More than a few ToffeeWeb readers were in high spirits after the summer transfer window slammed shut on 1 September. Jack Grealish seemed to be the icing on a yummy cream cake.

We can be forgiven for a 100th-minute winner reaction to the last window after what we have had to put up with for so long. Many of us were rubbing our hands together thinking about our new ‘assets’ (didn’t someone on here recently refer to a player as an ‘asset’?): Tyler Dibling, Adam Anzou, Kieran Dewsbury-Hall, Thierno Barry, Merlin Röhl, and Jack Grealish (plus Mark Travers and Tom King). Does Alcaraz count? We also breathed a collective sigh of relief as costly mediocrity was at long last shown the door (was that the most successful aspect of the last window?).

Some of us praised the recruitment team and their achievements to the highest heavens. Many of us, perhaps more circumspectly, spoke of a good, decent, or fair job… but that there was a lot more to do. One of us, an American national, burst out in atomic prose proclaiming that our recruitment team — put together by ruthless and razor-sharp American businessmen —was top-notch. He also kept reminding us that we had two more high-flyers joining ‘the team’ in September. Awesome!

Message to self: in what month did the window shut? What ‘top’ businessmen, knowing (or should have known) that this was our most important transfer window for a while (with so much in and out and at stake), would allow two jewels to join us after it slammed shut? That sounds like poor planning to me, no matter if one or both of them had a job at the time. That’s what ‘ruthless’ businessmen do, isn’t it, they smash and grab?

The maple leaves are falling from my trees as I look out of my window. Summer seems a long time ago now. Just two of those players who joined us in the last window are regulars in our line-up (Röhl has been unlucky). Nine of the players who started against Spurs were with us last season.

Jack Grealish signing on loan from Manchester City was a real pick-me-up moment. No doubt about that. But as reality sinks in, for me at any rate, he seems now to be papering over the cracks (some of them are deep). He is a thin veneer. Peel it off and look underneath.

We did not look like a balanced team against Spurs and I think that this has been the case for a while. And then there is the ‘get the ball out to Jack as quickly as possible' “tactic” that too many times for comfort ends up with one of the following: (1) ball played backwards; (2) goal kick for them; (3) a shuffle, shimmy, shake, and sidestep, and the ball rolls harmlessly to one of the two or three defenders pouncing on our Jack in a pincer movement.

Ndiaye, arguably playing out of position because of you know who, has been our best player so far this season. I wonder how our ace recruitment team will manage him in the next summer window? Grealish, after a sparkling start to the season, has been second-best. Iliman was outstanding in the first half at The Etihad (Jack, of course, was not on the pitch) and he was our most threatening player once more against Spurs.

So, how does that last window look now… 2 months on?

I’ll get into trouble in some quarters for saying this but, to be honest, I don’t really care at all. It’s Everton that matters — not some bruised fiery typist. I would grade the window and our ace recruitment team at C+.

This is because some of the incoming have been barely used and, as we hear over and over again, we failed to address some deep structural issues. The parrot in me notes that the first player we were strongly linked with was a right-back, but that we were never strongly linked with a right-back afterwards that I am aware of.

The parrot in me also notes that only one of our last dozen league goals was scored by a striker. It was a fundamental schoolboy error not to effectively sort our two glaring issues: up-front and right-back. (I would also add left-back; Mykolenko is not good enough and he showed this again against Spurs, although he was astonishingly high up the pitch at times.)

A regular contributor on here keeps claiming that we are a top striker away from European football. It’s so frustrating, isn’t it? We can almost feel that prize… inches away. Said contributor reminds us that we do not have a top – I would say reliable – striker. 

Please don’t answer that we got Barry in, didn’t we. That’s like saying that the capital of England is Hartlepool. No doubt that that fella who comes on here with Barry’s stats from a season ago will dive on to show how wrong I am. But I have seen nothing of substance with my own eyes to suggest that he is in any shape or form an answer (I really hope that he is though).

We hear now that Moyes would like another striker, if we are reading him correctly. That is surely a significant comment on the recruitment boys. The rest of this year looks winter-bleak on the striker front. But I always have that Benny Hill running tune ready at hand to turn on whenever Beto charges into their penalty area with a keeper or defender to beat.

We have the worst ‘striking’ partnership in the Premier League. I would kill for that Sunderland striker. This is criminal. I’m at the point now where I would play Ndiaye up front. My team would look like this: Pickford, Garner, O’Brien, Tarkowski, Mykolenko (give Aznou a start?), Gueye, Dewsbury-Hall (Röhl?), Grealish, Dibling, Alcaraz, Ndiaye.

Moving forward, it’s still just 2 months since the window closed, so this is an interim report. Time matters, although as the late and great Bowie told us, it can fall ‘wanking to the floor’. Let’s keep our fingers crossed. But something has to change both on and off the pitch.

And hope springs eternal with the two new additions to the TFG team last month. Hang on. I wasn’t paying attention or might have missed it, but did those two fellas show up in September and are they now working day and night on recruitment to soothe my concerns? Perhaps our American friend could remind us what their names and titles, positions and roles are?

The January transfer window will give us another chance to comment on our ace recruitment team. Let’s see how they do. But every man and his dog knows that we are in desperate need of a striker and right-back and prices will reflect this. Can someone tell the TFG team that we do not need another midfielder in January. It’s way down the list of priorities: striker, right-back, left-back.

I know that there are other reasons for why things could be better right now. But the annoying thing for me is that we had a window to address our basic gaps and flaws. Perhaps we did our best? Perhaps we were short on funds (ie, backing from TFG)?

