Season › 2017-18 › News Lookman marks another debut with late goal Saturday, 3 February, 2018 51comments | Jump to most recent Ademola Lookman got his loan spell at Red Bull Leipzig off to the perfect start by scoring an 89th-minute winner for his new team. Leipzig were drawing 0-0 at Borussia Moenchengladbach when the 20-year-old popped up with the all-important goal. Deemed to BE surplus to first-team requirements at Everton by Sam Allardyce, Lookman pushed for a temporary move away earlier this window and was granted his wish when he joined Leipzig until the end of the season. He marked his Blues debut last year by scoring a very late goal just minutes into his first senior game, a memorable 4-0 win over Manchester City. Reader Comments (51) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer Minik Hansen 1 Posted 03/02/2018 at 21:10:25 Perfect start for him. He shall learn his trade with top players surrounding him. This was a great call by the club, we can't rely on young players (except Pickford, Davies and Vlasic) this season. Will be great to have him back for pre-season. Rahul Gandhi 2 Posted 03/02/2018 at 21:18:08 Why bother... He may not be returning. Brian Hennessy 3 Posted 03/02/2018 at 21:25:40 I fear if Sam is here next season we will lose Ademola for good. A talented lad with a bright future in the game.Ahh well, at least we kept hold of Schniderlin... John Anderson 4 Posted 03/02/2018 at 22:03:47 Great call by the club? They wanted him to go to Derby!! It was only his stubbornness that got him to Leipzig. I must be clueless about football because to me he looks like a player. But Fat Sam started Bolasie ahead of him – makes no sense to me. Andrew Keatley 5 Posted 03/02/2018 at 22:16:33 Hopefully Lookman will benefit from his half-season in Germany; staying part of our first-team squad is a poisoned chalice at the moment whether young players have been playing regularly (like Kenny) or are consistently overlooked (like Vlasic is and Lookman was).We desperately need major surgery throughout our club otherwise, the young talent we have, which is currently providing the only slight glimmer of hope, will be gone sooner rather than later. Robert Leigh 6 Posted 03/02/2018 at 22:17:18 Just seen Sam's comments on Lookman. Rather than saying how delighted he is that he got on the pitch, and scored a goal; he says ‘Don't need him, I have 㿊mil Bolasie and a 㿀mil Walcott, he wouldn't have played'. Not using this lad is one thing, but being bitter that he wanted to play and then not encouraging him is criminal. Get Silva in the Summer and let Lookman play! Andrew Keatley 7 Posted 03/02/2018 at 22:42:41 Robert (6), That comment from Allardyce suggests that reputation and cost of a player are probably more important than form and ability when it comes to picking a team. He is a relic from a bygone era and we need to modernise this club before we get completely left behind. Andrew James 10 Posted 03/02/2018 at 23:00:47 Bolasie? Bolasie?Steve Walsh?Thanks Steve for signing us a Nike advert exhibition player. Jim Hardin 11 Posted 03/02/2018 at 23:56:13 So for those wondering what Lookman might learn over in Germany, I guess the answer is, how to score a game-winning goal.Hope FS is gone by the end of the season because it seems like, if Sam stays, Lookman will go. I know which of the two I prefer to see wearing any shirt with Everton on it this summer and I promise you it is not the person who wears the XXXL-sized shirt. James Stewart 12 Posted 04/02/2018 at 01:19:59 Moronic decision to let him go. Anthony Murphy 13 Posted 04/02/2018 at 01:23:52 I hope I'm wrong, but reckon this kid might want out in the summer... who can blame him? Kenny Smith 14 Posted 04/02/2018 at 01:27:23 I'd never even heard ademola speak till I saw his press conference at Leipzig. Home sick is he, well he opted for Germany rather than not play under Allardyce? Our club is in a mess, we've been there before but mainly for financial reasons. This time it's because we're rudderless from top to bottom. I don't know where we go from here and that's what really worries me Nicholas Ryan 15 Posted 04/02/2018 at 02:25:18 Apparently, Sam said that Lookman was inconsistent; as opposed to Bolasie, who is totally consistent... ie, consistently awful! Jay Woods[LAT] 16 Posted 04/02/2018 at 07:36:33 His goal is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIka3BFhZiQIn