Season › 2015-16 › News Report: Niasse arrested on suspicion of assault Lyndon Lloyd , 14 May, 117comments | Jump to most recent Oumar Niasse has been bailed pending further enquiries into an incident that occurred in Manchester in the early hours of yesterday, report The Mirror. The Senegal striker was arrested after Salford police were called to a property following a report of assault and the 26-year-old was taken into custody. He was after released on bail until 27th May. A spokesman for Greater Manchester Police said: "Officers attended and a 26-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of assault and was taken into police custody for questioning. He has been bailed until 27 May 2016 pending further enquiries.” Article continues below video content A spokesperson from Everton, meanwhile, said: “The club condemns unreservedly any form of abuse. In this case, we understand an investigation is underway to establish the facts.” Reader Comments (117) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer Tony Hill 1 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:05:45 I don't care. Steve Bingham 2 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:07:28 WTF ?! That's a bloody great start to his career ! Mind you the new boss may well see right through him and his Everton career may already be over before its begun ! Patrick Carty 3 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:08:50 That's the first thing he has assaulted this year!!! Antony Matthews 4 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:08:53 Cant have used his hands. He needed them to play football. Andy Crooks 5 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:09:07 God Almighty, you really couldn't make it up. Joseph Terrence 6 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:11:43 Get rid. Sandra Williams 7 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:14:30 He was probably in police custody for more time than he's spent on the pitch for us! Maybe he'll be deported..... Andy Crooks 8 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:15:13 Could Martinez have left him here as a kind of payback? Sack me ? Well fucking take that. A kind of land mine of shite for our new coach. Gavin Johnson 9 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:18:48 Will he be released if he's found guilty of assault? I know we released Danny Cadamartari, but I seem to remember Steven Pienaar being arrested for a similar incident and no action being taken. Garry Corgan 10 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:19:36 Stupid little boy. Jos Rowland 11 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:20:32 Please Everton learn your lesson from buying Russian league players they are dreadful. McGeady even looked good in that league. Christ, please sack this idiot immediately.Personally at the beginning I was up for giving him a chance but any player that needs 4 months to get fit is just a joke ! Add to that how woeful he looks on a football field and now this!!Especially how humiliated the club and fans have been recently, get rid now and make an example he doesn't deserve a well paid career clearly not professional one bit and what's he doing out partying at 1 am Friday when he may be playing the Sunday ???? Bye bye loch Niasse you joke ! Kieran Kinsella 12 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:22:24 No more Mr Niasse Guy Peter Carpenter 13 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:22:25 Did he assault a slim 42 year old Spaniard?'Where's the diamonds? You promised!' Michael Neely 14 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:23:20 I refuse to believe Niasse hit anything !!! Rick Pattinson 15 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:23:32 What's he doing in manchester....please fuxking tell me he's signing for Utd... Peter Carpenter 16 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:24:14 Apparently he swung at the fella in front of him and hit the one behind. Brian Williams 17 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:25:24 Deportation? That'll do nicely! Jim Bennings 18 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:25:50 Worst £13.5 million pound we will ever spend!Never fit, not good enough, doesn't look like a footballer and basically if we can get someone from anywhere to pay even half of what we were mad enough to spend on him then I think we have got