Nobody on here knows the full story, although many guess or claim to know. The Spurs game was the near-natural consequence of a C+ window. There were other things, needless to say – eg, subs, the line-up, some poor performances – but our crack TFG recruitment team let us down badly over the summer with regard to incoming.

What I do know is that we supposedly splashed out (take your pick) €35M, €30M, £27M before add-ons, or an initial €32M with add-ons, to sign Barry. I’m getting teary now. Gareth Barry cost £2M in 2014.

It all boils down to recruitment… Can I change my C+ to a C?

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Dave Abrahams
1 Posted 27/10/2025 at 12:33:55
Regarding your last line, Paul, how would you change your C+ based on the nine league games played this season?
Mike Allison
2 Posted 27/10/2025 at 12:45:02
I think it's worth pointing out that our recruiting team wasn't in place in time for the last window. Planning for next summer's window should have started on 2 September, so I think we'll have an idea of their real worth in about a year's time.

As it is, this summer was always going to be strange, with only 12 senior players under contract at one point. With this in mind, I thought they did a very good job bringing in genuine quality. I was surprised at the lack of stop-gap Bosman transfers, but the 1-year deals for Coleman, Gueye and Keane probably played that role.

I think our problem is that we're struggling to create and score goals, yet we leave three creative players on the bench for nearly every game and sold off a young striking option with potential.

The ‘broken record' here is that Dibling, McNeil and Alcaraz should be on the pitch far more often, providing a different threat, fresh legs and rest for other players. Dewsbury-Hall should play in the deeper role more often, Gana can't play every minute and we'll create more with Garner at right-back than O'Brien.

We have a much better squad than we had last season, but they're being poorly managed by an overly cautious manager unwilling to try different things.

Dennis Stevens
3 Posted 27/10/2025 at 12:58:24
Is it just recruitment, or is it also how the squad we now have is managed?

Considering that Barry seems rather like a (hopeful?) upgrade on Chermiti, I'm surprised that greater effort wasn't made to keep hold of Calvert-Lewin -- if only for a couple more seasons.

I also assume that the right-back position was not prioritised as much as expected on the basis that Coleman and Patterson may actually play some matches now and again, so that we don't have to constantly use other players out of position.

Kieran Kinsella
4 Posted 27/10/2025 at 13:33:16
I think the recruitment had several flaws. One being Dewsbury-Hall. He seems like one of those players who is "pretty good and available" so we sign him even though we don't really need him.

Alcaraz has been inconsistent this season but, when playing well, offers more creativity and goals. Last season in that Number 10 role we had Alcaraz, who was in form at the time, or Doucoure, who was a headless chicken but had a knack for scoring goals.

Now we have Dewsbury-Hall in front of Garner and Gana -- a trio that offer very little in terms of assists or goals.

So why did we spend a big chunk of our budget on a guy we didn't need who seems to be selected because he is a bigger name than others in the squad?

Then there is the striker issue. There's no point wasting money on sub par players. If you can't get what you want, you don't have to spend for spending sake.

Chermiti couldn't have offered less than Barry has this season. Yet we spent double our Chermitti money to replace him with Barry.

Now, Moyes concedes we need a striker. Well we'd have £10M more towards that aim if we hadn't made that pointless switch.

Meanwhile, we decided right-back wasn't a priority as we can "manage" with O'Brien or Garner out of position. Well, if we had brought in a competent if not great right-back, we'd have those guys available to play in their actual positions when we have problems (eg, Branthwaite injured, Gana about to head to the Afcon).

We'd also have a more balanced looking side. But instead we blew money on buying a striker for the sake of it. And now Moyes is publicly stating that we need a striker, two things will happen in January or next summer:

1. We will not be able to offload Barry and Beto for any kind of fee as aside from the obvious lack of goals, the manager has publicly inferred they're no good.

2. Having wasted money on them, we have less money left to try and find anyone better. So we may bring in Jamie Cureton aged 50 who scored this weekend in the non-league, or some other "striker" on the cheap who will add nothing.

Eric Myles
5 Posted 27/10/2025 at 14:14:10
Mike #2, "The ‘broken record' here is that Dibling, McNeil and Alcaraz should be on the pitch far more often"

Yet when they started against Wolves they were rubbish and hooked at 45 minutes and 60 minutes, and we improved immensely when they were gone.

Kieran, does this Cureton bloke track back?

Sam Hoare
6 Posted 27/10/2025 at 14:14:49
I was going to write a similar article and may still. I voiced some doubts over the summer and think a C+ looks about right. That could be a B- if Moyes had afforded some more opportunities to the likes of Dibling, Rohl, Aznou, Barry etc but then none of them (bar Rohl perhaps) has really shone in the time they have had.

As the OP says, getting Dewsbury-Hall and Grealish when we already had Ndiaye and Alacarz for those positions felt like strange thinking and not getting a more dynamic right-back was borderline negligence.

The team still lacks a proper Number 6 and we are creating very little through the middle of the pitch with a very heavy reliance on Grealish and Ndiaye. Barry may yet come good but it's been a disappointing lack of impact so far.

And the Branthwaite injury hurts all the more because our 3rd choice centre-back is needed at right-back and our 4th choice (although playing well) does not allow us to play a higher line that brought some more defensive stability last season.

The recruitment wasn't great but I'm not sure it's quite as bad as Moyes is making it look. Still early days for the likes of Dibling, Aznou, Röhl and Barry who will hopefully go on to prove their worth at some point.

