Supporters groups band together to demand change in leadership at Everton

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A number of Everton supporters groups, including ToffeeWeb and the newly renamed NSNOW group, have put their name to an open letter to the Blues' majority shareholder, Farhad Moshiri, calling on him to make sweeping changes to the club's leadership.

The move comes after a similar missive from NSNOW (then known as the 27 Years Campaign) appealing to Moshiri for greater communication around the governance of Everton FC and, in particular, the ongoing funding model for the club's new stadium.

That letter received no response from Moshiri's office but the impulse for this latest push for change from supporters comes as Everton dropped into the relegation zone following a humiliating 4-1 drubbing at the hands of Brighton at Goodison Park on Tuesday evening.

The players and Frank Lampard were booed off the field before chants of "sack the Board!" replaced them and while the manager's future has been the subject of much speculation in the aftermath, there has been plenty of commentary on the continuing record of failure at Boardroom level among fans and, increasingly, former players and media personalities.

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The letter from the supporters groups reads as follows:

To Farhad Moshiri

The time to save our club from its continued decline is now. For too long, despite your investment, we have seen diminishing returns that now threaten our existence as a Premier League club.

We the undersigned fan and social media groups call on you to make sweeping changes at Chair, Board and Executive levels.

Bring in competent, experienced professionals who can reverse our decline and make us competitive once more.

The narrow window of opportunity you spoke of is all but closed. Act now, while we still have a chance. Change the culture of the club, change the Chair, Board & Executive.

NSNO - our standard not just our motto.

 

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Jim Bennings
1 Posted 06/01/2023 at 06:30:27
I don't believe Moshiri has been at Goodison since Autumn 2021 which is unbelievable really but says everything that's wrong with the club.

I doubt any protests will even be heard by the boardroom and will be met by similar answers like the one Bill Kenwright gave outside the Main Stand last season, stating “We've had some good times.”

As I've said, while the punters fill the seats and away ends on a weekly basis, the club thinks all is well and thanks its lucky stars that it's keeping afloat.

Jim Bennings
2 Posted 06/01/2023 at 06:36:45
The trouble is with the people at Everton is that they don't like questions that push them out of the comfort zone.

Ask a hard hitting question, then it's met with threats to ban the individual from the club and the questions are shot down before any answer can be considered.

I don't know what they seriously expect after 7 years of big spending and numerous horrendous decisions that have made the team worse on a yearly basis.

Nobody expects Everton to have won the league in this past six years, nobody at all.

It's more than reasonable however and not asking too much to be a competitive attractive forward thinking club in the way a Brentford or Brighton are.

Instead of that, this club will again have to rely on the failings of others to stay in the Premier League.

Ian Hollingworth
3 Posted 06/01/2023 at 06:43:40
Personally I think it is vital that our fans sign up to NSNOW and participate in the after-match protest on 4 February.
It might not change anything but it will get a lot of media attention which will help put muc- needed pressure on the club.

We are definitely circling the drain and we can't just sit and wait to disappear down the drain.
COYB

Derek Thomas
4 Posted 06/01/2023 at 06:46:43
Eloquently put, Jim,

I think Bill's initial response will be 'Open letters, my arse' with an unspoken 'Fuck the ungrateful bastards' on the end.

Danny O’Neill
5 Posted 06/01/2023 at 06:51:04
It's good that there has been a coming together of the different groups. One voice is more powerful than splinter groups.

Attention turns to the pitch tonight and supporting the team.

But surely the club are not that naive to not be watching social media and now the national media to ignore this.

Or maybe I am naive to think that.

Derek Knox
6 Posted 06/01/2023 at 07:20:51
I have already joined NSNOW, and I would urge others to do so, There has always been strength in numbers, and apart from a few who still can't see the bigger and true picture at Everton, this is a chance for all the different groups, of which I didn't realise there were so many, to have one voice. I'm pretty sure we all want what is best for our beloved Club.

Enough is Enough, has been mooted so many times in the past, but this has been allowed to go even beyond that. Like many have said, if we act now, the season can still be saved, even if we finish fourth from bottom, we have maintained one of, if not the longest record in the top flight. Then we rebuild sensibly and gradually.

Eddie Dunn
7 Posted 06/01/2023 at 08:00:12
Surely this must be the start of a coordinated movement that can bring real accountability to this club.

For far too long, the Chairman and his acolytes have had their own way with little regard for the health of our club. The more national media scrutiny of this, the better.

Si Pulford
9 Posted 06/01/2023 at 08:03:22
Jim (1),

Filling the stadium and away ends means nothing in modern football. They barely register compared to the TV money and sponsorship associated with Premier League football.

And all of that goes (or reduces massively) overnight if we are relegated. Which is a real possibility…again.

You're right about the club seemingly being happy to stay afloat. But staying afloat means staying up and, unless something changes soon, we won't stay afloat.

Svein-Roger Jensen
10 Posted 06/01/2023 at 08:04:05
Perhaps when Pink Floyd sang "hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way," they meant "the Evertonian way."

We're in this together. UTFT.

Garry Martin
11 Posted 06/01/2023 at 08:08:15
"Let them eat cake" comes to mind when dealing with the EFC board. They simply don't care especially now we are foreign owned.

However, keep up the great work, guys!

