Canaries Catastrophe the ultimate Benitez Humiliation

A crushing professional win today, don't take your foot off the gas, Blues, if you are fortunate to go ahead in the match.

Makes sense to have had either Richarlison or Calvert-Lewin on the bench rather than both start, ease them back in.

Strange one Rondon still starting, but having Calvert-Lewin alongside him might and I say it cautiously just have the effect, one striker and easy to isolate, but with two playing, Rondon will give Calvert-Lewin that bit of extra space and likewise with Rondon.

It just might actually work this two strikers, time will tell.

Looks like Allan is moving on.
Gordon keeps his place; that should please many. Rondon starting will equally displease.

Don't know how many on bench are not really 100%, but looks like some cavalry could be called upon if needed.

Now, if Gordon & Gray can emulate Tricky Trev & Sheeds, we'll be in business.

It has to be 4-4-2 because, if not, I think we are going to be in trouble here. On paper and with our current squad, this should be a 3-pointer but tactics here will determine everything.

That apart the selection makes sense and doesn't involve five at the back.

Go boys!!

My worry is, the defence will sit too deep, Gray will play more as a winger than a midfielder and that will leave us with an imbalanced 3 in midfield that will be overrun again, with Mykolenko not getting enough protection.

It should be better than 5 at the back though.

Rondon lining up alongside Dom is a bit of a surprise, but that wouldn't be the case if Richy or even Townsend were 100% fit.

With more senior players reporting 'fit', the academy players now totally absent from the bench which also sees Patterson and El Ghazi in the match day squad.

Now let's see if the tactics and game play match up to a marginally more positive and pro-active line-up.

Losing this is not an option.

Surprisingly not a fan of Rondon so far, but with another striker alongside him, It could work.

Anyway, interesting also that Norwich have 3 centre forwards on the pitch + Rashica and Lees-Melou who have good goal returns in Germany and France.

They are going for it.

I despair.

They have one player infected with CV-19. They have players injured and a couple away at the CAF tournament.

CAF comes around every two years. There are always injuries for any football club. Yet one CV-19 positive player gives clubs the wriggle room to ask for games to be called off..?

This is wrong. Clubs are abusing the system in getting games called off and the PL is facilitating them.

We had a much more legitimate case to call off our game v Chelsea then many other postponed games, but we were obliged to play it.

My only real issue is starting Coleman. For me, he shouldn't be starting any games anymore. Kenny, love him or not love him (how can you hate a true Blue), has provided 2 assists in his last 2 games. Offers more threat than our captain these days. He should be given a proper chance and run in the side.

This fat lazy shit must have something on Benitez swear to god.

Doucoure more or less asks for a midfield 3 and he plays rondon. He's just taking the piss now. Only saving grace is the bench.

Calling it now, overrun in the middle and under the cosh and 1-0 down within 15 mins.

Benitez Out!

Get this fat Spanish twat out this club at half time. It's on him.

I've never hated a manager or an Everton team as much

The is new level ineptness.

Worst thing is, it's probably too late now. We should have pulled the trigger after the Brighton match or earlier.

Booooooooooooooo!

And the worst bit about it is that we're going down without a fight. I don't think we've even realised we're in trouble.

In years to come people will talk about this Everton as a case study in how to fk up.

The defence is just fannying around and while the first goal wasn't his fault, why do keepers try to stop a ball with an outstretched leg. Midfield is non-existent, Calvert-Lewin isn't fit never mind match fit and Rondon is not fit for anything. The only bright lights are Gray and Gordon.

This manager is incapable of getting anything to work, it's rubbish!

I also don't want to ever see Michael Keane play for us again. The guy is braindead. He's such a liability! I've lost count of how many goals we've conceded where's he's been culpable by going to sleep.

Norwich, before today P 6 W 0 D 0 L 6 F 0 A 16 Pts 0

In 20 minutes they lead Everton 2-0.

Other than Gray and Gordon there aren't any positives from this performance. Again.

I watched City-Chelsea before our game today. He won't get an assist for it, but before de Bruyne's goal Foden chased down 4-5 players in Chelsea's half, including the 'keeper whose clearance under pressure from Foden was picked up by City which led to the winning goal.

There is absolutely no pressure on Norwich players by blue shirts anywhere on the park. They, by contrast, are hounding and harrassing us each time we are in possession.

Gomes and Doucoure are not competing or showing for the ball in midfield and yet again we are too easy to play through.

Lose this and even Farhad Moshiri, who is evidently standing by Benitez, must start to waiver.

Now get Gomes off. He stank out the midfield today.

Fans don't want him. Players fall out with him. And he's overseeing one of the worst runs of form in Premier League history.

What's the case for the defence?

The People's Club are failing its own people. Bill has stuck around too long, the club is an image of him. The football and managers have been pitiful on the whole under his leadership. Several clubs have overtaken us now. New stadium (15 years too late) awful team

Benitez is past it and we should have stuck with Marco Silva. Richie will be off to play CL football.

This team is not set up to win football matches. But it is set up to lose them.

Some keep arguing 'we can't afford to keep changing managers.'

Invert that. It is increasingly looking like we can't afford NOT to change this manager.

'Position untenable' just tightened a notch. The warning klaxon sirens are being wound up.

This is bad now. REAL bad.

The players don't care, of course, and are wretched.

We're terrible all round and this is a reckoning after many years.

A very low point: I would go so far as to say that the result today was one of the worst in our history.

I assume the manager will now be sacked but I do not think that any replacement will save us. I think we are going to be relegated because we have nothing about us, nothing at all. No courage, no intelligence, no technique. Meanwhile, Newcastle will improve and others at the bottom have some fight about them.

Goodnight Goodison.

Give it to Ferguson for now to try and get some results in the bag, bin off Keane, Rondon and when he is back Iwobi as well, Rondon had his chance today with support but just not good enough.

Getting dangerous now making Mike Walker look half decent.

Why don't you go home????

You're a fucking Gobshite!

Why don't you go home???!!!!!

FSW out now!!

I can't be bothered any more. If they can't give an arse, why should I? Life is too short to be made miserable any more. I'm not renewing the season ticket anyway as I will probably emigrate next year.

At least rugby league starts soon. I'm off now, I may or may not be back next season. All the best to everyone anyway, adios.

And another almost perfect display of bloody awful refereeing and officiating. Several Norwich players should have been booked and a couple red carded.
Players flattened from behind, particularly Gordon, with no effort to play the ball at all and several sliding tackles again with no intention of playing the ball.

This manager, only because it is his title not his ability, needs to be sent packing ASAP and who cares who takes over as they can't be any worse.

I'm even lost whether Godfrey is a centre-half, just too small. To a man, the distribution from that lot is absolutely appalling.