Daniel A Johnson
7 Posted 27/10/2025 at 16:56:17
Our recruitment has been diabolical. We've bought players who aren't ready for the Premier League when we need them now.

Look at Sunderland's recruitment: quality all over the team front and back, and signing Xhaka was a masterstroke.

Right now, our tactical plan is to get the ball to Grealish and Ndiaye. That's been well and truly sussed.

Tony Abrahams
8 Posted 27/10/2025 at 17:10:49
I couldn't agree more with you, Mike, about that broken record, mate.

The biggest mistake since Moyes returned was his judgement in that cup tie at Wolves. It makes me feel nauseous when people expect six players to just come into the team and play with fluidity.

Of course we were going to improve when the players who weren't rusty were introduced, Eric, just like we would improve if the players that Mike mentioned were given more opportunities and minutes than they are currently being given.

Some players get better when they don't play... and some, like Dwight McNeil, who has scored some very good goals in blue, are suddenly not good enough because Everton have signed a couple of allegedly better players.

Football being a squad game doesn't really look like this applies at Everton right now and it's frustrating the life out of me.

Ryan Holroyd
9 Posted 27/10/2025 at 17:25:25
You can't give players half an hour here or 45 minutes there and expect them to be ready. Then drag them off if they've not played very well. It's absolutely crazy.

Is say playing Aznou going to be that much worse than playing Mykolenko?


Conor McCourt
10 Posted 27/10/2025 at 17:33:32
Not a bad article, thanks, Paul.

I do however think you should be really worried about Arsenal. That striker they bought has only scored 1 Premier League goal in his last 7. His other goals came in one game. I do hope Arteta can keep them up.

While it is not fashionable to say anything good about our new striker, he made 2 little movements which were top class. On both occasions, he broke the line of a compact Spurs defence we had failed to penetrate since they scored.

The first Dewsbury-Hall had to play a little 3-yard pass and he was straight in on goal with only the keeper to beat. We may have learnt more as those were the chances he was gobbling up last season.

Our Number 10, who is supposed to be our chief creator, duly passed the ball like a centre-back, straight into the goalie's hands, and this at 2-0 with plenty on the clock.

Incidentally, are they called Number 10s because you need to have 10 of them? Just wondering...

The other would have required a quality ball that perhaps only Garner would have had the ability and vision to hit but I liked that he lost Danso and no surprise we passed it sideways in any eventuality.

However, I was impressed with him and last night was the first time he impacted the game from the bench (Brighton game from the start when crucial to our win). He showed for the first time that he got up to the speed of the game and handled the physicality of the Spurs defenders.

I also feel, Paul, it's difficult to judge the squad on how Moyes is currently using it. Their job is slightly different in that they have to mould the squad for any eventuality, meaning that the manager should get a say on the players who he wants, but should have a mixture of experience and youth. If a manager becomes unwell, gets a better offer, or gets sacked, then the new incumbent with different ideas has the tools to work with.

From a recruitment point of view, we have a proven Premier League striker with 7 goals in half a season with this manager, a hot young prospect who has excelled with every step up he has taken, and a player in Ndiaye who has scored double figures in both goals and assists in only 48 games when used as a striker.

They have stocked up other areas of the pitch, namely midfield, to give flexibility. Grealish as a Number 10 or wide player. Ndiaye anywhere across the front. Alcaraz and Dewsbury-Hall in a midfield three, Garner at right-back, McNeil as a wide player or left-wingback.

For example, Moyes only stumbled on Ndiaye as a right winger after the Leeds debacle as he played Charly Alcaraz right-wing when it seemed obvious to play the Senegalese there as there was no one else.

I doubt the recruitment team would have expected to have seen so little of Dibling, hence Moyes's public support of how well he's doing but that he hadn't fully settled yet. Probably keeping the owners sweet as much as the player or the public.

Most of the deficiencies posters have highlighted within the team playing regularly are in fact catered for within the squad that the recruitment team have assembled.

Mike Allison
11 Posted 27/10/2025 at 18:07:02
Tony and Eric, yes - their failure to perform at Wolves can be partly blamed on lack of match fitness through not being on the pitch in the previous games. Chucking them all in at once was then very unlikely to work.

We're now 2½ months into the season and have three decent players who have barely played any football. This is simply poor management. Rotate the starting XI, use 4-5 subs a game, and plan to finish with a strong XI of match-fit players.

Andy Crooks
12 Posted 27/10/2025 at 18:08:13
Barry must start ahead of Beto in every game and stay on.

He might turn out to be a decent striker. Beto isn't.

Ernie Baywood
13 Posted 27/10/2025 at 18:45:50
I don't agree at all with the premise that we've bought for the future when we needed them now.

We only need players now if the assumption is that we should be challenging. How likely is it that one window turns us from asset stripping, anti-football, relegation candidates into challengers?

This is a long-term plan to be a decent, sustainable football club. Buy young, hopefully recoup our outlay where we make mistakes, and big money or long-term playing benefit where we get it right.

We could have a better team right now if we went for a load of 30-year-olds. But we'd have little future once they're sitting on the bench at 32 on high wages and we can't afford replacements. And we still wouldn't be challenging for anything meaningful with the kind of spend we made.

Our opponents on Sunday were able to call Richarlison off the bench. That's the guy who was one of our best players that we were forced to sell. There's the difference in where these two clubs have been for the last decade.

If we're ever becoming relevant again, this is the approach to take. We just need to get more transfers right than wrong.

