Patterson may not have clarity on his injury for days

24/09/2022 57comments  |  Jump to last

The full-back has tweeted "so far, so good" on his injury as he awaits a full diagnosis from a specialist on Tuesday

Updated  Nathan Patterson may not know the extent of the injury he sustained on international duty in midweek until Tuesday at the earliest but there are signs that the damage might not be as bad as first feared.

According to the Daily Record in Scotland, the Everton full-back will see a specialist on Tuesday to have the problem fully assessed and, while the immediate issue seemed to concern his knee, the report from north of the Border suggests he might have injured the same ankle as the one in which he tore ligaments in training at the end of March.

That came just days before he was set to make his Premier League debut for the Blues following his £11m move from Rangers last January and the subsequent operation he underwent prematurely ended his 2021-22 season.

However, he went straight into Frank Lampard's starting XI for the season opener against Chelsea last month and hasn't looked back, emerging as a genuine star in Everton's improving side.

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Patterson has already withdrawn from Scotland's squad for the remainder of the current international break and flew back to Merseyside on Thursday to have initial scans done on his injury but while both he and the club face a frustrating wait for a diagnosis from a top specialist before a timeline on his return can be determined, the player himself has offered a glimmer of positivity.

Scotland boss Steve Clarke told the Record that he had had no update on the 20-year-old's condition since left the Scottish camp but Patterson posted on Twitter this evening that is “so far, so good,” in terms of his leg, presumably because the swelling has eased.

“[K]eeping fingers crossed for positive news this week,” he continued. Additionally, there are reports in Scotland that the injury might not be as bad as first feared and that Patterson is likely looking an absence of weeks rather than months. 


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Colin Glassar
1 Posted 24/09/2022 at 07:08:20
With our terrible record of getting players back from injury, he’ll probably miss most of this season.

Are we cursed or simply useless at avoiding, and recovering from, injuries to our players?

Terry Farrell
2 Posted 24/09/2022 at 07:42:37
Colin, he's played 7 games on the bounce and trained throughout – it's bad luck. What's frustrating is the way it happened in a poxy international friendly Nations League match.

The lack of information coming from Scotland was alarming. The sort of report you'd get from a Sunday league outfit!

Lyndon Lloyd
3 Posted 24/09/2022 at 07:45:37
I'm not sure getting players back from injury has been a consistent problem – most return around the time predicted, Calvert-Lewin being an obvious exception but he is clearly suffering from a number of knock-on injuries from the really bad one he sustained last year.

Patterson's injury for Scotland just looks like bad luck rather than the result of anything Everton could have done to avoid it. In that sense, yes, we may well be cursed!

James Newcombe
5 Posted 24/09/2022 at 08:07:22
I really wish the season wasn't broken up by so much international football. There's just no need for it, especially friendlies (and I include the Nations League in that). Fewer games are needed, not more and more.
Michael Lynch
6 Posted 24/09/2022 at 10:22:06
Depressing news. It was bad enough to hear that he'd damaged his knee, but if his ankle has gone again too, then I think we have a major problem.

Football can be a terrible profession. The lad is young, has hardly played any first-team football, yet has cemented a place not just in his National team but also for a Premier League team. Imagine how it feels if he's told – for a second time in a matter of months – that he has a fairly major injury?

Obviously, we have Coleman, but if this turns out to be on the worst side of estimates, Patterson could be out a long time and Lampard will be looking for alternatives. Especially if there's a chance that this is a recurring ankle problem.

John Kavanagh
7 Posted 24/09/2022 at 10:43:05
Looks horribly like another Bolasie job, a potential career wrecker. The fact that even the full extent of the injury still cannot be determined is ominous to say the least.

The compensation of wages being paid where a player is injured on international duty is as worthless to us as it was with the loss of Coleman.

