🎙ToffeeWeb Podcast: 'Broken'

18/01/2023 7comments  |  Jump to last

With the relationship between the club and its supporters breaking down and team joint-bottom of the Premier League, Paul, Lyndon, Ell and Adam discuss the timing of Everton's announcement around security fears at the Southampton game, the defeat on the pitch and what Lampard should do against West Ham.


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Jimmy Lee
1 Posted 18/01/2023 at 2023/01/18 : 12:32:25
Controversially, I believe the truth lies somewhere between the two sides of this argument. I believe there have been threats of violence and unpleasantness to the board previously. Given the levels we have witnessed on our pages, it is highly feasible.

I believe there was a 'headlock' incident with Denise Barrett-Baxendale but that the story was more of an over-effusive guest in the director's box being excessive with the arm over the shoulder and apparently a sentence to the effect of; "Come on Denise, buy us an effing striker!" This was sufficient for him to be spoken to by security and no further action was taken or required. 

Let's not detract from how intimidating that would have been for her at the time, particularly in this climate, but it is an incident that could readily be transformed eleven days later into something more sinister than it was for the benefit of the board's position.

In summary, what they have done with this portrayal is inexcusable. However, we the fans (obviously a microscopic minority of us), have not been blameless in engendering a situation that could be marketed in this fashion. Without the silly arm over the shoulders, the headlock, or the alleged and entirely plausible threats to the Board, they would have absolutely nothing to throw at us.

For that reason, I am incredibly uncomfortable with the new 'LIARS' banner being prepared for unveiling at the West Ham game and think we would be better taking a step back from this stance and rising above it.

The increased polarisation makes it easier for the media and its acolytes to pick a side. All we are doing right now is playing into their hands when portraying us as bitter and unpleasant. Regrettably, some of us are. Be it justified or otherwise.

Barry Hesketh
2 Posted 18/01/2023 at 12:52:17
Jimmy @1

The club is at war, but to what end? It's far easier for the owner and board to build bridges than it is to get 30 or 40 thousand fans to do so. Most of the last few days events were uneccessary and haven't done anything to improve the clubs image or more importantly help the team to improve its results.

I'm not in favour of the 'liar' banners either, although many would argue that it is a fair description of those that it depicts. Not every 'protestor' will have the best interests of Everton Football Club in mind, not every member of the board puts the needs of the club first either.

These last few days could have been consigned to a storm-in-a-teacup event, but it would seem that people on both sides of the divide, prefer to keep the pot boiling and that could prove to be a dangerous strategy, for the future of the club.

Jim Lloyd
3 Posted 18/01/2023 at 13:23:56
Barry, It isn't as easy for thousands of individuals, even if they have a common aim, to weld themselves into an homogenous organisation in a matter of weeks, come out with a strategy formulated by teams of advisors during a number of "team" meetings, and feed their friends in the press, unsubstantiated stories of our agressive behaviour.

I'm afraid this isn't able to be done, although Liverpool supporters seemed to manage to get the press on side when getting rid of Hicks and Gillette, so cohesively on our side, emotions come in to play, memories of past deceptions by the Chairman, add up and add up and the supporters who took action, have said "Enough" this is enough! from a peaceful protest, this Board, this Chairman and this Owner, have put themselves into a no return position. Well, possibly the Owner might be able to resolve his own position with and apology...but I doubt he will.

I don't think it is a matter of keeping the pot boiling, as though it's a lovers tiff. The Liar has been found out and I think the supporters have had enough of him.

Barry Hesketh
4 Posted 18/01/2023 at 13:38:37
Jim @3
I thought I made myself clear but perhaps I didn't, anyway I agree with you about the difficulty in having a large number of people all singing from the same hymn sheet.

It's far easier for the owner and board to build bridges than it is to get 30 or 40 thousand fans to do so.

Nick Page
5 Posted 18/01/2023 at 13:51:51
Good God if everyone thought and behaved like the surrender monkey on post 1 where would be now? Up to our necks in Nazi’s most likely. Yes, just go right ahead and roll over and let them walk all over us. Jesus wept grow a pair of balls man and open your eyes to what’s really going on. THEY’VE LIED. It’s a game. They’re using PR to spin the truth. Meanwhile more important things are going on than Auntie Bill’s massive ego trip, namely the actual football club that is falling apart. Parachute in Noddy and Big Ears cos absolutely anyone and I mean ANYONE could do a better job than these self-serving parasites. The so called support on here makes me weep sometimes - it’s only taken some of you twenty years to work out what’s going on and you’re still uncomfortable with it. Best if some of you stay at home, behind the sofa with the curtains drawn for the next six months.
John Raftery
6 Posted 18/01/2023 at 18:30:12
Why has Lampard not been sacked? I suspect we cannot afford to pay him off.
Brian Hennessy
7 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:14:37
I can't think of a more accurate five letters to describe our Board than "Liars".

Banners can be very powerful and I commend every one of our fans who took the time to put them together for the last game and those who will continue to do so until this rotten Board are removed.

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