Robert Tressell
14 Posted 27/10/2025 at 18:59:58
We didn't spend a lot of money on any individual player this summer -- and were required by crappy circumstances to sign a lot of players. I don't think any individual player bought looks like a bad signing (at least yet) and in many respects it is encouraging that we have brought in (bar Grealish) players who can be with the squad as it develops over the next 5 and even 10 years.

That said the approach was plainly weird.

We overloaded on central midfield players.

We bought inverted wingers but no overlapping full backs to provide width.

We brought in Grealish when he plays in the same position as our best player Ndiaye.

It is a repeat of the same daft use of a decent kitty when Moshiri first took over.

Once more we were left predictably narrow and slow -- something made much worse by Branthwaite's injury -- which drags the defensive line back.

Martinez's inspired recruitment and player development didn't just involve buying Lukaku. It was about creating a side that could attack when in possession and on the counter through width, pace and technical ability.

We score quite well on technical ability now but it is all trying to operate in the same or similar spaces with no width or pace to really hurt opponents.

If we sign a wing forward of pace and a right-back in January, then it all falls into place -- but without that, it will be a hard season.

Tony Abrahams
15 Posted 27/10/2025 at 19:01:41
It's just funny that the only players that we signed in the summer who are actually getting a game are the older experienced footballers... because the manager must obviously trust them?
Kunal Desai
16 Posted 27/10/2025 at 19:03:18
Moyes's demeanour seemed a happier one when he returned to the club last season.

The trip to the US where he called out the lack of signings, I wonder if that has done him no favours and all is now not well with him Kinnear and the recruitment team?

I just wonder if all is well behind the scenes.

Anthony Hawkins
17 Posted 27/10/2025 at 21:43:14
After 9 games with the team available to field, C+ would look a reasonable mark.

Consider if a fully fit Branthwaite was available, which I imagine everyone thought he might be by now. He significantly changes the quality on the pitch and how the team performs. Keane has played well, but he's not optimal Branthwaite quality or a balanced pairing with Tarkowski.

Talking of Tarkowski, who would have anticipated his dip in form? Maybe the dubious handball calls against him have dented his confidence? Maybe he's on the decline... or maybe he's missing his solid and dependable partner?

Whatever the answer, our back four look more vulnerable than last season.

If, and it's a big if, our back four remained the same as last season and the midfield was and has been improved, that would have left the striker as the main concern. To me, that's the role that was screwed up in the summer window.

I don't see Barry or Beto reaching double figures -- no matter how many balls are played into them or how many crosses put into the box. At present, they are just another body on the pitch and I'm pretty sure any one of the squad could do an equal or better job.

I hope beyond hope that one or both come good and find their scoring boots, but I'm just not seeing it. We lamented Calvert-Lewin's lack of fitness and then lack of effort, but these two are somehow almost worse. Maybe it was the expectation that one of them would provide the goods as they had to be better than Calvert-Lewin, right?

With a bit more good fortune for Branthwaite, I think we'd start seeing more cohesion for the most part, just a lack of ability to put the ball in the back of the net, which would have been a B rather than a C+ mark.

Conor McCourt
18 Posted 27/10/2025 at 21:58:48
Robert, you don't think a team of:-

Pickford
Garner O'Brien Branthwaite Aznou
Dibling Röhl Gana Ndiaye
Grealish (as a Number 10)
Barry

contains the qualities that you want? Without screwing up PSR, I doubt they could do much better within the confines necessary.

You could sub Gana for Dewsbury-Hall but I don't think he can play there... though Moyes will have insisted on him and suggested he can. I doubt they would have paid that for a 27-year-old for 2-3 seasons with no likely sell-on.

You suggested Mukiele, like me, but he isn't exactly that modern full-back you crave and is probably why he has been used mostly as a centre-back, where he has done really well.

Robert Tressell
19 Posted 27/10/2025 at 22:25:08
Conor #18, the shape is better certainly but still lacks pace for a 4-2-3-1. All of Grealish, Ndiaye and Dibling come to the ball rather than run in behind. They are playmakers, not wing forwards.

So it still lacks the sort of penetration you get from a proper wing forward which we still don't have in the squad (like a Salah, Mbeumo or Semenyo).

The other flaws are:

- it robs us of our best midfielder (by playing him at right-back). In theory, we could play Patterson... but a series of managers seem to have concluded he is crap.

- no one knows whether Aznou is any good (he's returning from injury and may need another loan).

- Branthwaite is injured so we have to use one of Keane or Tarkowski presumably.

So like I say, a strange window which hinders our play. It's not like another manager could come in and just “fix it”.

I agree btw that Dewsbury-Hall cannot player deeper (or wide as some -- not you, I don't think -- have suggested). He operates as the more advanced of a trio in a central 3 but not as a Number 10.

That's about it. He's just not very good in other positions and possibly even a downgrade on the less talented Doucoure. Although he started quite brightly, I am not convinced we needed him. I think Alcaraz has more to offer from the same sort of position.

The money would have been better spent at right-back. Which allows Garner and O'Brien to play where they belong. Needn't have been Mukiele (just an example); there is no shortage of material upgrades.

Conor McCourt
20 Posted 27/10/2025 at 23:09:49
Robert, I am not suggesting it's everything you want but I'm talking purely on assessing TFG or their recruitment team.

They don't know Branthwaite is out for over a month or two.

Gana's form this season doesn't count as they wouldn't have forecasted his drop off. Rohl gives that technical quality as does Grealish. The German might be our best midfielder.

They obviously rate Aznou or they wouldn't have paid so much (relative to contract length).

Both full backs can overlap the widemen though aren't going to run in behind but are quick with the ball.