Mark Boullé
12 Posted 06/01/2023 at 08:11:29
I think the revelation from Alan Stubbs that, as a critic of the regime, Kenwright has tried to stop him coming to games or getting tickets, is appalling and sums up the narcissistic charlatan we have as Chairman.

Meanwhile, it's 6th January, several clubs in the Premier League have already made moves to strengthen. The only Everton rumours are of outgoings from the playing staff or the manager, despite the desperate need for attacking reinforcements...

Ken Kneale
13 Posted 06/01/2023 at 08:14:41
I applaud the combined effort – for too long, the current chairman has been able to claim splinter groups only oppose his fiddling whilst Everton burns to the ground openly before all our eyes.

This combined effort makes that more difficult even for his manipulative style.

Jonathan Tasker
14 Posted 06/01/2023 at 08:24:14
Whilst having empathy with all of the above, I don't think it takes into account what the enemy are thinking. Protest letters are easily ignored.

What we need is something engaging, novel and dramatic.

Stop going altogether.

It's not been done before. Empty stadiums can't be ignored. Even Moshiri can't ignore this.

Christine Foster
15 Posted 06/01/2023 at 09:04:57
This is the first coordinated approach from so many supporter groups speaking as one. Far removed from the Fan Advisory Board, it gives a clear plea from those of us deemed not worthy to vote in the stadium move, not included on the FAB, but proud Blues from every corner of this planet.

It's not a demand, it's a heartfelt plea to change the guard. We are not asking for him to go, or sell, but to take action on the board of the club which, through its incompetence, has resulted in poor recruitment and financial management that seriously threatens our survival and his own substantial and grateful investment.

Christine Foster
16 Posted 06/01/2023 at 09:10:26
Before anyone chucks bricks at me for not demanding Moshiri go, take a leaf out of Bill's playbook of divide and conquer.

We are on Moshiri's side... "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". We want him to recover his investment and the best way is with a successful team.

It puts tens of millions on the value. Get my point?

Jimmy Salt
17 Posted 06/01/2023 at 09:16:53
I tried to log into NSNOW but it says my email is already in use???
Stu Darlington
18 Posted 06/01/2023 at 09:19:07
It's great to see. strength in numbers and a coordinated effort is the only way fans can bring pressure to bear.

Moshiri holds all the cards. Only he can make changes. I know he has put millions into the club but the calibre of people he has delegated to run the club, and stubbornly continues to support, has been appalling.

They are the prime reason the club is in the position it is in now. They need to be got rid of now!

Whatever manager we end up with will achieve nothing while the ownership and control of the club remain in the same hands. This is why this movement is important for the future of the club.

Exposure and publicity are the only weapons the fans have and the things management hate most .

Paul Tran
19 Posted 06/01/2023 at 09:30:42
Two excellent posts, Christine. I would love Moshiri to start making changes to how the club is run, maximise his profits, stay and succeed, or sell and leave on good terms with everyone.

Pointing out the number of managers, directors of football, plummeting league position, and lack of scope for buying players isn't a personal attack, it's a valid criticism of a poorly-run business.

Saving face is very important to some people. Better to work with Moshiri rather than alienating him. He needs more competent people running the club he owns.

Brian Harrison
20 Posted 06/01/2023 at 09:48:11
The problem since Usmanov took over is he put his puppet in charge who had no interest in football and wanted to spend as little time as possible running the club as the major shareholder.

The money that was supposedly used by Moshiri to buy Everton was from the sale of his Arsenal shares that were gifted to him by Usmanov. The only reason that they invested in Everton was Usmanov trying to get back at Kronke who vowed that he would never sell Arsenal to Usmanov if he was the last man on earth.

Quite why Usmanov installed his puppet instead of taking charge, I have no idea, and as I have often repeated the reason Kenwright is still chairman is because it suited Usmanov and Moshiri.

Every managerial appointment has been a decision by Usmanov and Moshiri, probably with the exception of Lampard. It was widely reported that Ancelotti had a 2-hour meeting with Usmanov before signing and Benitez spent 2-days on Usmanov's yacht before becoming the Everton manager.

Now why would a man with no shares in a club be allowed so much influence if he wasn't the real owner?

So yes, let's get rid of Kenwright and Barrett-Baxndale, but for me, the most important question is who is really running Everton?

Anybody who believes that Usmanov will walk away with nothing from all the money he has poured into Everton is living in cloud cuckoo land. Because, while getting rid of Kenwright and Barrett-Baxendale will be a start, it still leaves us with the bigger problem:

The people whose decisions have seen this club slide from mid-table before their money and are now becoming a club more used to battling relegation, will still be there.

Peter Carpenter
21 Posted 06/01/2023 at 10:05:52
A good move. They will ignore it as long as possible. We have to keep chipping away and force them to address this.

It's 5 minutes to midnight and we, the fans, are the best hope of change. Start writing individual letters too. Bombard them. Never let them think we are going away.

Ian (3), I think the protest has been brought forward to the next home game.

Kevin Molloy
22 Posted 06/01/2023 at 10:10:10
This is very high risk. We are dealing with ruthless people who have no goodwill towards the UK, and no affection for Everton.

What on earth is to stop them from saying "Sod this, just burn it to the ground and sell everything"? We are wholly reliant on Farhad Moshiri 'doing the decent thing'; I think this sort of caper is madness.

There may be a buzz about the national media covering this, but they couldn't give a rat's arse about Everton's welfare. In fact, they are hoping it all kicks off. And it seems we've just given them their headline.