to take it and just put this aside as a Martinez mistake not an Everton one. Paul Smith 19 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:30:55 Look on the bright side, he'll be able to do Everton in the community payback. Peter Carpenter 20 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:31:32 Careful, you'll hurt your wrist! Ed Fitzgerald 21 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:33:59 He lives in Manchester as does his wife, if he has assaulted somebody some of the comments on this thread are distasteful at best. Steve Butterworth 22 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:34:37 It says 'striker'. Not guilty! Jay Wood 23 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:36:36 Wasn't one of his motivations to join us to be reunited with his Manchester-based girlfriend? Possible domestic violence..? Jim Bennings 24 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:41:28 Never sat well with me the convenience of Niasse's move from Russia to a club that is 30 miles away from where his wife is living.The whole deal smacked of something untoward but I doubt we will ever find out just what. Alan Humphreys 25 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:42:16 All conjecture but sadly if true not even able to say he's wasted his talent... Colin Glassar 27 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:49:55 Send him back to Siberia!! James Watts 28 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:50:31 Well, at least he's finally made a contribution. I'm sure he'll be a stand out in the prison team, after all he's pacey, tries really hard ... Stephen Brown 29 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:53:38 How much could we realistically expect to recoup if we off loaded ? I think we would struggle to get half back ! Danny Broderick 30 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:54:28 This proves he's an attacker, but not the kind we were hoping for... Kevin Rowlands 31 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:54:52 Doubt we'll see him anywhere near the team tomorrow, one of the lads on TPF posted that a mate of his had bumped into Joe Royle and had asked him what the story was with Niasse, Big Joe's reply "he's fucking shit". David Hallwood 33 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:56:56 A lot of the Everton players live in Manchester. God only knows why Damian Wilde 34 Posted 14/05/2016 at 21:58:55 The dibble "occupation please, sir." NIasse "professional footballer." The dibble "listen son, don't take the piss you're in enough trouble."You couldn't make it up could you. Feck me. John Daley 36 Posted 14/05/2016 at 22:03:45 "John Daley 3Â Posted 17/02/2016 at 20:45:04 Flag this comment. Â |Â I saw him a few times over in the Russian league and if he can show the same energy levels and enthusiasm he did for Lokomotiv then I can see him becoming something of a crowd favourite, given time".Please take the piss. Self-flagellation will no longer suffice. Best insult wins a prize. James Stewart 37 Posted 14/05/2016 at 22:05:52 Worst transfer ever! Couldn't make this shit up! Kristian Boyce 38 Posted 14/05/2016 at 22:10:39 I also heard they were looking into fraud charges as well. He's been masquerading as a footballer for the last few months. Steve Woods 40 Posted 14/05/2016 at 22:12:48 Hiring Niasse was probably worthy of a managerial sacking in its own hideous right. Kevin Rowlands 41 Posted 14/05/2016 at 22:14:46 All joking aside, I find it staggering and beyond belief that the club is spending THIRTEEN MILLION POUND and proper due diligence and scouting wasn't done here, I mean WTF???? Peter Carpenter 42 Posted 14/05/2016 at 22:16:15 Proper scouting WAS done. They all looked at Youtube. Kunal Desai 44 Posted 14/05/2016 at 22:19:59 He's a pain in the Niasse alright. Colin Glassar 45 Posted 14/05/2016 at 22:28:33 I think all involved should have their pay docked to pay for his transfer fee. Tony Hill 46 Posted 14/05/2016 at 22:42:14 John (36), allow me to join you in the stocks. I believed my brother-in-law's imprimatur. Oh well, if you're going to get it wrong, do so spectacularly.Legally, this would almost certainly mean we can get out of the contract and dismiss him summarily if he's ever charged and convicted, which of course he may not be. Tony Byrne 47 Posted 14/05/2016 at 22:48:41 Colin#45I think this may have already