Shareholders Association call for vote of no confidence in Everton Board

18/01/2023 148comments  |  Jump to last

The Everton Shareholders Association have opened an online petition calling for a vote of no confidence in Everton's Board of Directors.

Citing under-achievement on and off the pitch and a deteriorating relationship with club's supporters, the EFCSA, the oldest organisation of its kind in football, is appealing to the wider fanbase to join them in expressing their dissatisfaction with the running of the club.

The Shareholders Association has historically used the Annual General Meeting of club shareholders to air their feelings to the Board and demand answers from the Board but, in a unilateral change last year, the Club hierarchy removed the requirement to hold AGMs from Everton FC's Articles of Association.

Everton are in crisis with the club mired in the relegation zone and with financial pressures restricting their ability to adequately upgrade the playing squad, the result of years of profligate spending on poor players and the consequent threat of censure for breaching the Premier League's Profitability and Sustainability rules.

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Bob Carlton
1 Posted 18/01/2023 at 16:17:17
2,500 and counting!!!!
Eddie Dunn
2 Posted 18/01/2023 at 16:23:30
Signed the petiton too, thanks Andy !
Neil Copeland
3 Posted 18/01/2023 at 16:26:47
Signed the petition. Thanks for the link Andy
Rob Halligan
4 Posted 18/01/2023 at 16:36:21
Petition signed!
Paul Hughes
5 Posted 18/01/2023 at 16:36:37
Signed the petition. Now up to nearly 3000 signatures
Matthew Williams
6 Posted 18/01/2023 at 16:50:50
Just signed the petition, cheers Andy.
Brent Stephens
7 Posted 18/01/2023 at 17:12:02
Signed.

3,500 so far.

Predictions for final number? 10,000.

Ian Pilkington
8 Posted 18/01/2023 at 17:32:10
Petition signed.

Interesting that it is sponsored by the Shareholders Association.

Dale Self
9 Posted 18/01/2023 at 17:52:15
3,942, do it. And it's not really my place to say and certainly not my position but, if someone prefers the ‘good intentions gone awry' angle let's not pummel them.

Let's stay focused on the agreed belief that he should know now that his time is up. Make amends by making way for another approach to solving the club's vast set of problems.

If he is in fact a good person and ‘one of us', he should oblige and give up his pursuit of image maintenance.

Jim Lloyd
10 Posted 18/01/2023 at 17:58:28
Could be over 5,000 now,
Dean Williams
11 Posted 18/01/2023 at 18:11:35
I'd like to see how this plays out, but I'm afraid it's gonna fall on deaf ears. A clueless board and owner.
Bob Carlton
12 Posted 18/01/2023 at 18:23:38
EFCSA Petition now has its own thread.

4,500 and counting!!!!!

Jerome Shields
13 Posted 18/01/2023 at 18:30:47
I have signed the petition.
Mike Doyle
14 Posted 18/01/2023 at 18:35:55
Criticism from is a fairly conservative and articulate group like the ESA should add to the negative media coverage of the Board.

Given the build-up of anti-Board sentiment in recent days, I do wonder if at least one member may decide to throw the towel in?

Colin Glassar
15 Posted 18/01/2023 at 18:40:27
Done
Joe McMahon
16 Posted 18/01/2023 at 18:44:31
Signatures racing on. Wouldn't it be great to get over 30k. That surely would send a message.
Will Mabon
17 Posted 18/01/2023 at 18:49:20
Shit's getting real... things moving apace. Quite impressive, the rate that people are signing this petition.

I'm starting to wonder how the scenario of an emergency board might play out, likely or not.

Dean – wherever it goes, the size of this petition will make waves for sure.

Peter Neilson
18 Posted 18/01/2023 at 18:51:41
Signed and forwarded to other match-going mates.
Brent Stephens
19 Posted 18/01/2023 at 18:55:33
Now at 5,000. Approx one per second signing.
Tony Abrahams
20 Posted 18/01/2023 at 19:00:37
Imagine putting people like Rob Halligan, John Rafferty, or countless other Evertonians who plan their life around Everton Football Club onto a temporary board?

"I speak to the chairman on a regular basis," says Lampard, but he's a bit like myself at the minute, absolutely fuckin clueless. So that is not a bad suggestion at all, Will.

Eddie Dunn
21 Posted 18/01/2023 at 19:02:56
Done.
Eric Haworth
22 Posted 18/01/2023 at 19:03:06
Dean #1,

They may like to give the impression it's fallen on deaf ears, but no way will they be allowed to ignore it.

Because this shows no sign of abating and it's getting to the sort of number (now approaching 5k & only started this afternoon) were it's going to be picked up by the media, particularly with it being sponsored by EFCSA (the oldest association of its kind in football) and likely to get well into 5 figures before it's finished.

