Everton kick off pre-season with a goalfest!

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ATV Irdning 0 - 22 Everton
Everton blew away local team ATV Irdning with a festival of goals in a pre-season practice game to end their training camp in Austria.

Marco Silva began his reign as the Blues' new boss by overseeing a club record result for an organised fixture, easily beating the 14-0 scoreline against New Ferry in the Liverpool Senior Cup back in 1885, 133 years ago.

Kevin Mirallas scored five times, Cenk Tosun and Oumar Niasse each bagged four while there was a hat-trick for Ademola Lookman.

ATV kicked off in the beautiful mountain setting but Everton soon picked up the ball and knocked it around with some confidence. Close pacey passing with little time standing on the ball or passing it sideways

Dowell got through nicely in the left channel and played in a lovely low cross that Baines converted from close range for the first goal.

Lookman tried to burst forward but was cut down and needed treatment for his knee as Kieran Dowell took the free-kick to the far post and it bobbled around until Holgate fought with Tosun to bang it home for the second Everton goal inside 10 minutes.

Another bright attack saw Baines lash in a fierce shot from outside the area that was well saved for a corner.

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The third goal came from a corner, powered home by Keane but it was called back for a foul. From the next corner, Keane repeated his party-trick off Dowell's corner, and this one counted.

A poor defensive mistake allowed Cenk Tosun to join the defenders on the scoresheet, making it 4-0 before the quarter-hour.

A fierce shot by Lookman was parried and returned ii for Tosun to slot home from close range for number 5. Lookman then shot away from the keeper and scored the 6th with a fine finish.

Tosun broke well but his hat-trick goal was offside. More nice football on the ground saw Baines cross in for Dowell this time but the midfielder screwed his shot wide of the post, as the Blues suffered something of a lull in the goalfest.

Dowell fired on target, denied by a good save, and the corner was headed over. ATV attacking after an early substitution, defended back to Stek and Everton went up to score through some determination thanks to Lookman.

Tosun got the ball behind the ATV defence and fired home confidently for his hat-trick just after the half-hour.

Sandro and Tosun looked to have got behind the defence for another easy goal but it was ruled offside. Lookman fired in his third at the far post off a nice low cross from Tosun.

Davies fired wide, his care of the ball still suspect through a number of poor touches. Baines was looking strong down the left but his hard low cross was defended away.

Tosun got one-on-one with ATV keeper Gabrielle and tried to chip him but then dribbled around after the ball was parried back to him, slotting in Everton's 10th goal before the whistle for half-time.

Wholesale changes for the second half, all except Dowell being subbed out. Miralls was first to score after Niasse rounded the keeper. The ball was played straight to him out of defence for Mirallas to score his second. Mirallas then curled in his third from a free-kick. Mirallas jinked through to fire in his 4th and Everton's 14th before the hour mark.

A great save denied Niasse. Another save denied Connoly's header from a corner. Williams went down after a poor tackle he made from behind, his ankle getting damage, as Martina replace Dowell.

Mirallas missed his chance for a fifth goal, shooting wide. ATV mounted a rare attack, firing wide.

A neat move involving Besic and Vlasic saw Niasse place a nice shot for his first and Everton's 15th goal of the afternoon. Vlasic slammed in Number 16.

Some very neat work from Niasse saw him get around the keeper for a tap-in. Mirallas got his 5th off a parry from the keeper, who could not hold Niasse's shot. Sebastian Schmidt then managed to chip his own keeper with a brilliant shot for the 19th Everton goal.

Niasse thought he had number 20 but it was offside. Robinson crossed beautifully for Niasse but he headed it wide. Vlasic walked in the 20th off what looked like an offside position.

Number 21 was a bit farcical, Robinson's cross headed goalward by Marina but Niasse was literally on the far post, hugging it, and just edged the ball in off his hip!

Good build-up play laid Number 22 on a plate for Niasse who slotted home the final goal of a fine training runout for Everton under new manager, Marco Silva.

Scorers: Baines (4'), Holgate (9'), Keane (11'), Tosun (13, 16', 33', 46'), Lookman (18', 28', 39'), Mirallas (48', 50', 52', 59', 80'), Niasse (70', 75', 87', 89'), Vlasic (73', 86'), Schmidt (og:81')

Everton (First Half): Stekelenburg; Coleman, Holgate, Keane, Baines; Schneiderlin, Davies, Dowell; Sandro, Lookman, Tosun.

Everton (Second Half): Hewelt; Kenny, Williams, Jagielka, Robinson; Connolly, Besic, Dowell (64' Martina); Vlasic, Mirallas, Niasse.

Sub not Used: Pennington.


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Jay Harris
1 Posted 14/07/2018 at 16:03:14
Is kick-off delayed or is the streaming playing up as usual?
Steve Ferns
2 Posted 14/07/2018 at 16:09:08
Game is under way for me.
Eugene Kearney
3 Posted 14/07/2018 at 16:37:48
Anyone got a link to watch?
Clarence Yurcan
4 Posted 14/07/2018 at 16:37:56
Clearly based on this performance no new signings are needed... obviously gonna win the league!
Kieran Kinsella
5 Posted 14/07/2018 at 16:50:48
Imagine if this was a Moyes era game

Match report: Austrian Ironing Board 0 - 1 Everton.

David Moyes said he was "pleased with a clean sheet" after a battling performance against the Austrian amateurs. A defensive-looking line-up featuring 7 centre-backs struggled to open up their Alpine opponents. Yobo went close with a header from an outswinging Hibbert corner after 5 minutes but it hit Ulf The Yodeler on the arse and bounced harmlessly away for a throw-in.

Late in the second half, Everton sub Li Tie rattled the crossbar before Baines converted a penalty after Heinrich was harshly judged to have fouled Anichebe when it appeared the striker slipped on a banana skin the goalkeeper let drop from his lunch box.

Having sold the whole squad just three weeks ago, Moyes tempered expectations of major incomings by saying "we may bring in one or two on the loan market" before the window shuts.

Brian Williams
6 Posted 14/07/2018 at 16:54:39
10-0 at half-time.

Just hope we don't sit back in the second half and hope to scrape a 10-0 win.

Colin Glassar
7 Posted 14/07/2018 at 16:56:11
Can’t wait for Ossie and Hibbo to get back. There’ll be no stopping us!
Hugh Jenkins
8 Posted 14/07/2018 at 17:09:22
With the possible exceptions of Pickford Sigurdsson and Gueye, this looks pretty much like the starting lineup many have been predicting for the start of the season.