Doucoure is nowhere near the player we saw 6 months ago, granted it possibly due to a 2 man centre midfield, but the lad is a bag of nerves everytime he receives the ball.

Thought Gordon looked lightweight today, knocked off the ball too easily and strange enough didn't have the pace to take it past any defenders. Calvert-Lewin looks as though he can't believe what he's seeing.

Gomes and Richarlison the only players who earned their money today, not even Gray, who had a poor game by his recent standards.

Blame Benitez by all means, but he's got nothing to work with, a totally defunct defence and midfield, recipe for relegation.

6 points out of 36.

Over a whole season that would equate to about 20 points.

And yet there are some on here who think he should be given more time.

Really not sure about Duncan but he can't be any worse surely?

Then I went through the team sheet once more and there it was – Rondon! What the Fuck! Keane and Godfrey as our centre-back pairing must be the weakest in the Premier League.

And Mykolenko – oh dear, I so want him to succeed, because we can't afford failure in that position but he was poor today. Coleman is finished, Calvert-Lewinwas pretty anonymous because of lack of service. Doucoure and Gomes make a poor midfield duo.

Gray, I think gave up midway through the second half. Gordon keeps trying but the linesman on that side was incompetent. Godfrey did better when he came on the right side. The side looks totally confused and disorganised.

Benitez did not work out – Everton are in a relegation battle, make no mistake about that, and the sooner he makes the necessary changes, the better for Moshiri and his investment.

How the hell did people on here support him getting rid of one of our better players when we're this bad?

The really worrying thing is that the club backed Benitez in that. That tells me he's not going anywhere.

And I think we'll drop this year. Moshiri got this so, so wrong. It was never going to work.

In a very bad decline and the Everton board need to take immediate action.

No professionalism, no pride, no guts and no shape.

Where's the next win in the League coming from?

Let's just look at today rather than all 9 of the defeats in the last 12 games.

He picked Rondon, he played Doucoure and Gomes as a two in central midfield, he didn't make any substitutions after the worst first-half performance I have seen. Each of them is an absolute howler, but he would never accept that as he really thinks he knows better. And don't get me started about selling Digne when we are in such a precarious position.

He must go today.

Time he went through one more.

There is no hope when the guy with all the money hasn't a footballing clue. Sack Benitez by all means, it will make sod all difference. Moshiri genuinely believed he'd assembled a world class squad when he hired Carlo. What a job Carlo did btw, although as Carlo said, we were better without the ball and he wasn't a magician. No doubt Moshiri didn't want to hear Carlo's assessment as he couldn't bear to admit he'd spaffed £500 mill down the bog. Carlo leaves and Moshiri hires the next man in the misguided belief he can get a tune out of a very poor squad.

Moshiri you were and are wrong. Sell up and go.

Losing games to your fellow strugglers is a sure fire way to be on the road to ruin, even a gutsy few draws against those sides around us would help but we can't even do that. What's next? God knows but the longer the Spaniard remains in his job the more pain we'll have to endure.

Abject first half performance. You can tell its bigger than Rafa of course but I cannot for the life of me remember in the last few years (apart from the Big Dunc games) when we played well and with passion for 90 minutes! That shocks me. We are Everton and we are a joke of a club, embarrassing.

I have been very grateful for the money Moshiri put up but he could not have run this club more calamitously if he tried! Mistake after mistake after mistake. It's easy for me to say sitting on my sofa but he should have got in a top, top DOF from the start, no expense spared (Rangnick, Monchi) and let them have full control. He had to meddle didn't he, he had to leave Bill in with the wolves, he had to be swayed time and time again by people, he has been weak and very far from blame.

I'm not going to single out players, the defence in general was appalling, a joke.

We're a fucking laughing stock.

Enough is enough.

Get that scum bag out this club and moshiri, you can fuck off with him.

If we could sack the players, we would. We can't so the buck stops with the manager and the Board. Both are an embarrassment. Both are hell bent on taking us down it would seem.

Starting Rondon is inexcusable. Not having 5 in the middle is inexcusable. Playing that fucking big lanky dope Michale Keane, is inexcusable. He's a bag of nerves. Playing Coleman who's been finished since his injury is inexcusable, also a liability. Gomes can't operate in a 2 man midfield and has been finished since his injury. Doucoure anonymous whilst being hindered by Rafa's laughable tactics and set up.

Enough is enough. Get that rat out this club tonight before it's to late to salvage anything.

Give us a fighting chance at least. A manager that will play players in proper positions. With a system that suits. Not some stubborn shit dinosaur who has zero emotion. How could anyone play for him. He's a shambles.

You know what to do Everton. Do it tonight because the worst team in the league just turned us over and we have tough 6 pointers coming up thick and fast and we're running out of time and games.

I've never been more fearful of relegation ever. I'm convinced it going to happen. It's a certainty if that fat Spanish waiter stays at the club.

Fans need to mobilise and to whatever is needed. Protest at the ground. The training ground. Say it loud BENITEZ OUT!!!!!!! And Moshiri can fuck off with him!!!!!

All the above comments ring true week in week out - tactics- substitutions and worse the man's stubborness

He never apologises for his mistakes - nor acknowledges the fans support - a total lack of respect for anyone else's opinions

Surely we can do better without him otherwise were doomed

I fear that they will let this run on for a good few weeks yet hoping that he'll turn it around. By which time our fate will be sealed. Feel sorry for the 2 new young lads coming into this shite

Benitez seems to be a negative micromanager.

Cannot see him leading us to top 10, let alone top 6.

Coleman has been playing on borrowed time for the past 3 seasons and the timebank manager has just called in the loan; he should retire from first team football immediately.

Doucouré and DCL both need considerable match practice to get to the top of their games, and that will only come with time; meanwhile they should be playing no more than 60 minutes.

Rondon should never wear an Everton shirt again. While there are players like Dobbin and Stubbs just waiting to play Rondon should not even be considered.

And if that was the best team that could be put out, just how bad are Patterson and El Ghazi if they weren't better than what was actually on display...

Martinez. Young up and comer. In over his head.
Koeman. Spent millions on rubbish players.
Fat Sam. Grizzled owl arse. Staved off relegation but nobody liked him.
Silva. Another up and comer. Spent most of his time staring at the grass instead of the match.
Ancelotti. "Elite" manager who took the piss along with the clibs money.

So now it's supposedly Rafa's turn for the Everton elbow. So who is next? Newcastle ended up with Eddie Howe. I doubt given the current circumstances we can do any better. Because the moment the going gets tough on past history they would be shown the door as well and no doubt the better managers know it so will steer well clear.

We have to stop sacking managers. It's tough and it's hard to bear. But we have half a season to go. Our better players are coming back and maybe we can still get some in during this window. So lets not panic.