A case of turning the tables and utilising their preferred method of using the media to do their dirty work. Slightly ironic really, “He who lives by the sword, shall die by the sword”.

Julian Exshaw
23 Posted 18/01/2023 at 19:04:48
Petition signed. Good luck and thanks to those organising it and to Andy for the link.
Tony Everan
24 Posted 18/01/2023 at 19:05:36
I've just signed, 5,204 now.
Steve Cotton
25 Posted 18/01/2023 at 19:09:19
Signed... like soft lad will even respond.
Andy Duff
26 Posted 18/01/2023 at 19:09:32
Averages out about 860 per hour since it was set up.

Hopefully this gets more than the average home attendance otherwise the club will laugh it off and those who still back the board will say it's still a minority who are causing trouble etc etc.

Stuart Bellamy
27 Posted 18/01/2023 at 19:11:35
Signed
Dale Self
28 Posted 18/01/2023 at 19:23:40
I don't want to get all soggy with so much to be done but a word of genuine thanks from this Okie retard that would be lost without my club identity. While I cannot be proud of the team's actions, the fans have given me pride in this episode.

The ‘27' organizers, the past contributors who framed the failures and all those who didn't settle for the brown plate special deserve much much respect. It's still shit, no doubt about it, but I do feel better thanks to what has to be one of the finest football communities. Keep it fucking going. UTFT!!!!!

Kunal Desai
29 Posted 18/01/2023 at 19:26:06
Signed.

Change at our club is long long overdue.

Brian Hennessy
30 Posted 18/01/2023 at 19:33:44
Signed.

I don't expect our narcissistic Chairman to resign voluntarily but, if Graham Sharp has any balls, he would resign now. The longer he stays there, the more it diminishes what he achieved as a player.

Chris White
31 Posted 18/01/2023 at 19:40:54
Done
Christine Foster
32 Posted 18/01/2023 at 19:53:42
Done
David Vaughan
33 Posted 18/01/2023 at 19:59:54
Signed. *Think there's an alrming typo in the article aboe. 'in expressing their satisfaction'????????
Jerome Shields
35 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:03:58
Over 6,000 signatures.
Dennis Stevens
36 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:04:06
Signed. What a sorry state of affairs. This Board seem to consider their own position to be the over-riding issue. No concern, it seems to me, for the Club and its supporters, or even the owner who's ploughed so much money into the Club.

Although, Moshiri is also culpable for failing to appoint an effective Board to run the Club for him.

Brent Stephens
37 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:04:15
6,000
Paul Tran
38 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:08:27
Done!
Winston Williamson
39 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:09:15
Signed and donated… bastards!
Nick Page
40 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:09:39
Brilliant!
Pete Bridson
41 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:10:49
Done & shared.
Kevin Molloy
42 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:14:47
There's a danger with everyone agreeing it gives the impression we're getting somewhere. I'm sure all the Sunderland fans were united as they headed off a cliff 10 years ago.

This is bad shit, cos left with just Farhad, as it looks like we are going to be, who would give 50p for any competent decisions being made? Bill, for all his faults, wasn't an absolute basket case like Farhad.

David Vaughan
43 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:17:21
Rob #21, LOL!

The 'V' on my keyboard is evidently like our owner... never appears when you need it!

Nick Page
44 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:22:57
Kevin @29. Bollocks to Sunderland. There are plenty of options and people who could form a functioning board for EFC.

The world hasn't stopped turning just cos Blue Bill's mask slipped. You make it sound just like what he wants you to think – we depend on him. We don't, for fuck's sake!

We don't need Evertonians on an Everton board. It's a professional (hint) organisation where the board, regardless of affiliation has a fiduciary duty to do the best for the football club… unless the owner says otherwise. It's lazy thinking and we've been guilty of it as a football club for years.

Kevin Molloy
45 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:26:20
well we'll see won't we Nick.
Derek Thomas
46 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:28:38
I'm not a happy camper. The football side is bad enough but, despite the club's shithouse tactics, we're not the ones to blame here.
Nick Page
47 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:29:27
Indeed, Kevin. Have some faith!
Kevin Molloy
48 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:31:46
In Farhad?
Bill Gall
49 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:34:30
Is this petition just for shareholders, where there are over 6,100 shares owned by others than Moshiri and Kenwright, or can anyone sign?
Nick Page
50 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:35:05
In a future without Kenwright.
Peter Neilson
51 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:38:45
Bill, it’s for any concerned supporter to sign. It says this on the petition, “the wider fan base”.
Tony Abrahams
52 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:39:31
It looks like we are just waiting for the last 100 shareholders to sign I think, Bill.
Barry Hesketh
53 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:39:37
Bill @36,

I believe that anybody can sign the petition, you don't need to be a member of anything connected to the club.