Couple of notable absentees from the bench are Walcott and Bolasie - are they injured?

Kieran Kinsella
9 Posted 14/07/2018 at 17:10:49

Baningime too. Is Danny Williamson still in the squad?

Dave Abrahams
10 Posted 14/07/2018 at 17:14:27
Kieran (#9), the good news is Danny Williamson had had the plaster taken off and is now walking again. More good news is Everton have just made the last payment due to him.
Hugh Jenkins
11 Posted 14/07/2018 at 17:16:18
Kieran (#9)


How could I have missed Beni?

In my view, he is highly promising and should be pressing for regular first team football this coming season.

Danny Williamson – not too sure about.

Tony Everan
12 Posted 14/07/2018 at 17:17:54
Is that volcano behind them about to erupt?

Brands trying a different tactic in getting rid of the deadwood.

Kieran Kinsella
13 Posted 14/07/2018 at 17:18:08

Nice. Hopefully we can get Bilic fit too.

Micky Norman
14 Posted 14/07/2018 at 17:19:28
This KITAP13 football is dull. Need to defend as a team now or they'll get back in it
Amit Vithlani
15 Posted 14/07/2018 at 17:25:56
When was the last time we won a pre-season game 14-0?

I remember some hilarious pre-season scorelines from the 80s, can't remember a 14-0 mind you.

Colin Glassar
16 Posted 14/07/2018 at 17:46:20
I think this season is going to be a doddle after this.
Clive Rogers
17 Posted 14/07/2018 at 17:47:35
Kendall never really wanted Danny Williamson, he just wanted to get shut of Unsworth. There was something between them, don’t know what.
Alan J Thompson
18 Posted 14/07/2018 at 17:49:28
And which of our keepers looked most likely to make the bench?
Kieran Kinsella
19 Posted 14/07/2018 at 17:50:27

Maybe Unsworth was sneaking Howard's liquor.

Gary Mortimer
20 Posted 14/07/2018 at 17:50:34
The Premier League is ours! This new manager is the best ever!
Alan J Thompson
21 Posted 14/07/2018 at 17:52:07
Do my eyes deceive me or is there a bloke named Klaassen playing in the Men's Doubles Final at Wimbledon?
Kieran Kinsella
22 Posted 14/07/2018 at 17:58:35
Klaasen! That dued. Forgot about him. Where was he today?
Steve Ferns
23 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:00:22
Sat on the spectators bench. He was flashed up a couple of times
Leigh Grainger
24 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:01:40
So how on earth did Sandro not score?
Kieran Kinsella
25 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:07:28
Klaasen probably isn't tough enough for this level of opponent yet. Three more years in the gym and he might get a look in.
Steve Ferns
26 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:08:40
Sandro should have done a Niasse and scored with his "groin"
Jay Wood

27 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:11:19
So...who scored the tries and who landed the conversions?
Steve Ferns
28 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:12:44
The Echo says that's the biggest we've ever had, beating 14-0 win over New Ferry in 1885.
Neil Copeland
29 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:13:00
Steve, size does matter, then.
Gerry Quinn
30 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:16:35
Jay - tries/conversions!

Absolutely brilliant comment...had me in total stitches...

Alan J Thompson
31 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:20:07
Neil (#29); particularly if you've been flashed up in the stands a few times (#23)
Bill Griffiths
32 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:23:02
Echo says Bolasie, Klassen & Walcott all injured.
Steve Ferns
33 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:26:05
Figured Walcott was, I haven't seen anything of Bolasie in Austria. Klaassen has been playing, so must have a knock. What about Calvert-Lewin?
Steve Ferns
34 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:27:04
Alan just saw that, that made me laugh
Michael Lynch
35 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:29:16
Did anyone actually watch any of this? If so, did they learn anything from it about how we might set up this season, or was it just a meaningless kickabout offering no clues?
Jay Wood

36 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:32:53
Dominic Calvert-Lewin still troubled by a back injury, Steve.

Scroll down to the bottom of the club site report on the game with a paragraph on those who were missing and why:


Jeff Armstrong
37 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:34:35
Fancy not giving Pennington a run out — only one left on bench!
Derek Knox
38 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:35:48
Michael, @35, given that the opposition was several tiers below, there were signs of some good touches and finishes from many of the squad.

So it should have been a good work out, but stiffer opposition will tell a lot more.

Brian Harrison
39 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:36:42
Eat your heart out, all those who doubted Marco Silva! Absolutely fabulous attacking display, and obviously the work he has put in on the back 4 worked having not conceded a goal.

They had some talented lads – one lad in particular can carry two trays laden with food, and the rest are all silver service trained. Not easy going away in Europe, I know we are always a bit skeptical but I think the second leg is a walk in the park.

I bet this result has shaken a few Premier League managers, they will be thinking we will really need to park the bus when we play Everton.

To be fair ATV Irdning did park the bus, sadly they parked it on the wrong pitch. I would just add a note of caution and appeal to our fans not to get carried away with this result, as there are still questions to be asked... like: Who the hell arranged this match?

William Gall
40 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:46:18
You have to play against whoever the club arrange for you to play against. This may have been an easy game but still the players showed a professional attitude and kept the pressure on that will hopefully play out during the season and not sit back.
Pat Kelly
41 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:50:17
You have to hand it to Diane Abbot for predicting the score.
Brian Williams
42 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:51:56
I watched it all and to be honest it didn't reveal too much and I don't think it was played with that intention either. Just a case of putting into practice what they've been doing in training.

Niasse still looks like an anti-footballer, Mirallas still looks like it's all about him (the free-kick "discussion" with Dowell) and Williams still dives in for tackles which are always going to be penalised.

Lookman looked good but still lost possession frequently and Stekelenburg lay down and had a 45-minute kip in the first half.

Nick Wall
43 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:54:28
Unfortunately, we just used up 35% of our goals for the season!
Jack Plant
44 Posted 14/07/2018 at 18:56:58
To be fair, yes, they were shit, but if we still had amateur players, we would have ground out a 1-0 win.
Mike Gaynes
45 Posted 14/07/2018 at 19:07:02
22 is a little excessive.

On the other hand, Mirallas's transfer value just went up about $100.