I hope we don't come to regret this. It's not a question of us having nothing to lose – actually we've got the club in the balance.

Mark Ryan
23 Posted 06/01/2023 at 10:26:32
Anybody expecting Moshiri to clear out the board is dreaming, simple as that. He needs to sell the club.

He would have no idea who to put in charge if he sacked the board… plus now, without the Russian backing, he has no vested interest in us as a club.

With Usmanov gone, he is alone and adrift on a wide wide sea.

Nick Page
24 Posted 06/01/2023 at 10:31:40
I hope everyone joined. I have.

Kenwright's divide and conquer approach has been successful so far but unified, coordinated mass protests is what the lying narcissist fears the most – people, especially the media seeing him for what he really is.

And if gates halved, the media would also ask why are they so pissed off. And then the genie's out of the bottle.

Tony Abrahams
25 Posted 06/01/2023 at 10:40:37
Good post, Brian, except for one thing that you often repeat, although you might even be correct, even if I think it's very highly unlikely.

You say the reason that Bill Kenwright is still the chairman of Everton is because it suited Moshiri and Usmanov.

I personally don't believe this. Although he sold them his shares, I don't believe the club was ever really for sale under Bill Kenwright, and he just wanted investment.

Maybe they met halfway, with Kenwright only being prepared to sell if he was allowed to remain at the club in a very prominent role?

I don't know if I'm right but there is nothing to convince me, that two extremely successful businessmen would have kept Kenwright unless they had no other option under the terms and conditions being offered.

Dave Abrahams
26 Posted 06/01/2023 at 10:45:50
This highlights the only thing this Everton board is good at is inertia.

Lampard should have been gone weeks ago and now we are still sleep-walking with nobody concerned at the club in trying to keep us afloat — Just us fans.

Nick Page
27 Posted 06/01/2023 at 10:50:10
Tony,

Bill was looking for investment 24/7 – he is quoted as saying this. Never did he say he was looking for new owners and an outright sale. He said he is the biggest Evertonian and he is best placed to deliver this (talk about an ego).

I actually think his whole raison d'etre is/was to deliver the club into a new stadium and make a shit load of money in the process. This is what he will argue.

In reality, that's a noble pursuit but the problem has been that he is unwilling to relinquish control in anything or everything else and let more qualified people run those departments. He even put his mate Denise in the CEO role – it's absolutely ludicrous.

But she pays homage to him so it's fine, fuck everyone else. The big fat fuck is even negotiating transfers still and actually thinks he's good at it – we have the most overvalued player roster in football – no thanks to Billy Boy. Now we're stuck with it!!!

Alan J Thompson
28 Posted 06/01/2023 at 10:58:48
If you've seen the "Strategic Review" and how it has supposedly been implemented, then you know it is highly unlikely that anyone is going anywhere and certainly not by their own hand.
John Raftery
29 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:00:02
Making sweeping changes is easy. Finding competent, experienced professionals is the hard bit. Who might these people be?
Tony Abrahams
30 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:04:25
Whilst Everton, have never flown lower, Denise seems to be flying very high, Nick, because she always seems to be winning some kind of individual award somewhere...
Brian Murray
31 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:08:41
Need a Kill Bill, Volume 3... lol!

I believe deep down Denise knows she's on borrowed time and I'm sure she excels at what she actually knows about. Not her fault.

As for Sharpy, god knows what he's thinking. Bet he couldn't look Southall, Reid or Stubbs in the eye…

Bernard Dooley
32 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:17:47
That's the on-the-money question, John #29.

No answers offered yet it seems.

Peter Carpenter
33 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:19:18
Kevin (22), everything is high risk now.

This is a club collapsing on every level. Unless something happens, we will slip quietly out of the Premier League in May and won't be back for some time, joining the likes of Derby, Coventry and Sunderland.

The thing Moshiri cares about most is his money and he's going to lose lots of it if he's not careful. Who would buy the club from him now when they might find the value plummeting in a few months time with relegation?

Leaving the field clear for Kenwright to spin some more fantasy is not an option. No doubt he is, right now, planning the return of the prodigal sons, Ferguson and Rooney, who will lead Everton to a new era of glory and his own name being sung from every corner of Goodison.

The thing Bill Kenwright cares about most is Bill Kenwright.

Peter Mills
34 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:20:45
This is a cool, calm letter. It is good that is sent by a united group, and it must be answered.

For my part, I will always go to the game, I won't boycott them, but am happy to join the sit-in after the Arsenal game.

Meanwhile, RIP Gianlucca Vialli, one of our saviours in the past. Will we have one this season?

Peter Carpenter
35 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:20:48
And could someone please change the main homepage photo? It's making me sick.
Michael Lynch
36 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:22:34
I think Brian @21 is right. Where is Usmanov in all this? Moshiri is/was his bag man, so there can be little doubt that Usmanov was behind the purchase of Everton.

If ties really are cut with him (and that may be on paper only), what is Moshir's interest? My guess would be simply to build the stadium, then sell up at a profit.

The best we can therefore hope for is to stay in the Premier League, or in contention at the top of the Championship, until the end of the first season at the new place, at which point Moshiri & Usmanov will be looking to cash in for – they hope – a reasonable profit.

Meanwhile, Moshiri meddles every now and then, playing with his train set, appointing Rafa or Carlo to make himself feel like a big player, but mostly stays away because of the stench of failure around the club.