Alan Johnson
54 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:44:01
I've signed and I'm not a shareholder.
Paul Hewitt
55 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:50:37
Signed. Now get out of our club.
Danny Baily
56 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:57:03
None of this will help with our current situation.
Darren Hind
57 Posted 18/01/2023 at 20:59:49
Maybe Danny, but not signing definitely wont help
Barry Hesketh
58 Posted 18/01/2023 at 21:00:39
Danny @43
Well, it certainly won't make things any worse will it? I can't see how fans displaying their lack of faith in the board will hinder the board's ability to function? They are already dysfunctional with or without the fans views.


Neil Tyrrell
59 Posted 18/01/2023 at 21:14:55
Signed, almost 7000
Simon Harrison
60 Posted 18/01/2023 at 21:16:21
To answer any queries above, no, you don't have to be a shareholder to sign.

I signed and 'chipped in' before going to work this afternoon.

Here is a link to a legal firm, describing the petitioned-for process;

Removal of Directors

Here is a link to the pertinent section of the Companies Act (2006):

Section 168

For Section 169 (also needed to be read) just scroll down to the bottom, and click next provision.

Unfortunately, UNLESS Moshiri agrees to the proposed resolution, this is not going to fly, sadly. As, any proposed resolution requires 5%+ of shareholders for any proposal to be successfully requested.

Seeing as Mr Moshiri owns 94.1%, and Mr Kenwright owns 1.3%, that only leaves 4.6% outside of their control, ie, not enough to successfully propose a resolution.

For the legal 'spiel' see here;

General Meetings

Lastly, here is the official EFC share list on the EFC website.

Division of shares

However, please, Please, PLEASE sign the petition, as it is our only way of showing Mr Moshiri the extent of the support to replace the board!

#AllTogetherNow

NSNOW

Simon Harrison
61 Posted 18/01/2023 at 21:19:28
6,991 as of 21:19

Keep going, lads and ladies!

David Currie
62 Posted 18/01/2023 at 21:19:40
Signed now at close to 7,000
Nick Page
63 Posted 18/01/2023 at 21:24:31
If we get to 100,000 can we present it to Parliament? ;-)
Simon Harrison
64 Posted 18/01/2023 at 21:24:50
Darran [44] Absolutely, being apathetic now is just recklessly endangering OUR club, as much as the incompetents 'allegedly' running the show!

This is the most peaceful, and probably most powerful way (without resorting to a total boycott) of demonstrating OUR displease of the Board and the clubs hierarchy.

If in don't, please sign, and click the 'anonymity option', before submitting, and you do not have to donate. it is entirely optional.

Simon Harrison
65 Posted 18/01/2023 at 21:26:47
*If in doubt, please sign. Doh!!
Lynn Maher
66 Posted 18/01/2023 at 21:27:48
Signed. Over 7,000 now. Keep the faith.
Jeff Armstrong
67 Posted 18/01/2023 at 21:39:59
Signed, over a 1,000 added in 90 minutes, keep it going blues, our best 90 minutes of the season.
Ian Bennett
68 Posted 18/01/2023 at 21:42:16
Signed 👍
Colin Glassar
69 Posted 18/01/2023 at 21:53:37
Does 10,000 signatures get it raised in parliament? Bill's worst nightmare.

Moshiri probably doesn't even care.

Ray Robinson
70 Posted 18/01/2023 at 22:06:20
Remind me someone what the significance of 7,500 is?
Eric Haworth
71 Posted 18/01/2023 at 22:23:23
Simon #48,

I doubt whether there are many posters here who were under the illusion that this would succeed via the formal route of convening a general meeting of shareholders for a group of minority shareholders to table a resolution to remove board members.

Simply due to the fact that Mr Moshiri holds 94% of shares and would have to agree to convening the general meeting in the first place. Which he's never going to do, as he holds all the cards, so it would never get off the ground, and I think even the EFCSA are aware of this?

I think the whole point of the petition and vote of no confidence, is to draw widespread media attention to the fact that this isn't what the board would have you believe. That it's a group of Neanderthals who attack women because they're upset over their team losing a football match.

It's actually the oldest shareholders association in football representing the views of tens of thousands of its supporters articulating their dissatisfaction at the decades of incompetence of the board. Conducted in an orderly and responsible manner. Which is the sort of action by the sort of numbers that can't just be ignored or dismissed out of hand.

It could reverse the media feeding frenzy and refocus this negative spotlight from the fans onto the board?