Darren Murphy
46 Posted 14/07/2018 at 19:07:10
Could of least won convincingly... Amateurs ;)
Henrik Lyngsie
47 Posted 14/07/2018 at 19:07:22
Clean sheet from Stekelenburg... while the other guy, Pickford, let two in — both today and on Wednesday.
Mike Powell
49 Posted 14/07/2018 at 19:25:50
If big Sam was at the helm, we would've got a hard -fought draw and he would've taken the strikers off for more defenders and told us it was the team's fault and not his tactics.
Colin Glassar
50 Posted 14/07/2018 at 19:31:22
22-0? Is that all? They should be ashamed of themselves
Steve Ferns
52 Posted 14/07/2018 at 19:49:14
Drew Shortis
53 Posted 14/07/2018 at 20:05:59
I must admit I got a little excited until I checked Twitter & saw the state of the opposition. One clip was a worldie of an own goal and another clip where the keeper just turns his back on Mirallas and walks off!!! I know it was just a warmup runabout but surely we could have found a slightly better match. Like Mike Tyson beating up Ralf Wigham.
Steve Ferns
54 Posted 14/07/2018 at 20:07:57
If you forget who that #8 is, and watch what he does, then he looks some player. Except where he shows his ego a couple of times. I thought it was Everton career over when he forced the Olympiacos move, and I thought it was career over when he bombed over there and came back early. But could it be, just possibly, that he really has pulled his finger out, and the mercurial Kevin Mirallas has one decent season left in him (at least) for Everton. He's only 30.

And like Baines showed today, he's at the peak of his physical powers, so perhaps (for both of them) talk of their demise is premature. I'll happily hold my hand up on Baines and say I appear to have been way off in doubting him physically. Perhaps he's just been carrying an injury, and now he's had a proper break, he's refilled the tank, and he's ready to go again.

Drew, it appears to have been a successful 7/8 days in Austria getting used to Marco Silva's ways. This game was only ever meant to be a tune-up. Liverpool played 5th tier opposition in their game, so why not. We play Bury on Wednesday, then up another couple of levels with the Lille and Porto games back to back, and then down a notch for Blackburn, and then the Valencia match at Goodison. That's not a bad run of game for me.

Contrast to last year: narrow win against the Africans, beat Twente, drew with Genk, and then drew with Seville (being outplayed). Sure, we had the Europa League so less fixtures, but these seem better planned on the right upwards trajectory.

Pat Kelly
55 Posted 14/07/2018 at 20:20:30
The worrying thing is we'll probably sign a few of their players.
Peter Gorman
56 Posted 14/07/2018 at 20:31:18
The only thing more amateur than the Austrians was the idea of arranging a match against them.

Utterly ludicrous stuff - but if I saw a positive it is that the returning loanees like Lookman and Dowell don't look out of place among the rest of our lot.

Dave Williams
59 Posted 14/07/2018 at 20:42:27
It was a run around against a pub team to round off a week of intensive training and to score 22 goals in 90 minutes takes some doing, whoever the opposition is.

The starting team looked balanced and, with Sigurdsson and Walcott at least to come back in, the best team on paper looks strong provided the tactics and style are spot on. A long way to go but let's enjoy the bit of fun that such a scoreline warrants.

If Silva can get some of last season's failures to rediscover their mojo and ability, he will save us a fortune.

James Flynn
61 Posted 14/07/2018 at 20:49:31
Over here, in basketball and American football, today's game is referred to as a scrimmage.

Coaches have been at them for a week. Had to line up someone in different jersies to practice against. So it was these poor fellows.

Fun scoreline though.

Baines is not at his physical peak, for goodness sake. And the only reason to play Mirallas a lot in the preseason is in hope a Prem bottom-feeder will take the bait.

Peter Gorman
63 Posted 14/07/2018 at 20:57:27
I feel as much about the result as it tells us about the coming season – absolutely nothing.
Colin Glassar
64 Posted 14/07/2018 at 20:59:09
The scenery looked nice. I wonder if they sang, The hills are alive with the sound of music?
Steuart Hayes
72 Posted 14/07/2018 at 21:14:19
Gary, was great to score 22 goals but I've seen the highlights, they looked worse than my Sunday team. Both of you have points; we are all Everton supporters. Let's see how the next 3 weeks turn out, then on to the proper stuff. Let's support the team together.
Gary Willock
74 Posted 14/07/2018 at 21:18:40
Fair enough Steu - we've got Lille, Porto and others over next few weeks. I watched the whole game, and felt we were slick, fit and inventive. The opposition where awful, but it's the first game back and I see no sense in bitching before we even get going.
Jay Harris
76 Posted 14/07/2018 at 21:21:25
In general, I know the opposition was poor, to put it mildly, but it was nice to see the team looking for forward passes instead of this backwards sideways shit. Also good to see the hunger for goals and some players intent on playing for their places.

Standouts for me Kevin Mirallas, Bainsey, Tosun (excellent finishing), Lookman (the boy's got skill pace and workrate), Schneiderlin (shock, horror).

Davies, Niasse and Sandro didn't put themselves about and seemed to lack enthusiasm.

Robinson, Dowell and Connolly didn't do their reputations any harm.

Looking forward to seeing if we can play as well against sterner opposition.

James Flynn
79 Posted 14/07/2018 at 21:37:49
While watching the highlights, it occurred to me that this game would have put Andres Cantor out for the season. By the end of the game, he'd been coughing up toenails.

Steuart Hayes
80 Posted 14/07/2018 at 21:39:54
I see what you are saying, Gary. I only watched the highlights, some good movement and link-up play which is good and is a warm-up game after training for the week, so great for players to score a few and get confidence. I hope we carry this through to the next games; obviously things will get harder but, as you say, you don't play Barca in this game. N

ew manager etc. I think we have the makings of a great side, if we get a few crucial players in. I think Steve Ferns has convinced me Silva is the way to go. The only bit I don't like is when we approached Watford and how they fell apart but I'm hoping that was not Silva somehow. Either way, I like his style and man-management skills and attacking flair.

Michael Kenrick
81 Posted 14/07/2018 at 21:43:10
And the assists came from:

5’: Baines [Dowell]
8’: Holgate [Dowell]
13’: Keane [Dowell]
14’: Tosun [(Defender, under pressure from Davies]
16’: Tosun [Sandro]
18’: Lookman [Davies]
29’: Lookman [Coleman]
33’: Tosun [Lookman]
36’: Lookman [Tosun]
45’: Tosun [Lookman]
48’: Mirallas [Niasse]
50’: Mirallas [(Gabrielle)]
52’: Mirallas [Dowell (fouled for free-kick)]
59’: Mirallas [Vlasic]
70’: Niasse [Vlasic]
73’: Vlasic [Mirallas]
75’: Niasse [Vlasic]
80’: Mirallas [Niasse (shot parried)]
81’: Schmidt (og) [(Defender)]
85’: Vlasic [Martina]
86’: Niasse [Martina]
89’: Niasse [Martina]

Michael Kenrick
83 Posted 14/07/2018 at 22:04:24
And a note on shirt number changes (if these mean anything):

Dowell wore 12 rather than 28; has he moved up in the world by claiming the number last worn by Aaron Lennon?

