Season › 2021-22 › News The Rumour Mill Juventus looking to sign Kean this summer instead Lyndon Lloyd | Thursday, 14 November 2024 38comments | Jump to last Juventus are reportedly in negotiations with Everton about signing Moise Kean on a permanent basis at the end of this season rather than wait until next year when his two-year loan spell ends. The two clubs struck a deal last summer whereby the Italians would take Kean on loan until 2023 and then sign him in a deal worth around €30m once loan fees were included. Juventus are now said to be hoping to sign the 22-year-old in the next few weeks, restructure the terms to eliminate the second loan payment and pay £20m up front, with a further £5m due once certain clauses are met. It is believed that Juve want to sell Kean on immediately and realise a transfer fee this summer rather than have him on their books for another year. Reader Comments (38) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer Mike Corcoran 1 Posted 09/05/2022 at 19:56:58 Do we have to buy our own Vaseline to seal the deal? Maybe they should just stick to the original agreement. Having us over, twice. Lyndon Lloyd 3 Posted 09/05/2022 at 20:17:27 This might work out better for us. The final terms are very similar once you account for the exchange rate and this way we get a chunk of the funds up front for investing in players this summer. Also removes any risk he suffers a really serious injury next season and the whole deal gets compromised in some way. Tony Everan 4 Posted 09/05/2022 at 20:30:53 I agree, get the money in the bank and reinvest. Frank deserves the best opportunity to strengthen the squad with quality in the summer, this advance deal will help. Ralph Basnett 5 Posted 09/05/2022 at 20:46:49 Put a sell on clause in the re-negotiations otherwise pluck em. Brian Wilkinson 7 Posted 09/05/2022 at 21:10:29 Take the money and get a sell-on clause in the deal. Jeff Armstrong 8 Posted 09/05/2022 at 21:39:07 Fishy this, Juve want to buy him and then sell him? maybe PSG want him back to bolster their squad, who knows?if we recoup our outlay though, it's bye bye and move on. Alan J Thompson 9 Posted 10/05/2022 at 05:25:07 Seems a very strange request and you have to wonder, if it is the case, if Everton have asked who Juventus have had inquiries from and, if it is the case that Juve just save the second year loan fee, then where is the advantage to Everton unless we receive part of those savings. I know we appear to be hard up but I'd have thought that agreed (guaranteed?) future income could be shown in the accounts and doesn't need to be cash at hand. Justin Doone 10 Posted 10/05/2022 at 07:49:08 You vent us... no thanks. There's nothing they can do to get out of it unless we bottle and agree to a silly deal; sounds like Moshiri all over. But getting most of our cash back is what's needed and move on. Iain Latchford 11 Posted 10/05/2022 at 07:57:01 I read that Everton will look to raise £120M from player sales this summer, with the majority of it being re-invested into the team. I guess selling Kean and Calvert-Lewin would raise around £70M. Not sure where the other £50M would come from though. I assume Mina will also go, but can't see us getting much for him with his horrendous injury history.Obviously the wage bill should also be significantly reduced, with the number of players reaching the end of their contracts. Clive Rogers 12 Posted 10/05/2022 at 11:20:09 Reports suggest Richarlison wants to leave and Pickford will be sold to raise cash. It's the high earners the club want to sell. They will be replaced by players on lower salaries to get the club out of FFP problems it's a risky business. Moshiri has obviously run out of cash. John Pickles 13 Posted 10/05/2022 at 11:53:43 The problem with selling our best players is that we waste all the money we recoup on worse ones. We have a scouting department that can't tell the difference between Thierry Henry and Lenny Henry. Justin Doone 14 Posted 10/05/2022 at 12:20:38 Ga ha ha Lenny Henry..He must be about 6ft plus, do you think he was better at the back ( of class) or upfront?The bigger the stage, the bigger the performance. I would worry he'd be another sick note though, can you imagine our own physio shouting "break a leg" ? Tony Abrahams 15 Posted 10/05/2022 at 12:26:50 I saw the picture at the top of the page and thought Juve, were in for Michael Keane for a minute, and actually wonder if he'd be suited to Italian football? Andrew Clare 16 Posted 10/05/2022 at 12:42:43 