Bringing the full power of the press to bear on them and not us, is what's ultimately going to be their undoing.

Eric Haworth
72 Posted 18/01/2023 at 22:28:15
Simon #55 not #48
Kevin Molloy
73 Posted 18/01/2023 at 22:53:47
I don't agree that concentrating on the Board right now is a good idea. A few weeks ago, it was common knowledge that Moshiri was talking with various parties with a view to getting the hell out, which would of course mean adios Bill.

Then the team went in the bin, and fatally no focus has been on the appalling Lampard, with the effect that he has stuck around to lose us crucial games against our rivals. A normal club would have booted Lampard by now, righted the ship and be well on the way to being sold.

But this obsession with Bill Kenrwright has banjaxed us, leaving a shit manager in post, and the media focussing on the boardroom and the fans to the detriment of all of us.

Tony Everan
74 Posted 18/01/2023 at 23:19:07
Kevin, I agree with the focus being shifted could really cost us. As you say, no other club in the Premier League would have let this really poor form drag on for so long.

Another factor is Frank's affability. He's such a lovely bloke nobody wants to turn on him. Frank's such a great kind of guy that even if Tyson Fury came back from training and found him in bed with his wife he'd say “ Hey Frank, sorry to disturb, would you like a cup of tea and a hobnob when you've finished? “

Bill Gienapp
75 Posted 18/01/2023 at 23:20:37
Signed. Almost at 8,000 now.
Brent Stephens
76 Posted 18/01/2023 at 23:25:12
I don't think this is a matter of concentrating on the board alone. We can tackle several issues at once, board and management. We can chew gum and walk in a straight line at the same time.
Kevin Molloy
77 Posted 18/01/2023 at 23:29:48
Tony, yes, his affability has done us no favours. hasn't done him any favours either, I'm sure he was hoping he would have been canned by now. The longer he sticks around the more it's his fault.

Brent, I would argue that the stinging criticism of the Board made it much more difficult for them to move against Lampard; it would look like they were using him as a scapegoat in such an atmosphere.

Brian Williams
78 Posted 18/01/2023 at 23:33:21
A normal club would have booted Lampard by now,

Kevin, if the normal club could afford to, they would. Our club simply can't afford to boot him because Moshiri has tightened the purse strings and we can't afford to pay up his contract, just as we can't afford to buy players.

We're fucked!

Gary Sedgwick
79 Posted 19/01/2023 at 01:20:35
8,337 have signed!
Derek Thomas
80 Posted 19/01/2023 at 02:15:18
Moshiri might have 94% of the shares – but he is Owner in name only.

Notwithstanding he still has a 'day job' to do... which can't be easy these days, I get the impression he's mentally 'left the building'.

He finishes the stadium — he's gone. He gets an offer he can live with, finished stadium and / or guarantees to finish it or not — he's gone.

Kenwright is The Designated Survivor... and he ain't no Keifer.

Kieran Kinsella
81 Posted 19/01/2023 at 03:23:16
Greg “Lord Haw Haw” O'Keeffe is saying on Twitter he's blocking Everton fans due to “abuse” relating to The Athletics coverage but will answer reasonable questions at a later time.

Novel idea. How about him, his successors at The Echo and the rest of Bill's mates and sycophants employ some form of journalistic integrity going forward before bad-mouthing fans?

Even the Daily Mail with agent King have crossed over, as have the Express. I also noticed Michael Ball in The Echo on one hand supports NSNOW but on the other slagged off Moshiri for circumventing Everton's “brilliant” PR people to talk to Jim White.

Hmm… who would that be, Bally? David Prentice, the fellow who gave you your column?

I'm fed up with these self-interested hypocrites. Bally out, Sharp out, Echo out,

Lyndon Lloyd
82 Posted 19/01/2023 at 05:30:26
Kieran, I think Greg is perfectly entitled to block people giving him pelters on Twitter and I'm also not sure how he or the Echo have bad-mouthed fans. It wasn't his decision to publish the headline on The Athletic without attributing the headlock allegation to a "club source" (since rectified) – the writers don't pen the headlines.

Like Juliette Ferrington at the BBC and Joe Thomas in the Echo, all Greg and David Ornstein did on Saturday afternoon was report the full context of the club's decision to instruct directors not to attend the Southampton game, which is what "the club" (read senior figures) wanted out there. It was an unprecedented decision, after all.

The later report by Greg and Paddy Boyland fleshed that out with the added context of Merseyside Police's claims that no offences had been reported which is when most people not already sceptical (ie, seasoned Evertonians!) started to question the narrative.

