Permanent Coady deal would cost £4.5m

Many would be interested to sign him purely for only increased wages (and maybe a sign-on fee) next summer, I think.

I'm seeing conflicting reports on that. Sportrac have his contract ending in 2025 while others say 2023. So maybe they mean his Everton loan contract ends in 2023?

Can we sign a player who we have on loan on a permanent now, seeing as we are out of the transfer window? Pretty sure I've heard of a player signing for the club he's on loan at out of the window before, so we should get this done ASAP.

I'm now wondering where the £4.5 million figure came from, as what was originally quoted was either £12m or between £10-12m depending on source. No complaints with the lower figure though...

It's kind of weird then to have a "buy clause" once his contract expires. I guess it's some sort of back-end thing whereby we avoided paying the fee upfront?

Centre-half is one area of the pitch where you can comfortably go on performing at a good level until mid-30s.

Coady isn't 30 until next year and I can see him being our modern-day Alan Stubbs, Phil Jagielka, David Weir figure.

As I say, no-brainer that just needs doing ASAP.

How many times have we seen loan players overperform and then relax when they get a permanent contract?

At the moment, things are working well for all sides… so I wouldn't change a thing until we have to.

Talk about an easy call. Find the money under the sofa cushions and seal the deal.

Thelwell is awesome. And Wolves fans will be bitter about Lage's judgement for years to come.

Coady signed a new contract lasting to June 2023, so he can still be recalled by Wolves at the end of this season then?

We have an option to buy in the loan contract, so if we exercise that option within the time frame, we sign him.

His boy plays for the club and he sounds delighted to be here so I think him signing on permanently is a formality, especially at £4.5M.

It was one of the deals of the summer that Thelwell pulled off there.

I just found this on the Wolves' fan Twitter page, posted by a guy named Darren Thacker:

They said he was a Scouser
It turned out to be true
His name is Conor Coady
And now he is a Blue

He left the mighty Wanderers
To go to Everton
And now we really miss him
We wish he would return

Ole Ole Ole...

The previous version, which was sung at Molineux:

They say that he's a scouser,
He's really gold & black
His name is Conor Coady,
He's the leader of our pack.

The lad is fucking magic,
He's Wanderers through and through,
He hates the fucking Albion,
The Villa and the Blues!!

Allez, Allez, Allez!!!!!!

The Coady deal is a loan with the option to buy at an agreed fee which is £4.5 million. So, provided Coady wants to stay and Everton are willing to pay the fee, there is nothing Wolves can do about it.

In both cases, a great bit of work by Everton – usually it's us that get the poor end of the deal but these are both win-win deals.

Until Coady signed for us, I couldn't stand the man —
big-mouthed gobby Red Shite, IMO.

But now? Love him to bits. He's one of us.

(Not that we can exactly cast stones, given we did the exact same thing with Digne – only in that case Benitez was sacked like two days later... though the whole thing actually worked out nicely for us for once!)

A real leader who seems to sweat blood for whichever team he plays for. Plus he only played about two games over at Mount Doom so we'll let him off and no more said...

Very true, but the difference was Digne had been in poor form for over a year and Coady absolutely not. He's exactly the type of centre-half we have needed for years.

Proper captain material COYB

Although £4.5M does not have the same ring as "Sixty Grand, Sixty Grand, Seamus Coleman".

Hopefully we'll get a few more years out of them than we did Gough, who was about 37 or 38 when we signed him.

Good Times!! UTFT!!!!!

This is great news and impetus to keep the form and to do the business on Sunday night, and beat Man Utd.

Get this done ASAP.

The fella is an absolute gem; another big win for Thelwell.

Recruitment of players but especially those around the age of 30 always entails a degree of risk. More than ever at Premier League level it is vital to assess their fitness, injury record, appearances, level of performance and appetite for the game.

Everything I have seen and read about Coady suggests he is not the type of character who will allow his level to drop. Indeed the evidence suggests he will redouble his efforts to stay at the top level. Therefore I don’t think we need to hold fire and wait for him to ‘earn’ a permanent contract.

This is Everton: within a week of it happening, he'll be injured and out for the rest of the season.

Tony Hill: I believe it; another Naismith.

John Rafferty: I was a doubter too.

John Pickles: you're totally right, mate.

I'm no visionary, I don't often claim 'I told you so'. Who can do in the unpredictable world of football that us mortals don't control?

But I did call out Coady 2 years ago as a suggestion when I got told centre-back wasn't a priority. In all honesty, I was equally concerned about leadership – or lack of it.

I'm enjoying watching Everton again. But then I always do. But now, this team has character and the supporters are responding to it. I got told last night that other supporters don't like us.

Fine by me. Maybe the plucky little Everton and "you lot are okay" days are coming to an end.

Blue boys on the rise.