Mirallas wore 8 (last worn by Ross Barkley) rather than 11, which was given to Walcott when he joined in January, just as Mirallas was leaving on loan.

Connolly (returning from his season-long loan) gets back his 33 shirt number that Robles wore in his final season after Pickford bumped him from Number 1.

Pennington gets back his 38 shirt that Matty Foulds wore last season, for a handful of games in the Chekatrade Trophy [Statto Sidenote: because these Under-23 games are against senior professional Football League sides, they are considered to be 'full' appearances for the Everton players.]

I think this means that Foulds regains his 51 shirt (as listed at EFC) from previous seasons. Last season, Anthony Evans wore 51...

All the rest on show were the same as last season.

Dave Older
84 Posted 14/07/2018 at 22:11:54
We didn't even score 25?? That is an awful result. Silva has to go!

In all seriousness... 22 nil???? Holy Cuco Martina... that is unbelievable, no matter who the opposition was...

Shine up that Premier League trophy!!! It's coming home!! Now where have I heard that before??? NSNO

Tony Everan
85 Posted 14/07/2018 at 22:29:23
Wolves will be happy to keep us to single figures come August. 😮 They would take 9-0 now and have it done with.
Darryl Ritchie
86 Posted 14/07/2018 at 23:02:29
It's a shame we can't carry the goal difference through to the regular season.
Phil Bellis
87 Posted 14/07/2018 at 23:16:44
Should've gone for it; tarts
Derek Knox
88 Posted 14/07/2018 at 23:16:57
Tony, @85, but what about the second half?

Or, are we getting carried away a bit?

Ernie Baywood
89 Posted 14/07/2018 at 23:22:23
Woke up to this result. Watching the highlights, I can't make any real sense of it. Looks like they were so poor that scoring 22 feels like it was a bit of a laugh, and we took it seriously and missed the joke.

Did they charge for the stream?

Hugh Jenkins
90 Posted 14/07/2018 at 23:30:58
As ever, pre-season is about fitness and melding a team together from the component parts.

Great to beat a local amateur team 21 - 0 (plus an own goal). etc.

By the same token, I don't care if we lose our next set of friendlies 0 - 4 each – right up to the first league game in August; then it counts.

If that excessive win – followed by a number of "heavy" losses – results in us winning our first five games 1-0, I will see that as marked progress.

At the moment it is all "training", "meet and greet" and "getting to know you", for both the coach and the playing staff.

Come mid August – when the chips are down – that is when I will be making my judgements.

Neil Copeland
91 Posted 14/07/2018 at 23:49:12
Dave (#84), we did sort of as there were 3 (or was it 4) goals disallowed!
Kieran Kinsella
92 Posted 14/07/2018 at 23:57:16
Everton just called to challenge my daughter, my dog and I to a game as they are looking for a tougher challenge after today.
Mike Galley
93 Posted 14/07/2018 at 00:02:32
Watched a bit of this in The Falcon in Kirkby, and if I'm honest I had to check that we weren't playing The Falcon in Kirkby!

Highlight of the day was the RS trying to make out that we were trying to make out that this game meant something. I think that the stick they've had over the years about jumping the gun (It's our year!!!!) is starting to tell!

Steve Ferns
94 Posted 15/07/2018 at 00:09:50
I saw the Flag for the Flacon, Mike.
Peter Thistle
96 Posted 15/07/2018 at 00:20:52
Makes me feel less bad about losing a Sunday League game 21-0 in our first game of the season when I was 17. Ah... the memories!
Mike Galley
98 Posted 15/07/2018 at 00:33:52
They go absolutely everywhere Steve. Great gang of lads. Been on a lot of away game trips with them. They usually have a flag at the front of the Park End as well.
Jamie Crowley
99 Posted 15/07/2018 at 00:36:36
I just watched the highlights.

I honestly believe I'm a better keeper than that Austrian fella.

Definitely a scrimmage James Flynn. Definitely.

Bob Parrington
100 Posted 15/07/2018 at 00:38:04
Can't see any point in playing such weak opposition, frankly.
Michael Kenrick
101 Posted 15/07/2018 at 01:07:42
Bob, do you seriously not understand the purpose of playing a game like this?

First week or so back for the players, under a new manager, given a host of new instructions, stale from playing bibs vs non-bibs. This is a first chance (of many... a progression if you like) to see what they've learnt, how they can implement the manager's requirements. And compete for places in the side that are up for grabs.

Of course the opposition were poor — it's the first game of pre-season, for fucks sake!!! Why on earth you would you want to come out of the stocks playing the Barcelona A team???

So many totally idiotic comments. Do you seriously have so little appreciation for what the club needs to be doing at this stage?

Lenny Kingman
102 Posted 15/07/2018 at 01:16:51
This farce is making Everton the laughing stock of football.
John Pickles
103 Posted 15/07/2018 at 01:18:54
I think we need to keep some perspective here, the 17th was definitely offside.
Pete Clarke
104 Posted 15/07/2018 at 01:34:59
I wonder how we will go in the return challenge of a slalom race on the Alps?
Vin Genova
105 Posted 15/07/2018 at 01:42:16
I think I'm going to try out for ATV! I'm 30 pounds overweight and never played, but I think I can get a game or two in.

Oh well. Fun warm up for Everton in a beautiful setting, hopefully they got some good training in during the week. I'm sure some bonding is going on and they saw the ball go in the net for confidence.

Mike Gaynes
106 Posted 15/07/2018 at 01:44:51
Steve, thanks for the link... and Michael, thanks for the summaries.
Vin Genova
107 Posted 15/07/2018 at 02:18:06
Have to feel pretty good about coming back to Goodison for the return leg with a 22 goal cushion.

Bring back Big Sam to play 5 at the back with 2 defensive mids and hopefully that will be enough to see us through.

Peter Gorman
108 Posted 15/07/2018 at 02:28:51
"Of the course the opposition were poor — it's the first game of pre-season, for fucks sake!!!. Why on earth you would you want to come out of the stocks playing the Barcelona A team???"

So there is no happy medium then, Michael? There are no teams on the football pyramid between Barcelona A and ATV Irdning?

You're the second person to suggest that we 'total idiots', in pointing out how poor the opposition were, are somehow calling for the best in Europe. You are not in great company.