At least Southgate is doing his level best to ensure the early return of Pickford and Coady from the Fifa bribefest in Qatar. Only a true genius would have the best pool of midfield and attacking talent in Europe and yet go for a sterile 3-4-3 built around Harry 'Do you know who I am' Maguire.

Peter Neilson
8 Posted 24/09/2022 at 10:44:20
Bad news but some reports stating he has already had scans and the results were inconclusive hence the specialist seeing him on Tuesday. Optimistically could this mean it is a lesser injury than feared? Let’s hope so.
Brian Murray
9 Posted 24/09/2022 at 10:51:04
Feel for the lad if he ends up like bolasie but Everton come first and I’m sure Thelwell will have a classy replacement lined up if need be.
Michael Kenrick
10 Posted 24/09/2022 at 11:11:37
Michael Ball has said this about Patterson's delayed start to his Everton career last season:

“When Nathan signed, the club was in a relegation battle and that's why he was always going to find it difficult to walk straight into a Premier League side.

“Okay, it was a Premier League side who were under-achieving, who were struggling but Nathan was a young lad trying to adapt to a new club. Maybe Frank felt it would be too risky to throw him straight in there.

“I think he was protecting him because the bottom line is Nathan has been signed to play a part in the future of Everton Football Club. Throwing him straight in at that time could have been damaging to his career so Frank felt it was better to wait.

“It would have been tough for Nathan. He was signed by another manager who was relieved of his duties pretty quickly. The club was all over the shop at that time. Fans were split on the board, on the previous manager.

“There was a toxic environment at Goodison Park and the fans felt a disconnect with the team. And that's what Nathan walked into.

“Fortunately Frank realised that and has managed to get the fans behind the boys now by saving the club from relegation. There's a unity to the club now.”

It's probably as good a rationale as any. I do recall it seeming strange at the time that Lampard put the lad on the bench but would not play him for the best part of 3 months before he sustained that ankle injury at the end of training when he was all set to make his Premier League debut against West Ham in early April.

Ray Smith
11 Posted 24/09/2022 at 11:11:57
Too much guessing going on. As yet, there is insufficient information to confirm the severity of the injury! I wish him a speedy recovery, but he shouldn't be rushed back.

We have Tarkowski, Coady, Mykolenko, Keane!!, Coleman who are experienced enough to adjust to a back 3. Mina and Holgate should be ready in the near future. Let's be positive. 🤞🤞🤞

John Pickles
12 Posted 24/09/2022 at 11:17:55
I think every Evertonian can diagnose it now, it's a bad injury.

When have we ever had a diagnosis come back for an important player where it's ever been anything other than about as bad as it can be?

David West
13 Posted 24/09/2022 at 11:32:12
I too don't believe we have a problem getting players back from injuries. Calvert-Lewin had several issues one after the other.

One thing he has on his side is youth. An older player may find it harder to recover from bad injuries. He came back so strongly from the surgery at the end of last season, let's hope he can do it again. They are made of strong stuff, them Glaswegians.

Meanwhile we do have a transfer window coming so if it turns out to be long -term maybe there is scope to bring another young lad in to back-up Coleman.

Maybe a couple of exits too? I mean Mina? Allan? Maybe Davies? These are going to find game time hard to come by.
Mina may be a better defender than Keane but just not available enough.

Lee Courtliff
14 Posted 24/09/2022 at 12:24:17
Didn't Stanley Mills play right-wingback for us in pre-season?

We all know Seamus will come in but, if he struggles again, I'd much prefer us to stick with the 4-3-3 and play Mills at right-back than revert to the 3-5-2/5-2-3 formation.

Best of luck to Nathan, hopefully it's not as bad as feared. He looks a very good player already.

Christy Ring
15 Posted 24/09/2022 at 13:14:10
Still don't know the extent of the injury, also concerned about his ankle, which had him sidelined for two months at the end of the season. Hope it's a short term injury, but doesn't sound promising. Seamus probably playing two games for Ireland over the next few days, which should get him match fit, wants he returns unscathed.
Justin Doone
16 Posted 24/09/2022 at 13:47:46
Thanks to Coleman we know how this story unfolds.