I'm sorry, but I don't think any major changes are on the horizon for a few years. Managers will come and go, we'll either keep our status as a Premier League side or we won't.

And Bill will be in the Directors Box or he won't, but the club has no medium-term strategy except getting the stadium built – which should be an amazing landmark in the club's history – and not going into administration before Moshir & Usmanov can sell up.

Rob Halligan
37 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:23:09
Tony,

I've been reliably informed that Frank Lampard had a Performance Review yesterday morning at Finch Farm, taken by Barrett-Baxendale.

As my informer rightly says, what she knows about football, you could write on the back of a postage stamp, with room to spare. Frank could have answered every question with a bag of shite and she wouldn't have had a clue what he was on about.

Little Miss Dynamite eh, Bill, well ram her up your arse and let's watch you both explode and be blown into kingdom come.

Clive Rogers
38 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:23:13
Peter, 35, it’s been changed to after the Southampton game.
Peter Mills
39 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:26:11
Thanks Clive #39.
Clive Rogers
40 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:27:36
Wouldn’t want you there chanting “sack the board” on your own.
Tony Abrahams
41 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:30:49
Plus Frank is also a lot better looking than the fat fella, Rob!

How sad Peter, Vialli, always seemed to be someone the common man could relate to, I know I always liked him anyway. 🙏

Peter Mills
42 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:39:31
Indeed Clive #40!

I know you are being light-hearted, but I dislike the “Sack the board” chant.

I understand the sentiment, and the frustration behind it, but there is nobody who can sack the whole board as it contains Moshiri himself, and if everyone just buggers off, there will simply be a great void.

Very valid questions are being asked, politely, by a unified fan-base. If they remain ignored, I would prefer a chant of “We want answers, now”.

Brian Murray
43 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:39:34
Vialli. Was at the start of the Chelsea resurgence while we were making bad decision after bad decision , very early in the Sky era. No age to be taken and a wicked sense of humour, I recall. Decent fella.
Martin Mason
44 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:46:33
Speaking as a non-activist lifelong Blue who also wishes to see changes, I believe that what is happening now is simply the demise of EFC.

When there is so much poison in the club which, as does happen, this transmits to the fan base, then there is no solution. This will transmit also to the coaching staff and players and will likely take our dreadful performances to a new and much lower level.

Good luck everybody.

Steve Brown
45 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:55:56
Martin, perhaps we should take this approach?

Link

Peter Carpenter
46 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:59:15
Thank you for your message of hope, Father Martin.
Brian Denton
47 Posted 06/01/2023 at 12:02:25
Vialli kept us up in the final game in 97-98. It wasn't in our hands: Bolton at Chelsea only had to equal our result, but they lost thanks to the great man.
Roger Helm
48 Posted 06/01/2023 at 12:07:18
Where it has gone wrong at Everton under Moshiri

An interesting analysis of how we were buggered up by Moshiri spending half a billion pounds on us.

Brian Murray
49 Posted 06/01/2023 at 12:09:03
Brian. Yes and the Chelsea fans willing Bolton to score as Johnny Vaughn was heard to say "Let the scouse bastards rot."

Ah well, that's football rivalry I suppose. Gods smiling on us but I fear that's all gone.

Ian Hollingworth
51 Posted 06/01/2023 at 12:10:58
Clive @38,

Are we sure it has changed as the NSNOW website still talks about the Arsenal game on 4 February?

Joe McMahon
52 Posted 06/01/2023 at 12:11:16
Bollox, just seen the comments about Gianluca. He always came across as a lovely man, and he certainly was a top draw player!

And yes, as already stated, as player-manager of Chelsea he kept Everton up on the last game of the season.

Tony Abrahams
53 Posted 06/01/2023 at 12:13:25
We rotted anyway Brian!
Allen Rodgers
54 Posted 06/01/2023 at 12:19:20
Peter @42.

Although Moshiri owns the club, he is not listed on the board of directors.

The 4 directors are Kenwright, Sharp, Barrett-Baxendale, and Grant Ingles (the finance guy).

Peter Mills
55 Posted 06/01/2023 at 12:23:38
Thanks Allen#55 - I’m learning a lot today!
Kim Vivian
56 Posted 06/01/2023 at 12:29:41
If Frank is having to be subjected to a "Performance Review" by the non-performing Barrett-Baxendale (how is she qualified to carry out a performance review of a proffessional like Lampard, for fuck's sake???), then I expect he basically can't actually wait until he's sent back out through the revolving door, never mind the comforting feel of his pockets bulging with the millions in compensation.

How utterly undignified by the club.

Iain Johnston
57 Posted 06/01/2023 at 12:35:12
When you have the Red Echo printing 'Crisis Supplements' you know you're in trouble.
Brian Murray
58 Posted 06/01/2023 at 12:46:34
Tony,

With the club being a closed (corner?) shop that doesn't take kindly to criticism, I wonder if the crowd behaviour warning is a veiled threat?

In other words, no negative banners as we are watching and season tickets will be revoked. Wouldn't put it past them. They have done it before to a Blue Union member.

Bill Gall
59 Posted 06/01/2023 at 12:57:22
I have been going on for months that Moshiri must take the blame for what is going on as he put the people in charge who are responsible for the decline at the club and, as majority shareholder, he is the only one who can replace them.