Just as I said on TalkSport on Monday that I think it's important to make the distinction between the peaceful protesters on the one hand and the actions of one unidentified person seemingly crossing the line in the Directors' Box with Denise Barrett-Baxendale and fans accosting players in the street on the other. We should also keep in mind that what the "brilliant" PR and comms people at the club might have done in terms of messaging (and the timing thereof) isn't necessarily the same as what the higher-ups did do.

There are some fine people working in Everton's Communications Dept, some of who I've met, others I count as friends and they don't deserve the abuse they've been receiving, some of it quite vile, for decisions they may have no influence over at all.

Marc Hints
83 Posted 19/01/2023 at 06:12:15
Signed and done
Danny O’Neill
84 Posted 19/01/2023 at 06:22:47
Thanks for that, Lyndon. Balanced and informative viewpoint.

It's important, if the fan base is going to be taken credibly by the national media, that we keep our heads and not appear like the Bolsheviks storming the Winter Palace in St Petersburg. A sort of (blue) Velvet Revolution as in the then Czechoslovakia would be more effective.

Maybe that's a bit deep, but I'm usually like this early in the morning.

I subscribe to the Athletic. I like it as a source for good articles on Everton, but also wider football and sport in general.

Derek Knox
85 Posted 19/01/2023 at 06:43:07
I have signed, just hope we reach 10,000 or more, maybe people will start to take notice then.

A pity this didn't happen many moons ago, when the Club was more salvageable and before Moshiri got involved. Of the millions wasted we only have Pickford to show for it realistically.

Still, I suppose better late than never, applies.

Sean Roe
86 Posted 19/01/2023 at 06:48:58
Signed
Jerome Shields
87 Posted 19/01/2023 at 08:01:28
So it was in the Director's box.They therefore who know who it is, being members and guests only.There would be witnesses.Since being changed from a headlock to being jostled . Now a historic non event.The PR department would not be involved in content. Just a malicious leak bypassing PR, from the head ups that has backfired.
Steve Brown
88 Posted 19/01/2023 at 08:22:27
Lyndon, I don't think the journalists printed the "full context" of the club's decision last Saturday and it's a bit lame to blame the sub-editor who wrote the headings

Take the Athletic for example. Gregg O'Keefe and David Ornstein printed an article entitled 'Everton CEO Denise Barrett-Baxendale put in headlock by fan' last Saturday. The article LED with the allegations briefed to journalists that our CEO was put in a headlock, subjected to sexually aggressive comments and had her car surrounded. The Club Statement was then included as part of the article BELOW the informal allegations.

The structure of the article conflated the two separate issues and was structured to give credence to the club's claims by linking the formal club statement and the informal allegations together - it was intentionally written that way. There was no attempt to separate the two issues or verify the allegations of violence towards the CEO. You could claim that was lazy journalism, but it wasn't.

Journalists like Ferrington, Thomas, O'Keefe and Boyland rely on stories fed from clubs every week and, therefore, will print what the clubs' formal and informal sources feed them. They value those sources above all else, and will never deeply question what they receive (or they will not receive anything).

O'Keefe and Boyland fleshed out the added context in a second article because the statement from Merseyside Police cut their feed from under them - they could have investigated the informal allegations in the days after the match but it is evident they did not do so.

A national journalist, might shrug off reactions from a particular set of irate fans following an article. But, O'Keefe and Boyland earn their living by focusing primarily on one club - Everton. Most Everton fans I have talked to now regard them as thoroughly discredited mouthpieces for the club hierarchy rather than credible sports journalists.

We know from an article published yesterday by O'Keefe and Boyland that 1) journalists were given the statement 2) then briefed on some of the wider context, including some of the specific email threats to the Chairman and CEO 3( then club representatives present also described an incident when the chief executive was put in a headlock.

And what did O'Keefe do? He typed up the lot and printed it knowing the impact such claims would have.

Steve Dowdeswell
89 Posted 19/01/2023 at 08:26:02
Signed - almost 9000 now.
Let's hope this will lead to action by the board / major shareholder.
John Bourne
90 Posted 19/01/2023 at 08:35:15
It comes to something when even I (who never posts) has signed the petition. It may not change anything, but if it only sends a message about our lack of confidence in how the club is being run, then it will have achieved something, because the outlook is certainly grim. I have been a supporter since 1969, sad times indeed.
Jerome Shields
91 Posted 19/01/2023 at 08:36:50
Steve#88

Who knows the Chairman very well and would be in Ian Wright's, a ex professional footballer, What's App group and in the Director's box?

The answer to that could explain the silence from the Club and those in the know.