You saw fit to delete the other comments, perhaps you should delete yours.

Nicholas Ryan
109 Posted 15/07/2018 at 02:35:12
Michael Kenrick [101] Ouch!!

So, we scored 22, we conceded none. The bad points from that are: ...erm ... oh ...well ...erm ?!

Steve Ferns
110 Posted 15/07/2018 at 02:35:45
Peter, we always do this. We go to Austria often, and play some Czech part-timers, or Austrians, one year we went with Austria Vienna and got beat. The difference is we hammered these guys. If it came back as 6-0 or something, no one would be causing a fuss.

The movement and shape was decent. Baines legged it up and down the wing for 45 minutes like he was 21. Lookman jinked and went past a load of players, and Tosun found the net every time he got a shot off. Mirallas showed he could find the net every time he let fly but once, Niasse could have had 7, Dowell showed his passing could be sublime, but was lacking a little consistency at times, but he was prepared to make things happen.

There's so many positives. There's another 5 games yet. League 1 Bury next. Let's smash them and then Algarve on a roll and see how the lads can fare with two games in two days, presumably 30 mins in one, 60 in the other.

Peter Gorman
111 Posted 15/07/2018 at 03:15:19
Nicholas, I can always beat myself at subbuteo - what point are you making?

Steve, I saw some positives (have been seeing plenty positive from the training). I even stated as much in my original comment that Michael decided to delete, as it is his train-set.

The point being made by a few, mostly humorously, is that this opposition was so poor it made no sense to play them. Why not just stick with the cones?

For a specific example, admire the goalkeeper turning his back for the 20th goal, like a kid in the playground. Still I'm sure they put on a good spread.

Steve Ferns
112 Posted 15/07/2018 at 03:19:10
Peter the goalie turned his back because the linesman raised his flag and the keeper argued it was offside.
Peter Gorman
113 Posted 15/07/2018 at 03:21:54
Only an amateur doesn't play to the whistle, Steve ;)
Ernie Baywood
114 Posted 15/07/2018 at 03:24:01
I wouldn't care if we played Barca and got pumped, Michael. At least we'd learn something.

As I understand it, this was the arrangement where we played them in exchange for using their training facilities. Fair enough.

But why badge it as a pre season friendly? There's nothing learned. We learn more kicking about after training than that. This isn't exactly what we need at this stage - if that was the case then everyone would do it.

I'm confident not one PL team will have played such weak opposition this week. And if for some reason they did then no-one will hear about it or watch it. It would be embarrassing for them. Just as it is for us putting it on our website.

Peter Gorman
115 Posted 15/07/2018 at 03:30:44
Well put Ernie, and it seems you are not the only one who thinks so;

Taken from the OS - "David Unsworth says Everton Under-23s’ “fast and fierce” friendly clash with Coventry City in La Manga provided his side with a “real test”.

“We waited a few days longer than we normally would to play a competitive game and against Coventry’s first team it was a real test, which we wanted and expected,” Unsworth told evertontv.

“It was a proper game, not a stereotypical pre-season friendly. It was fast and fierce and will stand the lads in great stead for the start of the season.”

They lost 3-1 by the way but Unsworth saying he reckons it'll stand them in good stead must qualify as a 'totally idiotic comment' according to the new rules TW just made up.

Michael Kenrick
116 Posted 15/07/2018 at 04:09:40
Who said you have to learn something, anything about the upcoming season? It's the end of a week-long training camp. Playing the local opposition — whoever they may be — is perfectly reasonable as a contrast to playing each other in practice matches. It's 'badged' as a pre-season friendly because that's exactly what it was — a pre-season friendly. It matters not one jot what anyone else is doing or what fans of other clubs think. Who gives a shit? We are Everton. This is what we chose to do. I think it was just fine.

The opposition doesn't need to be too testing for the first pre-season friendly... in fact, the less competitive it is, the more of a warm-up run-out game it is, the better. Get out of your head this ridiculous idea that somehow the performance in this game can project anything whatsoever onto any future games we play this season. Why do that? It's utterly ridiculous. One game at a time.

It doesn't mean anything, it doesn't portend anything, it's just a training match against some other footballers who happen to play at the ATV Arena. Accept it for what it is. There's a reason why other people are arranging these games and not you!!!

Nice conflation with the Under-23s, Peter. Unsworth is not a new manager for those players. He probably has his systems in place and is largely understood by the players.

It is stupid and pointless asking for them to play someone other than who was chosen, for whatever specific reasons. It's not within your power to change it and your rationales mean absolutely nothing — Just accept it and move on.

Ernie Baywood
117 Posted 15/07/2018 at 04:52:07
So shut the comments down if it doesn't mean anything. And that game really didn't mean anything in footballing terms. It was worth less than a game of heads and volleys.

But I don't buy into the notion that we don't care what other people think. Erm, don't we employ a large PR staff for that very reason? The club does care about the image it projects. We all do.

You can have a kick about with some locals without announcing it on the fixture list or streaming the game.

As for comments on systems of play for a new manager, that's irrelevant. You don't learn how to play a system by participating in a free for all.

If my Under 11s were scoring at that rate I'd stop the game and do something else with the time.

Michael Kenrick
118 Posted 15/07/2018 at 05:38:27
Why shut the comments down, Ernie? And now you've twisted "didn't learn anything" into "didn't mean anything"! Again, it's a "pre-season friendly" — by definition, they don't mean anything. They are simply part and parcel of the training regime.

I'm sure some people were able to watch the game for what it was and not be consumed by what it wasn't. Some people are actually talking about the game that was played, and not whining like some spoilt kid because we didn't play the opposition you wanted to play. Think about it. How fucking stupid is it to turn up at a match someone else has arranged and say "Why are we playing you lot? I don't want us playing you lot. I want us playing someone else."

The club offer these games up online for fans who are interested. Usually they are boring as hell, but as I was making notes for the website, and I couldn't even keep up, the goals were going in so fast. Personally, I like watching them to see who the manager chooses to play and how they're playing. I don't have to learn anything, It doesn't have to mean anything.

Those who aren't interested don't need to log in or pay for the feed. But if you're not interested, that's fine, simply don't watch. No-one was forcing you to watch — and I see from above that you didn't actually see it. Pity that didn't stop you from coming out with these inane comments.

