James Garner out for at least 2 months

24/11/2022 36comments  |  Jump to last

It has been revealed that the back problem which kept James Garner out of Everton's Australia tour will need at least 2 months for recuperation and recovery.

The midfielder missed the Premier League game at Bournemouth with what was initially described as a knock. It was confirmed he had suffered a back issue when he failed to join the squad that travelled to Australia for the Sydney Super Cup.

Garner has not started any Premier League game for Everton since he was signed from Manchester United on transfer deadline day. But he is reportedly highly thought of by Lampard and his coaching team and there has been growing clamour from many fans to see him given greater opportunity for involvement in the first team.

But the Echo is now reporting that he will not be available to play again until around the end of January or beginning of February.

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Tom Davies and Yerry Mina, who missed the last game of the Australia tour through knee and hamstring injuries respectively, will both require a few weeks to recover and are expected to be fit when Everton play again on Boxing Day. 



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Rob Halligan
1 Posted 24/11/2022 at 09:32:33
Everton may have finished the Australia tour on a high note, but a low note coming out of the club is that Lampard thinks James Garner will be out until the end of January or early February due to his back injury.

Never rains but it pours when it comes to injuries with us. For those who care, Tom Davies and Yerry Mina should return to training in mid December, so should be available for the re-start.

Dave Abrahams
2 Posted 24/11/2022 at 09:43:56

Yes I had good hopes for Garner, it is a bit of a mystery James getting injured. He finished the game at Bournemouth, there didn’t seem to be an injury during the game, so was his another one caused in training? If so, there seems to be too many of these.

Brian Harrison
3 Posted 24/11/2022 at 10:07:57
The only good thing about Garner picking up this back injury now is with it being while the World Cup is on then we wont lose him for as many games as we would in a normal season. I think even more worrying is what we do with Dele Alli, saw a piece by Alan Stubbs yesterday and he says he can never remember a player lose his form like Dele. I believe he has been subbed in nearly every game he has played for Besiktas, and their manager doesnt fancy him at all. There is even talk about Besiktas wanting to end his loan in Jan rather than the summer.

So whether its Jan or the summer he will be back with us earning his £100,000 plus a week. Stubbs reckons he has no future at Everton so I guess the cycle of signing deadwood continues irrespective of who the manager is. Even though we are paying Besiktas a big chunk of Deles wages, I cant see to many clubs wanting to take him on loan when he comes back from Besiktas. Also bringing him on for cameos will only result in us paying Spurs for his services.

Danny O’Neill
4 Posted 24/11/2022 at 10:08:18
Big blow. We haven't even seen much of him, and I didn't take much notice of him prior, but he's given glimpses. I get the impression he could sit in what we now call the number 6 position; the defensive midfielder. But he seems to have a bit more about him than that. Likes to play forward (if we have options), so could develop into a box-to-box player?? I just don't know enough about him.

Another one that is still only 21 years old, so can be developed.

What is it with us? I thought the Finch Farm complex was built on the fields near Halewood where we used to occasionally take my then young son to pick Strawberrys as a Sunday treat. Not on top of and disturbed a Native American burial ground to curse ourselves.

Here's hoping Tom can get fit as well as Mina, even if the latter only manages his token 2 and a half games before breaking a toenail and being out for several weeks. We're going to need numbers going into the English version of the Ruckrunde.

Peter Hodgson
5 Posted 24/11/2022 at 10:09:19
Did we miss something before we signed him? It seems very strange that this has only cropped up now. What is the club saying?
Jim Wilson
6 Posted 24/11/2022 at 10:09:47
We need to strengthen the centre midfield and forward line day one of the Jan window.
Dave Abrahams
7 Posted 24/11/2022 at 10:14:12
Peter (5), on another website he is reported as having 44 games and 40 games in the last two seasons.
Brian Harrison
8 Posted 24/11/2022 at 10:20:24
Jim 6

I think the last place we need to strengthen is midfield, lets not forget Frank signed 4 midfield players in the summer window to add to Doucoure and Davies and the improving young lad Price. I hope whatever money we have we spend on forward players with proven goal scorers, as that's the area that has to be improved if we don't want another battle against relegation.

Pat Kelly
9 Posted 24/11/2022 at 10:39:06
Lampard never started him anyway. Preferring the likes of Davies. Says it all.
Roger Helm
10 Posted 24/11/2022 at 11:21:58
We need to lump the entire transfer budget, whatever it is, plus whatever we can get from sales, on a forward who can score goals. It worked out okay when we signed Lukaku.

We don't need any more central midfielders although someone who can make a forward pass would be welcome.

