Bramley-Moore Dock basin cleared and sealed

Isn't there something in the Good Book about building on sand 🤔 ?

I heard from a friend working on the project that along with all the fish, they encountered a surprisingly large population of rats at the site.

After a detailed consultation period, a team of wildlife experts recommended that the rats should be integrated into an area which already has a large thriving population of similar vermin

Thankfully the rats will not have to move too far, as the wildlife experts have found that the largest population of vermin in Western Europe is actually just a few miles away at Anfield Road.

Brian, You just couldn't resist could you? Open goal, help yourself etc. etc. LOL

Thanks for that Brian. It seems some of those rats have found mobile phones and started a group chat on WhatsApp.

I've copied and pasted your quote and sent it to them 😀😀

Actually, on a serious note for a sec, rats are a serious problem in the area with the general area derelict and the treatment works close by. Last year I sat outside the dock gates waiting to get my tyres done for half an hour in the middle of the day. During that time I must have seen over 50, bold as brass and big buggers too, in broad daylight. Last time I saw that many was when the were pulling down warehouses off Pall Mall. I think it's going to be a real problem down there for quite a while.

oh my god.
Are we sure this is such a good idea...

Fuck Christine#5
They must really have huge rats in Pall Mall...if they were pulling down warehouses!

Unless I'm missing a link, there is only an audio podcast on progress to date. I suggested to Colin Chong that EFC produce a regular video'd update on progress, as we did at the last Uni I worked for when we built a new campus. Come on Everton!

There are closed off river gates just up the way, one set form a pool. I pity any diver going in there as the crabs and congers have been living off dead things in there for years.

Brendan, haha, good one.. worth remembering though that behind Dock road are lots of really old buildings and clearing them and the rest of the dock area will take years.
Never mind that annual infection once a season of a couple of thousand.
I sense new businesses starting up..Wack-a-rat Ltd,

Bloody hell, Christine. Thanks for the heads up.
That's the last time I'm going down Pall Mall on my own!!

Where's the time lapse web cam when you need it?

Alan @ 1; that only applies to foundations in sand. The whole area...including the actual river sits on a shelf of, iirc, Butlerite Sandstone, which extends from Red Rocks by the Dee, Thurstson Hill, Rock Ferry is named for it all the way to Woolton quarry and beyond.

Just look at the cuttings from Edge Hill (where, for some reason, it is always best to get off, or so I was told when I was young, which mystified me at the time) into Lime Street, half the old city was made from it - fear not; piles (titter ye not) concrete piles will be anchored to that base.

I remember when they were dropping the old warehouses on the Albert Dock. There was so many rats running down the Dock Road, my car was skidding driving over them. Never seen anything like it, and don't wish to again.

You've just reminded me, Dale.

I didn't mention it in my post, but on my way to Lime Street Tuesday morning at some ridiculously early hour, as I approached with St John's to the left, Wetherspoons to the right (no – too early) and the Crown in front of me, there were rats everywhere scampering around. Cocky and confident little shits too. Not phased by me at all.

Sorry. Random one, but you reminded me!!!

I would love to know what plans are in place to get 52,000 in and out of Bramley-Moore Dock. I suggested a while back maybe we could use the ferries to bring people from the Wirral on a park and ferry scheme. We could maybe also have a park and ferry from Otterspool prom and maybe one from the Bootle area.

The walk from town is about 20 minutes but parking places in town on a Saturday are limited and expensive, also in autumn and winter with rain it wouldn't be a pleasant experience having to walk 20 minutes to and from the ground.

I've said it before Brian, build a mono-rail along the waterfront connected to the existing Mersey Rail stations with additional stops along the waterfront. A modern version of the "Dockers Umbrella". Futuristic with a hint of heritage. And similar to what London has done with the Docklands Light Railway (DLR) across the re-generated docks on the east of the city.

But in reality, at any stadium, there is inevitable congestion prior to and after the event. Controlled queues to get to the train platform at Wembley or Brighton. Likewise to get to the very efficient Tram system in Gelsenkirchen when I go to watch Schalke. Traffic jams on Queens Drive after a match at Goodison. You can't really get away from it.

But, to my point about how Tottenham have approached it. They have provided first class drinking and eating facilities in the stadium to encourage people to go earlier, leave later and arrive / depart at different times. No rush by the majority of the crowd to get in for Z-Cars after the final pint on County Road all at the same time. No bomb-burst of everyone trying to get away at the same time at the end.

When I got a tour of the Tottenham stadium on a business meeting the week before their first match there, the host told me, the idea was to totally change the matchday experience. And obviously, generate more direct match day revenue.

@ Danny. This is definitely the way to go.

Keep all the revenue within the club, they key is to provide first class facilities and people will go, stay there and spend there money there.