Alan J Thompson
119 Posted 15/07/2018 at 05:55:15
You can always learn something. If any player had shown disinterest in this then in all likelihood they would probably not be interested against more testing opposition. The major downside is probably having to listen to Kevin Mirallas on the plane home telling everyone that he is the season's leading goalscorer, and Stekelenburg on his first clean sheet.
Phil Greenough
120 Posted 15/07/2018 at 06:10:17
Hindsight is a wonderful thing; I'm sure the powers that be did not envisage that scoreline, when they arranged the match. After all, Irdning play in the fifth tier of Austrian football, would we expect the same result if we had arranged a game against the likes of Chester or Tranmere?

I must admit, although excited at the scoreline at the time; I was a bit embarrassed for Irdning. What could Everton do about it though, deliberately miss on purpose? It's been mentioned that all you can do is play against the team in front of you, unfortunately, Irdning were like rabbits in the headlights.

Tony Everan
121 Posted 15/07/2018 at 08:53:38
It was a work out, nothing more, nothing less.

Local opposition and a bit of a change from playing each other.

A non-competitive game is a good idea first one back, it oils the wheels and breaks the ice before stepping it up.

The pre-season is about stepping up the work incrementally to reach peak fitness at Wolves. Yesterday was just one of the first steps towards that.

It's funny but, if we won 5-0, there would be no dissent at all!

Ian Burns
122 Posted 15/07/2018 at 09:02:39
Brian Williams (#39),

"To be fair ATV Irdning did park the bus, sadly they parked it on the wrong pitch." — Brilliant, I am going to dine out on that one today!!

Ernie Baywood
123 Posted 15/07/2018 at 09:10:08
Oh Michael you do get yourself in a tizz sometimes. My point is very straightforward and valid. You can feel free to disagree but to call my opinion inane reflects more on you than me.

I'm not saying the players shouldn't have played, I'm saying it's embarrassing to call that a pre season friendly.

If it was indeed a pre season friendly then whoever arranged it has just wasted the team and manager's time. Right? It was someone's job to give the team a light workout, start to get them playing together. To me, the selection was clearly a failure.

On the other hand, if it was just a friendly kickabout to say thanks for the loan of the facilities for our pre season camp, then fair enough. But don't embarrass yourself by calling it a pre-season friendly.

There is a difference. On the scale of Bolasie having a kickabout with his kids to a high profile friendly tournament, it was closer to Yannick's back garden than the ICC competition.

Len Hawkins
124 Posted 15/07/2018 at 09:28:01
Peter (#111),

Wiener Schnitzel mitt kartoffel und gemuse, Spotted Dick und Vanillepudding.

Tommy Surgenor
125 Posted 15/07/2018 at 09:33:29
It was really an attack versus defence training game. The match proves we can create chances.

Just a few observations I made and I am sure many will disagree:

I was delighted to see Sandro getting the nod. However, he failed to impress out wide. He didn't seem to know when to hold or when to run.

I think during his best season for Malaga he was shoved out left. So perhaps we should have given him a run on that side. Unfortunately, I think it is too late for him and that we already have four wingers ahead of him.

I'm acutely aware of how much of the minority I am in here when I say, Mirallas should be kept. I don't know what it is about him but I have always remained a fan. I like his no-frills direct approach. I like that, when deployed as an “inside forward”m his first thought is always “How can I get a shot away?” If Silvas plan is to break at pace, then that sort of attitude could be profitable for us and balance out Theo's less selfish attitude.

Last point: I so desperately want Davies to be a success but if he was to play as one of our box-to-box mids then his shooting needs to drastically improve. I love his work rate, effort, stamina etc but my concern is the lack of goals our midfield three contribute. Gana, Schniederlin nor Davies pose any really threat from distance. This allows teams to back off a little as they know we are going to have to try “walk it in”.

Dermot Byrne
126 Posted 15/07/2018 at 09:39:15
Just watched the link. We can have all the smart-arsed comments about how to run a pre-season, what constitutes a friendly or what others think about us. But to watch a team in Blue score 22 goals is just simple fun.

Take it for what it is and enjoy. There will plenty of time and reasons to have serious discussions in the months to come.

Thanks for posting the link. It was like watching 20 new signings!

Dave Williams
127 Posted 15/07/2018 at 10:12:42
This game may not tell us anything about how well we might do this season but it sure as hell shows we are in for a lively time on ToffeeWeb if the arguments on this thread are anything to go by!

This was surely meant as a run out to loosen up after a week of intensive training — nothing more than that. The real friendlies start next week and build up to a potentially difficult home game against Valencia. Porto and Lille will be good tests too but, at the moment, this game was fine — no nasty tackles, no need to push too hard, and nice for players to score a few goals.

If this had been one of the intended tougher games, then yes, it would have been a bit of a waste... but why not just enjoy a laugh and joke, ask the RS if they were pleased with a 0-0 at Bury and have a smile every time the score is mentioned on Sky Sports News.

There's certainly no need to get stroppy with each other here — there's plenty of opportunity coming up for that!

Ernie Baywood
128 Posted 15/07/2018 at 10:17:59
No arguments on this side. Just opinion. Happy to play the ball rather than the man.
Andrew McLean
129 Posted 15/07/2018 at 11:30:00
Only 3 short from the limit for sacking apparently, lol.

Last season a Spanish coach was sacked for his youth team scoring 25.


Peter Gorman
130 Posted 15/07/2018 at 11:47:15
That is an extraordinary story, Andrew.
Matthew Williams
131 Posted 15/07/2018 at 14:14:45
Wins and goals breed confidence, whoever the opposition is and at least the lads seem fitter from the off...

Bring on the next game, I say!!!

John Hammond
132 Posted 15/07/2018 at 14:17:35
Some people losing their minds over a pre-season practice match. I didn't see any suggestion it was billed as a friendly apart from various websites on the net who are just looking for clicks rather than reporting the truth.

The game told us nothing. Whoever played well means nothing. Mirallas scoring 5 doesn't mean we should keep him.

Jay Wood

133 Posted 15/07/2018 at 14:40:45
I can understand the sentiments being expressed at both extremes on the quality of the opposition.

On the one hand, it was a convenient game to play in situ where the team has spent six days in an intense pre-season training camp.

It may well be, as Ernie writes @ 114, that this was the arrangement where we played them in exchange for using their training facilities.

On the other hand, they were clearly nothing more than a local pub team, judging by their girths and overall positioning (there was none!). A complete mis-match.

I don't think that justifies the kind of leap Lenny Kingman makes @ 102 that this somehow translates into "This farce is making Everton the laughing stock of football."

As ever, I'll look for and take positives from the situation.

We were 4-0 up in 14 minutes, 6-0 to the good in 18 minutes, leading 10-0 at half-time. Plenty of time then for whichever XI was on the pitch to recognize how grievously mismatched the opposition was.