Moshiri needs serious professional advice.

A complete joke of a performance in the first half, one of the worst I have seen from us in fifty years in the context of the extremely limited team we were up against. Truly depressing stuff.

Worse still we created little, we didn't really stress out the Norwich defence too much in the entire game. The game plan was non existent.

We are in a relegation battle and in relegation form.

If we keep playing Keane and Coleman were are going to struggle more. We need to sign a combative tenacious central midfielder tomorrow

Most of all Benitez is doing my head in, I want stability, I want incremental progress. Why is he doing his best to self harm the club with his nonsense team selections ?

A change HAS to be made now.

Bring in Dunc. The Club needs it soul back, because our owner sold it to the devil.

I want this club to be BLUE again and not run by a piece of shit red. His appointment was the most embarrassing, asinine thing I've seen possibly ever.

FUCKING SACK HIM!

Unless Jim White knows better

Me, too! Never wanted the guy, hated the hiring, was embarrassed and disgusted.

Was then chided by many on TW - give him a chance they say.

WHY??? He's coached "them", insulted us while doing so, and it just REEKS of ZERO self-worth and pride to hire this shitbag.

Great post, agree 100%, time is up!

Starting Rondon was another idiotic blunder. Townsend was the player I would have brought on. We spent most of the second half launching it long or giving it to wingers who passed too late. We hardly worked Krul.

I noticed that only 6 or 7 players went to the away fans. Seems like the others were either too scared or couldn't give a monkeys.

Rafa should have been sacked ages ago. I hope he goes as his intransigence will not get wins and we will be relegated by him.

With you, Frank. I'm all for riding it out for good or bad this state of affairs has been ongoing for years despite trying every type of manager. In all honesty it's a miracle we haven't done a Villa or Newcastle and gone down previously maybe our luck has finally run out. I also agree that decent managers won't look favourably at this job.

FSW out now!!

He took the job because he was desperate, we hired him because he was the only manager willing to take the job with nil funds. Predictably, it has been a disaster.

It isn't a surprise that some supported him - what surprised me is how long they continued to support him when performances and results were self evidently atrocious.

I'll put my hand up. I reckon it's madness to keep booting managers as soon as it gets sticky.

We can't keep conceding two or more goals and expect to come away with victories, and it's all about the midfield, two in the middle is asking for trouble, particularly when the defenders have forgotten how to defend.

Hand on heart I can't see a Benitez team winning a game of football anytime soon, if there is a change of manager it might at least spark something, not guaranteed of course, but we can't continue with this current form for too much longer as it will end in relegation, partly because the fans as a unit won't rally behing this manager and that is a major factor in making the decision to change managers right now and not at some future point, when it becomes too late.

I don't see The Bobble having tweeted about Rafa getting sacked. That's a fake Bobble account with 300 followers.

We have a very poor squad but it would look a whole lot better with a decent three in midfield.

What a fuck up of a season so far

We are a very poor side. We've trailed in 15 of the 19 PL games we've played this season. It was time to change the manager after Brentford because it was clear he wouldn't cut it. By delaying we've lost two of our best 7 players in Digne and Allan (assuming he's on his way). There's probably just enough quality in the squad to survive if we get rid of Benitez now. If we wait we're toast.

Also, how the hell he could laugh when we were down 2-0 already after 20 minutes!!!

Tepid. Lacklustre. Toothless. Gutless. Pathetic. Disheartening. Grim.

So, praying that Everton survive in the PL this year, if I were Moshiri, I would sound out Wayne to be our new boss from next season.

In the meantime, I would like to offer some names:

Sam Allardyce - don't laugh, but he can do a job again
Steve Bruce - actually, I think he can help us survive
Nuno - was out of his depth at Spurs, but he could steer us to safety
Ferguson helped by Phil Neville, Stubbs, Cahill, etc

Any other suggestions?

A very badly run club and no-one could complain if we sink. I spotted Sheffield Wednesday in my run down of the fixtures today, they're floundering in the lower divisions. What gives us a golden pass to stay in the posh seats?

Benitez may go tonight, but Digne won't be coming back unfortunately. Mykolenko a second rate replacement by the looks of it.

Looks like Allan could be set for a move, and probably won't be allowed on the pitch for the next 2 weeks, while at the same time, we are losing games left, right and centre.

Stop snorting whatever it is you're snorting.

Benitez cannot be defended except on grounds of reducing Bill's influence. He had to get some minimum results relative to his early talk and he has not done that. This cannot be blamed on injuries to the extent basic play and preparedness have deteriorated. He doesn't kick balls to opponents in his own box but has created enough questionable setups and selections to possibly contributing to player pants wetting

Apologies to those ive pissed off by taking the other side of this. I actually thought he would be able to cover basics as we got rid. Instead we got rot. Sorry

-Your Retarded American English Football Friend

He absolutely has started to dismantle the side. Which is EXACTLY the reason we can't wait and let this rot and disintegration continue!

Relegation looms. Just heard a commentator on radio say he tips us to go down - and frankly it's a very, very real possibility if we allow Rafa to take us down his red-brick road!

He's just gotta go, come what may!

Christine Foster -

I watched the game at me pub! I'm pouring three drinks: one for me, one for you, and one for "Godfather" Dave Abrahams.

Might even pour a 4th for Harold Matthews, the Mage of Merseyside up in Blue heaven, who surely needs one as well!

And a 5th for Steve Ashcroft.

I'm going to need help walking later tonight.

It's beyond the beyonds now. The only solution is to have a couple of pops.

It's absolute madness that I'm even thinking it of course. But with the team selections, no visible game plan and weekly disorganisation on the pitch these unwanted thoughts are creeping into my brain and gaining credibility.

More to follow as I'm still in a pub in Norwich with my brother.

At least mine is only a 6 hour round trip.

Those poor loyal Evertonians who made the trip from Merseyside.

They don't deserve us but I still can't bring myself to hate them.

Stubborn bollocks out

"Any other suggestions? "

Close your eyes and pretend it's not happening!

BENITEZ OUT RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!

Without players that are good enough we will always be firefighting. We have tried every manager on the planet, it makes no difference who we have, we end up struggling.

To be honest if I didnt know better I would think a curse has been placed on the club! It sure feels like it.

In Big Dunc's "pre-Carlo" cameo he was brilliant.

Took a completely dysfunctional club and won a few games, got the supporters back behind the Club in a way I've never seen in all of sport, and conducted himself in a manner that made me proud as fuck.

I'm 100% behind bringing in Dunc because he's exactly what this Club needs: an injection of passion and a visible reminder of how fucking great we really are. He'd be our pride restored and personified in a dark, dark time of need.

Brian, do you know that for certain and where do you get information? Just asking.