Kevin Molloy
11 Posted 24/11/2022 at 11:35:45
I can't believe this. Are we sure it's only 2 months, I thought it'll be the season surely?
John Pickles
12 Posted 24/11/2022 at 12:44:02
Kevin #11

You have to remember how this goes. He's out now for 2-3 months for 'recuperation and recovery', he then breaks down in training where they discover he needed surgery all along, then he's out for the season.

John Kavanagh
13 Posted 24/11/2022 at 12:47:13
Dave A @ 2.

More likely he has fallen out of the loft or tripped over a 'Keep off the grass' sign. Everton that.

Jim Bennings
14 Posted 24/11/2022 at 14:20:48
What is wrong with players these days?

Are they too fragile or is it just that Everton FC is the Frankenstein's Lab of football?

Seriously I remember when I first started watching football and most players would be regulars, week-in & week-out.

These days, they break a toe getting out of the swimming pool.

Eddie Dunn
15 Posted 24/11/2022 at 15:19:22
I read that James Garner also missed Man Utd's pre-season tour due to a "little injury" that didn't prevent him from doing some work in the gym.

I wonder?

Christy Ring
17 Posted 24/11/2022 at 16:24:25
If he's out for around 3 months, he must have done damage in the gym, it didn't happen in a game.
Tom Bowers
18 Posted 24/11/2022 at 16:26:33
Just when we seemed to have a legitimate option in midfield… this happens. Same old story: when you're down bad things happen.
Kieran Kinsella
19 Posted 24/11/2022 at 16:30:43
Another sick note, get rid.


Kevin Molloy
20 Posted 24/11/2022 at 17:09:16

Yes, that makes much more sense.

Will Mabon
22 Posted 24/11/2022 at 17:21:23
The Everton injury curse just keeps reaffirming itself. Not that we know the exact cause of this latest one yet but the effect is the same.

Jim @ 14 - someday someone in the club will address whatever is happening here. It's not just modern versus previous; we compare badly with just about all other clubs it seems.

Arsenal went through a phase of this some seasons back, stretching across 5+ years. They got out of it some way or other.

Joe McMahon
23 Posted 24/11/2022 at 17:45:59
The Curse of Goodison continues. The sooner we can move out of the antiquated relic, the better.

Apologies to those who love Goodison, but it's been decades since we've had any good luck or Bill's "Good Times".

Mike Doyle
24 Posted 24/11/2022 at 18:55:12
Danny 21,

I agree with everything you say. A friend of mine occasionally invites me to Stamford Bridge – and the number of overseas tourists in the crowd is noticeable (possibly more than at Anfield).

When l first moved to London 30+ years ago, I noticed how expensive a theatre ticket was compared to football. Nowadays, you can get a decent ticket for a good West End show for less. (And watch top Blues like Sam Hoare and George Costigan deliver performances that Dele Alli can only dream of!)

Personally I think football is very expensive for what it offers and I have been forecasting declining crowds for years now. However, sold-out Premier League matches and season ticket waiting lists strongly suggest I'm wrong.

I still find it hard to believe that attendances at Goodson today are higher than we achieved in the glory years of the mid-80s.

Paul Birmingham
25 Posted 24/11/2022 at 19:32:33
Bloody bad luck for James Garner as he looks a very capable and good footballer, who can cover, pass, shoot and tackle.

I think this will open the door for Isaac Price, at least as a starting regular in the squad. If he keeps his recent form and belief going, I think he has a good chance.

Interesting point, Danny, about the London clubs, and of note most of the pubs next to the old White Hart Lane have taken the knock.

A shame the Wilmslow, Royal Oak, Spellow, Brick, Top Hat and County Road pubs can't be lifted and shifted to the Bramley-Moore Dock area, but others will I'm sure be built, aside from the Bramley Moor pub, the Bull, Kerries Bar and then how far do you walk for pint, as for many, The Mons, wouldn't be too far to walk. Loads of scope to suit all.

I recall years ago a pub called the Brown Cow, long since gone, but Everton's new home will rejuvenate the North Docks area, and hopefully the Everton team will do justice to the new stadium and the legacy of Goodison Park.

Times change Everton must do so to survive, and be competing on a level or better par than the rest of the Premier League on and off the park.

But surely one day soon better times, consistency and good football are not too far away for Everton.

Jerome Shields
26 Posted 24/11/2022 at 20:26:11
I have always been wary of anyone that Everton get from Man Utd. They have been continuously trying to offload their problems to us season after season.

Any players we got from them rarely stood much play. Garner probably does have ability, but he has to be fit to play.

David Hayes
27 Posted 24/11/2022 at 20:50:42
James Garner, cost per unit and gain acquired, negative investment realization, current and short-term.

Long-term growth on acquisition outlay, based on initial performance data, substantial loss of outlay, no resale value.

