Are Everton Football Club once again in grave danger of passing up on a fantastic young and superbly skilled future talent, sacrificing his potential contribution as a real prodigy on the graven altar of financial expediency? Shouldn't we as a club be doing everything we can to bend over backwards and keep him on the books?

In a way, we have already: with 18 months still left on his already extended contract, the club negotiated a new deal for him in December 2021, running for 3½ years through June 2025. However, that hasn't stopped the vultures circling at his current loan club, PSV Eindhoven. 

It was apparently the club connection with Marcel Brands, who had returned to the club where he had spent 8 years previously, before joining Everton in 2018 as Director of Football. In that spell, PSV won three Eredivisie titles, three Johan Cruyff Shields and one KNVB Cup.

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With Brands's interest in the player – he was instrumental in signing him for Everton from Carlisle Utd back in 2020 – it looked to be a fine choice for Jarrad to spend a year of his development on the continent under such circumstances. 

And by all accounts, Branthwaite's done a fine job with them – scoring a brace in PSV’s 3-1 KNVB Cup win over FC Emmen on Wednesday. That was his 28th involvement in the PSV squad so far this season, although 8 of them were on the bench as an unused sub. 

However, in recent weeks, he has become a mainstay of the PSV defence, playing 7 out of 8 full 90-minute games for them since the turn of the year, with only one loss in that time, to FC Emmen in the Eredivisie. And that 8th game? He played 85 out of 90 minutes, coming off as the two-goal hero in that revenge cup this week win over FC Emmen.

No surprise then that it was widely reported towards the end of January, PSV were negotiating with Everton over a permanent deal for the 20-year-old. PSV have been ‘eager to get Branthwaite under contract for some time now’ as they view him as a player for the future.

But it wasn’t possible for Ruud van Nistelrooy’s side to buy him in January as they reportedly didn’t receive any response from his parent club. While no way to conduct business in a professional football environment, if true, it hopefully is a sign of the conviction that Everton are determined to retain his registration going forward.  

But that future trajectory looks to be steeped in uncertainty, with Everton still deep in relegation trouble and severely constrained financially through the joint burdens of Profitability and Sustainability compliance, plus the inferred diversion of funds to pay for the ongoing construction of the new Everton Stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock. 

The impending battle lines over his Everton future appear to have been drawn this week with rumours that Liverpool and Manchester United could be set to fight it out over a deal to sign Everton's young defender in the summer transfer window, according to the Daily Mail

In that story, it's claimed that PSV made two offers, the last believed to be worth up to £15million, both of which were rejected by Everton. But will the club be able to resist such overtures this summer?

And will the player have any desire to ply his trade in a struggling lower Premier League side after tasting Champions League and Europa League football with one of Europe's most renowned clubs? 

Let's hope against hope that the answer to both questions is a resounding Yes!


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Tony Everan
1 Posted 09/02/2023 at 08:21:27
A couple of goals and an MotM performance from our crown jewel Jarrad Branthwaite last night. He's making good progress for PSV, no wonder the vultures are circling.

He is on a different level regarding potential and importance to Everton to Anthony Gordon, and in this instance we have to fight the suitors off and build the future around him.

Everton's two-goal Jarrad Branthwaite stars in PSV Eindhoven cup win

Danny O’Neill
2 Posted 09/02/2023 at 09:05:56
I've just been talking to Chris who sent me the link about Branthwaite. Thank you Chris.

As I said to him, no surprise to me. His goal at Chelsea almost right in front of me was arguably my favourite moment of the season even though we didn't win. It wasn't just the goal, it was his run, anticipation and bravery to get on the end of the cross.

And if I remember correctly, we were decimated by injuries that night and ended the match with a very young team on the pitch who held their own and their nerve.

My only concern is that I've read Brands might be trying to sign him permanently and as I said to Chris, if you wave a tenner in front of our board right now or drop it, they will catch it before it hits the floor.

Dave Abrahams
3 Posted 09/02/2023 at 10:38:20
I just posted on another website that I think Branthwaite will fit nice and easy into the vacant slot left by Mina at the end of the season and will be a big improvement on the rarely seen Colombian who will not be missed by me in the least.
Alan McGuffog
4 Posted 09/02/2023 at 10:39:43
If he's that good, and who knows, he will move on, such is the nature of football. We are minnows in the bigger scheme of things.

As long as we get top, top dollar, so be it. With the proviso that we don't entertain any bid from Mordor, that is!

Trevor Peers
5 Posted 09/02/2023 at 10:46:31
We've only ever sold one 'great' play Rooney of course. The rest including Jeffers, Rodwell, Barkley and now Gordon have all been distinctly average, even Richarlison can't nail down a regular spot at Spurs.

Stones did okay; he was surrounded by great players at Man City but still had fatal mistakes in his game that hardly put him in the 'great' category. I think we've done pretty well on the selling front, it's buying players where we've utterly failed to get value for money and have embarrassingly wasted £millions.

Ray Smith
6 Posted 09/02/2023 at 10:46:31
Be interesting to see what role Sargeson will play in the greater scheme of things!Is Thelwell on his way out?

I could see Branthwaite playing a big part in Dyche's team ethic.

I've never heard of Sargeson, but Brighton do seem to have a forward-thinking recruiting team.

We shall see!

Alan J Thompson
7 Posted 09/02/2023 at 10:50:18
A promising youngster chased by, amongst others, Man Utd so we know who'll be engineering another promising youngster away. Our only hope is that the Board are too frightened to all be together in the same place and that same fear is probably why there seems to be a low offer for 25% of shares.

"What would Everton do?" – Shit themselves!

Tony Everan
8 Posted 09/02/2023 at 10:53:22
I hope Mr Moshiri has got some long term vision with regards to Branthwaite and doesn’t see him as a quick fix help to our cash flow. It would be an unforgivable and regressive move.

He’s more important to Everton than Anthony Gordon and is a quality young player we can build a better team around.

Sean Dyche was a CB so he’s got to be interested in Branthwaite. I think he will see it as exciting to be able to bring him on at Everton and be involved with his developing. Also Dyche’s no nonsense approach will dovetail well with Branthwaite’s natural ability and quality, learning the essential dark arts to compliment his classy game.

I think we will see a gradual introduction of Branthwaite next season alongside Tarkowski or Coady.

Bob Parrington
9 Posted 09/02/2023 at 11:05:54
Keep him. Don't sell Touch of Class in Jarrad – similar to Stones and the Aussie Ned Zellich (who was misunderstood).
Brian Harrison
10 Posted 09/02/2023 at 11:09:23
I think we have to remember that the main decision as to whether Branthwaite stays is Branthwaites. I am sure his agent is well aware if any of these clubs are interested in signing him and if they are why would he commit to Everton as nobody even knows what division we will be in next season.

Also the latest accounts published by Deloitte shows an income of £181m and of that 96% goes out in wages. That is completely unsustainable whoever is the owner next season. Also some of our players who are on massive wages will end their contract this summer so no transfer money there. So it will be the case even if we are still in the Premier league next season we will have to completely change the amount we pay out on wages compared to income.

Danny O’Neill
11 Posted 09/02/2023 at 11:29:02
If we keep him, just don't hound him for the odd mistake.

Here's my mystic prediction without any knowledge whatsoever.

We cash in on Pickford and keep Branthwaite. We find another keeper.

My suspicious self suspects Brands, who has clearly influenced his career, has his eye on him. And will know the inner workings of the club and which levers to pull.

Now Brands, I know he has and had his critics, but at least a board member willing to directly face furious fans and speak to them Not run away or fear an alleged headlock and worse, not show up at all.

Bill and Co may well show up for warm hospitality on Monday and romanticise about how he used to go to both Anfield and Goodison. Different generation and I know many did. Maybe he can go to the Boys Pen in that dreadful place. He might feel more welcome there than the one he used to stand at in Goodison.

Excuse me, I'm building myself. I think I should be calm by Monday.