I would much rather do that than have beer spilled all over me in a sardine can pub in county road while I queue for 10mins for a crap pint.

I actually think the fan park at Goodison is an awesome idea although they are attempting a great idea without the space and facility to do it.

Providing places to eat will also encourage families to attend as they can finish watching the game and walk out and go for a meal afterwards.

This is the future of leisure and hospitality. For those who wish to just drive there and drive home immediately afterwards then that option remains.

I would like to see some real public transport infrastructure and it does need its own rail station.

I think the council, the club and the highways agency have been making perparations; but until we know what the plans are it's just guessing. I read somewhere, of a proposal to bring in a monorail version of the overhead railway but who knows?
Probably Sandhills station is going to be best for getting there by rail; but buses? Maybe they'll have busses at most major stations along the way, and pick up points throughout the city.
I think a new landing stage is a brilliant idea; but we'll have to wait and see how things develop.
Personally I'll be investing in a bloody good waterproof jacket!

Brian, 15
That was a suggestion of mine, or more a wish, that they could set up football ferries. That would be something unique.

I don't think they have set up anything as far as l know. Surely we would have heard. Controlling traffic should be high consideration. Or are we all going to rely on public transport or sitting in traffic for half an hour waiting to get out? Sandhills is going to be crazy.

Just need a pied piper type figure with daft bins with a daft grin and baseball hat to lead the rats to their spiritual home. Not far from the arkles boozer

The Arkles was my Grandad's local in his later life when he moved from Speke to Arkles Lane Brian. Always a red pub and I was there after the match Monday night shaking my head at the decorations behind the bar!

He was a Belfast born Evertonian but only lived a few doors down, so that was his pub.

Christine, I don't think the rats will be a problem. Hire Suarez and he will bring 50,000 to Anfield. Sorted!

David, I think football ferries is a great idea in principal. You could have one running from town and back and then one running from Birkenhead and back. However, the Mersey tide evidently has a very big rise and drop, so how that would work for what time the matches are, is anybody's guess! We might need scaling ladders!
As for the Pied Piper Brian, I know they're pests but surely the poor rats don't deserve such a dreadful fate!

I lived in Lisburn for 2 years and my son went to school there Brian. A Catholic with O'Neill as a surname in a predominantly Unionist town!

To be fair, no issues whatsoever. Good life experience for him, good people.

My Grandad was originally from the Antrim Road, close to the old Court house and Crumlin Road Prison.

The Arteta money must be buried even deeper than the Oak Island treasure.

Colin 28.

Fucking hilarious.

When the club releases crap like this you know there's actually no positive news on the new stadium.

All along, I have been deeply sceptical about the new stadium. Nothing has changed.

This is a club that can attempt to play most of the second half of a Premier League match without a forward. Do you really think they can raise £500M?

Get a grip Jonathan, that's embarrasing.

When the club tell you they have cleared the bottom of the dock as their updated new ground statement, that tells me there's absolutely no progress in the funding.

Jonathan, can you provide any substantiation of that?

Oh Jonathan, don't be pathetic, mate.

Be disappointed but don't be pathetic.

Martin. What I'm saying is, if there was any serious advance on the funding the club would surely share the positive news. In the absence of that, they are telling us that some odds and sods have been lifted off the dock floor.

I'm a long-standing watcher of the way the club works and that's my interpretation of what's going on. My view has never changed. I don't see the club being capable of organising a new ground. Everything the club do is substandard – as you saw on the pitch today.

Jonathan, I was told Moshiri only bought Bramley-Moore Dock because Billy Bob Kenwright told him there was sunken treasure beneath the waves. His auntie Betty told him a Spanish galleon, carrying Inca gold, sank there in 1568 and he's been looking for a mug (aka 'investor') ever since. He even got Discovery+ to film it. Kenwright will be playing the part of Buster Crabbe.

Jonathan, “When the club tell you they have cleared the bottom of the sea as their updated new ground statement, that tells me there's absolutely no progress in the funding”.

Come on then tell us what you actually know.

With all those rats about it sounds like we need to sig up a Jack Russell or two before we sign up a right back.

Jim (18) these may be the plans you've seen:

The Paddington Line

Tram route up the hill, from Lime Street to the new Knowledge Quarter. With speculative extensions out to BMD in the north and Liverpool South Parkway in the south.

An awful lot of activity going on at BMD for something that's not going to happen!! Even while we were in the Bramley Moore pub last night, there were plenty of cars being driven out of the gates, presumably by tourists having a gander inside the area, but I suspect they were more likely workers doing a bit of ovies!!

Come on Rob, course it's not going to happen just as I'm NOT gonna sail my little dinghy over the edge of the planet.
Wouldn't want to put Elvis's life in danger now would I?