It would have been very easy for the players to coast and play at walking pace from 15 minutes onwards. They didn't. There was no mercy and they kept piling on the goals.

The scenario was repeated with (eventually, after Dowell was substituted) a completely different XI in the second half. Again, the players could be forgiven if they strolled through their own 45 minutes of action. Again, they didn't.

In the second 45 minutes it was 4-0 to us in 14 minutes, 7-0 in 30 minutes and five more goals in the last 10 minutes. It surpassed the first half scoreline with a 12-0 return, 22-0 over the 90 minutes.

Can we not read that as a positive? That ALL players wanted to impress the new manager? That ALL were at it for however minutes they were on the park? That the club and we the fans can benefit from this display of ruthlessness and intensity if we can carry it into the serious stuff?

Steuart Hayes
134 Posted 15/07/2018 at 14:51:38
Jay Wood, (#133) – sensible comments and how I look at it; we will play harder teams leading up to the start of the season. This is merely the players learning the style of play, where to make runs, and, as you say, hopefully wanting to impress new management.

Let's just take it for what it was – not look overly positive or negatively towards it. Nothing really matters till the 11th August, win lose or draw.

Brian Wilkinson
136 Posted 15/07/2018 at 20:02:14
For me it’s about getting players back up to speed and the fitness levels, and also following instructions, nothing more, nothing less, so for the life of me, cannot understand the negatives.

What I would worry about more is those who want to keep hold of Sandro, never will he get a better chance of banging a few goals in for his confidence.

Simon Smith
137 Posted 15/07/2018 at 22:17:30
Big win and loads of goals can't do us any harm. Plenty of time for tougher opposition; today is about banging in goals and the feelgood factor.
Tom Bowers
138 Posted 15/07/2018 at 22:51:28
Was there any point to playing a game like this? Why were players like Mirallas playing. Surely they could have played better opposition if the idea was for Silva to see what crap there still is on the payroll.

Gaining fitness is one thing but this is not the kind of opposition to do it against.

Ron Sear
139 Posted 15/07/2018 at 23:12:40
Bury v Liverpool 0-0, We play Bury on Wednesday and the miserablism on ToffeeWeb is already up to top speed. This thread shows how useful the ATV Irdning match has been for training the fans writing skills for the coming season. Looking forward to the comments if we don't do as well as the RS.
Peter Gorman
140 Posted 15/07/2018 at 23:48:39
And I look forward to your tuppence on other people's opinions, Ron. Thanks for posting.
Michael Kenrick
141 Posted 16/07/2018 at 00:39:54
I think I'll go with Marco Silva's view of this, our first pre-season friendly:

“Of course it is not easy to analyse the game,” Silva told the Liverpool Echo.

“Of course, we expected a different level, the level was really low but most important for me – and it’s what I told the players before the match – it is not important the level of our opponent.

“Next week we will have a tough week and the level of our opponents will grow but the most important thing today was to be serious every time.

“They enjoyed moments of the game but, or course, as the result was getting worse for our opponent the game got a little bit slower but it is normal in these type of situations.

“We can analyse some of today but also all week. The players worked hard, they showed me what they want and the desire to play in our team.”

Mark Taylor
142 Posted 16/07/2018 at 01:38:12
I saw the first 8 goals then stopped because this was not a football match.

This was a pub side and not an especially good one. I don't personally get excited about seeing us put 20 odd past a pub side, even if others do.

The best excuse I've read for this non match is that it presumably was payment in kind for using their training ground, which did look very nice, though I would have thought those facilities are wasted on such talentless and unfit footballers.

If we beat Bury handily, by a couple of goals, that might signify something more than this. It seems that Silva himself hadn't realised just how bad they were going to be and as he said himself, how little one could therefore learn from it.

At least the rest of our friendlies are against real football teams

Chad Schofield
143 Posted 16/07/2018 at 02:35:31
Jay Wood [BRZ] 133, spot on and of course, thanks for posting Silva's analysis, Michael.

If the players had have started dicking around after 5 goals, what would we have learned? I think the fact Silva and the players didn't ease off shows us more. Take Tosun's accuracy and power as a positive, Lookman's hunger, Dowell's assists... Martina, Mirallas and Williams getting a spot in the shop window.

Getting excited about pre-season is pointless. I've made that mistake a lot. The last time was getting excited over Conor McAleny's form a few seasons back... he's now at Fleetwood Town after trying to get game time at a host of lower league clubs – so hope for Mirallas yet.

Lee Brownlie
144 Posted 16/07/2018 at 10:50:39
22-0?.. And this was against WHICH Liverpool side?
Iain Johnston
145 Posted 16/07/2018 at 11:00:47
What Dave Williams said...
Andrew Ellams
146 Posted 16/07/2018 at 11:10:51
This was a kickabout to say thanks to a team who had loaned their facilities to us for a few days. Not sure what everybody is getting so worked up about. We have 5 proper friendlies starting this week including 3 vs decent European opposition.
Lenny Kingman
147 Posted 16/07/2018 at 12:36:48

For Jay (your last paragraph is hilarious) and others who are pitching the positives and seemingly taking this game seriously in some way, there is this.

The reporting of this in all the National papers and the incredulity of their readers scanning the scoreline, including myself, is my bugbear here. It should not have been given such a profile as if it was a "real" game.

As for being recorded as our best ever win for the EFC history books, it is an "arranged fixture" apparently, is an insult to all the results that went before. In fact it is farcical and makes us a laughing stock of sorts for the general public, and even of some of our own fans on this thread and elsewhere.

If EFC want to get credit for their levels of performance as we go into a hopeful future I would suggest keeping 22-0 holiday camp away victories off the sports pages.

I have seen the Blues spank several professional teams over the years. Pumping 8 past Plymouth in the early sixties. 7 past Leicester and the memorable 8 past Southampton at a snowy Goodison in 71. Never double figures as far as I can remember, though Spurs whopped ten past us when I was a nipper back in 1958.

The key to this farce, as that is what it was, is being professional in all areas, and the subsequent reporting and filming of this event for wider public consumption is far from that standard. Haven't we made enough headlines for poor leadership in recent times? Rooney, Allardyce, Koeman et al, without loading more comedic copy for our detractors to heap scorn upon.

At least we didn't get 37 goals and thus deny Arbroath's 36 smacked past Bon Accord in the Scottish Cup back in the 1800s its rightful place in the Guinness Book of Records.

All that said, it was undoubtedly the performance of a lifetime for all concerned. In a Monty Python-esque sort of way.