a very brief post-match interview he says the important thing for him was to play.He looked more lively in his Leipzig cameo than Bolasie has at any point since his return. Christopher Marston 17 Posted 04/02/2018 at 07:56:32 This club is rotten to the core. Steve Brown 18 Posted 04/02/2018 at 07:59:46 Super goal as well, inconsistently taking on three defenders and slotting it in the far corner. Jamie Evans 19 Posted 04/02/2018 at 08:32:46 Of course he did. You couldn't make this up.To think that some of our fans wanted Sam Allardyce.... Strange days have found us. Strange days have tracked us down. Jim Bennings 20 Posted 04/02/2018 at 08:34:07 If I was Lookman I would not be rushing back to Everton in May either.The mess this club is in, it's going to get a lot worse than it is better. Liam Reilly 21 Posted 04/02/2018 at 08:44:07 Can't see him wanting to come back with Allardyce in charge.I'm not saying this kid is the answer but Allardyce is repeatedly saying that his players' performances have been unacceptable yet he continues to pick the same players and ignore the others. Jerome Shields 22 Posted 04/02/2018 at 08:59:52 Lookman has made the right decision and will never return to Everton. Allardyce's management of this player is where the sole fault lies. On the performance against Arsenal, it appears that there are other players who are being totally mismanaged by Allardyce before they even get on the pitch. Blaming them, as he has done, with his megaphone management, will exasperate the negative response to his management further. Allardyce has now lost the dressing room. Blaming the players has made the situation irretrievable under Allardyce's management. Dave Abrahams 23 Posted 04/02/2018 at 09:07:01 Lookman is let go and, to compound that, Vlasic is also not being used. Bolasie is not fit, plays for himself when he is. Lennon, a grafter and team player, is let go and helped his team to a draw versus Man City. Schneiderlin is a constant pick while being consistently poor. Multiple changes every game... Sam has proved to be a poor choice at ٤M a year, whether he keeps us up is still very much in the balance, so like Martinez and Koeman he will be laughing all the way to the bank.Incidentally will we still be liable to pay Koeman the full payment on his dismissal now he has become the Dutch manager? Kevin Day 24 Posted 04/02/2018 at 11:08:59 I think we should be seriously looking for other manager options as soon as we get to 40 points, fingers crossed that happens.For me, we should go for Eddie Howe at Bournemouth; Silva has proven to have his head turned too quickly when something better comes along. Jon Withey 25 Posted 04/02/2018 at 13:03:31 Thought SA was the right choice at the time but his ego is getting the better of him right now. Let's just hope we get to the summer in the same league.And please bench Schneiderlin - if you love stats Sam you are missing a pretty obvious one - we lose when he plays. Jack Convery 26 Posted 04/02/2018 at 13:04:04 Ademola Lookman's match-winning RB Leipzig debut completely exposes Everton's crippling short-termismThe Independant article makes good reading. Are you listening Moshiri. Fraser Auld 27 Posted 04/02/2018 at 13:42:53 Jack, you beat me to it! I was just going to post a link to that article sums the situation up perfectly!! David Chait 28 Posted 04/02/2018 at 14:55:38 It's hard to believe those comments are true! I thought his post match vent showed no sign of an introspective manager who can take responsibility for anything. There has to be issues with Lookman and I don't mean that those are Lookman's fault just that there must be issues... surely any good manager would use it as an opportunity to build up his players' confidence and allow them the moment... unless he literally doesn't like the kid. I wonder if his "stubbornness" has angered Allardyce so much! Shows we are living with another control freak at the helm! I didn't Iike Allardyce before he came and can't see myself wanting to keep looking at his face next season at all! Ajay Gopal 29 Posted 04/02/2018 at 14:59:26 An Evertonian and an RS playing in the same team, could it get any stranger? And the boy in Blue hits the winner and the £50 million Red misses a sitter! The only bright spot in a disastrous weekend. Len Hawkins 30 Posted 04/02/2018 at 18:09:33 I've just read the article in The Independent and I now want