happened.....Martinez,Jones,Reeves,Lawrence....pay not just docked ; )) Peter Carpenter 48 Posted 14/05/2016 at 22:50:13 Kevin 31, I don't believe Joe Royle uses language like that. My 90 year old mother will be very upset, she loves Joe. Winston Williamson 49 Posted 14/05/2016 at 22:50:29 Doesn't this smack of a bit of an Andy Van Dan Man? We spend a bit of money, he comes to England to live in Manc with his bird. Goes out partying a bit too much and cannot get fit. Club try to brush it under the carpet in the hope he sorts himself out soon, but he ends up getting arrested...There again it might not be that and I'm way off Clive Rogers 50 Posted 14/05/2016 at 22:52:02 He's not cost us £13 million. At 55 grand a week with a four and a half year contract, the total is £26 million. Chris Corn 53 Posted 14/05/2016 at 22:59:18 Well if he tried to kick them he'll get off. No case to answer. Kevin Rowlands 55 Posted 14/05/2016 at 23:04:39 Peter lol, it's a pity we didn't send Joe over to Russia to scout him, would have been 13m better off right now, seriously though I wasn't Naisy's biggest fan but why the fuck sell him and loan out Mcaleny, both of whom are far better than this fool. The whole thing makes no sense whatsoever. James Marshall 56 Posted 14/05/2016 at 23:04:52 "The Senegalese forward arrived at Goodison with a reputation for having pace, strength and a high work rate"However, it appears he has no footballing ability whatsoever. Anthony Dwyer 57 Posted 14/05/2016 at 23:17:53 The good news is, his wrist has healed up. Jason Barker 58 Posted 14/05/2016 at 23:18:09 It goes from bad to worse for the third most expensive signing in or history. Let's just cut our losses and ditch the fool. Buffoonery of the highest order. Ian Burns 59 Posted 14/05/2016 at 23:18:54 What the hell is doing fighting in the early hours of Friday morning - don't we have a match tomorrow?This transfer gets more questionable by the day. 4 months to get fit; looks lost when he is on the pitch, third most expensive signing in our history! Something amiss here! Andy Walker 60 Posted 14/05/2016 at 23:20:54 I believe he was in a bar in Manchester when a bloke dressed as a ref came in, then it all kicked off.. Bob Hannigan 61 Posted 14/05/2016 at 23:50:51 Hope he didn't reinjure his wrist! Brian Williams 64 Posted 15/05/2016 at 00:04:56 Ian 59. The report didn't mention him "fighting" the report mentioned "assault."Big, BIG difference! James Watts 65 Posted 15/05/2016 at 00:06:27 Nope Ian (59), game is on Sunday.But looks like he didn't take Martinez sacking well. Now he knows he has no chance of getting in the team. Peter Howard 66 Posted 14/05/2016 at 00:07:46 Maybe his longstanding wrist injury was caused by his hand -cuffs being too tight.Never thought I'd ever say that but I have. Yes, indeed.... 'Longstanding wrist injury'. Liam Reilly 67 Posted 15/05/2016 at 00:14:39 Pitchforks at the ready.The guy won player of the year in Russia; isn't the population quite big there? Give him a pre season for fucks sake. Mike Hughes 68 Posted 15/05/2016 at 00:18:09 Liam - give him the pre-season; just don't give him any pitchforks. Sean Kelly 69 Posted 15/05/2016 at 00:20:04 Couldn't hit a barn door from two feet. Not guilty your honour. Andrew Presly 71 Posted 15/05/2016 at 00:32:22 Loan him back to Russia for a 2/3 mil loan fee (Euro or Pound) let him settle and transfer for 3-5 of either currency this time next year.Best teams in any sport move on from losses fast. Fail quickly. James Marshall 72 Posted 15/05/2016 at 00:57:27 Pre season? Why? He's been here since February - how long does he need to get fit? Christ, I could be fit enough to play for Everton if you gave me a training program for 3 months.The bloke isn't up to it, and until we're proved otherwise, I think everyone has every right to call him a lemon. So I will - Oumar Niasse is a lemon. There, I said it. Dominic Tonge 73 Posted 15/05/2016 at 01:02:44 This is a load of shite, apparently a26 year old male was alleged to have hot a barn door with a banjo, the first officer on scene recognised that the accused was a Mr O. Niasse and realised that this was in now at shape or form even remotely possible. A Snr Martinez has since been arrested for wasting police time. Dominic Tonge 74 Posted 15/05/2016 at 01:04:21 Also , if he can chin someone, his wrist can't be in that bad shape. Just sayin like. Jack Convery 75 Posted 15/05/2016 at 01:06:47 He's part of