My point is that TFG needed a marquee signing so paid £12M for Grealish. £27M at the behest of their manager.

To me, there seems clear strategy and not a huge amount to go round with the rest. Dibling I know will be the best value we have had in years, even if we see it more centrally, so I would prefer him than some player with your ideal attributes who turns out to be the next Philogene.

I think we will look back at this window favourably. I know you have spoken about needing all these attributes to score goals. The last team we had that scored a few:

Digne Keane Mina Coleman James Allan Doucoure Sigurdsson Richarlison Calvert-Lewin.

Virtually no pace throughout that team.

Mark Wynne
21 Posted 27/10/2025 at 23:52:53
Moyes hasn't changed from the dour, pedantic, single-minded curmudgeon that left us to go to Man Utd, so I am not surprised that he sets Everton up in home ties against teams in the bottom half like we are playing away at the Bernabeu.

The way he neglects to use the bench until the 88th minute or doesn't use it at all because players "aren't ready for the Premier League" or some such is a constant frustration to many.

Back to the point, we never went in for a full-back in the last window, which I said at the time was criminal. It now leaves our back four one tweak away from Jimmy Garner filling in at full-back. He's either responsible for the signings we got, or is obstinately ignoring the ones he was given, because he doesn't trust them, they're not 38 or somehow they're not “Moyes” players.

If he was any sort of coach, he would be improving the players, or switching the system to suit the ones he has. He doesn't show any sign of being able to adapt and is constantly forcing square pegs into round holes, like playing lads out wide when they excel in the middle for instance.

I never wanted him back and frankly, for the last couple of years in his first stint, I couldn't wait for him to move on. Bournemouth, Brentford and Palace seem to have found exciting coaches with new ideas. We got rid of Dyche and ended up with Moyes. Fuck me.

Paul Griffiths
22 Posted 28/10/2025 at 05:03:54
Hi Mike (2),

With respect, I think that your first sentence is an indictment, not an excuse.

A hugely important window and we seemingly allowed two apparently key figures join us after it shut. That does not sound like calculating and strong-arm business management to me.

Sorry Mike, this last window is not, I feel, some sort of training run for next year or some sort of free hit as not everything was in place. It was far too important for that and we have the right to sharply criticize TFG and how they handled recruitment over the summer.

But as I said Mike, let's see what happens in January and next summer. You mention only the summer window, but January is not far away and that will be the second time for us to judge our recruitment team, apparently now with a couple of crack recruiters on board.

You might know the answer to this, Mike, but I've spent some time looking for confirmation that they have in fact joined us without any luck. It would be lovely if you or someone else can confirm that they are at Finch Farm.

Paul Griffiths
23 Posted 28/10/2025 at 06:01:33
Dave Abrahams1: 'Regarding your last line, Paul, how would you change your C+ based on the nine league games played this season?'

And the recruitment team have a rather large hand in your question, Dave.

If we take on board results and performances so far, we're looking at C- mate. I wish it were better.

I'm trying to leave Moyes out of this, but I think that he is a tad unhappy on the recruitment front but we do not know the dynamics. I would love to know his exact involvement over the summer.

Regardless, Dave, Moyes did a bad job -- selection, set-up, subs, responding to the game -- on Sunday, and, of course, the chair of my History Department at the Uni is a Spud born in Walthamstow.

Michael Kenrick
24 Posted 28/10/2025 at 08:43:46
Mark,

A lot of people got upset with me when I dared to restate my dislike of Moyes on his reappointment as Everton manager.

Your post @21 captures and describes my feelings then and now to a tee.

Chris James
25 Posted 28/10/2025 at 09:35:00
Not sure about broken window, but this site is increasingly sounding like a broken record!

So... facts.

1. We did buy a striker... just turns out Barry isn't (so far) good enough. Nor is Beto, sadly, so we now likely need another one. Ideally a Premier League proven one.

There are of course a lot of Premier League (and European) clubs looking for top strikers, and not many have been successful. Of the strikers signed this summer, Woltemade, Ekitike and Kroupi Jr are looking the business.

But so far, not a lot of others are really smashing them in -- and I include big money signings like Gyökeres, Isak and Sesko plus Calvert-Lewin and Igor Jesus in that. Joao Pedro has gone off the boil also after a great start.

2. We did also try to buy a full-back, the Fulham lad almost came, but then did a volte-face.

I suspect, over and above these, we were talking to many other players to lure them in, but they have to be able to be a) affordable and b) wanting to sign for us in order to get the job done.

We don't have European football, not a realistic chance at a title challenge, so we're just 1 of 20 offering the promised land of the Premier League -- and we're far from the top payers!

We also had to cover for an exodus of midfielders (which I think we did pretty well). Dewsbury-Hall and Grealish are both class acts right now who have improved the quality of the side, as is Alcaraz; Dibling is a very strong prospect and Röhl an interesting punt. Re-signing Gueye was also good business. I'd also file Aznou (a full-back - cough) under 'punt' territory.

For me the window was one of the better ones in recent years, so I'd put it a solid B.

Could we do with another full-back / wing-back? -- absolutely yes.

Do we need another striker? Yes, but we're not alone in that.
Hopefully these 2 positions will be top focuses in January.

In the meantime, we just obviously need to find ways to make the best of what we have and start scoring again!

Grant Rorrison
26 Posted 28/10/2025 at 10:17:34
Conor 20.

"I think we will look back at this window favourably."

Is that because Moyes is going to get sacked because of it?