Barry Hesketh
12 Posted 09/02/2023 at 11:30:24
We are currently reliant on Coady a loanee from Wolves, but here we are discussing the strong possibility of losing a future star, with the neighbours supposedly sniffing around to pick him up on the relative cheap.

Everton will never escape this cycle of constantly having to rebuild the team if we keep cashing in on our young potential stars. Balancing the books is necessary, of course, but the price we as fans pay is that the overall product we watch is below the standard we'd all like to see. I got scoffed at by somebody when I compared Everton to Brighton and Brentford, I'm not even sure that we are in that bracket.

I suppose what grates the most, is that the younger stars don't even do a couple of seasons helping the first team, before they are on the 'for sale' list. Branthwaite will leave I'm pretty sure, his contract has a couple of years to run, but that means nothing when money is on the table.

Tony Abrahams
13 Posted 09/02/2023 at 11:44:24
The papers were reporting that PSV, were going to send him back to Everton, during the transfer window, then they were reporting that he was staying. Then they were reporting that PSV now wanted to sign him, and now he’s allegedly getting linked with everyone.

Brainthwaith should already be in Everton’s first team right now, imo, and Everton would be very foolish, if they have got even the remotest thought about selling him. He’s big, strong, quick, and very composed on the ball, and has everything in his locker to become a top player. Why would we even consider selling such a player? I know!

Ajay Gopal
14 Posted 09/02/2023 at 11:45:19
I would like us to keep Jarred for at least 2 more seasons.

Mina is on his way out
One of Keane/Holgate should generate about 10-15 million for us in the summer (as is well known, I would prefer to keep Holgate) - otherwise, don't exercise the Coady option.

Next season, we would have: Tarkowski, Jarred, Godfrey, Coady and Holgate as our CBs - that is quite enough! Tarkowski as right sided CB and Branthwaite as left sided CB would be the ideal pairing in my opinion. If Jarred continues his development, in 2 years time, he could easily become a 100+ million superstar.

David Vaughan
15 Posted 09/02/2023 at 11:49:14
Ive always thought we should keep him. With our new managerial blood and possible significant investment we may no longer need to sell off our prized golden geese. Let's hope so, anyway.
Peter Mills
16 Posted 09/02/2023 at 12:27:53
I’ve only seen the lad play a bit, but was very impressed with him. I was pleased when he went on loan, believing it would do his playing and personal development the world of good.

It seems as though it has done, so let’s get him back at the end of the season.

Peter Carpenter
17 Posted 09/02/2023 at 12:27:56
Terry Downes
18 Posted 09/02/2023 at 12:28:02
Be like a new signing for next season ?
Christy Ring
19 Posted 09/02/2023 at 12:32:31
He's young, 6ft5, left sided centreback and sent to PSV to gain experience, which he has done. Mina will be gone in the summer, and Branthwaite should be starting next season, he has a contract until 2025, and Ancelotti was raving about him, why would we be so stupid to sell him?
Phill Thompson
20 Posted 09/02/2023 at 12:55:10
We put pressure on PSV in January , play him more or he comes back, and he seems to have started every game since. As we also reportedly turned down £15 mill from PSV, I am hopeful that we recognise his future value. At 20 he’s not the finished article yet, but he’s got great potential, 6foot 5ins, can use both feet, calm in possessions and a decent header of the ball. He could learn a lot from Tarks next season, the biggest worry is why would he stay with us long term.
Jim Potter
21 Posted 09/02/2023 at 12:57:22
We have no reason to sell him and he has no reason to stay, unless he's given some play time assurances.

I believe the change of manager and style of play will intrigue the lad and hopefully, if we pull off survival, see him right up the pecking order next year (whatever league we're then in).

A clear out is much needed and will bring opportunities to the likes of Jarrad. English, talented, young, 6ft 5", left footed, with continental experience and getting some rave reviews.

It sounds too good to be true, and we already have him.

Imagine looking to buy someone with those attributes!

Lee Courtliff
22 Posted 09/02/2023 at 12:58:45
Because we're run by clowns, Christy. For what it's worth, I think we should keep him and sell Pickford, as there is no need for Jordan in a Dyche-ball team.
Alan McGuffog
23 Posted 09/02/2023 at 13:00:02
If Pickford wants away to Spurs this summer then we might do worse than cast a glance over Kelleher (?) across the park. Seemingly he wants first team footy.
We've done well in the past with ex reds
Brian Harrison
24 Posted 09/02/2023 at 13:00:21
Thought there might have been an article about what is being reported in the Athletic who are reporting that Lee Sargeson has been appointed by Everton as the manager of scouting. He was previously the senior scouting manager at Brighton.
Robert Tressell
25 Posted 09/02/2023 at 13:09:20
Alan # 23. Funny you should mention Kellerher. I wouldn't be surprised if he is Pickfords replacement next season. It also wouldn't surprise me if Branthwaite goes in the other direction.

It would very much surprise me if Branthwaite plays for Everton next season. Terrible shame as I think he could be an absolutely immense player - but such is our financial situation.

Dave Abrahams
26 Posted 09/02/2023 at 13:21:28
Alan (23) yes Kelleher, a very good solid ‘keeper, I wouldn’t mind him at all, and if Pickford is sold it would make it possible for Everton to hold on to Branthwaite providing he wants to stay and that’s two thirds of a young spine of a team to join Dominic as the full spine.
Bill Gall
27 Posted 09/02/2023 at 13:27:08
S.Dyche is a defensive minded coach that will have already have been aware of the players he will have for the start of next season, and who he will want to keep and who to sell. First thing is we have to remain in the Premier, After that we have to provide our promising youth players more opportunity to get into the first team as that is the only way they can improve their game, but he most important thing is we need to encourage a player that is already being touted by other clubs that his development will be better suited a Everton rather than other clubs.
As the transfer window showed Everton are not the attractive club that we as supporters would believe it should be, and that any player would want to come, never mind leave.
Success or failure starts at the top, and at the moment there is no trust between the supporters and the owner and board and the published discord makes players think about coming to or staying and this is a major problem. You can refuse to sell him, but if he wants to leave you will have a disgruntled player on your hands that may reflect in his standard of play.
We need stability from the top and if these new quoted investors come in they should be given the places on the board to show that the owner is willing to make changes. It is a small step to bring the tension between the club and its supporters closer to an understanding, but it will be a start.
John Chambers
28 Posted 09/02/2023 at 13:31:22
Assuming Dyche sticks to his preferred 4-4-2, I believe we need 4 centre-backs for next season. My choice would be Tarkowski, Godfrey, Branthwaite & Holgate. Means we can get Mina, who will be out of contract, off the wage bill, we could get some money in for Keane, and avoid spending on Coady.

Might feel harsh on Coady who has done well for us but he will turn 30 in a couple of weeks. I know Holgate will not be top of everyone's list, and I wouldn't keep him at the expense of developing another youngster, eg, Reece Welch if they are ready for the first-team squad, but he can also provide cover across the back 4.

Alan McGuffog
29 Posted 09/02/2023 at 13:33:17
Depends on what our priorities are.

If we wanted Kelleher then that lot, understandably, might demand Branthwaite... I can see them planning on replacing St Virgil before too long.

Wonder if I could have a go at being DoF? 🤔

John Pickles
31 Posted 09/02/2023 at 13:42:00
If he is any good, then of course he will go.

Why would he want to stay at Everton? He isn't an Evertonian and we can't even keep those. There are a dozen better clubs than us in England alone. We don't challenge for European football, more likely regarded as just relegation fodder.

We have lost good players even when we were decent, we have no chance now.

We would be better concentrating on getting the best deal we can for him (so we can waste it on a poorer replacement).

Brian Harrison
32 Posted 09/02/2023 at 13:48:07
Bill @27,

You say that Dyche is a defensive coach, well what I saw at Goodison on Saturday was a team who had options when we attacked. Yet I suppose many will not put that label on Lampard, who had a team that was completely devoid of any attacking ideas, and why we are the Premier League's lowest goal scorers.

So maybe let's not put pre-conceived labels on managers before seeing if that's the reality.