the deal to bring Yarmolenko to Goodison. Kiev cannot give money to a Russian team so told us to do it. We get Yarmolenko for 㿂m with 㾹m being the value of Niasse - nothing else makes sense to me. Unless of course EFC talent scounts are just as bad at talent spotting as this lad is at fooball.If he does come up before a judge he'll need to tell him he has 13.5 million other offences to take into account. James Marshall 76 Posted 15/05/2016 at 01:08:06 As I said the other day - if Martinez is to be given the quoted £12m pay-off, can't we just give him Niasse and call it quits? Joseph Walsh 78 Posted 15/05/2016 at 01:40:38 If we terminated his contract for gross misconduct we would end up with nothing for him at all. Best thing to do would be farm him out on loan back to Russia. Chris Wilson 80 Posted 15/05/2016 at 02:16:11 I can't recall, did Roberto say that he had seen this guy play? The head scout walked out the door with Roberto, yes? If not, he needs to be packing up the office, and making use of the office computer and paper clips while he can.This had panic buy written all over it anyway. I think I recall journalists and others in the know saying we paid at least twice his value, and that was before it took 3 months for his wrist to heal up enough where he could run. What a freaking joke! David Hallwood 81 Posted 15/05/2016 at 03:33:05 The difference Winston(#49) is that shandy had obvious talent and that's not something that can be said about My Arse Matt Traynor 82 Posted 15/05/2016 at 03:54:48 John Daley #36, to be fair, given this awful signing is probably one of the (many) things that saw RM get the boot, you could make a case that he turned out to be a crowd pleaser. There'll be a campaign to build a statue of him next. Nicholas Ryan 83 Posted 15/05/2016 at 03:57:46 As I said on another thread: Niasse £13.5 mill. No evidence of footballing ability. Andros Townsend: £12 mill. Scoring goals for fun; just called up to England squad .... Ah, well! John Daley 85 Posted 15/05/2016 at 04:22:34 "There'll be a campaign to build a statue of him next"Done..Link Anto Byrne 86 Posted 15/05/2016 at 05:03:03 Best if they send him out on loan somewhere never to be heard again. Phil Walling 87 Posted 15/05/2016 at 05:56:43 I'm told Player of the Year in Russia is bid for by agents rather than voted on by journos or fellow players.That may have led to the late escalation in the fee. Pure speculation, of course, but must go down as the all-time biggest con perpetrated on our club. Duncan McDine 88 Posted 15/05/2016 at 06:11:49 James Marshal, thats an inspired bit of thinking. I can picture him as Roberto's butler, changing channel for him on his 11 tv's as Bobby compliments his efforts. Brian Porter 89 Posted 15/05/2016 at 06:22:16 I'm sure I remember Martinez waxing lyrical about his skills and work rate before he joined us and again at his photo call with that cheeky thumbs up and big smile. Can't blame the lad for smiling. He must have thought all his birthdays had come at once.The mere fact that he's since been proved an unfit abject useless lump should in itself have been rough to sack Martinez. Let's be honest, he'd just taken 㾹.5m plus,a similar sum in salary of his employers money and effectively thrown it away. Might as well gave kept Nessie who might have produced a few more goals for us before the end of the season. Would love to know what he really thought of RM.Niasse looked like a panic buy when other clubs were bringing in decent players from abroad, the window was closing and Martinez knew he had to do something to placate the fans who were already voicing discontent about his management. This guy is simply not even good enough for most league two clubs, with respect to League Two clubs of course. I'd be very surprised if we ever recoup anything like his,original transfer fee, but we need to get shut if for no other reason than to save on his wages. He's getting rich for doing nothing, ffs. Amit Vithlani 91 Posted 15/05/2016 at 06:55:41 This bloke is turning out to be a terrible Baye. Rick Tarleton 92 Posted 15/05/2016 at 07:17:53 Yes, but is he available for the Norwich game? he may be utter crap, but unfortunately he's our utter crap. Tony Steele 93 Posted 15/05/2016 at 08:57:27 So lost. Ray Robinson 94 Posted 15/05/2016 at 09:12:37 Swap him for Denis Stracqualursi! Tony McDonald 95 Posted 15/05/2016 at 09:19:49 The alleged victim, a Mr.Cows Arse