Allardyce gone. For him to come out with garbage like that shows me he is only here for the money and Everton's future does not concern him one little bit. For Christ's sake, let's get in the record books and sack yet another mercenary. Geoff Evans 31 Posted 04/02/2018 at 18:41:20 Of course he did, he's a good player with great potential. My advice to him would be to get away from this shit club quick before it's too late. That goes for Coleman, Pickford and Davies.The rest should get together with the manager, backroom staff and Kenwright and fuck off. The last one should turn out the lights. James Flynn 32 Posted 04/02/2018 at 20:00:17 That he, apparently, forced the loan to Red Bull says a lot about Lookman. Good for him and best of luck. Scored a goal his first game for Everton, too. Against Pep's Man City at that. We'll see how it plays out. But he's practically being deified in here. He's not that good yet, if ever. Barkley, at the same age, was streets beyond this kid. Drenthe, party-hardy drunkard, was streets beyond young Lookman.Sam gets it in the neck for his many failings; deservedly. Lookman's not playing isn't one of them.He'll come good or he won't. I say he won't. A guy as small as him needs lightning quickness and pace. All while maintaining complete control of the ball. Ademola possesses none of those. Fair pace and quickness? Not bad, not bad. Ball control? Haha.Let's beat Allardyce with the many sticks he's handed us.A kid, who I say will never make it the Premier League, going out on loan is no stick at all. David Barks 33 Posted 04/02/2018 at 20:58:53 Okay, James Flynn. I mean, ignore him getting a rare few minutes against Liverpool which he used to get the ball, control it with ease and immediately turn up field, cut inside past his man with some pace and his head up, so he could lay it off for a man in space setting up our only goal. And ignore him coming on yesterday to get the ball, cut inside and past his man with a good touch and pace, setting himself up for a nice goal from outside the box. He's just turned 20. Nah, no Premier League future. You're right. Now Bolasie, that's a Premier League talent right there! Ian Bennett 34 Posted 04/02/2018 at 21:05:12 Hope his loan is a success, because next season we will need him. It looks like Bolasie needs a big pre season. Big concern he's lost that pace and explosiveness. Wrong winger loaned out? Looks like to me... Oliver Molloy 35 Posted 04/02/2018 at 21:39:30 One goal on his debut doesn't guarantee Lookman is a genius as we already know. These kids have to really impress in training to stand out and if they get the chance in the first team they have to impress even more. Attitude is everything and young Lookman is rumoured to be a bit of a sulker.He should have a chat with Niasse. He apparently didn't want to play in the Championship as it was a step down; if true he's a lot to learn in my opinion.I hope this loan move goes well for him, but for me he has a lot to do before anyone can say he should be starting in the Premier League. He will have a new manager to impress at Everton come the start of the new season of that I'm convinced. James Flynn 36 Posted 04/02/2018 at 21:44:33 David (33) - The Bolasie rabbit-hole is yours. I'll leave it to you.So, one good move against the RS. You're projecting that across the entirety of a Prem career? Reminds me of the occasional calls for Browning based on the same thing.Lookman is tiny. Smaller than Pienaar. Minus Steven's intelligence, foot quickness, and ball skill.I hope his loan-out goes well for him and us. He'll prove me wrong more than you right.So, I'll say again just for you. Allardyce has layed out an agenda of wrongs to slam himself with. Let's have at it. Lookman not playing doesn't make that list.Also just for you. I say Ademola doesn't have the pace, quickness or skill to make anything of himself at Everton or any other Prem club.He'd do well over here in MLS, though. At MY Red Bull. Just not in the Prem. Not at Everton. He's not good enough. Joe O'Brien 37 Posted 05/02/2018 at 01:41:12 James, you'll be eating those words, I reckon. Geoff Evans 38 Posted 05/02/2018 at 08:53:54 James: since when have you had to be a genius to play for a team as shite as this. Michael Lynch 39 Posted 05/02/2018 at 09:11:22 I remember seeing Bolasie play at the same age that Lookman is now, and he was miles ahead in my opinion. Lookman