Robert Tressell
27 Posted 28/10/2025 at 10:18:29
Conor @20, the Ancelotti team you describe which scored goals had:

- pace and running in behind of Calvert-Lewin and Richarlison

- it had width through Digne, Coleman and (I think) Sidibe

- it had pace / mobility at centre-back in Mina and Godfrey

- it had quality in Sigurdsson and Rodriguez (and Bernard and Iwobi)

That is a much better balance than what we have now. It is no surprise we scored more goals.

Mike Allison
28 Posted 28/10/2025 at 10:21:51
Hi Paul, 22, yes - you can say it is an indictment of TFG, they are the club ownership and management. However, we have no idea yet if they've got the right people eventually rather than the wrong ones quickly. Hopefully this is the case.

My point really was that we can't judge the recruitment team yet as the summer business wasn't done by the long-term recruitment team. It was, presumably, Moyes-led along with the group of people that we had managed to cobble together in time.

Even Moyes was only appointed in January, so the long-term planning won't have been in place the way it should be. With all that in mind, I think the recruitment was okay, but it's hard to tell so far.

My key point remains that we're not making the most of what we have. We could be using more good players more often, Moyes is choosing not to.

TFG is the club ownership and management, and may be due...

Robert Tressell
29 Posted 28/10/2025 at 10:31:04
Chris #25,

I think Dewsbury-Hall is quite a good technical player but he's shown nothing yet to say he's a class act. Neat and tidy, yes, but class act? No. You could argue Doucoure offered more despite some glaring flaws. He also arguably offers less than Alcaraz.

I also think that we could realistically have signed anyone other than those bought by the traditional rich 6, Newcastle and Forest.

It was weird recruitment -- but can be fixed with a wing forward of pace and a full-back or two.

Dave Abrahams
30 Posted 28/10/2025 at 11:26:36
Paul (23)

Thanks for your reply, I'm not an admirer of Moyes, never was once I understood how he operated, and I think he is too old to change. I haven't a clue who was in charge of the transfer deals during the summer and I will wait and see how they turn out; not impressed up to now but it's early days.

I think Moyes has made a few poor decisions this season on team selections, substitutions and style so I thought you might have even reached the first vowel with your marks.

I do sympathise with you having to face the chair of your history department after Saturday's display; mind you, he was in your position when we beat Spurs at Goodison earlier this year — very narrowly in the end!

Ray Robinson
31 Posted 28/10/2025 at 12:00:40
Robert #27.

The Ancelotti team had more potential goal scorers than now but it was hardly free scoring.

In the 20-21 season, we had 14 goals after the first 5 league matches and then managed just 33 in the next 33. Some of the football was turgid. On paper, he had a much better team but I'll wager we score as many goals this season as then.

Robert Tressell
32 Posted 28/10/2025 at 12:49:31
Ray # 31, I agree but I was responding to Conor.

I think it makes more sense to look at the Martinez team as the best balanced and best equipped to play fast attacking football. That is the last time we've had a team that was decently assembled. Martinez, I think, would have overseen a very different transfer window for us.

As I have said earlier, I don't think any of the new players are bad as such (they may or may not prove to be over time) but the balance is very poor and needs fixing.

Ian Bennett
33 Posted 28/10/2025 at 14:12:04
He inherited a decent base, and bought players that made a difference straight away in Barry, McCarthy, Lukaku and Deulofeu. The style and points is as good as its been for decades.

The good base was key in that statement. Back 5 were good, as were the wingers, and he had John Stones and Ross Barkley to add to the mix.

Unfortunately the recruitment after that was less impressive. A long list of players that vastly inferior to the rest of the squad, brought in for big dough. Back then there players about that could have been picked up like Maguire, Robertson from Hull, Van Dijk from Celtic, and plenty of others that were around for decent fees. Sadly that opportunity was missed.

Alcaraz
Kone
Lennon
Besic
Traore
McGeady
Funes Mori
Niasse
Tarashaj
Atsu
Robles

David Bromwell
34 Posted 28/10/2025 at 15:18:21
Whilst things are far from perfect right now, given that we had so many players out of contract at the end of the last season, I think we now have the best squad of players that we have had for some time. However, as we have seen, that has not always meant that we have had the most effective 11 players on the pitch.

To begin, the injury to Branthwaite has been a big loss, notably because we miss his pace at the back and his ability to play on the left. Also, the misfiring centre-forwards means we are not scoring the number of goals our approach play deserves.

Finally, the failure to secure a right-back has left us vulnerable and is a situation which should be resolved in January.

So if the playing squad is better, how can we improve the performance of our starting 11? Sadly, there are not too many options, but I would start with the following...

Accept that Mykolenko is a good defender, but poor in an offensive situation, so ensure that he remains in defence as cover for our current slower and less mobile defenders. Start by giving Röhl much more game time, he looks a real prospect and will need to cover for Gana when he is away on international duty in January.

Use Dewsbury-Hall as cover for Grealish, I believe they are very similar type players, and in his position play Alcaraz, simply because he is more likely to score goals.

That leaves just one further decision: who to play centre-forward? So far, despite all his honest endeavours, it's just not working for Beto and he certainly isn't fitting in well with his colleagues. So I think we have to start with Barry, who at least looks like he can link up with his teammates.

So, all in all, just a couple of minor tweaks, given that we don't have too many options, but clearly we need to stiffen the defence and improve our goalscoring before we find ourselves in more trouble.