Injuries are bad luck mixed with occasional errors. I put this in the Godfrey category.

The best defenders rarely make mistakes or go to ground. It's a little harsh but this could have been avoided and yet it's the type of play / tackle that 90% of the time wouldn't be remembered.

Certainly his young age can help in a quick and full recovery but he needs rest, time, the correct diagnosis and treatment.

I think too many players over-do recovery sessions in the gym which may help give muscle bulk and strength but covers over the actual ligament damage that needs flexibility and rest rather than muscle work.

I'm excepting weeks to become months. Thank God for the World Cup break!

Would Iwobi now be the cover due to other injuries, Doucoure in the centre? We need pace and energy on the flanks so please not Davies as emergency right back.

Ben King
17 Posted 24/09/2022 at 13:58:33
Massive shame because he's arguably been the stand-out player for us this season. Personally each appearance has merited genuine ‘wow' given he's 20 and relatively inexperienced.

He's a future star if he can avoid injuries. Just have to hope it's not too bad.

Barry Williams
18 Posted 24/09/2022 at 13:58:56
I said it on the other Patterson thread - besides Coleman - who we have to be careful with too - he is coming back of an injury - the answer to the RB issue could be Tom Davies!

He has played there before - and looked pretty good. CMs often can convert to RB quite easily - Harper, Neville, Snodin - even this!

''When Howard Kendall first brought him into the side Stevens was a left-sided midfielder but he was quickly converted into a marauding right-back.''

So, not so weird me thinks.

Justin Doone - 16. We posted at the same time. I think Davies would do a decent job.

It would mean the current formation and an extra player in a problem position.

Justin Doone
19 Posted 24/09/2022 at 14:29:09
I like Davies but I remember him being played as a full-back before.

It's a No for me as he lacks pace, strength and aerial ability which all defenders, especially full-backs, are required to have so they don't get skinned alive.

Likewise, I'd never consider playing Allan there either.

I'm not convinced by Iwobi, especially since he's actually playing well in midfield, but he is stronger and has the pace and stamina to do the 'shuttle runs' the full-back or wing-back positions require. Especially with 2 slow centre-backs!

Hopefully another reserve can step up, possibly a free agent could be found.

Mike Gaynes
20 Posted 24/09/2022 at 15:38:14
Wow, we have two guys who remember Davies playing right back. Window into an alternate universe, maybe?
Kim Vivian
21 Posted 24/09/2022 at 16:53:05
A little unfortunate how the number on his shirt has morphed into a 'Z' in the picture given the opposition.

It has to be Coleman filling that slot for me. Whoever it is... do not move Iwobi from where he has been playing so well.

Kieran Kinsella
22 Posted 24/09/2022 at 17:01:05

I remember Davies playing at right-back once. It was a few years back.

Bill Gall
23 Posted 24/09/2022 at 17:06:27
I do not understand why it is taking so long to diagnose what the actually injury is. It is either his knee or his ankle and surely you don't need a high-profile specialist to determine where the injury is.

If, as they are saying, they are waiting for a specialist to determine what the treatment will be, then that sounds serious and he will be missing till after the World Cup.

And is Calvert-Lewin injured or not? I see his return is listed in October. Does he have a serious problem or was it just an injury that was picked up in training at Finch Farm that seems to occur fairly regularly.

It would be nice to let the supporters know as we would rather be aware of how long he will be out, rather than speculating if he is, or if he isn't fit. We keep getting told that they understand the supporters but lack of information shows they don't.

Lee Courtliff
24 Posted 24/09/2022 at 17:28:59
I have a vague memory of him playing right-back but I can't think who it was against. Did we have a man sent off and he moved there out of necessity?

I can't remember us actually starting a game with him at right-back.