Clive,I think it's more likely that Moshiri can't launder Usmanov's money anymore.As for selling the high earners, I am all for it. Let Frank have a good kitty to have his own team. James Flynn 17 Posted 10/05/2022 at 13:10:50 We should keep in mind with Kean that, like Lookman, he simply doesn't want to play for Everton. (Unlike Besic, Tosun, and Niasse who clung to their contracts like life preservers.) Why wait another season? Make the best deal and move on. Martin Mason 18 Posted 10/05/2022 at 13:24:56 If we can carry on with current form, then I would accept keeping Pickford and Richarlison as a great summer window if we could make a couple of buys like Vitaliy Mykolenko. Selling our two best players just sends a really bad message to everybody. It says that we're little Everton again. Clive Rogers 19 Posted 10/05/2022 at 13:27:20 Andrew, no he can't. That source of money has gone. He has investments but suspect his ready cash has gone. There are strong rumours he is desperate to sell the club. Mick Roberts 20 Posted 10/05/2022 at 13:42:01 If rumours are true, Moshri is desperate to sell. Good, and quickly hopefully... Although he has shovelled money into the club, his footballing knowledge is zero. He really did come with a poison chalice. Jay Harris 21 Posted 10/05/2022 at 15:33:41 Selling your best players is a recipe for disaster especially as we have poor players in "other" key positions. Get rid of the "poor" players and get their wages off the books and use those funds to reinforce while promoting and developing some of the youth players like Branthwaite, Broadhead, Dobbin, Isaac Price, Reece Welch and Ellis Simms.Just look at Anthony Gordon as an example of what can be done but you still need your best players to help this process. Craig Harrison 22 Posted 10/05/2022 at 15:36:06 I hear Mike Ashley is looking for a club to buy. Just in time to move into the Sports Direct Arena. Will Mabon 23 Posted 10/05/2022 at 16:04:53 Craig, please stop it. What a sickening thought. Clive Rogers 24 Posted 10/05/2022 at 16:08:55 Jay, it's the best players who are on the big wages which financially can no longer be afforded. Gary Jones 25 Posted 10/05/2022 at 16:14:59 Jay @ 18 - love your points about need to get rid of the poor players and promote the youth. Playing devils advocate however, I'm not so sure the “selling your best players is a recipe for disaster†statement though. Best year we ever had in premier league era was after selling Rooney, and the shite have profited well from Coutinho, Sterling, Torres, Suarez, et al. Guess the real issue is whether you can sell at the right time, and adequately replace at a fraction of the cost. Our track record of this is utterly shit. We still haven't really replaced Lukaku, Stones or even Gueye adequately. Can we really trust Moshiri to ignore his agents, BPB to stay out of it, and Thelwell/Frank/Clement to ID the next Jota/Neves/Traores? If the answer is “yes†then sell. If the answer is “no†then stick and add youth as you say. Danny O’Neill 26 Posted 10/05/2022 at 16:30:03 I agree with Gary. Selling your best players isn't always a recipe for disaster and a club very close to home have proven that.It's all about your overall recruitment, replacement and youth strategy.Torres, Suarez, Coutinho. They sold them all at profit when they were their star players. But they reinvested to gradually improve the squad. Coutinho is probably the pick of the bunch. Bought for £8M, sold for over £100M. They never missed him and have progressed since.I hate myself using them as a example and I'm off to drink washing up liquid to cleanse my pallet.You can sell but you need to reinvest wisely blended with a few youth players coming through. Chelsea are a current good example of that, although they've tended to sell early over the years (Lukaku, De Bruyne). Probably too early in the case of De Bruyne. Christopher Nicholls 27 Posted 10/05/2022 at 17:52:30 Hopefully we don't sell all the best players, that would more than likely result in a very significant impact. The team has struggled for goals this year and goal scorer's/creators don't come cheap.I'd hate to lose Richarlison, but would not hold it against him. Gray really would have to step up to full that gap.Selling Calvert Lewin and Pickford on top of that, might run the risk of sending all the wrong signals and once agents/clubs get wind of any desperation, the sharks will be in.Bottom line is that Lampard and team must be able to build and have a say in what the team looks