Eddie Dunn
33 Posted 09/02/2023 at 13:50:36
Branthwaite has potential and I hope he comes back and continues with us, but I think we are having another one of those eposides where a player gets better, the longer we don't see him.

The Dutch league is not the Premier League and Weghorst, Klaassen and Van de Beek are testimony to that gulf.
Branthwaite made a costly mistake last time I saw him play for us. Let's not pretend that he is the new Dave Watson.

He is a promising young player and, if he returns, he might end up bang average or he might be good.

Kevin Molloy
34 Posted 09/02/2023 at 13:55:22
This is actually a rare good news story. He's our player doing well.

Worst-case scenario: we sell him for a lot of money. Not like we don't need it.

Derek Knox
35 Posted 09/02/2023 at 14:11:45
If we are aspiring to greater things and a loftier league position, long overdue by the way, we will never achieve that by selling our better players, and younger players with genuine potential. We have a few at the moment as well as Branthwaite, Mills, Price, Cannon, Simms, Onyango, Nkounkou, Dobbin, Welch etc, almost a full team if allowed to mature and be coached by the same Coach/Manager.

We have to keep Jarrad, bought for £1Million, and allegedly worth £15M now, 2 years later. Don't ever let Kenwright get involved either, as all he will see is extra new stuffing for his already bulging couch.

Martin Mason
36 Posted 09/02/2023 at 14:20:53
I haven't seen him play for PSV but the general view is that he is very, very good. I said, to total derision at the time, that John Stones would become a world class defender which he patently has. We mut not sell this player.
Danny O’Neill
37 Posted 09/02/2023 at 14:28:32
A few comments here.

I might be a self confessed idiot John but why wouldn't he want to stay at Everton? I can't comprehend that thought.

He seems a balanced individual and if we can convince him, we can develop him and his career. If he jumps too soon, it could all go wrong as it has done for many a young player and he might not get to play as often.

Eddie, agree to an extent, but poor Davy Klaassen had no chance. Thrown into a disfunctional team after the most disjointed transfer window in history, which left us with no option or plan other that to throw a lot of players onto the pitch and see what happened.

He done well in the Bundesliga and played in the Champions League as well as and European Final.

There have been many fine Dutch footballers in the English League, but they played in good teams.

Didn't Ipswich have a couple in their brief 80s glory years back when it wasn't trendy to have foreign players?

Stu Darlington
38 Posted 09/02/2023 at 14:33:06
Branthwaite has the potential to be one of the best centre backs in the Premier League.
If we are planning to build a competitive team in this league then no way should we contemplate selling him.
If his head gets turned and he agitates for a move then it’s a different situation as I believe we shouldn’t hang on to anyone who doesn’t want to play for us,but we should be asking for top dollar not even considering a figure that does not reflect his true value.
Under no circumstances should he be allowed to move across the Park,as I have heard they are one of the clubs sniffing around.
Lyndon Lloyd
39 Posted 09/02/2023 at 14:34:59
The stories that PSV had lodged offers for Branthwaite were flatly rejected by more credible outlets than the Daily Mail but, yes, if he continues to impress the scouts of massive clubs, we might lose him but I don't think we'd be "passing him up".

I'm not sure we'd have a choice if we started receiving silly money. We're not in the position where we're able to hang on to our best assets and haven't been for quite a long time.

Steve Shave
40 Posted 09/02/2023 at 14:44:53
Really like Jarred, I've posted on here many times we should be planning for a future with him. When he returns in the summer, regardless of whether we stay up or go down Dyche should be in his ear about how he can develop him further.

Keane, Mee and Tarkowski have all developed a great deal under SD. Our Jarred could be another class to all of them. I've mentioned it a few times on here but my late father-in-law was a massive Carlisle fan and the club where saying at 16 he was a nailed on future England captain.

He has height, strength and pace to burn. Let's get him on the SD revolution and build around him. Mina will be gone and I for one would not take up the option to sign Coady. That leaves us with 5 CBS and money to invest in decent fullback cover, someone who can play both sides would be a good option if we can find it.

Clive Rogers
41 Posted 09/02/2023 at 14:47:31
There is only one ending for clubs that continually sell their best players.
Barry Hesketh
42 Posted 09/02/2023 at 14:54:00
Danny @37
Both of them were of the highest quality too:

Muhren & Thijssen: When Ipswich Went Double Dutch

Bill Gall
43 Posted 09/02/2023 at 15:01:04
Brian # 32
I am sorry that comment brought out a negative comment, what I meant is that Dyche is a manager that believes that a strong defense is the foundation for an attacking option, I also wrote another comment on a different thread that Dyche like Howe may not have had the players for a more attacking option, and he did get the reputation he was a more defensive coach that a number of supporters did not want him at Everton
Raymond Fox
44 Posted 09/02/2023 at 15:10:45
As Brian @10 says, in the end, it depends who Branthwaite wants to play for.

Gordon wanted out to where he thought they might be more successful than us and I dare say on a much better contract to boot.

If we were in their boots, we would probably do the same – I'm excluding Danny in this, he would definitely not sign for anyone else even if they offered the crown jewels.

This is one of the reasons the usual Top 6 finish in the Top 6, that and the FFP rules which have now cut another route to displace one of them.

It's vital we stay up this season or we will be knocked back another 4 or 5 years. We were 4/6 to go down before the Arsenal game; we are now 6/5 against but are still among the 3 most likely to be relegated.

It can all change very quickly though, we need another 5 or 6 wins and some draws, I think we might do it if Calvert-Lewin can stay fit. Our problem is the other teams around us keep picking up points; we can only hope they falter.

Danny O’Neill
45 Posted 09/02/2023 at 15:16:39
Firstly, before MK steps in for my spelling mistakes above, I'm typing furiously in-between concentrating on other stuff. As well as getting emotional already about Monday.

Brian and Bill, from my seat, I thought we actually played higher up the pitch and the manager was encouraging it against one of the best attacking teams in the league who smashed us 5-1 in May.

But we looked much better organised and compact defensively when we didn't have the ball. Then we knew how to open the game and get in the faces of and take the game to the opposition when we had possession.

Let's take that forward to Anfield. I hope we play on the front foot again so much so that some of our players end up in the Kop if necessary.

We'll just have to cleanse them with holy water afterwards.

Anthony Flack
46 Posted 09/02/2023 at 15:35:45
I'm fairly sure Dyche is more than aware of his talent and maybe he'll pop over to watch a game, make him feel appreciated!

I recall Lampard lambasting him or maybe it was Benitez…

A lot depends on what a player wants and you've got to hope he wants to stay.

Eddie Dunn
47 Posted 09/02/2023 at 15:44:18
Danny, those two Dutchmen were class, of that there is no doubt, and you are right about Klaassen -– he was unfortunate to arrive in a cluster of number tens!

However, my point is about the gulf in quality between the Dutch league and ours.

On Branthwaite, I not only recall him getting tangled-up with Ivan Toney and getting a red card but also trying to clear a Pickford punt near the touchline and managing to slice it backwards to give away a corner.

Let's not get carried away.

Tom Bowers
48 Posted 09/02/2023 at 16:02:57
RS rumoured to be interested and if they are we should trade him for Owen, Keegan, Rush and Salah.
Danny O’Neill
49 Posted 09/02/2023 at 16:16:17
I understand that, Eddie, as I watch a lot of continental football, often live.

I just think you can uncover some gems in the likes of Holland, Germany and Denmark; look at Brentford. Belgium also. Players that are suited to our game in the right team.

A good example is them snapping up Suarez who spent about 5 seasons in the Dutch league with a small club before moving to Ajax. Went on to be a superstar with them and then Barcelona.

I personally think we overrate the Premier League and underrate some of those European leagues.

We can do much better shopping than paying overinflated prices for overrated Premier League players in my view.

John Graham
50 Posted 09/02/2023 at 16:23:54
Important that we try to get him to sign an improved contract with either a few more years or a clause with a minimum sale value.

I feel he will definitely go at some point so it's just about getting a fair fee for him.