It is good that finally the supporters groups have got together to get Moshiri more involved on problems that have gone on and have been ignored by the people he put in charge.

John Keating
60 Posted 06/01/2023 at 13:02:03
Like many, I see the parasite that is Kenwright as being at the forefront of our demise. However, this pisses me off big style

Had we got this level of anger and support when we gathered as the Blue Union, I very much doubt we'd be here and talking about this now.

We were called every name under the sun including non-Evertonians, not real supporters etc.

Well, if we do go down this season, maybe us non-Evertonians may be proved right.

George McKane
61 Posted 06/01/2023 at 13:03:04
I cannot even find NSNOW to join – anyone point the way please.
Clive Rogers
62 Posted 06/01/2023 at 13:16:35
Just been on the NSNOW site and there's a post from 3 hours ago saying it's the Southampton game. The original post is still on though.
Tony Abrahams
63 Posted 06/01/2023 at 13:26:35
I want to join NSNOW. That's what I wrote George, and I've only got about 20% literacy when it comes to technology, mate.
Peter Carpenter
64 Posted 06/01/2023 at 13:44:26
Joe McMahon
65 Posted 06/01/2023 at 13:46:52
Bill @60

You have been and you were always correct. He's had no interest in the football club.

If he had, Bill would have been kicked out or kept to take the minutes of meetings.

Dave Abrahams
66 Posted 06/01/2023 at 13:59:28
Roger (48),

That article doesn't mention Kenwright, I wonder why? Billy Boy calling his friends in?

Eddie Dunn
67 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:04:11
I have joined NSNOW but it won't let me log in, although I saw your name online there, Tony.
Barry Rathbone
68 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:15:15
After watching intense protest by Man Utd and Newcastle Utd supporters lasting years, I don't see the point of organised fan protest – it just seems a pointless venting exercise.

The Glazers still hold sway at Man Utd and Mike Ashley only sold Newcastle recently. As Moshiri is looking to get out anyway, what do people think protest is going to achieve?

I understand cushion throwing because you get to hit the players and the sight is amazing. I believe some fans chucking from the main stand were approached by the GB Olympic team for trials for throwing the discus…

Nick Page
69 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:20:41
Dave,

The Kenwright PR machine will be working overtime to deflect any attention away from the Great Parasite and his hoard of sycophants.

The question they – the lazy Sky 6 journos let's be honest, that's what they get paid for – should be asking is: Why is Kenwright still here?

After all this time, like he's some arl Grandad type fella who gives all the kids a Werther's Original on matchdays rather than being the man who is really overseeing operations at Everton, day and night, along with his totally unqualified CEO.

Do we have a CFO by the way, or any other C-suite types? I've never checked.

Nick Page
70 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:29:05
Rathbone, are you on the Kenwright PR team?

"After watching intense protest by Man Utd and Newcastle Td supporters lasting years, I don't see the point of organised fan protest, it just seems a pointless venting exercise."

What an absolute load of bollocks. So nobody should ever protest anything ever? Get in the bin, Stalin.

Ian Hollingworth
71 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:43:01
Clive@63 yep thanks I have just seen it but had to scroll down a lot. I wouldn't have done that if you hadn't posted the change on here so I have suggested they keep posting it so everyone knows the change.
Neil Copeland
72 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:56:27
Eddie #65, it did the same to me but then worked once I activated my account via an email sent by the NSNOW website
Paul Kossoff
73 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:58:31
I've been convinced for a long time that Kenwright wants Everton relegated. Why, well purely for his own ends. He will take the club off Moshiri dirt cheap, assuring him that the club is in safe hands and that Moshiri will get his investment back in full. Kenwrights grip on Everton remains. Am I imagining this? As Toffee tv said, Kenwright should be on a beach somewhere relaxing with no worries other than the football results.

If we don't get taken over quickly then I fear we will sink and not come back for a long time.

Moshiri was conned by a kidder. Kenwright is an expert at convincing people to part with millions to invest in his ideas. Moshiri is being ripped apart and ridiculed for having his pockets picked by an unscrupulous conman. Kenwrights fault we are in this position, not Moshiris.

George McKane
74 Posted 06/01/2023 at 15:08:05
I have joined but it will not let me Log In - -says "that email address is already in use" if I try. to re-register - - I am quite up to date with Technology - - said I would get an email - - but haven't - - seems same as Eddie and Neil - - how did it rectify it Neil please.
Neil Copeland
75 Posted 06/01/2023 at 15:17:51
Hi George, I noticed an email from NSNOW advising me to activate my account. Once I did that via the link in the email message it allowed necrosis access to website. I have just tried logging on again now and still ok.
Jerome Shields
76 Posted 06/01/2023 at 15:31:11
Tony #25

I agree Moshiri was brought in as a investor on Kenwright 's terms.Whilst Moshiri owns significant shares he does not control the running of the Club, or dealing with the Football authorities.I even see any potential takeover as just another investor in the Kenwright project.He will be talking to any potential takeover parties and be involved

George McKane
77 Posted 06/01/2023 at 15:45:43
Thanks Neil - - still no email after an hour - - will persevere.
Neil Copeland
78 Posted 06/01/2023 at 15:49:47
George, no problem. I joined yesterday but didn’t notice the email until early afternoon today!
Peter Hodgson
79 Posted 06/01/2023 at 16:54:33
I've been a fan for almost 70 years and I almost gave it all up last year but I persevered but it has become clear to me that things at the top have got to change and I applaud what the fan groups have done and are doing.