Get Coady signed and we're set at centre-back for at least 3 years.

Just do it!

At £4.5million, Coady is an absolute bargain – Thelwell has played a blinder.

That lad can rip up trees.

Place this in the checkout ready to buy but just making sure he doesn't pick up a serious injury before we commit column.

What the actual fuck were Wolves thinking??

Jay Harris at 11 - great post. Permanent signing at season's end. Play for the contract, and let's make sure he doesn't get injured prior to signing him up longer-term.

Could be a good thread here - Players who were sold for stupidly low amounts of money.

If Thelwell and Lampard can just add that little touch of creativity in January, it would be nice. A real "No 10" (yuk did I just type that?), a creative, goal-scoring midfield player is what's missing now, IMO.

Tarkowski is a leader. Coady is the leader. Both have been at the club 5 minutes, yet I would imagine are already dominating the dressing room.

I noticed on a couple of occasions last week that Tarkowski basically told Pickford to do one and took control of the situation. Coady is a bit more cultured and actually really good on the ball. They complement each other and, once Godfrey is back, he will learn a lot from them and be able to step in. Likewise Holgate.

For those who perceived him as too cocky, nothing wrong with that. But I think these two will channel that enthusiasm in the right direction.

How do you know the Juventus obligation is water tight on Kean with no get-out?

I agree that local press reports (which are usually more accurate than national ones) seem to agree with you and there has been no mention of a risk to Everton that Juventus can renege. However, as I seem to recall some caveats included when the loan was first reported, so I've googled and looked back at the reports initially.

One report I've found states that a "statement from Juve said the club have agreed to a loan deal, expiring in 2023, for €7m from Everton and then an obligation to sign if Kean meets various objectives by the end of the 2022-23 campaign. The fee if the move is made permanent would be an initial €28m, payable over a three-year period, plus a further €3m in add-ons."

What worries me is what these "various objectives" are? Goals? Appearances? Staying sober? I'm hoping I'm completely wrong but it would 'Everton that', wouldn't it??

It's from Southampton last week, and apart from anything else, it shows Conor Coady barking out instructions, not during the game itself, but during one of the warm-up routines and also as both teams are lining up prior to the “Handshakes”.

Whether he's on loan or not, Coady should be captain when Seamus is not available. Obviously Seamus will be captain against Man Utd tomorrow but, when Patterson returns, if he gets back in that is, then give the captain's armband to Coady.

I've nothing against Pickford being captain, other than the fact he plays in goal, but Coady has that Scouse arrogance about him, he seems to be able to really motivate and drive his teammates on, in effect doing the manager's job on the pitch. I can fully understand the Wolves fans being annoyed with him being allowed to leave their club.

It was also telling that as soon as we went a goal down he was straight away whipping them back into shape.

No feeling sorry for yourselves. Get your heads up.

About 5 minutes later I think I nearly fainted.

Centre-half seemed to be not so much a problem area if Godfrey was improving with age and Mina stayed fit (obviously naive for thinking that). When those two got injured, it seemed so incredibly Everton.

Then Coady arrives and, in my opinion, he has transformed us defensively. I hadn't really seen him too much previously in much detail, but I love what he has brought to us.

We absolutely have to sign him permanently.

We are no longer an absolute soft touch at set-pieces any more with those two around.

But what are his main defensive attributes? He's not particularly quick nor particularly tall (6'-1"), so he's not aerially dominant. I assume he reads the game well so he's good at anticipation but also he doesn't look particularly muscular…

What are his main attributes? Is he really that good and, if so, why?

I've always been suspicious of defenders making last-ditch challenges all the time. Often, if they were more positionally aware, they wouldn't have to.

Coady has that rare talent of not conceding goals without seemingly doing much. That's because he respects the art of defending and understands the importance of shape, communication and position.

Why Coady? Because he, as is said, "knows the cries" he knows what he's doing.

Defending, in simple terms, comes down to 2 things...

1) The Ball: attack the ball.

2) The Man: stop him getting to the ball or the space where the ball will be. The man can go past you or the ball can – but never both.

Football is a simple game, no fancy stepovers. He repeatedly does the simple things well.

To me he's of the same caste as our Dave Watson, Ratcliffe and Mountfield, a top pro determined to never ever shirk the muck and bullets side of football which, given the dickheads still in charge of us, is unfortunately a weekly demand for some time yet.

Good comparison with Watson, an ex-red who seemed to get on the score sheet v the RS as did Coady give or take the VAR. I'm not sure these days he could hang on till he's 39 but, if we can get 3 or 4 years out of him, he's worth his weight in gold. Definitely the most Dave Watson centre-back we've had since the OG.

COYB

Get him signed up, great attitude, decent defender and arguably the best finisher in the squad.

But in September 2020, after his first England cap, he signed a new contract lasting until June 2025.