Hopefully he can establish himself in the first team next season and then see how things go.

Sam Hoare
51 Posted 09/02/2023 at 16:37:12
Selling him for £15M now would be criminal when he may well be worth £30-40M in a few years time.

If we get relegated, he would be the perfect player to develop alongside Tarkowski and they would be one of the best centre-back pairings in the Championship. If we stay up, he should still get more game time once Mina, Keane and Coady (hopefully, I'm not a fan) leave.

Gotta start following Brighton's lead, developing young talent, getting up the table and selling one or two a year at inflated prices.

Eddie Dunn
52 Posted 09/02/2023 at 17:00:39

It seems that recruitment is just lazy. Why aren't we uncovering these gems?

Garry Martin
53 Posted 09/02/2023 at 17:10:24
He will be seen by the EFC "men in black suits" as a monetary asset, therefore, be prepared to lose him in the Summer.

He must also have been disappointed to be loaned out having made senior games last season.

Minik Hansen
54 Posted 09/02/2023 at 17:21:35
I like Branthwaite. Just needed a little more stable feet, I bet he got 'em now.

The next 5-7 matches will show what we're gonna do with him, keep him here and play him (wishful scenario) or get as much as the club can for him, maybe even put sell-on clause and the likes.

He's promising, no question about that.

Mike Gaynes
55 Posted 09/02/2023 at 17:30:11
Must. Keep.

End. Of.

David Currie
56 Posted 09/02/2023 at 17:48:59
He is the only left-footed centre-back we have; I would have have him back in our first-team squad now.

We could have had Robinson, Paterson and Branthwaite as 3 of our 4 defenders. All young quick and hungry players with talent.

Who was our manager when Robinson was allowed to leave? Was it Silva?

Mark Ryan
57 Posted 09/02/2023 at 17:52:40
Keep ffs. He's a cracking player. Good enough now really. A little raw but what a talent he will be. DO NOT SELL. Future club captain
Tom Bowers
58 Posted 09/02/2023 at 17:54:39
Good to hear the lad is doing well but I have never rated the Dutch league which is similar to the Scottish Prem. with 2 or three clubs dominating each year.

The lad had talent and looked promising when here and at the present time Everton have a spate of centre backs (defenders).

Those we have are not the most reliable with sick notes Mina and Godfrey along with out of favour Keane.
The other two are vastly experienced although one is a loanee.

They may think they have enough in that area so may cash in on Branthwaite.

Could be a difficult decision for management to make but they need cash to buy better offensive players for next season.

Danny O’Neill
59 Posted 09/02/2023 at 17:59:09
Can't disagree with that, Eddie. I'd go a step further, our scouting has been near non-existent rather than lazy.

Let's hope Thelwell's appointments will change that, especially bringing in the person from Brighton.

Frank Sheppard
60 Posted 09/02/2023 at 18:02:24
I remember the moaning/ negative users posting on TW (of which they're are too many), saying he wasn't good enough not that long ago.
William Cartwright
61 Posted 09/02/2023 at 18:17:08
The cynical pessimism in most responses to this article depresses me. I understand it, but I also see we have a manager who has made the most professional and inspiring of starts imaginable.

From dealing with the press, tiptoeing between the Board's powerful yet incompetent authority, rallying the fans, motivating the players and organizing the misfits into a credible team against all realistic expectations, dealing (short-term?) with the debacle of the transfer window by using it as a motivational factor, winding up Arsenal — all in a week!!!

Bloody hell — What more do you expect?

Me? I fully expect a result from the derby, followed by a decent run to get away from the relegation danger zone, continuing progress with the new stadium — one of, if not the biggest current building construction projects in the country.

Why are the footballing world, including some, several… many Evertonians, so against Mr Dyche? Show him some respect and gratitude and trust that he just might have some influence on the decisions surrounding Branthwaite and Co for the good of the club.

Branthwaite himself might even have been impressed with Mr Dyche — stranger things have happened. We just might be in safe and professional hands, even if by default, so why not at least try to enjoy the moment… COYB

Andy Crooks
62 Posted 09/02/2023 at 18:28:45
Martin @ 36,

You most certainly did not face total derision. There were numerous admirers of Stones… in fact, one compared him to Bobby Moore.

We have some players who are, or could become, hugely valuable assets. Branthwaite is one, Calvert-Lewin, Onana, Pickford, Patterson, Maupay (... just kidding).

I'd love to keep all of them but we can't. So, we have to perfectly time any sales. Pickford in the summer which might buy some time for the rest to increase their value – or, in Calvert-Lewin's case, restore it.

Andrew Keatley
63 Posted 09/02/2023 at 18:30:22
We have to be realistic about where we are. I suspect that, as a very saleable asset – young, English, left-footed, 6'-5”, good on the ground and in the air, and proving himself at a major European club – then he could well be subject to a very hefty bidding war.

Considering that Gordon was sold for £40 million, then I reckon Branthwaite is probably on the verge of being worth that now, especially to a rival Premier League club. Add in the way book value is such a significant value in terms of FFP and P&S regulation, I reckon he'll be on his way soon - especially if we are playing football outside of the Premier League come next season.

It will be sad to see another great prospect gone but, if it enables the club to continue to rebuild after the mess of the last 7 years, then hopefully we can just chalk it down as a rare success for the club's recruitment policy.

For what it is worth, I think Branthwaite will end up being a regular England international for the next decade plus.

John Gall
64 Posted 09/02/2023 at 18:46:43
I admit to being completed baffled by modern-day football culture.

There are just 20 clubs in the Premier League. Everton are one of the few who were founder members and are still there. We also happen to be the club who has spent longest in the top flight of them all.

Everton are, on paper at least, one of the 20 richest clubs in Europe. So enough of all this humble, "We are just a Fulham or a Norwich now" kind of timid nonsense. Everton are greats in English football and will rise again.

This kid, if he's so good – why is he not playing for us? Why all this hype and rumour? Play him, assess him and value him. Let's see if he's good enough for Everton.

If the club, as I think it will now under Dyche, starts to climb the table, maybe the timidity of our fans, and our board, and our players will start to evaporate — to be replaced by a valid sense of pride in what this club was, is, and will be in the future.

I'm sick of all this defeatism.

Danny O’Neill
65 Posted 09/02/2023 at 18:55:15
William @61,

I think we have to differentiate between our frustration with the way the club has been run, and our support for the team.

Come Monday, we are there in our thousands facing that shower in the face in their shoebox of a ground.

They will claim abuse of all kinds, the moment we start chanting, yet hurl it in our faces in many more ways.

Two-faced bastards. Off to the swear box.

I can't think of a football club I despise more, but we are going to support Everton. And we will do, with passion and commitment.


Ray Smith
66 Posted 09/02/2023 at 18:59:14
Eddie @52

Is Sargeson from Brighton a step in the right direction re recruitment?

Brighton seem to have plans in place, right, left and centre?
We shall see!!!

Tony Abrahams
67 Posted 09/02/2023 at 19:01:39
Whilst nothing is easy, the players coming from abroad that usually do well in England have certain attributes that help them succeed in this country.

You have got to be powerful, have extreme speed, or have to be able to beat a man. I'm not sure little Steven Pienaar possessed any of those skills, but I'm glad Everton signed him!!

There have been that many foreign players in England over the last 20 years that you wonder how good the success rate actually is? How many good young English footballers have stagnated and then fallen away because of this foreign invasion?

Tony Abrahams
68 Posted 09/02/2023 at 19:13:27
Eddie @52,

Recruitment might be lazy or lack innovation, but I'd also argue that young players are not being allowed to make mistakes and learn (like Branthwaite) in the Premier League, but loads of expensive foreigners are all allowed to make those same mistakes whilst the clubs see if the players can adjust.

Stones, Holgate, Calvert-Lewin, Lookman and Branthwaite were all brought in from lower league clubs, after having already played in the Football league, so this is where I'd be looking if I was looking for emerging talent.