like next year. Phil Smith 28 Posted 10/05/2022 at 19:45:20 If we sell Calvert-Lewin, I'd be surprised if Frank sold Kean too. He might want to see him for himself first. If not, Simms to start up front with Rondon next season. Jason Li 29 Posted 10/05/2022 at 21:19:38 If Calvert-Lewin or Richarlison goes and Leeds go down, take Patrick Bamford. Simms would need a year on the bench to bed in to top-flight football.Kalvin Phillips would be nice for a No 6 too. Robert Tressell 31 Posted 10/05/2022 at 22:06:07 We are likely to sell Kean, Mina, Richarlison and possibly Calvert-Lewin this summer. Kean doesn't want to play for Everton and the existing Juve deal means he doesn't ever need to.We won't be able to reinvest all the sale proceeds.We can't buy players like Phillips (cost and he'll have much better options) from Leeds and shouldn't buy players like Bamford (age, injury record, cost and lack of resale value – something that has absolutely killed us). Sounds bleak, but I'm optimistic the new (apparently professional) DoF and Lampard will do okay. Good players don't need to cost a fortune – you just have to let them develop and acclimatise. Bernie Quinn 32 Posted 10/05/2022 at 22:43:28 I don't quite understand this talk of buying players. Isn't any money received from selling players earmarked for repaying the debt to FFP? Terry Downes 33 Posted 10/05/2022 at 22:56:37 Just been reading that Everton would accept around 50mill for Richarlison ? How the fk is he only worth that much ? We paid 40 to 45 for him ? Drives me daft how our best players are worth fk all but R/S get best price for anyone ? Craig Harrison 34 Posted 11/05/2022 at 00:26:29 Bernie I believe any money from sales goes immediately to ffp but any money spent gets spread along the length of the contract. I could be wrong. So in essence if we sell richi for £50 mill the lot goes towards ffp. If we buy a player for £50 mill on a 5 year contract it counts as £10 mill a year for the next 5 years Martin Faulkner 35 Posted 11/05/2022 at 01:32:58 Craig/BernieI don't think any of the money goes to FFP unless they have some kind of agreement with EPL, it just balances the booksIf we run less than 105M loss next year FFP is not an issue, although not healthy to making year on year losses of the size we have been.Player salary savings are about 16m for players coming off contract and loans ending. Gyf, Kean, Tosun, Kenny, Begovic, VDB, Ghazi, DelphIf we can move on Mina and Gomes (don't laugh) there's another 12m pa in savingsSelling DCL and or Richi would also save another 8m in addition to sale valuesPotentially 36m savings in year on year wages and transfer fees around 90m would see a decent financial reset and give Lampard something to work with Bernie Quinn 36 Posted 11/05/2022 at 02:29:06 Thanks Craig and Nartin - still sounds a bit Irish to me but if it means that Frank can start rebuilding the Team, then I'm happy. Pete Williams 37 Posted 11/05/2022 at 14:50:06 Frank likes youth so I expect Simms and Warrington to get a look in, Branthwaite looks good and don't forget Patterson is coming back. If we can pick up other young talent like Godfrey and keep our best players then we can avoid big spends. The MK cash will be welcome a year before we'd have got more. With loads of contracts ending we should be well set alongside the better TV cash. Just hope Moshiri's big club dreams don't wreck us again! Phil (Kelsall) Roberts 38 Posted 11/05/2022 at 23:01:43 Can we persuade Jim Ratcliffe to buy us? He has £4bn to buy Chelsea and he won't have to work out where to put a new stadium.And Ineos as a shirt sponsor will tie in with the local factories. Will Mabon 39 Posted 11/05/2022 at 23:26:04 Phil - never say never but I think the London thing, "Big Six" status and attendant potential revenue may have had a large bearing. Ian Pilkington 40 Posted 11/05/2022 at 23:45:04 Jim Ratcliffe is a Mancunian long domiciled in the south east. According to an interview he gave to the BBC last week, he has split allegiance to Manure and Chelsea. INEOS already owns OGC Nice so if he remains interested in buying into the PL, ensuring that at least one major club is British owned, we are the obvious option.Fingers crossed. Phil (Kelsall) Roberts 41 Posted 12/05/2022 at 07:27:32 He also owns a lot of the manufacturing around this area having bought a number of the old ICI chemical companies. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. About these ads Find out how to browse ad-free and support ToffeeWeb © ToffeeWeb