A mans affairs are generally his own business, but I don't feel bad confessing to the Blues on here that some awful news yesterday compelled me to have more than I should of early in the night. And it made me feel a little better and so I had a few more. And then I remembered the game was on so I should stay up to really change my mood and cheer an Everton victory on. (An increasingly rare event in this day and age as we are sadly well aware...!)

And then I watched...that. I just don't know what to say.

I just. I can't even describe.
Just diabolical really.

I really needed Everton to come through for me tonight, I wanted it after the the news I've had. Maybe more than a derby in some ways. More than a cup run.

Just to take me away and cheer me up for a little bit, just to make me feel better about something. To remind me of better and in many ways simpler times. I even allowed myself the luxury to think that defeat was unimaginable - I said as much in the match preview! - and so I could afford myself the luxury of watching at least some form of positive result, no matter how minor or miniscule. A nailed on point minimum. Minimum.

But here we are. I'm as full as a doctors wallet, as full a leprechaun on Saint Patricks day, as full as a centipedes sock drawer. I've got a no doubt upset and somewhat disappointed Mrs Moore to deal with in the verynear future. I've got a hangover in the post; so potentially hard it could liberate Tibet. And I've got a football team so unfailingly embarrassing that I don't understand why I can't fuck them off even now.

There's a lot to unpack from this mess really, but in any real crisis you've got to keep calm and simplify what you need to do to escape the emergency you're in. I'm bladdered lads, but hear me out.

The very first step to getting out of this crisis is to sack Benitez. NOW.

That makes my blood boil!!!!!

Fucking red c**t!!!! I'm fuming!

background. Doesn't come worse than that.

Even those who were prepared to tolerate him at the beginning must now see that the toxicity he causes will always be bubbling under the surface,even if results and/or performances were better.With the recent set of results the Club is in danger of drowning in that toxicity.

Don't want to get involved in speculating on possible replacements but at the moment I would be happy to see a dead donkey in the dugout next week.

Nice to know you're behind us!

We're a stupid, sentimental outfit and the rot set in when our ruthless bastard, Sir John Moores, lost his health. It's been a slow crash coming.

Glass half full or half empty?

Almost a year later, I can't believe we've lost to a team that scored two against us, and yet, I thought the team that won is a terrible team. That team that beat us today had nothing, apart from the gifts we gave.

Nearly every week either Keane or Coleman is involved in a goal scoring opportunity - for the other team. When do we stop this madness?

Today, we still played our backup striker for the most of the game when we had our best attacking player on the bench. (Well done Richarlison - you put your heart into it when you came on!)

A big if, but if the board decide to change the manager, I hope Ferguson takes over for the rest of the season as there is no-one available that can quickly galvanise and also know the strengths of each player. Right now it's about a manager who the squad will play for, not about manager names anymore.

Jamie but he didn't “win a few games” though did he, don't get me wrong, I'd have him in short term, see how he does , anybody but Tapas tits.

Get him in now before its too fucking late

Coy. You know what I mean. Bring him into the position of manager, not assistant manager.

Whatevs. If you disagree with bringing in (did it again) Big Dunc fine.

Just pick anybody other than Rafa!

My desire is for Mr. Ferguson. Opinion stated.

Memory is shite... Either way I say put Dunc at the head of the class and let's get back to being Blue and some passion, please.

Accepting that such a move would strengthen Kenwright's position, the focus must now be on retaining Premier status rather than childish politics, so let us all hope Moshiri and his Paymaster will, just for once, do the right thing !

We have a host of very poor players, too many to mention, however, the manager is now just as big an issue as the playing staff.

Enough is now enough!

I doubt if any top manager would want to come to us so I suppose it's either Ferguson or Rooney. Best of luck to them if they take the role.

By the way who found Moshiri ? Bill did!

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/premier-league/12516955/benitez-i-need-time

Benitez's Everton have won just one of their last 11 matches and suffered a 2-1 defeat to then-bottom of the table Norwich City on Saturday, increasing the pressure on the former Liverpool and Newcastle United manager.

We the fans are the ones doing time.

Stubborn bollocks out

Duncan is the most obvious, he would at least bring passion and would have the support 100% behind him which, as we saw against Arsenal, can make a huge difference. I think that the timing may also be good with Slippy up next - Dunc will want to put that gobshite squarely in his place.

I am so depressed that I am inclined to go with your proposal and I would also go for the joint Rooney ticket too in some way if we could. He's got a fine football brain and George McKane is spot on.

It's a time for radical punts and wild surmises. Marshall Foch I have quoted on here before: "My centre is giving way, my right is retreating, excellent situation, I am attacking."

Even if that's apocryphal, it's wonderful.

We must break our chains.

1) we'll scrape enough points to survive (probably end up 15-16th).
2) we don't have the money to sack him.

This is all on Moshiri and his mentor Kenwright. 20 odd years of mismanagement and malaise have brought us to this death spiral and sooner or later if drastic measures aren't taken we will, eventually, go down

It looks like we do not have a strategy and the team looks mentally weak. That is the managers fault.

I would be fine if we lost games, but played good and had bad luck. But seriously, we look like shit and it is getting worse.

We can not give Rafa much more time. But what manager would be the answer? I don't trust Moshiri to be the man to pick managers. He might be the worst managerpickers I have seen.

We need someone who understands the players we have and can put some fear and fire into them. I can't see what we could lose by giving him a run of at least 4-5 games.

1) I don't see were the points needed to avoid relegation will be coming from... If we can't beat an out of form bottom of the prem Norwich, who would we be able to beat?
2) It will be far much more costly to be relegated to the Championship.

FSW out now!!

How the manager can convince the owner to continue is beyond me. How are we back to square one AGAIN???

Digne, by the way, I think was a good sale. He was spiralling downwards pretty quickly.

What you can be sure of with Duncan is that he will at least try his best and he cares for the club long term. How he really is as a manger I don't know. There is a risk that he will wear players out if he is too roothless. It is worth a try for half a season.

Scott Parker, the RS at Blackpool, Cooper at Notts Forest, Jesse Marsch, Eamonn Holmes from the morning telly thing. Is there anyone in Kazakhstan? Names, names, names.

Everton over the last decade have shown no fight, no strategy, no desire, no urgency etc… This is the culmination of the Kenwright/Moshiri experiment. Any other new owner would've got rid of the fat fuck from day one but no, our brainless billionaire has stuck with him and this is the logical outcome.

The players know they are under no pressure as we are a “family club”. Managers will come and go and these tossers will happily watch their bank accounts grow bigger by the day with zero effort and even less pride.

So why not Wayne or Duncan ?