Nick Page
92 Posted 19/01/2023 at 08:37:15
Great explanation, Steve @88!. I’ve never been a fan of GregOK nor have I ever subscribed to the Athletic. Hopefully subscriptions are being cancelled as we speak. Abysmal journalism. Shameful.
Nick Page
93 Posted 19/01/2023 at 08:38:20
Well done John @90. One in all in. Every signature counts!!!
Darren Hind
94 Posted 19/01/2023 at 08:49:35
Excellent Post Lyndon...And very timely.

We are all feeling angry (although I suspect some are simply enjoying the drama) and there is a tendency to lash out.

Not pointing any fingers because I did it myself recently, only to find the journo in question was very sympathetic to the plight of Evertonians.

Abuse will not win the day. Nor will pointing fingers at easy targets simply because The legitimate targets wont come out of their trenches.

Caution and calm minds required.

With very, very little coming from the club we need to be wary of shooting the messengers. Otherwise there'll be no message at all

Tony Abrahams
95 Posted 19/01/2023 at 08:58:20
I think when a cat corners a rat, it plays with it for a while before going in for the kill.

We need sensible articulate Evertonians, like Lyndon and Paul The Esk, coming to the fore now, and we need everyone else to start concentrating on the team.

My little daughter has just got one of those ‘Elexa things’ so listening to Neil Young, singing harvest moon, this morning, my only wish, was for me to see, those beautiful Everton fans, dancing once again!

Mick O'Malley
96 Posted 19/01/2023 at 09:08:56
I’ve signed the petition and shared it on twitter
Gerry Quinn
97 Posted 19/01/2023 at 09:17:16
Just heard this on the radio and thought it was very apt (John Farnham, You're the voice)

You're the voice, try and understand it
Make a noise and make it clear, oh, woah
We're not gonna sit in silence
We're not gonna live with fear, oh, woah

Ooh, we're all someone's daughter
We're all someone's son
How long can we look at each other
Down the barrel of a gun?

Brent Stephens
98 Posted 19/01/2023 at 09:57:57
Kevin #77 fair point.
Dupont Koo
99 Posted 19/01/2023 at 10:30:19
Even with the vote of non-confidence from the minority shareholders, the 5% will be easily squashed by Moshiri & Kenwright.

Time for something more dramatic: Yes, the team might need the crowds to raise their level and fight like last season. But the snobbish ones at Board Level need to be shown a harsher lesson.

Nothing would be more than an empty Goodison Park in the next home game, IMHO.

Julie Naybour
101 Posted 19/01/2023 at 10:42:38
Can someone please explain the ultimate goal of all this?
If the board resigns and Moshiri walks away, what happens then???

Is the board going to sack themselves?? And if they do, where does that leave us??

Alan McGuffog
102 Posted 19/01/2023 at 11:00:50
Where does that leave us Julie?

We've been paddling in circles up shit creek for decades. No real change then.

John Jennings
103 Posted 19/01/2023 at 11:37:53
The Everton Shareholders Association hold very little power, but the very fact that such a longstanding and normally undemonstrative group has seen fit to do this is very significant. We should all be signing (and sparing two quid) to help build momentum.

It would also be great to get some positive media coverage and keep this battle for the soul of Everton Football Club front and centre. The pressure needs to be continually cranked up on the Board until they have nowhere to hide.

Michael/Lyndon - are there any levers you can pull with your vast network? I am personally lobbying Jazz on the Fan Advisory Board to gauge what can be done through that channel. I am a member of the Shareholders Association, btw.

Bill Fairfield
104 Posted 19/01/2023 at 13:07:49
Almost 10,000 have now signed the petition
Julie Naybour
105 Posted 19/01/2023 at 14:37:19
I get why its being done. Sadly I'm only too aware of the mess

But I'm still not sure of the ultimate goal in this.

Are you hoping ti get the board to resign and if so what would happen then??

Tony Abrahams
106 Posted 19/01/2023 at 14:49:11
We are possibly heading for administration Julie, but I don’t know how this works when the club is in the middle of building a new stadium?

When a club goes into administration, I’m guessing all the old guard, will be asked to leave, but it is now starting to look like all the people who defended Bill Kenwright for years, spoke to soon, when they said “at least we never became another Leeds”

Leeds are lucky, they don’t have another set of fans in their city, but the stick for us Evertonians is going to be unmerciful, thanks to the bastard, who gave us some good times.

What is the plan of action? Because we are already rudderless anyway, wether this board resign or not.

Kieran Kinsella
107 Posted 19/01/2023 at 15:07:25
Lyndon

The Athletic and others raced to put the headlock story out and Greg himself retweeted on Saturday that the board had been subjected to "credible threats." He didn't use the word alleged. These stories created a snowball of criticism of Evertonians as other journos and the public piled on. Sky even twisted the pre match reception into some sort of threatening event. Ian Wright felt the need to apologize for his comments which showed fans in a bad light and he had seen messages from Kenwright specifically that seemed to legitimize the claims.