might turn out to be a world-beater, but I'd say the odds are against it at the moment. Hopefully he'll come back next season, probably under a different manager, and play his way into the side with great performances both on the pitch and at Finch Farm. In the meantime, best of luck to him, but he's not the answer to our current woes. Robert Leigh 40 Posted 05/02/2018 at 09:33:17 James Flynn I can't believe your negativity towards such a young player.Of course you will be correct in 90% of circumstances, but he is our player and whenever he has played he has got bums off seats; something many of our players don't tend to do often!Bolasie when fully fit is a starter, as is Walcott (who seems to be hungry and at the moment seems a very shrewd signing) but after those two our winger options are limited. We have another young player in Vlasic, then it's Dominic Calvert-Lewin shoved out on the wing.I would have just liked to have seen Lookman stay as an option, maybe starting towards the end of the season when Theo/Yannick need the first hour off. Martin Nicholls 41 Posted 05/02/2018 at 17:17:16 James Flynn (#36) I believe Lookman is 5ft 9ins tall, 2ins taller than Stevie Pienaar! Gordon Crawford 42 Posted 05/02/2018 at 19:09:54 The boy has real talent and could be a special player in a couple years time. I used the word “could†as it depends on his attitude and those who are coaching him. Does he have the right attitude to make it? I don't know. Does he have the right coaches to help his development? Hell no, too many dinosaurs at Everton, and the manager is one of them. We have been a graveyard for talented players for years, don't see it changing anytime soon. But I for one will support him from a distance, rather than condemn him and write his career off. John Daley 43 Posted 05/02/2018 at 19:40:36 Michael @39, How can Bolasie be considered to have been "miles ahead" of Lookman, at the same age, when he was a bit-part Plymouth player who had just returned from a loan spell at League 2 Barnet back then? Even now, since signing for Everton (a move Lookman earned 8 years sooner, despite lagging behind Bolasie like a snail), he hasn't managed to show he is any more consistent or effective than his younger team-mate. Personally, I would take Lookman every day of the week, irrespective of how much money their former clubs managed to fleece out of Steve Walsh. Gordon Crawford 44 Posted 05/02/2018 at 20:12:40 Me too John. But sadly it's all about the money. No one wants to see a 㿀m to 㿊m player warming the bench, when his replacement is some spotty kid. It speaks of bad management and a waste of money. But I wouldn't care, I want to see the best players play for the team. David Currie 45 Posted 05/02/2018 at 21:07:22 Bolasie has been crap since coming back, Lookman has more ability and I would rather have him in our team. Hugh Jenkins 46 Posted 05/02/2018 at 22:48:51 Jon (25), I initially thought the same. Jack (26) Fraser (27) - Luke Brown of the Independant has summed up Everton's predicament in a nutshell. It appears that, in the long term interest of Everton FC, Mr Moshri does need to make two more decisive moves immediately. Jim Hardin 47 Posted 05/02/2018 at 22:55:12 James Flynn,I think that you couldn't be more wrong about Lookman. From his stature to his skills, I believe that you have underestimated the young man. However, if you are right then I will welcome Lookman to FC Cincinnati, my MLS club (fingers crossed for the next slot). Fraser Auld 48 Posted 06/02/2018 at 07:08:34 James Flynn, you're completely missing the point. Whether you or I think he will be the next Maradona or the next John Oster is irrelevant.The problem here and the reason Allardyce is “getting it in the neckâ€, is his handling of the situation.I mean, a young player goes out on loan and scores a goal on his debut, how hard is it to say “That's a good start for the lad, hopefully he continues and will benefit from playing and developing.â€But nooooo, Allardyce chooses to say “i've got 20 million Walcott and 30 million Bolasie, they're more experienced and Lookman would have done nothing cos the team played crap.