth keeping him because he isn't willing to sell top players. That's an entirely different thing and, contrary to it being on the back of "a couple of wins" I said it when Martinez was on the crest of yet another slump.

You may attempt to slag off other posters for no longer wanting to tolerate your hero's shortcomings, but the only hokey cokey going on here is in your head.

There has been a massive change in our club's situation, probably the biggest change in 20 years, and only a bleeding idiot would not to re-evaluate the situation.

We don't need the second rater to hang on to our players now. It might irritate you that thousands and thousands are giving our new situation a bit of thought, but I'm mightily relieved that they recognise the scale of the change and are engaging their brains.

Thankfully the blindly devoted are in an ever-shrinking minority, the shrewder observer has long since recognised we can do an awful lot better.

I for one have said for a very long time that Martinez should be moved on, I never thought he was good enough in the first place.

My opinion was based on interviews I'd seen week-in, week-out were he was saying how happy watching Wigan lose but play well made him.

I find this crazy.

I also based my opinion on the fact he was always destined to relagate Wigan, constantly playing dog shit defenders at the back like Gary Caldwell and Paul Sharner.

The first season, I felt he had over achieved and hit his ceiling early on. To a degree he proved me wrong, doing well in the Premier League. That said, my opinion on him could not have been much stronger after watching us be rolled over like a bunch of school kids away in the FA Cup to Arsenal.

I tried to put that and a few other really bad performances down to it being his first season, and concentrated on the positives.

The next season this all changed. By the middle of the season I was convinced, that when we were still in the Europa League, and still had a replay in the FA Cup vs West Ham, our league form was awful and Martinez looked well out of his depth.

I feel this has been a ongoing situation, Martinez has failed to see any faults in our make-up until it's far too late. Tim Howard is a prime example.

Gareth Barry was a similar case last season, when he desperately needed leaving out to sort out his horrific form, which continued almost all season.

Not sorting out obvious problems in the defensive department, especially when it came to defending free kicks and corners.

Insisting on playing players simply not good enough for the Premier League, such as Kone and Alcaraz.

Giving out loyalty contracts too annoyed me, as Martinez did not have to show loyalty to players who had not played for him for long.

Howard was given a deal that no one else on the planet would have given out.

Hibbert was rewarded with a new deal to sit in the background. Gibson was given a deal despite the fact he is never fit. Yet despite these loyalty deals, Martinez made a scape goat out of Distin who had served us well, and Mirallas who he has totally shit on.

All of the above has made me firmly believe that Martinez is not the man who should take us forward, we should look for better now, while we have a talented squad, and while we have new funding.