McNulty apart, going back to the Joe Royle row, the Echo and it's graduates show undue deference to Bill. And I say Bill because they have no issue writing articles criticizing Moshiri. While those articles have validity, they (McNulty apart) always avoid mentioning Bill in a Negative light.

Rather than saying "I will answer reasonable questions at a later date," why don't they a story explaining what actually happened, and who from the club put out a false or exaggerated story to them to begin with?

Barry Hesketh
109 Posted 19/01/2023 at 15:26:49
My take on the situation is that most Evertonians don't want to do damage to the club, however, there is a groundswell of opinion that those in charge have been able to sidestep deserved criticism by a combination of sacking staff and or board members and by feeding the media an "Everything is fine" narrative and there are only a few rabblerousers who make mischief for fun. "look at the stadium it's full, look at the waiting lists for season tickets etc" how can we possibly be failing?

The club had been fortunate by virtue of its general results on the pitch up to and including Martinez's first season, although there were enough critics of the board and the way the club was run, throughout that period.

When the financial backing of Moshiri arrived, many of those critics believed the club would change its mode of working and we'd become more akin to our peers. It appears that we have fallen between two stools, trying to operate the way it always had done, but not realising that any mistakes would be more expensive and longer lasting than previous errors.

Considering that the current owner works in the world of money and accounting, it's perverse that the club should find itself in breach of the basic rules of the football authorities and continues to make a loss, even seven years into his tenure.

As the financial figures have grown worse, so too have the results on the pitch, and the clubs ability to finance its way out of trouble, which has happened very often at various times in the last fifty years, has all but disappeared.

It's little wonder that fans are awakening to what the true state of affairs at Everton FC may be, and are anxious if not petrified about where this could lead. At a time when the supporters need some reassurances about the future of the club, the owner and his staff, appear to have hunkered down, out of sight and are hoping that all the bad stuff will just go away.

That in itself gives fans, little or no confidence in the people who make the decisions at Everton Football Club. Frank Lampard, if there are no additions made in this window, has to somehow, cajole and inspire his players, he must get the best out of the current crop, even if he doesn't rate them, he can't continue to snub or perhaps protect, his newer additions to the squad, he has to utilise every single player as best he can. If the players don't feel that they are all in it together, we have no chance of avoiding the drop.

Jerome Shields
110 Posted 19/01/2023 at 15:38:48
Julie#105

May be this will help.The NSNOW /27 years# is headed by various individuals who are capable of dealing with Moshiri and the Board and have the expertise to do so.

NSNOW

Mission Statement

Our mission is to unite the fanbase of Everton Football Club to demand the club uphold the values and principles of Nil Satis Nisi Optimum both on and off the pitch.

As lifelong fans of our great club, we are growing deeply concerned about the recent performance of our club, particularly off the field of play. We feel this needs to be addressed by Mr Moshiri, 94% Owner of Everton Football Club. There are four key areas to focus on; Finances, Ownership, Leadership and Direction (FOLD).

Finances: Other than the minimum statutory requirements, the club provides no information on its finances. On the back of constructing a new stadium, having extensive, continued losses, and profitability & sustainability issues, it is reasonable for shareholders and fans to expect regular updates on our finances. Our finances directly relate to our ability to compete.

Ownership: Since the summer, messaging from the club has been confusing. Is the club for sale? Are you seeking new investors to fund our working capital requirements? Other Premier League clubs seeking new investment or owners have appointed investment banks to handle their requirements. They have been clear with their communications. What is your intention, what are you doing and when will you communicate it clearly?

Leadership: In the near seven years since you acquired your initial shareholding you have persisted in retaining the current Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. There is nothing in the club’s governance, commercial, financial and indeed footballing performance, that suggests they warrant continued employment. As a result of huge losses and the squandering of resources, our competitive position declines on an annual basis in all respects. How can you justify their performance?

Direction: What are your ambitions (if any) for the club? The building of a new stadium, in isolation, will not cure the ills that have befallen Everton in recent years.So much more is required for us to be a competitive Premier League and ultimately European competitor once

more.

Change

We have short-term, immediate requirements, namely survival in the Premier League. But if that is not to be the limit of our ambitions in years ahead we have to see change at the football club. Change in the leadership, change in the culture that exists. You, as the majority shareholder, are the only person who can bring about that change. Surely you, with the financial commitment you have made, must recognise that change is necessary?