Colin Glassar
69 Posted 09/02/2023 at 19:16:35
Of course he'll go. That's our business model now. Get them cheap then sell them for peanuts.

Mustafi, Vlasic, Lookman, Deulofeu, Kean, Robinson, Dier, etc…

All released way too early as we are a club that has no patience or vision.

Kieran Kinsella
70 Posted 09/02/2023 at 19:17:44
Doesn't sound like he's sold on returning to Everton:

"Now I'm mainly concerned with playing my games here until the end of the season. I like it here. I will definitely consider staying here."

About PSV last night…

Danny O’Neill
71 Posted 09/02/2023 at 19:18:22
It's a two way debate in my view, Tony.

Are our players not succeeding because of the investment in foreign players?

Or because due to our lack of investment in our own grass roots, we aren't producing good enough players so clubs go elsewhere?

Or the premium that often comes associated with an English player?

Okay that's three, but probably a combination of all...

I'd love to see us invest in our grass roots, as you know!

Bobby Mallon
72 Posted 09/02/2023 at 19:23:55
Kieran @70,

You can't blame him for wanting Champions League football.

Kieran Kinsella
73 Posted 09/02/2023 at 19:36:39

I am not judging — just sharing.

Tony Abrahams
74 Posted 09/02/2023 at 19:37:30
That won't happen until these academies stop recruiting kids under the age of 12, imo, Danny. And I think the top league is so physically demanding that most managers are also very reluctant to play many young players.

It's just going over the same old ground but maybe things will get better for our younger players if the club finally finds some stability. Although I won't be holding my breath because of the very physically demanding nature of the Premier League.

Rob Halligan
75 Posted 09/02/2023 at 19:58:44
He’s under contract until June 2025, so if he does move on, it won’t be to the RS.
Christy Ring
76 Posted 09/02/2023 at 20:08:44
Eddie #47,

You're very harsh on Jarrad in the Brentford game, his first game since he scored against Chelsea under Benitez.

Let's be honest: Toney is an experienced striker who made the most of it, and knew how to go down. He's played in the Champions League and European football since then, and keeping a young left-sided centre-back is a must.

Rob Dolby
77 Posted 09/02/2023 at 20:13:47
Centre-half is the least of our problems. If a couple of the big boys want him, they will get him. We make a nice profit and look to buy a striker.

I only wish we had the same issues up front as what we have at centre-back.

Mina goes in the summer, hopefully Holgate follows him out of the door. Coady for £4M makes sense, that frees up a space for a young defender to step up.

Mark Taylor
78 Posted 09/02/2023 at 20:27:25
I don't think the comparison with Stones holds up. We sold him after a fair bit of Premier League experience but also enough to create some doubts – not unreasonable ones either.

We got very good money for him, inflation-adjusted. I think he pretty much justified that fee in the end for Man City, but no more than that, so it was reasonable business for both parties.

Gordon may turn out to be a gem but that is even less certain than it was with Stones. I thought £40M plus for him was a big risk by Newcastle. May turn out well, but very possibly won't.

Branthwaite is not that far removed from Gordon at this stage of development, albeit some of that has happened abroad. A similar £40M bid might be of interest. £15M definitely not. At that level, he's worth us taking a risk on.

Michael Kenrick
79 Posted 09/02/2023 at 20:40:07
Colin @69,

Wickedly incisive and right to the point.

I just want to add that I think Eric Dier was only on loan (from Sporting) and was never going to sign permanently for Everton.

Derek Thomas
80 Posted 09/02/2023 at 21:13:25
Given Brands's buy-low, sell-high policy. Their twice repeated (?) £15M offer must be their version of 'Low'.

It's all negotiating now... all the interested parties arguing about all their different versions of what constitutes 'High'.

What do I know, I'm only a fan, but I'd like to see him have a season or two with us first.

Laurie Hartley
81 Posted 09/02/2023 at 21:43:57
I hope we keep him - he has all the physical attributes for a top centre half not the least of which is his pace, but the icing on the cake is his temperament. He is as cool as cucumber.

Lester Yip
82 Posted 09/02/2023 at 21:57:59
Yes, he looks a real deal. But I'm afraid he will be sold to the highest bidder soon because our financial status is so bad. Sad.
Danny O’Neill
83 Posted 09/02/2023 at 22:15:22
Totally Tony. We've spoken on countless occasions. Leave these kids in their natural environments. Rather than lock them behind the gates of Finch Farm, send our development coaches out into the community to support local clubs and coach local players.

Everton Football Club in the community focussed in the community.

James Kirrane
84 Posted 10/02/2023 at 00:52:10
Could never understand why we let Antonee Robinson go. Great pace and playing well for Fulham. We sold him for a pittance.
Mike Gaynes
85 Posted 10/02/2023 at 01:04:21
James #84, don't get me started. Readers here will remember I had a nuclear meltdown when we sold him off.

My core is still radioactive.

Mal van Schaick
86 Posted 10/02/2023 at 09:43:27
What's the point of having a youth policy and an academy if our best young protégés are going to be hived off to the highest bidder?

We have at some stage got to give the better ones game time and experience.

Alan McGuffog
87 Posted 10/02/2023 at 09:56:27
In 1966, Alan Ball left a struggling Blackpool when a huge club, a club that had just hosted a World Cup Semi-Final, made a bid of £110k. They needed the money and Ball had ambitions to play for a top team.

T'was ever thus.

Joe McMahon
88 Posted 10/02/2023 at 10:02:00
I'd like to see more of him playing for Everton first before the club make a decision to sell. The Premier League is the most demanding in Europe so we don't actually know how good he is.

Danny O’Neill
89 Posted 10/02/2023 at 10:15:00
Two sides to it, Mal.

Firstly, hope we can generate players that make it into the first-team squad. Second, if not, generate revenue by selling them.

I know some say they are free, but it doesn't cost anything to run Finch Farm and the youth teams. We all want to see them come through. Everton have been particularly willing to sell on young assets at the snap of a hand. But it's football and every club does it.

Tell me a club that has more than 3 or 4 academy players in their team? Maybe Chelsea in the current climate? Alex Ferguson was probably the last one to relive the Busby Babes.

Most others get one or two that come through and establish themselves. The rest get shifted on and follow their careers elsewhere.

We all want our young players to succeed, but how often does it happen in reality? Let's go back a few generations:

Jimmy Gabriel
Alex Young
Howard Kendall
Alan Ball
Bob Latchford
Kevin Sheedy
Trevor Steven
Duncan Ferguson

None of those legends came through Everton's academy as far as I'm aware. The list could go on as it could for many clubs. The reality is most clubs have always bought the best players rather than develop them – bar the odd gem.

I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's how it's always been.

Dave Abrahams
90 Posted 10/02/2023 at 10:42:46
Mike (85),

Yes, I remember you going off on one when we sold Robinson, I might be getting mixed up here but didn't he have some sort of heart problem when he had a medical when we sold him to Wigan or was that another player?

Eddie Dunn
91 Posted 10/02/2023 at 10:48:51

I know I am harsh. Branthwaite wasn't streetwise enough but I was simply giving a couple of examples of how he isn't top level yet.

Ray @66, I hope this Brighton feller does the job properly.

Tony Everan
92 Posted 10/02/2023 at 10:52:14

We sold him to Wigan for £2M, then he was being sold to by them AC Milan for £10M but failed the medical due to an irregular heart rhythm. He had a heart procedure to correct it and is now fine.

Kevin Molloy
93 Posted 10/02/2023 at 11:13:31
I love the way the press describe the current situation. Not 'Well done, Everton, for ensuring one of their top prospects gets fantastic experience on loan' but 'Forgotten man at Everton attracts top 6 interest whilst troubled club remains in relegation zone'
James Newcombe
94 Posted 10/02/2023 at 11:18:41
£15M doesn't buy you much these days does it? We'd be mad to sell him. Especially as you just know that he'll move on from PSV for 3 times that amount.
Steve Byles
95 Posted 10/02/2023 at 11:54:00
In our current situation, we have to sell. If we can get £50M or more, that will pay for a lot of steel and concrete.