Good shout on Eamon Holmes. He's been looking for a fresh start after falling out with Schofield

We've been rubbish since the first international break, and we're getting what we deserve for not sacking Benitez sooner.

I agree the problem lies in the boardroom, with a clueless owner pulling the strings, but in the dressingroom and on the pitch, the players need an influx of energy right now... some energy to make us fight for those 19 needed points... and that can only be provided by a appointing a new manager.

FSW out now!

Does Rafa not learn?
Does Rafa not see that Rondon is not good enough?
What is the problem here?

This issue alone should send Rafa out the door.

If you are right he should have been fired already.

We are in freefall with no leadership either on or off the pitch, the players have no pride in the shirt or themselves, apart from the odd few.

Time for Benitez to go. I've been one who has given him patience, the benefit of the doubt, and a modicum of belief that he might be the manager to end the apathy and abject performances (team and individual) that have been often and widespread over the last 6 seasons. It is clear to me now that he is no longer showing enough signs that he is that manager. Time to find the next manager of Everton Football Club, now.

They are everything that we are not, in every single position on the football pitch.

I think we should all brace ourselves for that trip to St James Park on Tuesday February 8th because I honestly believe for both clubs a defeat could well signal the demise for relegation.

Newcastle v Everton

Our biggest game since the 2009 FA Cup Final.

Thing is the fucking Board need going too !!!

We need to get classy players in, but who? We can get rid of players, no problem, but who should we get in? That is the big question.

It's more Kenwright-esque in-house shite.

The old "he gets Everton" shite really does my head in.

Gets what exactly?

One fuckin Cup Final in 25 years?

Everton need gutting from top to bottom and I'd love to see the back of Moshiri and Kenwright who have taken this club to a new kind of laughing stock, but sadly that will not happen will it.

Anyone who thinks he shouldn't be sacked after that, please, please, please tell me how you have so much faith in this charlatan? How bad as it got to get?

The fella isn't fit to rub carotene oil on Mike Walkers perma-tan. I thought things were bad then, they were, but never thought we'd be relegated (a lot younger and naive I'll admit) but now, with this incumbent in charge (Not for much longer, hopefully) I can't see any other outcome.

Truly depressing, and you got to feel for the travelling faithful after that. Ironically, my last visit to carrow road was when we lost 3-0 on Mike Walkers return match. Plus nearly got arrested in the Old Swan with me mates once we got of the coach for no other reason than being there. Let us go once me mate offered them a leftover sandwich he didn't eat, as we pissed ourselves laughing at the gesture

Truly depressing return journey, so sympathy for the best away fans in the league.

Rafa out!

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There's no consistency in formation, tactics or personnel from one game to the next.

What is going on?

Why can apparently no manager seem to motivate any energy out of this lot. It's been years since the fitness and effort and desire has been there.

Benitez has been given a bum deal at this club but, after a promising start, he's making it so much harder for himself.

Maybe it is time for a change.

We constantly ridicule the players but the majority of them were with the club last season. This manager has one of the worst records for a manager in the Premier League that have got relegated. There are no more excuses and, as well as the poor results, Benitez is starting to drive the fans away from the game.

The sad thing is that the people who matter don't seem to care about ruining their supporters' week. I was one who was included in saying we should keep him and see what happens, but there just doesn't seem to be any change at all, same dreary passing around from the back allowing the opposition to get back in numbers.

We no longer afford that old expression, "We are to good to go down" – we are prime candidates to go down. There has to be a change to stop the rot and unfortunately that change now has to be at the manager level. He is constantly proving that he is lost at the Premier League level.

Following the negativity of the fanbase and Everton being a family club it is with great regret that we have decided to dismiss the current tea lady, we wish Josie all the best for the future and have decided to replace her with a modern drink dispenser.

nb: It was also decided to extend the current manager's contract to 2031 as we all realise that it will take a great deal of time for him to adapt to our club and the owner has promised to support him for as long as it takes.

I also hate to admit it but we should have brought Moyes back after we sacked Koeman. I think that boats sailed now he's comfortable at West Ham. So as much as most of us dislike BK, we'd almost certainly be in a better position now if Bill had got his way and had Moyes back. It really pains me to say that too.

He worked well with many Portuguese players at Wolves. I do not think he is the right man for us...

If we have the same results in the outstanding (unfortunate adjective) games as in the corresponding games already played, we get 13 points.

Plus whatever comes from two games, home and away, against both Newcastle and Leicester. Get 6 points from 12 in those 2 games - total 19.

Phew, we're safe. We can afford to remain poo.

As regards to Dunc, I would say over the last 5 seasons, the one bright spot was Duncan and the crowd all together as one when he took temporary charge.

I think short term and fans on board, Dunc could at least get some points to get us away from our slide.

Was one of the ones saying we need to give the manager time, with players back from injury and players coming in, me personally I think he has lost the dressing room.

Cannot leave it much longer before we decide one way or the other, what we do need is the fans together, and that will not happen under Benitez, even some of us who wanted more time for him, Well it is just not happening.

While we have the likes of Keane, Coleman (lost it completely), Gomes, Iwobi, Rondon etc… this team is going nowhere. They don't have the skills or mindset to be premiership players. You watch other teams who play with pace and desire and compare them to our shower and it makes you want to cry.

This isn't just a managerial problem, this is an existential crisis. We have no identity and no quick way to solve this.

Yes, regardless of whether or not one wants Benitez gone, that toxity at Goodison would NOT be good for the players during a game.

He has a good trackrecord working with nothing. He is good at several things, one very interesting factor with him is that he is good at building up players from the bottom.

That is exactly what we need, someone that can build up our players mentally.

When Potter as In Östersund they bought cheep players, players that were problem players, but with potential. Players, that falled of for different reasons. And they did brilliant. Östersund is maybe the only away team that has ever got a standing ovation in Istanbul after winning against Galatasaray 3-0.

If I am to pick one manager, that is not a caretaker manager, I pick Graham Potter. Can we convince him to come?

We need to give ourselves breathing space, before appointing another journeyman manager.

Board meeting this evening! What board meets on a Saturday evening?

Bye bye Rafa, welcome back Big Dunc 😃😃😃

I am one of those who has probably been patient for too long, but as a long time supporter from the last time we were relegated we HAVE to do something. The only problem is that since Moyes left we have proved to be disasterous at selecting the right man.I have to compliment all those honest posters who have suggestions as to who could be next. Personally I haven't got a clue We will probably be the team to choose a woman to be the first female manager in Football couldn't do any worse that what we have had over the past eight years.

You have just made a grumpy arl bastard quite literally laugh out loud.

The absurdity of our beloved club summed up in a single sentence

Once again this whole mess stinks of Moshiri and Kenwrights fingerprints.

Can anyone confirm please?