has told police he missed him altogether. A weapon, believed to be a banjo was taken away by police for forensics Barry McNally 99 Posted 15/05/2016 at 10:05:33 Can he be sacked and claim back the £13.5m on the insurance? Insurance co. will claim he was over insured by £13.5m, no pay out!! Max Murphy 100 Posted 15/05/2016 at 10:17:19 Whoever was responsible for buying him should be jailed with no bail! Hang your collective heads in shame. Jim Bennings 102 Posted 15/05/2016 at 10:58:31 We'd hear the same excuses at the start of next season , fasting during Ramadan meaning he's way short of match fitness..No, no chance and there's every chance the new manager will say the same thing."On yer bike lad" John Ford 103 Posted 15/05/2016 at 11:07:05 Stats 15/16:Shots on target 1 v 1 No of arrests Shane Corcoran 104 Posted 15/05/2016 at 11:13:42 Some good old fashioned British Justice on show on ToffeeWeb. Steve Brown 105 Posted 15/05/2016 at 11:19:38 Agree with Andrew @ 71, loan him back to Russian club as his stock must still be reasonably high there. Get his wages off the bill now and see if we can pick up a permanent fee for him somewhere down the line. He will never be good enough for the PL and we all know it. Scott Hall 106 Posted 15/05/2016 at 11:23:24 I wonder if he'll have a 6-month review like in other jobs.How do you feel things have gone Oumar? Steve Brown 107 Posted 15/05/2016 at 11:43:54 Yes, Scott.Please 1-2 things that went well.Please 25 things that could be even better. Peter Jansson 108 Posted 15/05/2016 at 12:18:42 Maybe Martinez should be arrested for buying this idiot... Take him to court and let him pay for this shit1 Daniel A Johnson 109 Posted 15/05/2016 at 12:23:50 Another Van der Meyde, we've been had.Dubious skill and ability and now of dubious temperment.Cut our losses now we will recuperate some with wages saved. Jay Griffiths 110 Posted 15/05/2016 at 12:39:09 Hope he's not another wife beating shithouse. Ala Sterling. Jay Griffiths 111 Posted 15/05/2016 at 12:41:52 And there's his agent dropping him off.http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-dog-scat-beach-thailand-image47926205 David Williams 112 Posted 15/05/2016 at 13:07:21 With reference to Jim Bennings post #102, and other similar posts that I have seen relating to other Muslim players, I just wanted to point out that the date of Ramadan is variable. This is because the Islamic calendar is a lunar calendar consisting of 12 months in a year of 354 or 355 days. Ramadan is the ninth month in the Islamic calendar. By way of illustration, in 2015 Ramadan began on June 18th, this year it begins on June 7th and next year it begins on May 27th. Note that these are the dates for Ramadan in the UK.Source: LinkSo it is not correct to assume that the majority of Ramadan always occurs during football's traditional pre-season period of July to mid-August. For example, this year Ramadan runs from June 7th to July 7th, so a slight overlap with the start of pre-season. Next year it runs from May 27th to June 26th, so no overlap at all with the start of pre-season. Gerard Carey 113 Posted 15/05/2016 at 13:13:21 Just maybe he was arrested for impersonating a footballer!!! Paul Webb 114 Posted 15/05/2016 at 13:27:23 Just watched the Scout Nation highlights reel from 2015 (term highlights used lightly, they were obviously so short of material there are a couple of missed shots) for our 3rd most expensive signing. He has a cast on his wrist for most of the clips and they value him at £5million. Looks like we have been mugged. Frank Thomas 116 Posted 15/05/2016 at 14:34:03 James (76) where has the 㾸M pay off come from? That would be the entire salary for the next 3 years. If we pay him that much we should keep him on for the remaining 3 years reporting daily to an office somewhere in the training ground. Then Valencia would either pay us compensation or he could resign with 3 months pay.He would not be the manager just someone behind a window seat. Peter Fearon 121 Posted 15/05/2016 at 18:14:20 I said last week he couldn't get himself arrested. I was wrong! Hats off Oumar! Give him a one-way ticket to Senegal. Dave Williams 122 Posted 15/05/2016 at 18:42:00 Daniel #109 Van der Meijde had buckets of skill and ability and in his first half dozen games looked a very good player. He was beset with a lot of personal problems not least his daughter being born with a very serious defect