We can probably tempt Chelsea or Spurs to buy him in the summer, using Man Utd & Liverpool to push the price up.

We must play the long game – I don't want a future where the ground belongs to Moshiri and we are paying rent to him.

Tony Abrahams
96 Posted 10/02/2023 at 12:16:41
If it's true that PSV offered Everton £15 million for Branthwaite, then if it would have been accepted, I'm sure this would have made him their record signing.

This is how much they think of Branthwaite, who is definitely the type of player, you should be trying to build a team around.

John Keating
97 Posted 10/02/2023 at 12:34:42
The lad loves life there because he's getting regular game time. If we'd loaned him to Fleetwood and he played every week, he'd love it there.

He'll come back at the end of the season and be assessed pre-season.

Regardless which league we're in, with Mina gone and Branthwaite being left-footed, I have no doubt he'll be starting.

As usual, all this selling shit is just newspaper noise.

Russelll Smith
98 Posted 10/02/2023 at 12:42:26
Due to FFP or P&S issues, would it not make more sense to keep Branthwaite, who I expect is currently earning much less than the current centre-backs, let Mina, who is reportedly on £120k a week, go. Sell Keane for £10-15 million who is another high wage earner; don't take up the option for Coady, who I suspect is also a high earner.

This would leave us with Tarkowski, Branthwaite, Holgate, and Godfrey. Surely 4 centre-backs are sufficient!

This would reduce our wage bill considerably and would help our P&S position not just for the coming season but thereafter.

What has happened to Gibson as he was supposed to be one for the future?

Ray Robinson
99 Posted 10/02/2023 at 13:24:29
This article is based on a false premise. Branthwaite can't even be classed as a “great player” yet, although he might well become one.

As others have suggested, with Keane and Mina soon on their way out, I can't see any sense in his being sold – unless the financial pressures dictate.

I don't watch any foreign football so I don't know how he is faring at PSV. Is he beginning to show real potential?

I'd wager that Pickford will be sold before Branthwaite.

Eddie Dunn
100 Posted 10/02/2023 at 13:39:50
Ray, I agree... perhaps the article should read "Is Pickford the next great Everton player to be sold on?"
Dave Abrahams
101 Posted 10/02/2023 at 14:06:44
Tony (92), thanks for that correction.

I knew Antonee had some problems with his heart in the past, glad he got it sorted out.

Tony Holding
102 Posted 10/02/2023 at 15:40:45
Future Everton captain, cool cookie
Tony Everan
103 Posted 10/02/2023 at 20:57:41
Ray, Van Nistelrooy the PSV manager said: “We would like to keep him beyond this season.”

“He is a great talent. The boy is 20, but he has a future.

“He is good on the ball, can play on the left or the right of centre-back because he is two-footed. He has height and speed, so he is very complete.”

Apparently there were scouts from Man U, RS and Roma watching his MotM performance on Wednesday. We will have to bat away offers far in excess of 15m in the summer.

I think he would be better to stay at Everton at this stage in his career and grow as a player with us.

He’s plenty young enough to move on if he needs to at 24 / 25 years old. Who knows, by that time we may be challenging for Europe and trophies in our new stadium. Jarrad may well be then be happy to extend his career with a successful Everton.

Jerome Shields
104 Posted 10/02/2023 at 20:59:17
Reading through the posts, it just shows you how far the present regime that runs Everton have lowered expectations of the Club , that any player who is of value, is expected to be moved on to another Club for profit.They are never replaced by a equally capable plan and in some cases no attempt is made to replace them.

What a absolute disgrace the present Everton regime is .They are not even pretending that they are caoable.

Dupont Koo
105 Posted 09/02/2023 at 05:21:16
Even if we need to take a deep discount on Transfer Fees with Keane, who is on the wrong side of the 30s, it is with utmost importance to get his massive contract (a little less than £90k per week) off our books. If Holgate can generate an 8-figure transfer fee, I'll get him on an Uber too.

The collective savings from their wages, along with Mina's (he is reportedly making £120k per week), would allow us to get Conor Coady signed permanently (we all need to tip our hats to Thelwell for securing that £4.5M purchase option) and offer Jarrad Branthwaite a new contract upon his return to this side of the Channel.

IMHO, we should also try to sign another young centre-back after that (Ben Godfrey will be our utility man providing cover on all defensive positions and keep Mykolenko from getting complacent as the starting left-back) while phasing Seamus Coleman out from being a first-team regular.

Michael Kenrick
106 Posted 11/02/2023 at 09:48:23
You're right, Dupont, we are still grossly overpaying our current players. This select list is the number of players listed to be on over £100k per week:

Everton: Seven!
Aston Villa: Six.*
Newcastle Utd: Four.
Leicester City: Three.
West Ham Utd: Three.
Nottm Forest: One.
Crystal Palace: One.
Leeds Utd: One.
Fulham: none!
Brighton: none!
Brentford: none!
Bournemouth: none!

* Lucas Digne on £160k pw!

Tony Abrahams
107 Posted 11/02/2023 at 10:08:17
Seven Everton players on over one hundred a grand a week? Incredible, and with some lists flying around on Watsapp, showing how much Everton have recouped on transfer fees during the Moshiri era, then it definitely looks like we have mismanaged our wage bill, even more than our recruitment.

Giving average players, Champions league wages, whilst also giving the appalling board of directors, top dollar, has put Everton, in such a perilous position. Hurry up and get shut!

Jerome, I even got praise off Michael K yesterday, so perhaps he can extend it to you for that last post, mate!

Nick Page
108 Posted 11/02/2023 at 10:19:35
I’m surprised it’s only 7, Michael. Lol. Good find by the way - what’s the source of that list?

The problem for Everton is moving those players on….which is highly unlikely unless they have an exceptional season and get picked off by the Sky6, who are the only clubs willing to pay those wages. Selling Branthwaite for a trading profit doesn’t solve anything and in fact is the wrong strategy as you want the younger better players on lower wages displacing the high earners.

How desperately the Everton Boardroom needs professionals that understand this fast evolving industry. We can’t rid ourselves of the stench of Kenwright & Co fast enough.

Chris Leyland
109 Posted 11/02/2023 at 10:32:54
Depends which source you believe.

here are the magnificent 7 according to one source:


Whereas another source has Pickford on 62 grand a week, Tarkowski on 75k and Onana on 85k and only 3 players: Mina, Iwobi and Calvert-Lewin on 100 grand or more.

The best headline when googling Everton wages is : ‘Everton leads the way in tacking low wages in sport’ - we certainly do by the looks of it!

Winston Williamson
110 Posted 11/02/2023 at 10:33:10
Wages to income ratio is our biggest problem. These big contracts remove a competitive edge and reduce motivation.

The players at EFC know they won’t get these wages elsewhere and know we can’t shift them on either.

We should have a wage structure. This should include lower basic wages, with win bonuses, goals scored bonuses, clean sheet bonuses etc

The current wage structure is unsustainable and has led to the problems we currently have..

Dave Abrahams
111 Posted 11/02/2023 at 10:34:15
Nick (108), the agents sort the players contracts out for them and I can see Branthwaite’s being offered and looking for a lot better wages than Everton are offering, unfortunately. I certainly hope he stays but it will be hard for him and his agent to refuse the very good deals coming his way with much better placed and richer clubs than Everton.
Christopher Timmins
112 Posted 11/02/2023 at 10:50:07
The salary numbers quoted above are shocking, just shocking. Purchasing unwanted players from Champions League clubs and paying Champions League type salaries.

Who found the players and who negotiated their salaries?

Players who want to come in order to improve their careers must be the order of the day, just to annoy Danny “young hungry players”.

How much in salary for minutes played has Mina cost, what about James during his time at the club?