Dead cat bounce as we initially get 12 points from the next four games (Villa, Newcastle, Leeds and Southampton) before reverting to type and eking out 6 points for survival from the remaining games (starting with City home and Spurs away).

We have had a left back circus, a right back for up to £16m who cant yet get in ahead over the sadly declining Coleman, and a winger allegedly signed by our esteemed owner.

We have a manager playing our ageing, declining right back as left wing back one week as a CB the next, back to right back today. I'm not blaming Seamus here at all, the club should have long sorted his replacement.

We're playing a midfield two week after week that gets overrun, today it was madness with the too slow Gomes and after Doucoure has said he works best in a three. It's an absolute nonsense of a strategy. A complete misunderstanding of the players at his disposal and their capabilities.

Also madness playing Rondon when we have Richarlison on the bench. Get our best players on the pitch ! Get the game won then rest them ! FFS.

Madness leaving our best CB Mina on the bench.

We could have played a 433 today and destroyed Norwich. Benitez chose not to, it's got him the sack tonight.

I think the term is falling on your own sword. This certainly applies to him.

Dunc on a 2 year contract. But if you think that's nuts, then caretaker.

Just get the FSW out.

Nuno
Lampard (loved the way his Chelsea played)
Farve or however you spell it

I think it's time for Duncan to step up and have a go of it.

Yes. Imagine a Coach at Everton who actually went for it and played connected, offensive-minded stuff that actually is exciting to watch!

Anywho my limited experience with born and bred Blues is they'd crucify Lampard for not being able to defend, so I'm not sure it's a fit.

But personally I'd love to see Frank appointed.

To be fair, we are fucked all round coz the same gobshite Kenwright is still here.

Fucking depressed…

Just get Favre for the rest of the season. At least we will win more than 1 game in 12!!

If Benitez does go, there are still people at Everton who hold a candle for Roberto Martinez. Hard to say anything with any real confidence about such a dysfunctional club & board that has got so much wrong. Would sum it up if they went back to the first manager Moshiri sacked.

I can't see the return of Roberto, but I can see the board not having a ready made alternative because they are so far adrift of the fans sentiments that they probably thought Benitez would at least be here until May.

John @ 367. Digne was excellent today, every bit as good as earlier in his time with us. I think that says plenty about recent managers.

As to him making a mistake for the second goal as suggested above (Brent, was it?), I think you'll find the mistake was by Sanson.

Giving Dunc a 2-year contract might work out more expensive than bringing in a new manager.

For sure we'd have to buy a new assistant coach's seat as Dunc's arse has been sitting in it so long it's got a big dent in it.

He would have relegated us and fucked off just like he did at Wigan. We already have a coach who can do that.

Honest to God, I'd keep Benitez rather than have that dud back.

I think it is due to what Paul Tran describes: "If he hadn't been through so many managers, he'd have sacked him by now."

Martinez, sacked even though he reached two domestic cup semi-finals and although poor in the league, still comfortably mid-table.

Koeman, a decent 7th placed finish in his one full season. Dismissed after 9 games into his second scoring, averaging a point a game as Benitez is after 19 games.

Allardyce, ugly as fuck football, but still gleaned 34 points from 24 games and got us to 8th.

Silva, dismissed 15 games into his 2nd season averaging like Benitez a point a game.

Benitez has to go. There should be no way back from this current run of one win in 13, 6 points from 39. Today's defeat to the woeful Canaries.

Who replaces him will get resolved. There are scores of candidates who would leap at the chance of managing a Premier League club.

The big negative is, having seen off Marcel Brands the one football man on the board, the people who will be choosing our next manager are Farhad Moshiri and Ben Kenwright. I hardly think Graeme Sharp will have many names in his Filofax or on speed dialling he could suggest.

I'll throw a name into the hat. Abel Ferreira, 43-year-old Portuguese coach of Brazilian side Palmeiras.

In just over 12 months he has won the South American equivalent of the Champions League, the Libertadores, twice, plus the Brazilian cup. All without signing one single player, just good coaching.

On the touchline he is like a young Mourinho and Conte. On speed. Goodison would love him. Watch out for him and Palmeiras at the club World Championship next month.

Brazilian league only starts in April. His contract expires in June this year. He is gettable.

Why do some supporters go back to shite we have already sacked? Silva for fuck's sake... Bobby Brown-Shoes – tosser... Moyes – give it a rest.

Try and think elsewhere and have a look around, have you ever heard of Howard Kendall, Mk 2 & 3 disaster? Never re-employ; it never, ever works. Give me an example in football.

Jay, an interesting proposition. The club needs a shot in the arm, something completely different.

These are troubled times for our club and I have to say I doubt whoever they bring in (or promote) can stop this slide to oblivion.

My faith in our Kalashnikov-wielding owner, Mr Usmanov, to pick the right man is sub zero.

Rondon was quite neat and tidy today and held the ball up well to bring Gray and Calvert-Lewin into the game... with Calvert-Lewin having another run out for fitness.

With Richarlison and Mina back, Rondon will be back on the bench for the next game. It's the defence that needs an overhaul and I would bring in Mina for sure and maybe have Godfrey left-back, and even consider Holgate at right-back. Jonjoe Kenny hasn't done too badly either when called upon.

Our manager needs to be able to rely on players, especially his defenders. Branthwaite needs to be given a chance now too. Once again, we use only 2 subs with Townsend and El Ghazi wasted.

After only our second loss of the season, I said I wanted shut of this manager but the fans are all toxic towards the club, players and each other so changing the manager may be the only option.

Not a lot of managers out there and I think Duncan would of be a very short term pantomime choice.

My choice, as previously stated, would be Slaven Bilic. Benitez can't have much longer but he has been given a lot of power and say over the last few months so the ball is in Moshiri's hands. If he pulls the plug, that's another £20 million payout.

Changing managers every year, another 5+ players every year... I guess the only plus point is we actually sold a player for a profit for once instead of having to loan him out till his contract ended.

Pretty shit this isn't it.

What's your source?

For all his faults and predictable detractors on here, Martinez got us to two semi-finals prior to getting the chop by a mega-rich amateur who knows fuck all about football and was no worse than the 5 who replaced him. The malaise comes from the top.

Maybe not even Moshiri decides, perhaps it's up to his boss? I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Benitez in the dugout next week.

Their individual qualities.
Their ability to play in various positions.
The collective strengths and weaknesses of various combinations of players.
Their personalities (so important for wanting to give 100%).

How long will it take for any such new manager to get up to speed with this squad (apart from the 5 minute Rondon watch)? And, in the meantime, how many precious points might be lost?

Sheffield United played exactly the same tactics last season but were better than Norwich. The forwards were confined to crumbs, not their strong point.