Robert Tressell
35 Posted 28/10/2025 at 16:00:07
I think we could play quite an effective 3-4-3 with:

Back 3: O'Brien Keane Mykolenko
Central midfield: Rohl Gueye
Wing backs: Garner and McNeil (or Aznou)
Attacking trio: Grealish Barry Ndiaye

That looks well-balanced to me.

Ian Jones
36 Posted 28/10/2025 at 17:52:45
We'll be using some of the least played members of the squad earlier than January because the Africa Nations Cup starts 21 Dec.
Mike Gaynes
37 Posted 28/10/2025 at 18:49:44
Mike #2 and #28, best points of the thread. Our new CEO had only been on the job for a couple of months, and the recruiting honchos weren't even on board yet.

(I don't consider that an "indictment" -- I consider it competent corporate strategy to bring in the people you really want, even if you have to wait a few months for them, rather than settling for less-desirable execs just because they were immediately available.)

So we weren't working off some sort of strategic 5-year plan, we were filling a dozen open holes in a clinically dead squad. And facing another spiral back into the depths if we didn't get it right.

From my perspective, we got it right. What I considered to be the first of a minimum three-window process went exceptionally well IMO.

We came out with what I had most hoped for -- a stabilized squad, one that would stay well clear of the relegation terrors of the past four seasons. We have some young talent. We have a professional bench. We can put a real Premier League side on the pitch every week. We're not a mess anymore.

Obviously we have a long way to go to be truly Everton again. We will need reinforcements across the backline, goalscoring up top, some pace up the flanks (still our biggest weakness) and, before challenging for a place in Europe, a new manager.

But that window has clearly gotten us beyond the reach of the mire, and I think anybody giving it a C+ (or worse) is hamstrung by some wildly overoptimistic expectations, of speed if not of accomplishment.

We're finally out of first gear. The process of getting to overdrive will take time and patience. But I'd say that on 28 October 2027 our engines will be giving off an entirely different sound.

Kevin Molloy
38 Posted 28/10/2025 at 19:06:56
I think it's way too early to judge. it takes some players a lot longer to start showing their potential. Look at Ndiaye, immediate. But then there's Garner, who's only really started playing properly this season.

When we bought Baines, I don't think he'd played a game at this point in his first season. Moyes knows what he's doing on transfers, even the duds he'll move on for decent money.

The problem is our squad was down to bare bones, and cost £60-70m just to replace our free transfers. People have the impression we've been out spending and should now be reaping the rewards, but you can't sort the problems we'd got into by one window.

We overachieved last season, with those away wins in my view. And be honest, how would you have thought we would fare in the summer if we had had to play Michael Keane in every game?

The signings we have made are not for right now, they are for the future. Barry and Dibling will be much better a year from now. They are both talented players.

Having said that, we are definitely in a bit of a rut at the moment, but I think moving Alcaraz to Number 10 to pair with Beto, and giving Röhl more game time should give us a bit more bite going forwards.

Ian Bennett
39 Posted 28/10/2025 at 19:37:56
Robert 35 - dropping the captain is pretty ballsy, and with no organiser I'd fear that back 3 would be conceding fairly regularly. Those players are certainly in close proximity when we do concede currently. Not great defenders, making one less, would create more spaces for the opposition.

I don't think McNeil is a left-wingback. Asking him to cover a greater distance than he does at left wing would expose his running power, and leave the left centre-back with a lot to do. I think Aznou would be out of his depth from what I've seen so far.

For the time being, I think 4-3-3, and this appears the most technical we've got. Alcaraz for Dewsbury-Hall maybe:

Pickford
Garner Tarkowski Keane Mykolenko
Gana Röhl Dewsbury-Hall
Ndiaye Barry Grealish

Paul Griffiths
40 Posted 29/10/2025 at 06:17:52
Mike Gaynes, 37, can you help us out here and confirm that the two additions to the recruitment team that you told us would be in place in September are now actually with us.

I've asked this question multiple times now and drawn only silence, but you seem to have more knowledge and a particular faith in TFG that makes you better placed to answer this question.

Any information you can provide would be nice and might make some folk feel better about the future.

Michael Kenrick
41 Posted 29/10/2025 at 09:53:51
Paul,

Seems to me that the last piece of the TFG Leadership puzzle did not get put in place until mid-October when Nick Cox finally took up his position as Technical Director. So it's unlikely he had much of a part to play in any recruitment work done in the last transfer window...

But please rest assured: he is now in place and the four-man Leadership Team is complete:

Nick Cox, Technical Director
James Smith, Director of Scouting and Recruitment
Nick Hammond, Head of Player Trading
Chris Howarth, Head of Football Strategy & Analytics

They of course operate under new CEO Angus Kinnear, who is no doubt ably assisted by new CFO Martyn Hawkins. Let's see how they all do in the fullness of time...

Dave Abrahams
42 Posted 29/10/2025 at 10:04:00
Mike (37),

Are you saying in October 2025, which is really where we are, that you are convinced we out of any trouble regarding a battle at the bottom of the league and you are happy with the performances of this season?

Performances, not results... and if we continue the way we are playing, we will stay away from that battle at the bottom?

Alan McGuffog
43 Posted 29/10/2025 at 10:52:50
Imagine what Catterick could have achieved in the 1960s if he'd had a six-man team behind him. Someone could have driven him to Scotland after winning the league in 63 to sign Sandy.

Dear God!

Mike Gaynes
44 Posted 29/10/2025 at 17:03:51
Thanks, Michael #41, you beat me to it. The Athletic reported about two weeks ago that Cox, the last new exec to arrive, had just planted himself in his office chair. (Smith had been on board since September 1, but I've read nothing about the reason for the delay on Cox's arrival from Man United.)