which is still a serious problem to this day and he couldn't cope and alcohol and fitness became a problem.He could have been a very good player for us and on what I have seen so far cannot be compared to Niasse. Tony Draper 123 Posted 15/05/2016 at 19:04:27 Just going from strength to strength this lad.Perhaps this goes some way to explaining his fucked arm ? Colin Glassar 124 Posted 15/05/2016 at 19:09:01 Niasse's arrest seems to be the last, sad episode in Roberto's tenure. It's tragic how it's worked out for both of them. Tony Draper 125 Posted 15/05/2016 at 19:13:48 Lucy Alexander or David Dickinson or that perv with bow tie couldn't flog this bugger ! Andy Cooper 126 Posted 15/05/2016 at 19:32:05 Pound for pound the worst Everton addition on and off the field in my time as a fan... Martin Mason 127 Posted 15/05/2016 at 21:33:46 On his wife I guess? Andy Crooks 128 Posted 15/05/2016 at 22:32:26 Good post, Shane # 104. Tony Abrahams 129 Posted 15/05/2016 at 22:35:46 I didn't think you wrote anything serious John 36!Someone wrote on T/W, the other week, that this transfer should be looked at for money laundering. Its definitely got me thinking, especially the prudent way we have usually operated, under this regime.Maybe a parting gift for the magician? Jay Griffiths 130 Posted 15/05/2016 at 22:57:39 We're going to get pelters from the other lot about this one. Justifiably!The whole affair is grotesque and embarrassing.To use a simple analogy. Snatch, the £10,000 purchase.Locomotive directors= Bricktop and Boris the blade.Niasse's agent= Micky O'Neil.Roberto and Bill= Tommy the Tit and Gorgeous George.Niasse = The caravan. Tony Abrahams 131 Posted 15/05/2016 at 23:03:17 It cost me a lot of money that film one very drunken day Jay, because of how funny it is. Nothing funny about Niasse, though, except he looks like an extra out of mean machine. Phil Walling 132 Posted 15/05/2016 at 23:09:20 Steve @105: my Russian neighbour tells me that if he gets a conviction on any charge, he will not be allowed back into Russia to play football or do anything else. 'We have standards'.... cough, cough . John Pickles 133 Posted 16/05/2016 at 00:49:46 Has Duncan just started mentoring him? Nicky Styles 134 Posted 16/05/2016 at 09:19:00 Reminds me of the whole van der Meyde shananigan. Only ever active on his own time (shakes head) Kevin Turner 136 Posted 16/05/2016 at 16:35:00 It is at this stage an alleged assault so be careful what you say. If true however then it should hasten the departure of this guy. He's not good enough, I think we all know that and there'll be theories about how or why we even bought him. When you consider how skint we've been for more years than you care to remember and we waste 㾹m! It beggars belief. If Moshiri is the businessman we all hear he is then there's going to be one hell of change within the club both on the playing front and the backroom/business side and not a moment too soon. Keith Harrison 137 Posted 17/05/2016 at 08:30:47 I was speaking with Mr Royle on Friday night at a sportsman's dinner. I posted on here Saturday morning that he wouldn't be anywhere near the squad before the news of his 'misdemeanour' came out.He wasn't scouted, and I believe all those involved in the transfer no longer appear to be employees. As Niasse is so shit, I'm not divulging earth-shattering confidences here. The rest of our discussion is not for public consumption. Keith Harrison 138 Posted 17/05/2016 at 08:31:43 And Joe Royle is an absolute gentleman. Definite Blues legend. Oliver Molloy 139 Posted 18/05/2016 at 20:09:31 Has anyone heard any further news regards this? Keith Harrison 140 Posted 19/05/2016 at 07:51:42 He's been provisionally charged under the Trades Descriptions act. Allegedly he wrote his occupation as "football player" on the charge sheet. Bob Parrington 141 Posted 21/05/2016 at 00:31:28 Shane #104 Yup! Couldn't have put it better. Seems a case of guilt without trial. Might have been handbags at 10 paces or even an attempted set-up. Let's not hang the guy just because some fella thought he was worth Pds13.5 million of Everton's money. Paul Bromley 142 Posted 21/05/2016 at 03:44:07 This incident is more an opportunity rather than a problem. If he is convicted of assault, then we have good cause to cancel his contract. Problem solved and £55k per week saved. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. About these ads © ToffeeWeb