Brian Harrison
113 Posted 11/02/2023 at 11:06:05
I am afraid that we have grossly wasted the money that Usmanov/Moshiri have pumped into this club. They are just as culpable as the board members for allowing the ridiculous amounts paid in transfers and salaries. Time for a real reset and we need to start by excepting as fans and the club that we are a bottom half of the table team, and need to cut our cloth accordingly. Stop behaving as if we are still a big club were not and havent been for decades, and if we keep spending 96% of our income on wages then we will be in a much worse place than we are now.
Also should we get relegated there isn't a clause in any of these players contracts that allow us to cut their wages accordingly. And no other Premier league club would pay them that money so they end up staying here till the last day of their contract. I also noticed that those who have put a list together of our players on £100,000 plus a week have all missed off Dele Alli.
Tony Everan
114 Posted 11/02/2023 at 11:07:40
Another for the list. Don’t forget Andre Gomes was given a £29.2m five year contract, £120,000 per week, along with a £22m transfer fee. We are likely subsidising his wages still ?, to what extent I don’t know. He will be back for his final year in June as he is contracted until June 2024.
Kevin Molloy
115 Posted 11/02/2023 at 12:37:42
Not only is Lucas Digne on £160,000 a week, he will be on that wage for the next 3½ years. God Bless Rafa, cos he also got £1M a month James Rodriguez off the books. He did some very necessary pruning of a wage bill that, under Ancelotti, was spiralling out of control.

But then we sacked him so that Frank could bring in Dele Alli for £40M and the rest is history.

Nick Page
116 Posted 11/02/2023 at 12:57:47
What a mess. Shuddering.

You just couldn't imagine professional management paying this sort of money. £45M for Sigurdsson was a sign of the unfolding horror show. A player that had already failed at Spurs. And then Bill buying Rooney and Klaassen too.

And promoting a winger to full-back then to striker. Absolutely stinks of mismanagement.

Kevin Molloy
117 Posted 11/02/2023 at 13:48:45
And at the same time we've had Anthony Gordon on the schoolboy contract he signed ages ago the whole time. And Antonee Robinson was advised to leave by the club's coaches as 36-year-old Leighton Baines was going to play ahead of him if Digne got injured.

Behind the scenes and to his mates, I'll bet Dyche is saying "You wouldn't believe the shitshow I've walked into here!"

Francis van Lierop
118 Posted 11/02/2023 at 14:29:41
'Lange Gerrit' has had quite a week.

That's the nickname the PSV fans have given him (lang = tall).

Even for Dutch standards (reputedly the tallest people on the globe) Jarrad is a tall lad at 1.95m.

Taller than me, at 1.90.

Back in the day as a Lincolnshire lad I was one of the tallest in the class, less so when having to move back over here, after the NHS 'mishandled' my mother, leaving my father a widower with 6 young boys, and a very promising bulb company in tatters.

I saw the two goals Jarrad scored in the cup match against Emmen, one was a header, but the second was something else. He made his way from defence with the ball, traversed the midfield, and finally shot from the edge of the penalty area. Really well done, ok Emmen are not a great side, but still.

Last Sunday he faced tougher opposition, the league leaders in Feyenoord, away, in de De Kuip.

The stadium where we had our greatest success in winning the Cup Winners Cup.

Jarrad held his cool, the result was 2-2, he could not be faulted again.

The first time I got to see Everton was in the same stadium, when Joe Royle's Dogs of War faced Feyenoord.

We lost 1-0 and got knocked out in a poor match.

I have been several times to Goodison, taking 3 people om 3 separate occasions.

As others have we would be very foolish to sell Jarrad!

I had to have a look, PSV's highest signing is Mateja Kezman from Partizan Belgrade for 14m euro's in 2001.

Quite difference with bungling Bill buying high and selling low (Schneiderlin) on long and high contracts.

When will common sense prevail?

Alan J Thompson
119 Posted 11/02/2023 at 17:06:58
And next year we might not need to loan him out to get Championship experience.

Our overall management really makes sad reading if only judging by posters absolutely feeling Branthwaite will be transferred out rather than seen by the club as a future asset.

Robert Tressell
120 Posted 11/02/2023 at 17:33:27
I am sure everyone at the club would want Branthwaite to stay. Any sale will happen out of financial necessity rather than anything else.

The one thing that might intervene is the possible incoming investment from MSP.

They might give us the financial clout to keep him and from an investor strategy point of view he would very much be seen as someone who could fetch a very high price in, say, 2 years – rather than an okay one this summer.

However, if we don't get incoming investment, I expect he'll be off.

Barry Hesketh
121 Posted 11/02/2023 at 20:51:11
The lad has just scored another goal for PSV, a header from a corner.
Danny O’Neill
122 Posted 12/02/2023 at 08:32:49
Thank you for that, Francis.

Hopefully the Blues will eventually give you a better experience. They will. They've given me so many emotions throughout my life but the ones I remember are unbelievable and unforgettable.

Sittard and Rotterdam. Those days will come back and you'll get the chance to see them.

Off track but because you mentioned it, I spent a few years in Lincoln and although not in Holland, I was based in Germany in Kreis Heinsberg, very close to the border. Our local was actually on the Netherlands side and our most convenient town Roermond. We visit every year.

Favourite Dutch town has to be Delft. Not too far from Rotterdam!! Lovely place and I'd recommend it to anyone.

It's great to see Jarrad progressing. Let's get him back to Everton.

Bring him home. And let's get Lewis Warrington involved in the first-team squad as well.

Francis van Lierop
123 Posted 12/02/2023 at 11:03:02
Barry @121 has beaten me to it.

Yes, he scored again, and had another good game against bottom-of-the-league FC Groningen. Their new manager bounce was less successful than ours, 6-0 for PSV.

Sterner opposition awaits PSV coming Thursday, Sevilla away in the Europa League.

Ruud van Nistelrooy was singing the praises for Jarrad after the midweek game:

"He grabbed his chance fantastically after the pre-season.
He is complete, he has speed, is tall, can pass a ball well over distance, and is still only 20. He's not the finished article yet."

As an aside, John Heitinga has become caretaker coach of Ajax, after Alfred Schreuder, Ten Hag's successor, was sacked.

Not doing badly, winning the first two games.

Francis van Lierop
124 Posted 12/02/2023 at 12:31:38
Reading on, it's clear that PSV wants the player, and till now Everton have not played ball.

A complicating matter could be the possible relegation.

Although Jarrad is optimistic in that regard. He keeps in touch with his fellow Evertonians, he knows how Sean Dyche can get results: From my old team-mates I only hear good things about Dyche.

PSV do not have an option to buy, which complicates the matters for them, as other clubs are now aware of his qualities.

Three clubs had scouts watching last Wednesday: Liverpool, Man Utd and AS Roma.

James Flynn
125 Posted 12/02/2023 at 15:54:14
Jarrad was hardly a secret.

If we kept him instead of loaning him out, other clubs still would be scouting him.

And the numbers quoted would be Premier League ones. Not £15 million.

As in everything else financial with Everton, we need to stay up.

Come the Summer, Jarrad is back in camp. It's certainly possible that none of Keane, Holgate, or Godfrey will want to leave over the next 2 seasons. Tarkowski certainly won't.

That's at least £300k per week in wages.

Might be we have to sell him. Or just put him in the First XI and see what happens with the other three not playing.

Rob Halligan
126 Posted 12/02/2023 at 16:01:02
If we avoid relegation, then Branthwaite will be an Everton player next season.
Simon Harrison
127 Posted 12/02/2023 at 16:24:19
Unfortunately, the selling way has been the Everton way since we sold Alan Ball, then onto Big Dunc (McKenzie), Lineker, Duncan Ferguson, Don Hutchison, who was sent to Sunderland, Rooney of course, and many, many more.

If, and it is a HUGE IF this club has any genuine aspirations of being a top flight club in the next 5-7 seasons, then we have to start by tying Pickford down until we at least source a repalcement for him (and no, not an unknown 20-year-old Danish lad, untested in any of the top five leagues).

We need to bed Jarrad in at left centre-back, as the mainstay of the spine, and we have to resist selling Onana come what may...

I can see pigs strapping on flying helmets and goggles now, and the sounds of aircraft being readied for take-off, and the tinkle of cups being put down on saucers...