There are still a bunch of jobs to fill. Cox needs to hire a head of academy coaching, and a new head of academy recruitment to replace James Vaughan (who turned to the dark side and became an agent). And Smith must fill in a much-depleted scouting team.

Plus, for anybody interested, the club is hiring 500 stewards.

Dave #42, yes, no and yes.

Yes, I believe we are past any concerns about the bottom three. No, I am not satisfied with the quality of our performances. Yes, assuming we continue to put in the consistent effort we have shown in all but the Leeds game, we will be well away from the relegation quagmire.

Dave Abrahams
45 Posted 29/10/2025 at 18:51:26
Mike (44),

Fair enough... except I think consistent effort covers every game and I haven't seen in that v Leeds, Liverpool, Brighton, Crystal Palace and West Ham and they were not very inspiring v Spurs on Sunday.

Nevertheless, I hope you are correct about being well away from the relegation quagmire.

Paul Griffiths
46 Posted 30/10/2025 at 05:22:26
Thanks Michael K, 41.

Despite Mr Gaynes's patriotic effusiveness, it still seems bizarre that these corporate sharks would be content to push back two essential appointments to after the window shut.

It was not a great window and many of us will not feel the same optimistic flush as our TFG advocate. But, as you say MK, the only wise way is to wait and see how the new crack team do in January and over the summer.

I hope they succeed. But to do so they will need funds, and I suspect that I am not alone in saying that this big bollocks corporate giant did not give us the backing we needed over the summer.

Because of the C+ window, Dave Abrahams, as ever, talks sense, we will most likely have to pay over the odds in January for the striker, right-back, and left-back that we sorely need. It will not be a surprise to me if we get none of them.

Worrying, because there is no balance at present in our team and performances have not been reassuring for the most part. Our squad depth is thin compared to most others. I'm looking quite enviously at the recruitment of such traditional top-6 teams as Brentford, Bournemouth, and Sunderland at the moment.

Mike Gaynes
47 Posted 30/10/2025 at 17:06:47
Patriotic effusiveness? Where exactly did I bring up national origin?

No, my observation is based on 30 years of professional interaction with corporate owners and CEOs. They take the long view when they build an executive team. They identify and hire people with top resumes who fit their strategic goals and corporate structure.

And if it seems "bizarre" to the academic Mr. Griffiths that a billionaire running an international conglomerate would not prioritize GET HIM IN BEFORE THE WINDOW CLOSES as a qualification for a key executive, so be it.

As to whether the "big bollocks corporate giant" failed to provide the financial backing required, none of us has any way of knowing whether penuriousness or PSR restrictions were the reason for our not splashing huge cash for top players, but I'd be interested to see Mr. Griffiths cite specific, difference-making players we should or could have gotten if we could or would have spent more.

(If only we had outbid the RS for Isak at £125 million, Wirtz at £116 million or Kerkez at £40 million, eh?)

Yes, our squad is unbalanced and in some areas thin, but both circumstances are a whole lot better than they were before the window. What's bizarre to me is that some here apparently expected that everything that was wrong with the squad would be fixed in one window.

Andrew Ellams
48 Posted 30/10/2025 at 17:35:30
Paul @ 46, I'll be shocked if we do anything more than loan business in January and even then a striker at most.
Liam Mogan
49 Posted 30/10/2025 at 18:55:19
No one with any sense splashes the cash in the January window and I doubt we will.

We have bought some shite in previous ones for inflated prices -- Cenk Tosun, Walcott, Schneiderlin, Patterson, Niasse to name a few off the top of my head.

Also the OP is a bit snide in my view, looking to score points against other genuinely decent posters. Unnecessary.

Ian Bennett
50 Posted 30/10/2025 at 19:03:37
Think we signed John Stones in a January window, Arteta, Danny Fernandes, Pienaar?
James Hughes
51 Posted 30/10/2025 at 19:08:53
It could always be worse: we could have signed Delap.

He has been sent off twice and had a hamstring injury.

John Burns
52 Posted 30/10/2025 at 19:08:54
Mike (47), you make a compelling argument for a successful conglomerate wishing to act like a successful conglomerate. This is all new to us. We are simply not used to a long term strategy. Hence the confusion, questioning and suspicion.

I include myself in the latter group, as despite the summer investment by the new owners, all I see is a team that finished 13th last season currently skulking in 14th position, and again out of a cup competition before Christmas.

Most of us just see the new restaurant on the Dock Road serving the same old tripe.

Liam Mogan
53 Posted 30/10/2025 at 19:12:05
Ian 50 -- Pienaar joined in the summer of 2007 on loan, not in January. Arteta on loan. Fernandes on loan. John Stones for £3M and didn't start a game until the following season.

My post was about spending big money in January, not loans or smaller fees for younger players. So for the 4 players you mention, Ian, we paid out very little in January. Or, in the case of Pienaar, nothing.

Mike Gaynes
54 Posted 30/10/2025 at 21:42:48
John #52, just gotta look at the RS if you can stand to do it. As I just pointed out in another thread, 15 years ago the squalling Yanks Hicks and Gillette had them skidding towards bankruptcy and out of Europe.

The FSG conglomerate bought 'em, brought in quality executives with a long-term plan, and slooooowly rebuilt. And they now have a club that's worth 18 times what they paid for it.

Based on what they've done at AS Roma, there's not a doubt in my mind that TFG will attempt to achieve the same thing with us in much the same way. Slow structure, slow rebuild. We can only hope they're as good at it as FSG.


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