I now live a long way from Goodison and my health isn't too good which prevents me from taking any sort of active role in this so I'm afraid I'll have to be a 'silent' supporter but not silent if you know what I mean.

I'm not against Moshiri nor am I against him getting a return on his investment but as things are, and if things don't change, there will be no chance of that happening.

I do hope our wishes have some effect because if they don't there won't be an Everton to support in the not too distant future.

Derek Cowell
80 Posted 06/01/2023 at 17:14:56
Sign up Luca Vialli on a free. He would be an improvement on what we have got.

Kenwright out!

Tony Abrahams
81 Posted 06/01/2023 at 17:33:30
If this is true what you say about Kenwright, Jerome, and that he will be trying to stay at the club, even if Moshiri sells, then it’s clear that these protests have got to become a lot louder.

Peter@73, this type of photograph, might curb a lot of people, because it’s my opinion that a lot of Evertonians, have gone soft.

I might be wrong but I don’t think Kenwright, would have lasted more than 5 minutes in those cushion throwing days, that Barry mentioned, because those old school scousers, did used to seem a lot more clued-up, although I suppose I was looking at it through the eyes of a very young child.

Jerome Shields
82 Posted 06/01/2023 at 17:36:18
Eddie#68

Use yours e mail address instead of your Username.

Barry Rathbone
83 Posted 06/01/2023 at 17:38:57
Nick Page 71

Wind your neck in you utter windbag I've yet to see a post of yours offering coherent rebuttal. Stamping your feet like an infant because you can't control your emotions confirms my previous comment - you're an idiot.

Stick to arsing around with pensions you horse faced non-entity.

Jerome Shields
84 Posted 06/01/2023 at 17:42:39
Employment Review means the sack within 6 months.When it is conducted by a Numpty,it is eminent, unless you start asking them what the fuck are they talking about.- Advice from a while Shop Stewart friend.
Iain Johnston
85 Posted 06/01/2023 at 17:45:30
My email from NSNOW was in my junk folder.
Brian Murray
86 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:00:56
Barry, not getting involved in your tit for tat tennis with Nick p but in what universe has kenright done a right call by Everton and not himself. Get personal if you want but just answer like a man !
James Flynn
87 Posted 06/01/2023 at 21:17:25
Peter (65) - Thanks for the link. Easy sign-up.

Much appreciated.

James Flynn
88 Posted 06/01/2023 at 21:21:44
Also, what iain said at (87). I had to go to my Spam/Junk folder to find the link sent to my email.
John Keating
89 Posted 06/01/2023 at 22:05:44
Barry
You are wrong and out of order
Barry Rathbone
90 Posted 06/01/2023 at 22:06:27
Brian Murray,

Your "answer like a man" puts you firmly in the blockhead camp considering I've already stated at least 2 things that answer your question.

Let's go slowly so you can keep up.

Firstly I have acknowledged Kenwright has made mistakes, which football club chairman hasn't? Secondly it depends on your perspective whether you judge this clubs continued existence in the Prem an achievement given all in it's peer group have not. Your call.

As for your caveat of whether his decisions suit him or the club no one knows. The inner workings of this club are not something supporters are privy to and before you start whinging about me getting into you just remember I give what I receive. If you are civil you get civility back if you have a pop I'll take your head off.

Barry Rathbone
91 Posted 06/01/2023 at 22:09:28
John Keating 91

No I'm not.

Utd are still run by the Glazers and Ashley has only recently sold Newcastle stick to facts

John Keating
92 Posted 06/01/2023 at 22:22:47
Barry
Everyone in whatever industry is entitled to voice their opinion however they see fit and that includes supporters of football teams
This website is a forum of discussion/venting but calling out people because they have a different opinion of your own calling them an idiot and threatening to take their head off is totally out of order
Bobby Mallon
93 Posted 06/01/2023 at 22:32:00
Jim bennings @1 agree. Letters are no good to this board but not going to the game will piss them off. No Money made in the club on match days.
Barry Rathbone
94 Posted 06/01/2023 at 22:40:07
John Keating 94

Of course people can vent their spleen but the idea it's going to force the board to sack itself or the owner to suddenly sell up isn't supported by 2 of the most visible protest groups of the last decade - Utd and Newcastle.

If you think that is "calling people out" I'm not sure about your rationale. People venting their spleen at me for pointing out such facts is a different matter and if they're not stopped by the mods I'm perfectly entitled to give them a slap back.

Brian Wilkinson
95 Posted 07/01/2023 at 08:31:04
I have a question for either Paul the esk, or anyone with the workings of owners.

Ok we all know Moshiri holds over 90% of the shares at Everton and we are all calling on Moshiri to remove the board with being the owner of the club, again I do not have any idea how the process works, I would like to think that the owner could choose to remove the board.

So my question is, let’s say Moshiri wants to remove Bill as chairman, can the rest of the board members take a vote and over rule the owner, or can the owner remove the entire board without question.

We all know who is on the board and will have the Chairman’s back, so can anyone enlighten me on the scenario.