Ian Edwards
28 Posted 24/11/2022 at 21:08:41
This injury is a disaster for the club as it means more of Gueye and Onana who are the Laurel and Hardy of midfielders. They don't protect and create nothing.

Unless Lampard gets one or both out of the team, we will be relegated. No doubt.

Graeme Beresford
29 Posted 24/11/2022 at 23:17:38
Paul @ 25.

I agree about the pubs. If I was one of the landlords there I would be trying my best to speak to Everton with some form of business plan. As in, help us relocate and for the next X amount of years you will take a percentage of our profits etc etc. I wonder if any have tried. Especially the likes of the Wimslow, I mean it’s a proper Everton pub which will probably go. The Royal Oak I imagine gets match day custom from Liverpool games?

As soon as there was rumours about our stadium I had a drive down to Bramley Moore. Using google I came across a building once belonging to a pub called the Sandon Lion. I remember thinking wow, I wonder how much that went for and if the owner is now kicking himself. Turns out it was sold in like 2013 for like 30k, and it’s now flats. I remember being like oh my god. That’s a goldmine now if it was still a pub.

I looked myself down there and had a bit of a pipe dream of opening a pub or bar down there but that’s all it really was having got no experience in the area, however I did pitch it to my Dad at one point, very Del Boy style.

Charles Brewer
30 Posted 25/11/2022 at 05:14:59
Just as well we got rid of Richarlison - who has just scored the best goal I have ever seen - for half the price of Grealish, but kept Gordon, and bought yet another crock from Manchester United.

This football club appears to have the intelligence of the Conservative Party’s energy policy ( let’s invest in something really expensive that doesn’t work at all when it’s needed, but does channel lots of money to our mates) combined with the work ethic of an NHS manager (permanently at home with “stress” issues) and the leadership of the USA since 2020, (a drooling senile destructive halfwit).

Colin Glassar
31 Posted 25/11/2022 at 07:18:04
Maybe you should dig up Maggie Thatcher to restore your faith in humanity, Charles.
Gary Johnson
32 Posted 25/11/2022 at 07:24:12
Ian #28 - I think half the problem is Lampards instructions to them. When he told them both to sit against Palace, we had our best game this year. Unfortunately though, he seems to give license to both to roam, and that’s disasterous.

That being said, I’d agree with you about just playing one. Tell Onana to sit in the 6, and put two ballers either side. Price/McNeil/Iwobi (or Garner when back) and get them playing quick balls forward. Bring on Gana and Doucoure if we’re ever lucky enough to go 2 up again to see it out.

Danny O’Neill
33 Posted 25/11/2022 at 08:24:50
For the sake of debate Ian Edwards, I'll spin that one.

How is the loss of a player that has barely featured a disaster?

And the other 2 midfielders mentioned combined with Iwobi. They can only create on what is in front of them.

There lies our problem.

Disaster? Undoubted relagation?

Last time I looked at the league table there are 23 games and 69 points to play for.

I'll be with the team week in, week out. As I am sure you will be. Relegation isn't undoubted. There is still a lot to play for, notwithstanding the FA Cup.

Mike Price
34 Posted 25/11/2022 at 10:48:19
Onana and Gueye in midfield just doesn’t work so this injury is a problem. Also I see reports of a massive pay rise for Iwobi….why ? He’s been rubbish for most of his time here, has improved to average, no other clubs appear interested yet we give him another millstone contract!
Worst run club in world football.
Paul O'Neill
35 Posted 26/11/2022 at 09:32:40
@Charles no.30. Not sure why a glut of political observations as a metaphor for Everton was relevant. And I’d try working in the NHS at any level before sneering at people’s mental health and why they’re off work.
Danny O’Neill
36 Posted 26/11/2022 at 09:45:57
We have been badly run for decades Mike @34. Worst run in World Football? Without looking, I'm sure there are a few contenders out there for that title.

I know football is a game of opinions and we all see the game and players differently. Until the turn of this year, Iwobi used to half worry me and half frustrate me. I could see a player in him, he just needed to believe it. As I kept saying, he used to confuse his team mates and the opposition as much as he confused himself and the supporters.

But with the confidence and belief he has discovered, he has improved massively.

Well, the Iwobi I've been watching has done anyway. And he's still only 26. His best seasons are ahead of him and he can get better with consistency.

Allen Rodgers
37 Posted 26/11/2022 at 20:19:44
I'm constantly amazed on this and every other Everton websites how many people can't spell the name of the pub opposite the main stand on Goodison Road.

Wilmslow is a place in Cheshire… The pub is called The Winslow!

Billy Bradshaw
38 Posted 26/11/2022 at 20:29:10
Will that be the pub on the corner of Wilmslow Street?

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