Kieran Kinsella
25 Posted 24/09/2022 at 17:50:06

I have been researching. So far, I've found he played right-wingback v Leeds in November 2020.

Lee Courtliff
26 Posted 24/09/2022 at 20:01:33

I've looked at the line up for that game and it looks as though we played Davies at right-wingback and Iwobi at left-wingback!!

Dear me.

Si Cooper
27 Posted 24/09/2022 at 20:02:51
If it counts for anything, my vote would be a definite no for Tom Davies at right-back. Got to be at least two better options.
Tony Everan
28 Posted 24/09/2022 at 20:22:21
Scottish Express Sport saying a source close to Patterson ‘injury not as bad a first feared and will not be out long term just a matter of weeks’. Still tests to be done on Tuesday to make sure.

Promising news.

Paul Swan
29 Posted 24/09/2022 at 20:22:56
Some Reports in Scottish newspapers that the injury is not as bad a first thought and he may not be missing for too long. Hope this proves to be true.
Stephen Davies
30 Posted 24/09/2022 at 20:36:56
He's just tweeted about it.

He appeared positive.

Tony Hill
31 Posted 24/09/2022 at 20:44:23
Stephen @30, mate if that's true I will be overjoyed. He's such a promising talent.
Stephen Davies
32 Posted 24/09/2022 at 20:57:21

So far so good. Keeping fingers cross for some positive news next week.

Kris Boner
33 Posted 24/09/2022 at 21:02:34
Well obviously we all have them crossed too. We all love Seamus but we can only hope that he is deputising till the World Cup and not after it
Tony Hill
34 Posted 24/09/2022 at 21:11:46
There are wider suggestions that it isn't bad but that the consultant on Tuesday is required to confirm.

If he/we get away with this one then it will be part of that slowly growing sense that the Gods are turning Blue.

Let us pray.

Brian Murray
35 Posted 24/09/2022 at 21:19:58
Even if we get away with this injury and it's short term, is there something we can avoid or look into as it seems abnormal the amount of knocks we get?

I don't know how we compare to other clubs but we can't go a month without some drama or another. We've changed medical teams, so that's not it… or are we just cursed until we get away from Goodison Park.

Rob Halligan
36 Posted 24/09/2022 at 21:21:45
Fuck off Kenny……………Seamus Coleman coming on, and still 13 minutes to play. 🫣🫣
Bobby Mallon
37 Posted 24/09/2022 at 21:39:08
Just play Vinagre there – he's played it before.
Brian Hennessy
38 Posted 24/09/2022 at 21:48:11
Thankfully Seamus Coleman survived tonight's feisty encounter with Scotland unscathed.
Danny O’Neill
39 Posted 24/09/2022 at 22:51:35
I keep forgetting about Vinagre, Bobby.

Let's see what Tuesday brings. Rosary beads in hands. Hopefully this isn't too bad as he was really starting to impress.

I personally don't think we'll see him until after the World Cup, but I think we can cope until then.

I'd rather we didn't rush him back only to break down again.

Tony Hill
40 Posted 24/09/2022 at 22:59:20
I think Vinagre is an interesting player but successful left-footed right-backs are not common. In fact, I can't think of one off the top of my head. He may still be worth a go but Coleman is the obvious replacement.

You do get the converse working: Maldini etc.

Barry Williams
41 Posted 25/09/2022 at 01:42:43
Justin Doone @19,

You might be right… but, he is right-footed, has played in right-midfield too and would have 2 experienced centre-backs next to him, so it could work, just my opinion.

As suggested, there is Vinagre, after all we did have Cuco Martina playing left back not so long ago!

Mike Gaynes @20, it happened – if briefly. Alternative universe – these days I think that is called reality!!!!

Martin Reppion
42 Posted 25/09/2022 at 11:31:48
This could be a real thread for the oldies. Right-footed left-backs...

Mick Mills, Phil Neville, Neil McDonald, they're my starters.