Brian Murray
96 Posted 07/01/2023 at 09:12:14
Barry, You can dress it up anyway you can and the understatement of the year all chairman’s make mistakes jeez mate get a grip. His tenure as chairman is disastrous from day one
Brian Wilkinson
97 Posted 07/01/2023 at 09:53:20
Is the reason Bill is clinging onto his last small percentage of shares, is it stops any future buyers from a complete 100% takeover?

Could that be a reason the Americans and Kenyon backed off?

Brian Murray
99 Posted 07/01/2023 at 11:36:00
Brian w. Seems to be a theme with him discouraging any takeover unless he can stay and keep us at his level. Man City Arabs and probably more we don’t know.
Brendan McLaughlin
100 Posted 07/01/2023 at 12:17:28
No Brian #99

Blue Bill's minority shareholding couldn't prevent a takeover and it's unlikely that any new owners would require or be able to acquire 100% ownership.

Brian Murray
101 Posted 07/01/2023 at 12:34:01
I wonder if Qatar Airways has a CEO and a Chairman that fancy a change?
Mark Ryan
102 Posted 07/01/2023 at 12:50:06
Would do a better job
Brian Wilkinson
103 Posted 07/01/2023 at 14:17:41
I am going to call this early, with the planned sit in next Week, what are the chances Bill will not turn up, then pull another stunt of his health, and ensures he gets a story out of the press and media for them to spin something, which will be down to the fans.

Normally I would say rhino skin will still turn up as if nothing is wrong, but with various ex players and the echo all asking the same questions, he needs a get out of jail free card and just have a feeling he will come up with something and I,m guessing his good times will be turned into look at me, I’m doing my best but it has put a strain on my health.

Alan Johnson
104 Posted 07/01/2023 at 15:24:25
Bill doesn't like negative protests.
He used to try and talk around the fans outside the ground, can't see him doing that again. The way I see it the more banners ex players etc... calling him out the better. Hopefully, this will garner media attention.
Barry Rathbone
105 Posted 07/01/2023 at 15:37:00
Brian Murray 98

That's your opinion, which you are entitled to, but clearly not universally shared beyond this echo chamber.

His gob got a huge round of applause when appearing on the big screen at Goodison which is a matter of record and fact. Reasoning beyond yours and those of a similar mindset MUST exist for that to happen.

Sorry, but ignoring such evidence seems bizarre to me.

Michael Kenrick
107 Posted 07/01/2023 at 22:33:35
Interesting to see this Tweet pop up, with an open letter apparently from the Fans Forum to Farhad Moshiri:

It's rather carefully worded, considering their exalted position as "a conduit between Evertonians and Everton Football Club", no doubt.

No mention of the board, of course...

Brian Wilkinson
108 Posted 08/01/2023 at 06:18:24
I know some are asking what will this achieve and Utd and Newcastle have tried for years.

I cannot speak for anyone else, but my reasoning Is to let any future owners, not to be hoodwinked by Bill saying he gets Everton and he will be a big asset with years of knowledge of our football club.

I want to send out a clear message that myself and a large portion of the Everton following are not happy with our current board.

For whatever reason, Moshiri will not remove the board, we all know that, but if any future owners decide to take over, we have to send out a very strong message that they need to start from the top, remove the board, and bring in people who know how to run a buisness.

We simply cannot keep quiet and allow Bill to hoodwink the next owners of our great football club.

Brian Murray
109 Posted 08/01/2023 at 13:59:25
Barry. Keep
Defending and clapping away in the sky bet league until your hearts content. Wish I had your ignorance my mental health would too
Kieran Kinsella
110 Posted 08/01/2023 at 14:07:42
Brian 103

He’s all but faked his own death more than once so yeah Saturday is a great time for him to pull that again.

Nick Page
111 Posted 08/01/2023 at 14:21:16
Brian - the likes of Rathbone and all the other ignorant bone headed, gullible half wits amongst the support are largely the reason we are where we are with Bill and his dictatorship. No other clubs support would accept such a long drawn out fall from grace, especially one of Everton’s standing. But it’s ok, Bill remortgaged his house to save us from the arch kopite Johnson (the biggest load of bollocks in history). So just remember, every time you clap the manipulative old crone, you’re hammering another nail into the EFC coffin.
Nick Page
112 Posted 08/01/2023 at 14:24:10
Michael, @107 - they’re a complete joke and fully captured by Kenwrights autocracy. Funny how their letter followed one from real fans, who aren’t beholden to the status quo. Take zero notice.
Ian Linn
113 Posted 08/01/2023 at 15:06:37
Former Belgium manager Roberto Martinez is on the brink of becoming the new boss of Portugal.


Thank fuck

Derek Knox
115 Posted 09/01/2023 at 01:16:53
Would Roberto be getting all these International Appointments if he was a dud ? Belgium were the Number 1 side for a while under his tutelage. I'm not advocating he should have returned to us, or jumping for joy that he hasn't, I don't think it works for any manager or player returning, but he was sacked when we were in 11th or 12th in the League.

He was never given any money, and although our match results weren't great at the time, they were a lot better than what we are witnessing now, we were scoring but conceding too many. Surely the trigger was pulled too soon, and to get Koeman in was a joke, the start of the current legacy of rot and poor decision making over players and Managers alike.

Brian Wilkinson
116 Posted 09/01/2023 at 02:48:46
I must be going soft in my old age but apart from Carlo, and even he had a poor run towards the end of his realm, we just have not had anyone since Moyes to steady the ship.