I doubt very much that any of those three named current players will be playing in the Royal Blue of Everton next season.

Instead, we'll have to make do with hand-me-downs from elsewhere, or 'trust in the kids'...

I would lament the state of the club, but as a few posters have already noted over the last 2 or 3 months or so, the decline of Everton started when Catterick made two mistakes: giving his blessing on getting rid of Alan Ball, and becoming obsessed with Shankly, and the rs from Mordor...

I know we can, and should in all honesty stay up, but I just want Kenwright gone, Barrett-Baxendale gone, and Moshiri out, and kindly leave the keys behind too.

I'm sick of the fact we get excited about finding players, or in this case, as Darren Hind will note (nb: Not a dig Dazza, just credit where due), it was Unsworth who spotted Jarrad, and Marcel who reeled him in.

I despair I really should, but at least we'll get to see a second win this decade at Anfield tomorrow, 1-2 after going a goal down... Never giver a sucker an even break (Klopp), and always keep your foot on the throat!


Danny O’Neill
128 Posted 12/02/2023 at 16:31:23

I don't disagree with your viewpoint, but right now I've been sleepless for a few nights thinking about tomorrow night.

Let's get that out of the way, because I'm fretting like a puppy in kennels for first time.

I totally understand your point though.

Alan McGuffog
129 Posted 12/02/2023 at 16:41:41
Francis remember being at the Feyenoord game at Goodison all those years ago. The Dutch lads made some noise and then they started to sing that dirge from across the park, presumably to wind us up. The reply from Gwladys St was a chant of Ajax Ajax...( English pronunciation, as in the floor cleaner )
The first time I have seen a body of supporters react as one entity. Ooo they were cross

Simon Harrison
130 Posted 12/02/2023 at 17:21:35
I know what you mean, Danny.

Life's been complicated over the last few weeks by being involved in a car accident. (I was stationary at a roundabout when a kind gentleman behind decided that my car would make a useful set of buffers for his!)

Anyway, I've tried to keep up as best I can, with all the football goings on; but, other than thinking about how we beat Liverpool tomorrow night has been all I can think about, when I can think.

Robertson to score a scraggy rebound goal first, then a headed goal by Doucoure to make up for last week, and the winner by Ellis Simms, getting on the end of a cross, just as his number is being readied on the sidelines, to bring on Calvert-Lewin!

I really do despair of all things Everton, other than trying to get behind the team. I've even been thinking of getting down to the city, to watch the games in a local hostelry, rather than watching a stream on my laptop.

Other than that, for those who want to know the info regards the 'infamous' seven (or in reality, make that nine, like the Nine Nazgul!) Here is the definitive data from Sporttrac;

Everton's pay scale

Now, back to my darkened room, and pain relief. I would actually like the Robertson goal to be ruled out by the VAR for offside… but that never happens at Mordor!

Good wishes, all.

Simon Harrison
131 Posted 12/02/2023 at 17:33:46
Winston [#110],

Round of applause from me, as most successful clubs have a 'pay structure' in place.

Personally, all players should be paid a basic rate of pay, enhanced by;

Starting Appearances
Bench Spots
Subbed on/off
Goal/assist bonuses
Clean sheets

Other x-factors like defensive headers won or some such thing pay as well.

Win bonus

If you lose, only the goal/assist and save/deflection bonuses count. None of the factor stuff does; plus 5% of earnings goes into the 'fans pot'.

Overall percentage of effectiveness, ie, rather than being paid a bonus to do what you're paid to do, you get deductions for missed passes, needless backpasses etc – poor play in other words.

By doing it that way, the better you play and train and turn up, the better your pay. It'll keep players honest in my mind.

I keep having this debate with friends about how football has changed since Jimmy Hill broke the club's power hold on the players' earnings. I think it can be summed up in two ways:

If you've a teammate who is earning more than 3-4 times your wage, you'd just pass him the ball and say 'over to you';

And conversely, if you're being paid a fortune just for turning up a few times a week, then you're more inclined to let the 'oiks' do all the work...

Just my thoughts, from a simple lad in Lancashire, who should know better.

Shane Corcoran
132 Posted 12/02/2023 at 22:04:47

This is very funny. Assume it’s tonight.

Jerome Shields
133 Posted 13/02/2023 at 06:42:12
7 players on £100,000 per week and the Directors being second for remuneration in the Premier League, really says it all.

You could add that some of these players rarely play and that some of the Directors rarely manage the Club as it should be managed. The really sickening thing is how bare-faced they are about this.

Francis van Lierop
134 Posted 13/02/2023 at 13:16:13
Danny @122

In hindsight I should have gone to the Fortuna Sittard game, I missed out on the 85 team. Though listening to the second half live on Radio 2 was often exhilarating enough! Wow what a team that was.
Couldn't get tickets for the final. :(

I live above Alkmaar, so when Walter Smith's team came for a pre-season friendly, I jumped at the chance.
I struggled to remember the result, a game of absolute nothingness. AZ had started training a week earlier, their fitness helped them to win. 3-1 I think, not too sure though.

Alan @129
Haha, I remember that incident well.
We were sat to the right of you on the main stand, quite near your end.
It was brilliant. In front of us some young lad went absolute nuts, ready for a strait jacket.
Years later, the Feyenoord supporting mate who I went to the match with, started about Everton 'hooligans' singing Ajax, I had to correct him.
He had no idea that singing that horrible dirge was a provocation.
I said to him, why can't you be more original?
I knew the answer to that, Lee Towers, a crane driver in the docks fancied himself as a second rate Frank Sinatra, and scored a hit over here with that song.
Even Celtic use that dirge too...

John Belshaw
136 Posted 16/02/2023 at 14:34:31
Of course he’ll be sold by the Everton board just as soon as any reasonable offer comes in. Selling all decent players has been the trend at Everton ever since Kenwright appeared on the scene. And they’re usually sold substantially under potential market value - Wayne Rooney, Romelu Lukaku and Richarlison immediately spring to mind!
Rob Halligan
137 Posted 16/02/2023 at 20:27:35
Branthwaite currently playing for PSV away at Sevilla in the Europa League.Game is on BT Sport 2.
Alan McGuffog
138 Posted 16/02/2023 at 20:40:44
Jarrad...swim fast...get the feck away from the sinking ship. It'll drag you down son
Phill Thompson
139 Posted 16/02/2023 at 21:06:19
Ive watched his first half against Sevilla, pretty faultless really. The goal Sevilla scored just before the break was interesting. Jarrad hung back a bit to cover another Sevilla player so the pass across goal was turned in. I think under Dyche a midfielder would have covered back allowing Branthwaite to get back into the box as a spare defender and potentially cut out the cross the way Tarks does. I’m sure Dyche can say to him “ Listen, I can make you into an even better PL centre back.”
Rob Halligan
140 Posted 16/02/2023 at 21:17:08
PSV are being blown away now. Two stunning goals early by Sevilla in the second half have almost put this tie beyond the reach of PSV.
Francis van Lierop
141 Posted 17/02/2023 at 13:19:19
PSV really shot themselves in the foot yesterday, needing a near miracle to beat Sevilla to qualfy for te next round.
That pass from Luuk de Jong (ex- Sevilla..), outside foot straight to a Sevilla player...for their first goal.

Jarrad should have recognised now that his future does not lie in Eindhoven.

Francis van Lierop
142 Posted 18/02/2023 at 09:10:45
What I forgot to mention, Sean Dyche gave Jarrad a ring.
Francis van Lierop
143 Posted 19/02/2023 at 18:36:56
Jarrad had a less fortunate match today.
FC Utrecht away can be a tricky fixture, especially after the drubbing PSV got midweek in Sevilla.
They were 1-2 up when a shot unluckily took a deflection from in between Jarrad's legs for the equalizer, 2-2.
Minutes later he was lucky to get away with a yellow, with a reckless challenge.
He was clever enough to lower his legs on time, to avoid the red.
Frustration, for the goal..

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