Moshiri has not a clue what to do. His only plan to sort the Club out was to employ a Manager to do so. This was never going to work. Benitez can not even improve performance so poor are the playets and Club. Ancelotti had the same problem , but went down the tactical way of not being dependent on poor players. Benitez has not done that so the results have drifted. .

No Manager will sort out basket case Everton. Moshiri has a tackle the structural problems that infect the Club from top to bottom.

If not them two then Carra and rat boy. They both hate Everton even more than Rafa does so they might be able to shake things up a bit. Plus Billy bullshitter would hate them

I can't imagine how they would know ahead of BBC Sport, Sky Sports, TalkSPORT, etc.

Is this as bad as MW 1994 or HK 1998?
Don't answer that - and just in case you need it
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Bilic touting himself

I really don't know why we seem to be the only club always linked to previous managers. Like a dog to it's vomit, fool to folly. Surely there are other candidates?

Ferguson for the rest of the season.
COYBs!

Big Sam to save us and 're-evaluate in the summer!

New manager has to quickly phase out Kean,e Coleman, Gomes somehow and get some fighting spirit. Potter for me but probably Dunc for the foreseeable.

This journalist saying he's gone

“Cannot leave it much longer before we decide one way or the other, what we do need is the fans together, and that will not happen under Benitez, even some of us who wanted more time for him, Well it is just not happening.”

Except for “not much longer” - he has to go now. We can figure out who has to replace him later while Ferguson looks after them at least for the short term.

Very sad and I fear for us if not this season then next. Which manager with intelligence, common sense and any sort of track record is going to jump at the chance of managing such an obviously dysfunctional club.

I know, I know, contracts, contracts. And frustration of contract.

The cardinal sin of exposing Moyes limited ambitions with predominantly loanees in an unequalled first season made him a target for Moyes disciples. As soon as things went pear shaped BOOM!! they savaged him.

Their presence infests this parish still making his appointment potentially as divisive as Benitez. Can't have another appointment needing to win everything in sight to get a fair crack of the whip.

Stay away Bobby this fickle fanbase lacks the patience you would need.

On a serious note, if none of these highly reputable managers could get a tune out of our misfits who can?

Guess it will be Ferguson as interim (or Unsworth?). And then who knows? Lucien Favre, Niko Kovacs, Rooney? I can imagine Nuno Santo might feel like a safe bet for Moshiri. I'm not sure why on earth Graham Potter would come here.

Everton have been playing generally badly since the 2014-15 season. Managers have come and gone but no manager has fixed the problem.

The players who play badly have been accumulated by previous managers. But why Coleman is still the first-choice right-back is a mystery.

Whoever is the next Everton manager will still have to deal with Everton players who get their managers sacked. Or, in Ancelotti's case, he did a 'runner' when faced with having the same players for another season.

When "Sack the Board" was sung at the Liverpool game, that was the end of Brands. When "Sack the Board" was sung tonight, my first feelings were that will definitely be the end of Benitez.

He can't remain with so many bad results, but when are the real culprits going to be kicked out of Everton Football Club?

A club that has been a disgrace to its Latin motto ever since a certain actor kidded his way into owning it – a once-great institution of the English game.

Given we no longer have a DOF, if it's going to be Duncan, that's a hell of a responsibility to dump on a relatively inexperienced, albeit passionate manager.

He needs someone else, an experienced sounding board to be there to provide support. Not that we would get him, but I would have thought an Arsene Wenger type would be ideal.

If we want to preserve 68 years of top-flight football, which I think is worth a few cups here and there, then this balloon needs to go... tonight.

Did a solid job at Bayern (or at least achieved the minimum demanded - a league title) and was doing pretty well at Monaco before getting the bullet. In his time at Monaco (only 18 months) he took them from relegation candidates to almost winning the league (and getting into the Champions League qualifiers) without spending money or signing many players. Sounds fucking perfect for us. The Guardian had a piece about him the other day - Link

Christine Foster (369) has nominated herself. Having read her posts in the past she would be a far more sensible appointmaent than half the "Dopes" already suggested by posters.Christine, IF you need an assistant I could be ready by Monday.Even my wife has often said that I seem to know more about everything than any other human being.

Christine Foster (369) has nominated herself. Having read her posts in the past she would be a far more sensible appointmaent than half the "Dopes" already suggested by posters.Christine, IF you need an assistant I could be ready by Monday.Even my wife has often said that I seem to know more about everything than any other human being.

No more new players then in January, as more money is spent on compensation to a sacked manager. Unless of course we sell either DCL / Richarlison to raise some dosh.

Next manager now has players brought in by several managers - what a sh*t show of a club we are.

Moshiri needs to get someone in as chairman to run the club and let them get on with it and keep his nose out of it. If not then he should sell up. Kenwright just needs to go.

The next manager appointment must be the right one, because the Old Lady is very tired and can't take much more. She is like someone who has fought too many battles and sees no light, at the end of the darkest of tunnels and just wants to go to sleep and never wake up. Very sad indeed.

Plays to the gallery.

Fuck Liverpool, we might be in the same league as them when you look at the EPL table, but we are light years behind them, when it comes to hard nosed professionalism, and hard nosed pragmatism, and anyone showing such qualities, had better be careful, because the cosy club isn't for disturbing it seems.

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Thanks to Brian Wilkinson for showing me how to upload this.

All the best blues... the grass 'is' greener

Paolo Fonseca and Lucien Favre are both out of work. We were after Fonseca when he was at Shaktar. Remember?

Other teams seem to know Everton's frailties and that's what they exploit without any fear of what Everton can do.

Norwich did their homework and went after Everton's porous defending.

Rafa cannot get the unity needed to defend properly and must go.

Pretty good - bit of a background Lightning Seeds vibe.

It's just so amateurish, as ever.

Jim White's next show is between 10am-1pm on Monday by the way, if anyone's currently in a coma.

Get rid now. Worry about Kenwright later.

Anyone else heard Gary Megson till end of season or is that a bad rumour?

Martin Keown said Everton had to sit down and work out whether they wanted to survive in the Premier, get into the top six or top four.

The underlying truth is that( hijacked ) Everton strategic plan is determined by the ability and motivation of those that play for the Club and associated services, plus those that run the Club. They are all only interested in maintaining their position. . They only have the ability and motivation to achieve that.

Mid table will get them that. The threat of relegation will get rid of anyone who has different plans.

Martin Keown said Everton had to sit down and work out whether they wanted to survive in the Premier, get into the top six or top four.

The underlying truth is that( hijacked ) Everton strategic plan is determined by the ability and motivation of those that play for the Club and associated services, plus those that run the Club. They are all only interested in maintaining their position. . They only have the ability and motivation to achieve that.

Mid table will get them that. The threat of relegation will get rid of anyone who has different plans.