Tom Bowers
148 Posted 16/07/2018 at 12:54:17
All-in-all, a joke game. Let's see what happens against Valencia.
Martin Nicholls
149 Posted 16/07/2018 at 12:58:41
If as some have speculated (and I agree) this game was arranged in exchange for use of ATV's facilities then as it was (clearly) open to the public, how can it possibly have been billed as anything other than a "real" game?

Before anyone asks, I did not get excited or go overboard about the scoreline – it was a useful training exercise, no more and no less.

Brent Stephens
150 Posted 16/07/2018 at 13:02:11
Lenny that 1958 Spurs game was the 10-4 "Highway Patrol" game, wasn't it?

This game in Austria was a chance to practice the routines that Silva is trying to introduce, in a low-pressure game. The choice of opposition turned out to be too low-pressure. Nobody is getting carried away with the result in terms of goals. Let's move on. Bury next.

Lenny Kingman
151 Posted 16/07/2018 at 13:27:58
Ha ha Brent yes I'm afraid so.

Over and out.

Brent Stephens
152 Posted 16/07/2018 at 13:39:28
10-4 Lenny.
Jay Wood

153 Posted 16/07/2018 at 14:02:48
Lenny @ 147.

Carry on 'humphing', Lenny, and believing that this game makes Everton 'the laughing stock of football'.

I haven't seen anyone on TW 'taking this game [or result] seriously' or as any kind of marker for the upcoming season as you claim. And that includes the manager himself.

I have, however, read more balanced views than the one you offer. Namely, that your sensibilities have somehow been offended over this. Seriously...?

Lenny Kingman
154 Posted 16/07/2018 at 14:21:57
Jay (#153).

I would suggest you read my contribution with clearer less blurry vision. Offended? I think not. The entry into the record books of this result at Butlins should bother any Evertonian who takes the club's history seriously.

As for no one on TW taking the game seriously, well I would put yourself forward as one who has. Read your effort, particularly the last paragraph, as previously stated.

If you think anything that happened up there in the wild blue yonder of the Austrian outback will have any bearing whatsoever in the real world of Premier League football this coming season, well. Seriously...?

Jay Wood

155 Posted 16/07/2018 at 14:55:18
Hmmm... Lenny.

I don't think it's me with blurry vision or struggling to accurately read or comprehend what has been said on this thread, by others or even yourself.

Carry on 'humphing', Lenny. The field is all yours.

Derek Knox
156 Posted 16/07/2018 at 15:13:02
Jay, have seen all the ' Carry on ' films, but must admit, ' Carry on humping Lenny ' is one that is new to me. 😂🤣
Tom Bowers
157 Posted 16/07/2018 at 15:30:28
Brent Stephens did you have to remind some of us about that 10-4 thumping. Wasn't that around the same time as the 8-2 thumping by the Barcodes ?
Ian Burns
158 Posted 16/07/2018 at 16:31:43
Tom, sorry to but in on your question to Brent but I was a kid at the time and all of my friends were reds. 6-1 at half time there was a photo in I think the Daily Express with goalkeeper Albert Dunlop diving through the air and the headline was "Oh no not another one"

Broderick Crawford was an American detective at the time with an extremely popular series and he used to finish with 10-4 and out.

Boy did I take some ribbing for what seemed seasons until circa 1961 when we started to come of age with Bobby Collins, Roy Vernon and the wonderful Alex Young.

Brent Stephens
159 Posted 16/07/2018 at 16:37:58
DK #156 - cracker!

Tom #157 - sorry. It's just seared into memory, and all the ribbing as Ian G&T says - I got it worst from my dad, a red.

Dave Abrahams
160 Posted 16/07/2018 at 17:15:22
Ian (158), I was at the reserve game that day at Goodison, the man who put the half time scores up was taking loads of stick, fans were telling him to go back and have a look at the score he had just put up 6-1, as you say, none of could believe it.

Mind you Liverpool fans had to live, for the previous four years with the result from Birmingham : Birmingham City 9 ( nine) Liverpool 1; and that was in the old second division.

Ian Burns
161 Posted 16/07/2018 at 17:23:15
I had forgotten about those half-time scores Dave - they used to have letters which represented a particular match and the half time scores were put up with black letters on white metallic boards! That used to be the half time entertainment as it was only 10 minutes in those far off days.

Brent - ouch - that's some ribbing!!

Dermot Byrne
162 Posted 16/07/2018 at 17:23:24
Just read Echo. Like new manager but he said the word "normal" several times.

I recall a recent Dutch guy who often said that.

Am I getting paranoid?

Derek Knox
163 Posted 16/07/2018 at 17:29:00
No Dermot, that's "normal"!
Dermot Byrne
164 Posted 16/07/2018 at 17:33:18
Shit .hearing voices now Derek!
John McFarlane Snr
165 Posted 16/07/2018 at 18:19:49
Hi Dave [160] and Ian [161], I appreciate that you must have suffered at that time, but spare a thought for me, I was at that time stationed in Limassol Cyprus, the only Evertonian in a camp of 170 squaddies, we could get Sports Report and as the Tottenham Hotspur vs Everton result was read out this is how it was announced, 'Tottenham Hotspur 10 Everton 4, I will repeat that, Tottenham Hotspur 10 Everton 4.

We were under canvas, 10 men to a tent, and within minutes it seemed as though every man on camp marched through that tent, even those who had no football allegiance gave me stick. That date, 11 October 1958, is etched in my mind, along with 29 January 1955, when Liverpool, a Second Division outfit, beat us 4-0 at Goodison in the 4th round of the FA Cup, their first away win that season. Hardly the 'Good Old Days' were they?

Denis Richardson
167 Posted 16/07/2018 at 22:07:56
Had to laugh when I read 'Number 21 was a bit farcical'.

Steven Jones
168 Posted 17/07/2018 at 02:33:03
On to Bury et al.

Anyone going to Faro at the weekend? Is there a regular Everton pub or meeting place? I am flying out Thursday pm.

Looking forward to seeing them against some top opposition after the training and serious attitude in this play friendly .

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
169 Posted 17/07/2018 at 17:36:11
There are some on here who are saying this game was Everton's payment for using the facilities. I hope not.

If I was ATV Irdning I would not be happy to be given a 22-0 thumping as thank you for using our facilities and making us a laughing stock. I would hope that we get some revenue and some free coaching and I would hope that this team of cocky superstars take all of my boys out for a beer, or four.

We usually are generous to the community and helping ATV Irdning and not embarrassing them is I hope what we have done.

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