Everton submit outline planning application for Goodison Legacy Project

Looking after everyone thats Everton.

Very, very nice indeed - hope it stays clean and looked after by those living there. The Peoples Club

We could even have a tribute to us at our first football league ground.

I've been a big cynic about the whole BMD project, but I think it's now chiming with these times and there's going to be a huge wave behind it which the club and the whole of Merseyside should want to surf.

The economic shock of the lockdown is going to be massive and so we all need to react with boldness and confidence while not leaving the vulnerable behind, indeed while putting the vulnerable and disregarded at the heart of things.

Professor B-B strikes the right note here with this vision of regeneration for us all; the current situation is horrible for many, including many on here who have been affected, but there is hope; there really is. We must push on.

Phil (3), are you a lawyer?

I can't see how any Council could turn down Everton's plans for the Goodison legacy or their new stadium development.

It's a win-win situation for everyone connected with the project.

It's never been more important to give the local economy a boost, this and the BMD will be a crucial and welcome shot in the arm for the city. I have never been more proud of Everton FC, we really are a fantastic club and a huge asset to all the people of Merseyside whatever persuasion.

I like it all bar the 3 blocks of flats. The design looks a bit dated and I feel design wise they will not age well. It needs some more thought and some better, more organically designed, nature inspired alternatives. Get Dan Meis in for a cup of tea to sort it out.

I really like it especially the cafe and the startup hub for new businesses. Hopefully with this development the Winslow could be reborn with the influx of business and residents. Would like the 3 blocks of apartments to be in the shape of 3 letters E F C. Wouldn't that look good when viewed across the park.

Who is taking over SportPesa?

Wow looks great. Fab idea by Blues

Tony @8 Like you I'm very proud of EFC at the mo and this and BMD will be a huge plus for the city.

Have to disagree about the flat. I love them and they look pretty 'today' to me.

Hopefully it all comes to fruition.

Can you imagine if we get the go ahead around June-July and on the same Day they cancel this seasons Premier league making it null and void.

Either way, once we are rid this awful virus, things are looking up for Evertonians.

Everton, totally wrong. I thought with a new ground, you're supposed to leave the area an urban wasteland by forcing people out of their homes, not build them new ones. (Report on this, rs media, watch and learn.)

Philip (#9); I like your idea of the layout for those flats and wouldn't it be nice if it included a football pitch for the school, we could even have a competition for the name; Good One Son Heritage!

Agree Tony #8, I think the blocks should be re-shaped to form the letters E F C.

Oh, I just saw Phil #9 had the same idea!!

This and BMD will be a major economic boost for the city once this current crisis is over.

The council should get fully on board with easy planning acceptance and even funding due to all the jobs and businesses they will help to maintain during construction and create for the communities after construction.

It will be a measure of the council in their support for these developments ( and others in the pipeline) and they should be rightly damned if they fail to act for the good of the economy and the communities of Liverpool after this crisis has passed.

Has anybody on here seen the way they reworked the old gas silos next to Kings Cross/Paddington station. I was in UK last October, visiting some friends and we met there at a funky Indian restaurant. Had a walk around and I was gobsmacked with what they'd created.

From this, I feel the blocks shown in the plan aren't necessarily backdated.

It's proud to be an Evertonian. Maybe they should call the area Evertonia, L4. That would be some futuristic kind of name, eh?

Superior in every way to any of the designs and architecture around Anfield, this will do wonders for the area around county road. Well done.

Full planning docs here: http://northgate.liverpool.gov.uk/PlanningExplorer17/Generic/StdDetails.aspx?PT=Planning%20Applications%20On-Line&TYPE=PL/PlanningPK.xml&PARAM0=1175640&XSLT=/PlanningExplorer17/SiteFiles/Skins/Liverpool_WIP/xslt/PL/PLDetails.xslt&FT=Planning%20Application%20Details&PUBLIC=Y&XMLSIDE=/PlanningExplorer17/SiteFiles/Skins/Liverpool_WIP/Menus/PL.xml&DAURI=PLANNING

I hope the circle in the middle of the greenspace is EXACTLY where the centre circle is now

John (21) as far as I can tell from the plans, that is the case.

As far as the towers go, they are all aligned differently. The lowest one (nearest Gwladys St) points towards Anfield (where we came from). The middle one points towards the old centre circle (where we are now). The tallest one points towards BMD (where we are going). I love it.

Love the plan – mostly. I'm no fan of tower blocks, all that I have known have been nests of antisocial behaviour or have become inward-looking little villages. They create areas of population density and overcrowding.

Blocks in the shape of the club's initials would worsen the problems, creating no-go areas. I know that councils tore down blocks of flats and removed the top floor of maisonettes in Halewood for these reasons.

I understand that the blocks of flats would maximise the return for the club and they do look pleasing but, as someone who recalls the overcrowding and problems arising from it, I would ask the Club to think again.

Andrew (#23); I remember the problems that came with Netherley and it was later stated that they could have happily housed the same number of people in houses with gardens which it was believed would have given the people more pride in their property and thus less antisocial problems.

Quite right Alan. The planners used the "excuse" of space for building some of the monstrosities that blighted the 1960s and 70s.

I worked in housing management in Manchester in the 1970s, on the infamous Hulme Crescents. As you built upwards, a certain amount of open land had to be available adjacent to the buildings.

So, instead of the damp, roach-infested deck access "streets in the sky", decent houses could have been built. Which, subsequently, were. After the social experiment was seen for what it was and the deck access property was demolished.

Does anyone recall a documentary, must be at least 50 years ago now, called "Get us kids out of here" based on some graffiti on a block of flats in Liverpool? I'm not sure but the flats may have been in Everton Valley and, among other things, it was stated that vacant flats had to be boarded up within 2 hours of being vacated or they were vandalised beyond repair.

It also showed a police officer who said that they had determined that young car thieves were not less than 9 years old and most could out-drive police officers. When asked how they worked the age out, his reply was that any younger and their feet couldn't reach the pedals.

It'll be typical Everton luck that the council reject planning permission for the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock, but get planning permission for the Goodison Park legacy project!!!