Questions lie firmly at the door of the board and the owner as to why this appointment was made in the first instance?

I'm getting to the point we're I don't care who the manager is any more, I just want results, a performance and some organised passion to keep us in the top flight and make some progress challenging for Europe and trophies.

Mal, This time was a combo of shitty players and weird formations by FSW.

Soren, The Megson rumour came from The Bobble on twitter...

Soren, The Megson rumour came from The Bobble on twitter...

Once you have a strong spine, the rest of the defense need to be solid and defensively sound.

Then it's the midfield, the engine room of any team. It makes an average team good and a good team great. This hasn't changed in my lifetime.

Sadly, we have an owner and board that have made mistake after mistake on managerial appointments and recruitment policies.

Digne was worth far more to us than £25M. Allan likewise and yet talk of him being loaned away is unbelievable. Neither solve our issues unless a couple of players are already lined up.

I don't know what or how Rafa is expecting the team to play but I'm sure it's more than what they are giving. We have been pathetic in the opening 20 minute's of every game for months now and we appear to be getting worse.

We need our next manager lined up. The short lists should have been ready from his decisive appointment.

1 game left in January vs Villa. Let it be Rafas final bullet dodging chance. A convincing win, performance and way forward.

I say this because the board need time, Rafa has brought in some good attacking players, perhaps the strongest forward line up we have had for decades.

Can he, would he dare save his job by going all out attack?

No. All I can see is more mistakes by the board unless there is a magic wand playing "G.Sharpe".

Just put us out of our misery.

Just put us out of our misery.

Hello Colin,

Papa John Pizza, nice one!

"On a serious note, if none of these highly reputable managers could get a tune out of our misfits who can?"

The lack of drive, energy or attack from the team, especially first halfs of games is what will send us down, they're being hustled everytime.

I doubt the club doctor mixing their sports drinks with methamphetamine would make any difference, there's lethargy that won't go away.

F*** no, he looked hopeless at WBA when they went down.

Only Easy Street is Good Enough is the ethos throughout the club ever since Kenwright got his hooks in.

The next manager under our clowns is probably already contacting his accountant right now to plan how best to invest his pay-off when sacked.

Yes. Who do you suggest that can. Benitez gone will just be another chance gone to turn the Club around. It is that bad.

A Emegency Board Meeting calked by Kenwright is bullshit. Benitez has not gone yet , too early for a Moshiri/ Usmanov decision. They appointed Benitez.

Wait on a reply to Jimmy White's text

I think there's a shady media agency somewhere that specializes in it.

Can you imagine the club announcing Bilic...

The only sense I could make from appointing Rafa was his experience and general solid counter attacking play was not too dissimilar to Carlos. At last, some sort of planned continuity. Maybe on paper it was an easy choice but we all knew better.

Both Rafa and Brands are gone. Hopefully we can reassess what we have and how we want to play and reset the solid counter attacking mindset because we don't have the players and we have 3 seasons to prove it.

We also don't haven't the 'play it out from the back' squad or youth teams to implement that successfully.

We need a simple, high energy, get forward quickly, close everyone down, a bit of man to man marking on the front foot and run till you can run no more about us. This sound's simple.

But I end up with Bielsa?

Other options..

Lampard did pretty well in my opinion but with a very good squad of players. I don't think we have what he needs.

Scott Parker I think did a better job in terms of coaching and style of play. But his insistence to always play out from the back is what got Fulham relegated. Another Martinez / Silva.

Potter is probably a better balance of both, but every game I think he has a lot to learn. All 3 are too high risk for me.

They all except and accept repeated mistakes in order to play their version of the right way. Fools!

I'm worried we will end up with another expensive Premier league failure. AVB, de Boer, Martinez etc. or worse Sam, Ramon, Pelegrini, Nuno Santo.

I think short term contracts until they deserve longer. 12-18 month extensions etc. Rewarded well for winning silverware £10M-£20M, standard basic £2M.

You need to have a listen to your song!

I felt the same way when Benitez was announced.

Tough road ahead. Some of the names bandied above and elsewhere, whether in jest or not, are genuinely frightening. Owen Coyle, anyone?

He has never really been positive about our club, he doesn't get us, he doesn't understand what it means to be an Evertonian.

That's way it make sense. He's got the experience to know and understand how badly managed we have been over the last decade and more.

He will play to our players strengths and won't be afraid to tell everyone what is and isn't acceptable. He could be the flint that helps light the fire!

It could be and has been much worse!

It's nearly full of lead-swinging layabouts of every age and position, with maybe a handful of exceptions all of whom I'd expect to now be in urgent discussion with their agents to get them out of our club asap.

Mega-buck salaries to "international" who-are-they players, or last-chance-saloon moderate players (who already stink FF out), or an Unsy sprog who looks like he might have something about him in a good team will be our unavoidable way "forward" under the current regime.

To expect any manager to re-set our calamity of a club in months is ridiculous. It'll take years and lots more money - and I'm no fan of Benitez by the way.

BMD? "Blind Man's Dalliance" certainly, given the way we're going.

I think Clarke has done well at Scotland but like the Denmark manager and Gareth Southgate he seems to be well well suited to international football which is a different dynamic than club football. His club record isn't so great.

I will take some comfort from the fact that we have some good players. Richarlison has got blue blood running through his veins. Gray and Gordon are good players. Godfrey is getting back to his best.

Young Mykolenko made a couple of mistakes, one of which nearly gifted them a goal, but I think he is made of the right stuff and will turn out to be a good buy.

Let's hope Mina can stay fit and Patterson is up to it. There is a team in there somewhere. I would sell the farm for a crafty playmaker right now.

Look at Brian Kidd. Highly respected No 2. Did a lot in Fergie's early Man Utd success and people thought he'd take Blackburn places. But, the only place he took them was down to the Championship.

Unfortunately, you are right. Benitez has not been prepared to adjust his principles, or change to Ancelotti's much-slighted tactics of last season. This makes me think that he will still be backed by Moshiri and Usmanov.

They think of Everton's problems as being sorted out by the appointment of Benitez. We all know the problem needed addressing deeper within the Club and this is beyond Benitez's remit.

I expect Benitez to survive till the end of the season.

Sounds like you're having a cunt of a time of it on and off the pitch.

Hold on tightly to that sense of humour lad, it'll serve you well... and remember what Scarlett O'Hara told you!

Probably 4.4.2. keeping things simple. We need lot's of changes, from personel to tactics and board to academy.

But the priority and main priority is always the first team!

I'd like to an an extra man in central midfield, short term thin could be Holgate or Townsend.

Without a DOF or manager, what now happens with recruitment. Hopefully top quality signings have already been identified for a CB and CM.