â€That is an appalling comment from an Everton manager about one our own players. It betrays arrogance, ego and a stubbornness beyond belief. I mean just imagine you are the player and you hear your manager coming out with something like that - are you going to be encouraged? No, no you're not.If you don't think his intransigence and putting his own self interest ahead of the club deserves “getting it in the neckâ€, then I don't know what you do think would warrant it! Jim Lloyd 49 Posted 06/02/2018 at 07:49:01 I think Alladyce was getting to the point of just losing his rag with the reporters. I think it was more to do with exasperation than self interest.As for Ade Lookman. I think he's an extremely skilful young player but from what I've seen of him, I think he is not yet ready to play most of the time in most of the matches we've got left. The choice that Alladyce has made is the best availabnle to him. It might not work out but I think that Bolasie can at least bring with him a lot of premiership experience. I mean tackling back, being aware of other players, doing what the manager and coaches have asked him to do.I don't particularly rate Bolasie and think it was an expensive buy and we could have done much better with the money we paid out. Nevertheless, if it is a choice beteen Bolasie and Lookman, I can understand the management and coaching team, choosing Bolasie.As we are not privvy to the reasons and discussions about who to name as the first team squad for the rest of the season, we are all guessing: and my guess is that Alladyce has gone for premiership experience.My assessment as a supporter watching Lookman and his body language, I think he's very skilful but a bit on the same lines as Ross Barkley. He can often lose the ball by trying to take on more men than is either necessary or productive. He is very slow to chase back once/if he loses the balI. I also think he's got an attitude, from his body language I see but again, that's just my opinion. From what I remember Sam saying, of course he could be lying, that Lookman forced the loan to the german club. Well, whether he did or not, I can understand the reasoning for keeping Bolasie as first choice for the rest of the season. Foegive me if I'm wrong but haven't we got Nikola Vlasic who can play on either wing, in the first team squad.I've looked at our squad, well we all have (daft statement) but what I mean is that I think we have one, if not the, poorest teams in the division and we are still not safe from relegation. I think that what Alladyce is doing is playing his best (best of a bad bunch) team available to him, to try and give us the best chance of beating teams that we have a decent chance of beating. It's not pretty, it is about fighting for survival, until we are safe.I think that is why Alladyce has chosen the players who have been there and done that (or not done it in some cases!) Fraser Auld 50 Posted 06/02/2018 at 08:38:52 Jim, I agree with that. He was clearly angry at getting smashed 5-1 and the question was just kicking him while he was down. Doesn't excuse the way he answered it though.He'd just given a previous press conference where he questioned lookman's decision to move to Germany, don't forget. Scoring on his debut made BS look a bit of a tit but instead of being the bigger man and responding diplomatically, he responded like a spiteful child.In terms of Lookman, he's promising and could have had more time of the bench as an impact sub this season but if he wants to go out on loan to get more game time, fair enough. Question is, with a manager making comments like that, would you want to come back? Frank Bortoli 51 Posted 06/02/2018 at 12:58:39 Lets hope he doesn't leg it when we need him back at the end of the season. It must be very frustrating when you see the same under performing players always picked ahead of you. I wouldn't be surprised if he forces a move on his return, hopefully we will have a new manager who will appreciate him. Paul Birmingham 52 Posted 08/02/2018 at 08:51:53 Lookman showed more skill in that game than the first team combined in the Arsenal game.Let's see how he fares the duration of his loan. It's staggering how this has happened. Good look to Mola. Michael Lynch 53 Posted 20/02/2018 at 16:03:51 Supposedly worst player on the pitch last night for Leipzig. Zero dribbles, substituted after 70-odd minutes. Hopefully he'll get some more game time over the rest of the season, it would be a shame if he sat on the bench from now til May. He should have gone to Derby in my opinion, but we shall see. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. About these ads