Danny O’Neill
43 Posted 25/09/2022 at 11:34:57
Phil Neville and Neil McDonald one for the oldies, Martin?

You've just made me feel ancient.

Chris Williams
44 Posted 25/09/2022 at 12:21:48
Sandy Brown, Keith Newton, Van Den Hauwe?
Danny O’Neill
45 Posted 25/09/2022 at 12:39:40
Chris, now you've just opened a debate.

Van den Hauwe. An iconic figure adored by many, myself included. A hero of my childhood. Amongst many things, I still vividly remember him flooring David Speedy and scoring that rare goal to clinch the title.

A long but memorable trip back from Norwich to Speke. Champions. Hand it over, Liverpool!

Was he the best full-back or footballer though? In my lifetime, the most complete left-back I've seen play for Everton was Leighton Baines.

But we love our Psycho Pat!!

Dave Carruthers
46 Posted 25/09/2022 at 12:40:35
Dare we mention Henry Newton, a right-footed midfielder mysteriously bought as backup or replacement for Kendall, and who sort of became another right-footed left-back to replace namesake Keith Newton, who was another right-footed left-back. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Chris Williams
47 Posted 25/09/2022 at 13:02:08
TE Jones is another one for the list.
Chris Williams
48 Posted 25/09/2022 at 13:07:06

Baines is the best modern era left back I've seen, Ray Wilson was the best I saw in olden times, and acknowledged as best in the world too.

Mykolenko has the 2 best English left-backs of their generation to talk to on a daily basis.

Alan McGuffog
49 Posted 25/09/2022 at 13:12:40

Ramon was my all-time favourite Blue. Given he was the only Blue in the 1966 World Cup Final, it would be lovely to have him remembered in some way at Bramley-Moore Dock.

Chris Williams
50 Posted 25/09/2022 at 13:44:52
I’m all for that Chris. Great idea.
Paul Kossoff
51 Posted 25/09/2022 at 16:21:47

Scottish Express Sport can reveal that the injury is not serious. There will be some major checks done on Tuesday at hospital, but it is our understanding that the exciting full back will only be missing for a short period of time which will be music to Frank Lampard's ears as Patterson has been a top performer since the start of the Premier League season.

A source close to Patterson told us: “The injury is not as bad as first feared but he will see a specialist on Tuesday for confirmation.”

Patterson has returned to Merseyside and is back at Finch Farm to assess the injury. No official word has been released by Everton but that should be happening in the next couple of days.

Tony Hill
52 Posted 25/09/2022 at 18:12:34
Alan @49, a brilliant idea. Wilson's positional sense, among other strengths, was extraordinary. A statue is richly deserved for the reason you give, and also because he was just fabulous to watch.
Brian Murray
53 Posted 26/09/2022 at 12:33:54
Psycho Pat was a step up from John Bailey and the best left-back I've seen. My memory is a bit hazy over Keith Newton. The likes of Dennis Stevens, Mick Meagan, Ray Wilson were before my time. Apologies if they weren't all left-backs.
Dale Self
54 Posted 26/09/2022 at 17:19:43
Thanks, Paul. Very kind of you to post that.

Mykolenko helped set up Ukraine's first goal Saturday so we're better off than thought.

Bill Watson
55 Posted 26/09/2022 at 17:37:04
Ray Wilson by a country mile! He was also one of the first of the, so called, overlapping full-backs.
Alan McGuffog
57 Posted 27/09/2022 at 14:44:48

I read earlier he's our for 6 weeks which will take us up to the Beckham Games.

Trying to be positive it'll mean he'll have plenty of recuperation time before the Boxing Day game. Hopefully.

Brian Murray
58 Posted 27/09/2022 at 15:02:38

I thought that was just Paul Joyce's opinion.

I suppose it's better than the first fears, eh?

Brent Stephens
59 Posted 28/09/2022 at 11:02:45
EFC say 4-5 weeks. Not as bad as feared?

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