Tosun restates his desire to remain a Blue

I would rather we get shut, at a loss if need be, as may be the case with many other passengers on the gravy train. I'm afraid Farhad must take some of the blame as he has presumably sanctioned a lot of the spending/wages.

Unfortunately I can't see this Allardyce panic buy leaving anytime soon as no other club is going to pay him any where near what we're paying him. Possibly a loan out and we cover a portion of his wages.

Add to the likes of Sandro, Niasse, Vlasic, McCarthy, Bollasie, Garbutt, Besic... highly paid players we simply cannot give away. At best farmed out on loan with us still paying part of their wages.

Just what was the club thinking when they handed some of these contracts out? Haven't even mentioned all of them.

And fair play to Cenk or any other player who loves the club and the city and wants to stay. We certainly can't move him on without his approval, and if he is determined to stay on and improve his game enough to earn more minutes on the pitch, good for him.

Maybe he'll surprise us all.

The wages and fees we agreed to pay average players throughout this awful period only served to make us the ugliest team in England. They could have funded the stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock... and we would not have suffered the shame.

In darker moments, I wonder if we will ever recover...

Darren, my impression at the time was that Tosun was more a Walsh signing than Fat Sam's -- still a Moshiri mistake, but give him credit for correcting it. I'm a huge Brands fan.

There is a huge Turkish community and on 㿭k a week he is probably the biggest earner so he can indulge himself and his family while sunbathing on the bench and enjoying the camaraderie with the lads.

We are far too nice a club. He needs to be pushed to either start performing or be shipped out. Preferably the latter based on his lack of mobility.

This applies to all the others who will not move away for less money, so as I have said on numerous occasions, these players returning to Finch Farm for pre-season training will have a toxic effect.

I think the only deals that Moshiri will sanction will be for Zouma and Gomes but, as the days pass by, it looks unlikely either will be plying their trade at Goodison Park next season.

He has a contract, he needs to be told we will make up the difference in what he is set to lose, that's the only way a lot of our fringe players will leave.

Under the way Silva plays, I think he will always be an asset coming off the bench late-on, when defences are tiring, but I don't think he fits into the way Silva sets us up. Still, he knows where the net is but maybe he'll end up in a league where a system suits his style.

That is true to a certain extent but you minimize the risk by doing a proper assessment of a player before taking the plunge. Moyes was so careful with the little funds he had but his successors have been like kids in a sweetshop and bought on instinct.

Needs moving on asap.

I think a lot of Everton's problems have arisen because we are too soft. Let's face it, most of the highly successful teams are sprinkled with nasty bastards who aren't arsed whether or not people think he is 'a nice fella'.

We need to be trying to get a few Roy Keanes, Vinnie Jones and dare I say it, Souness-type of twats to enforce our reputation on opponents.

No, most of the highly successful teams are not sprinkled with "nasty bastards" anymore.

Guys like Vinnie Jones couldn't stay on the pitch 20 minutes in the modern game. They're not even around anymore.

What passed for routine fouls in the 20th century now bring flurries of yellow and red in the 21st.

And as for "moving him on", modern contracts mean you can't do that unless the player is willing to go.

Just in case you weren't around during that era, Souness and Keane were brilliant midfielders capable of everything needed and intelligent, so I believe they could have played today.

To call Tosun shite is over the top. Vinny Jones was shite all day long and really shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as the first two if you want to be taken seriously.

I'm not saying this to criticise Moyes — he and his team plucked many a gem for a pittance — just pointing out that what appears like poor buys, like Schneiderlin, Tosun and Bolaise, do occur.

I understand your point but the proportion of "failures" brought in is much higher recently IMO, and most on big contracts:

Kone, Bolasie, Vlasic, Martina, Williams, Tosun, Niasse, Tarashaj, Sandro, Rooney, Walcott, Mina etc.

Cenk: Answer A: "Yes, I am happy here." [under his breath - "I'm getting 㿭k per week!"]
Cue: Outrage on ToffeeWeb – not worth it; get rid; waste of space.

Answer B: "No, I want to play regularly and for a Champions League club like my last one."
Cue: Outrage on ToffeeWeb – no loyalty; who does he think he is?

Players being interviewed are just like Huddersfield – they can't win.

Fault lies squarely with the club.

Can he come good? No because he runs all over the place but doesn't have the necessary acceleration nor positioning instinct that the very best strikers need.

Club to blame? Not a chance, they were resource constrained and were trying to get that holy grail of a good player at great value. 20/20 vision is brilliant in hindsight. I'd sooner look at the great deals they've done in recent times like Zouma and Gomes on loan and the purchase of Mina who has a decent chance of making it.

Based on our general transfer dealings over the last couple of years, I'd suggest Everton stuff whatever algorithm they're using down the toilet and flush it away.

Better still, gift it to them across the park.

A blind donkey would have bought better for less money!

Because of the "Moshiri fund" availablity, we seemed to buy out of desperation rather than proper research.

Will he be given another season to break through? Can we somehow get another yard of pace into him? Difficult, I know... but I would keep him a bit longer.