The budget he was on, he was never going to match up against the big boys, but he certainly had the beating of the best of the rest, had the players fit and would have wiped the floor against the likes of Bournemouth, Wolves, Forest and the likes.

Yes the penknife to a gunfight, some poor cup results, but league wise he had a team of battlers, Martinez took over a fully fit team and moved them up a level in his first season, then the fitness fell, tippy tappy football crept in and his second season was horrendous.

Would I take Moyes back now, out of the options yes to steady the ship, get our finances back up and some of our identity back, West Ham are in a similar position so sounds mad to even think of him, but out of everyone available, I would take a punt on Moyes and I never thought I would ever say that.

Joshua Steadman
117 Posted 09/01/2023 at 09:14:37
Christine, how many fans are you talking? I could be wrong, I often am, but I have yet to meet anyone who belongs to any of these groups. I have mentioned on other posts, Evertonians are a contrary bunch, the last time fans organized marches and demanded change, when we seemed to be treading water under Moyes, oh for those days again!! It was met with indifference. I genuinely cannot name a top club where the fans successfully had an unpopular board removed.
Christine Foster
118 Posted 09/01/2023 at 09:28:56
Joshua, fair comment, and frankly I have no idea exactly how many actual supporters frequent those groups, not even sure if there is any way to even find out to be honest, but it is symbolic, while we are at it, it would have made more of an impact is the Fans Advisory Board was also in it! Let's face it the much heralded team of supporters is, like the club, totally, utterly silent. They should all resign, to a man. Why? Because they are nothing more than a front, a face the club can point to. Are they advising the noard on the anger, the fear, the need for change?
Not on your life..they aren't allowed to.
Brian Murray
119 Posted 09/01/2023 at 09:36:24
Christine. The fan advisory board was carefully vetted I know I met one. Only decisions they are asked is it bourbons or custard creams when and if they meet the board. Even as far as New Zealand I’m sure you seen with your own eyes one saying on sky he’s happy with the board. Nah we will do it without them.
Steve Brown
120 Posted 09/01/2023 at 09:43:14
Harsh Brian, I think they are also asked whether it is one lump or two in their tea and coffee.
Christine Foster
121 Posted 09/01/2023 at 11:08:29
Brian all the more reason for them to resign. How can they legitimately represent anyone if they are not allowed to represent, advise or report back to those they allegedly represent, the fans.
Their appointments are conditional on NOT being allowed to discuss ANY details with anyone outside the club without the express permission of the board. Their advise is one way traffic that no one on the board cares about.

BTW, as an aside, if any manager or director came to me with a 120 bullet point action list I would tell them to go away and come back to me with the top ten most critical issues they have. Focus, 120 points is not focus no matter how accurate they are. Tell me in their professional observation the key items that needs addressing now, and why.
120 points? So what I would say, tell me the most critical... otherwise it's just filed away...

Christine Foster
122 Posted 09/01/2023 at 20:14:57
Mere chance? Around 9 am UK time, I posted the above comments relating to the article on fans groups coming together.

I was critical of the FAB because of their silence and the fact they have not – and cannot without the express permission of the club – comment on any matter regarding the club. I suggested they should resign.

We have heard nothing from them to date, in fact I was critical of that very fact, when low and behold, a few hours later, they have announced they will be meeting (with who exactly?) to hear their concerns… and do what exactly?

Tell the club? Do you think for one moment the board have not seen the damming reviews in the press and on TV already?

What is any fan going to say that the board haven't already heard? What difference – other than window dressing – will it make? What a coincidence that suddenly meetings are arranged after direct criticism of them.

Are the CEO or Chairman in attendance? If so, I doubt it will be a public meeting… do you? But if any of the FAB are reading this, please request that either or both will attend and that all supporters, not just from a selected, vetted few, can attend?

Nick Page
123 Posted 09/01/2023 at 20:21:43
Absolutely pathetic, isn't it, Christine. All stage-managed to deflect criticism. It's just terrible, ugly and selfish behaviour from Kenwright's camp and those around him, like Sharp and the other yes-men on the payroll should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

It's 2022. This should have happened at the latest in 2010. Astonishing but the wind is changing. Stay strong, people, as the dirty games will just be starting.

Brian Murray
124 Posted 09/01/2023 at 20:29:43
Nick.

I'm still amazed at the apathy and even the deflection when it's no one's theory or opinion – it's bare facts right in front of us for a long long time before Moshiri.

As for the CEO or Chairman in attendance at the FAB love-in. Do me a favour – it would have to be invitation only and no questions from the floor – just like the last AGMs.

We don't need the Jaz-men.

Michael Boardman
125 Posted 09/01/2023 at 20:33:38
Christine,

Remind you of any particular Government over the last few years (appreciate you are from New Zealand)?

Nick, if Kenwright (and sue for this, you arsehole, Kenwright) was caught in a dodgy snog with Peter Johnson, then I'm the witness on the escalators of St Johns. I'd rather my daughter end up with Matt Hancock than Bill Kenwright, and I really hate Matt Hancock.

Danny O’Neill
126 Posted 09/01/2023 at 20:39:31
Put me on that Fans Advisory Board. I think I might last a bit longer than my now friend, Rob Halligan, but not much longer.

They won't like the truth as to what we have persevered with whilst they sit there reigning in the millions that we contribute to licking their lips.

Yes, I'll be there Saturday, supporting the team.


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