With respect, we ask you to directly answer the questions put to you. Tell us what changes are to be made to change the direction the club is heading.

You can register with the NSNOW website and ask individual questions you may have. I like Tony#106 fear we probably only seeing the tip of the iceberg and Administration my be the ultimate result., though has been forecast for a number of years,but has not materilised.If the Club keeps going as it is.What little we can do to prevent that is worth while as Evertonians.

Jim Lloyd
111 Posted 19/01/2023 at 15:46:56
Steve (88) An excellent analysis of some of the intrigue surrounding how the "incidents" were portrayed by the club and the reporters from the Athletic! Thanks for a top class post.

Julie (105) I think that most people generally want the major shareholder to get a grip on the slippery slope we are on down to the Championship. They want him to identify and rectify

1)What's caused it

2) Who's responsible

3) What is he going to do to arrest the slide

That is the very least that we want to see. The Board, if they had any integrity, would have resigned long ago as thos has been going on ever since Kenwright took over as Chairman. If you don't know the history of his mishandling of our club since he became Chairman, it;s worth finding out.

I was going to say (we) but can only say I. want to see a radical departure from the pathetic, and I feel Corrupt, practices since at least the Kings Dock disaster, and for rejecting interest from the Man City owner before he went up the East Lancs Rd; where City have now won numerous cups and championships up to date. The Board members have perhaps some reason to say " Not our fault Guv" but they are part of the decision making process and presumably have gone along with Kenwright's Captaincy of the good ship Titanic, oops! Everton FC; and at the same time is now £20 odd million to the good.

We look like we are in serious danger of relegation. If we don't start winning some games we could fall into the ChMPIONSHIP; AND MAYBE NOT GET OUT FOR YEARS, IF AT ALL! (sorry Michael) This going on while half of a very, importantant transfer window has gone by without any sign of reinforcements to midfield or attack. This is after selling our best hope of scoring last summer;and bringing in to players who, I can only think were available on the never never.

Quite rightly, many thousands of Evertonians, many who have been going the match since the 50's and many more since the sixties, up to younguns coming with their Mam and Dads, are in despair at the vacuum of of ideas, well at lweast any good ones!, coming out from Goodison Park, to such an extent, that our own Shareholders Association (small in ownership terms but great in dignity and upholding what their forbears have done) have asked Evertonians to sign for the board to resign. Ten Thousand, including me have done, in less than 1 day.

We are doing this because we love our club and want Moshiri to take control and ask the Board to resign whole he organises another Board to run our club. This Board is not doing it's job,

Jerome Shields
112 Posted 19/01/2023 at 15:53:47
Now over 10,000 signatures.
Eric Myles
113 Posted 19/01/2023 at 15:54:16
Petition page won't open for me, blocked I expect. Will find a VPN to get to it.
Jim Lloyd
114 Posted 19/01/2023 at 16:38:14
Jim Lloyd
115 Posted 19/01/2023 at 16:43:59
Jerome, this is outsatanding, the Shareholders know now that thousands back them, Hopefully more will sign in coming days as the word spreads there is a petition.
Well done to the shareholders of Everton Football Club!
Terry Downes
116 Posted 19/01/2023 at 16:46:48
Any one else on here think Bill is saying you all think i’m a twat i’ll show you whose a twat and deliberately not buying anyone ? Because every time I pick a paper up every team are buying except us ?
Mark Boullé
117 Posted 19/01/2023 at 16:48:48
Signed it - hope it gets somewhere!
Dave Lynch
118 Posted 19/01/2023 at 16:49:15
Apologies if this has been posted.

There is an interesting podcast on you tube from...'Across the Park' talking to Dave Kelly from the shareholders association.
Have a listen.

Tony Everan
119 Posted 19/01/2023 at 17:00:58
This is a great success, they can’t ignore 10,000 + signatures and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. We need dramatic change on how the club is run and this is going help force the issue.

No headlocks, no abuse, no violence, just massive numbers of true Everton supporters making an individual mark to demand change.

Jerome Shields
120 Posted 19/01/2023 at 17:26:16
Jim#115

Yes it is, considering as outlined by other posters how old and established the Association is.Hopeful NSNOW and its associated Fan groups and members have and will wheel in behind this petition and push it on to 55,000 the capacity of the new Stadium.Which is a achievable target.

Our Brother Bill would have difficulty with this Association's genuine Everton DNA,especially at this rate with two days before the Saturday game and then a week to the Arsenal game High risk has a whole new meaning with the Everton Shareholders Association back by enough Evertonians to fill a Stadium and headlines jumping on over the numbers.There also may be some legal validity with such backing and no AGM called.

Eric Myles
121 Posted 19/01/2023 at 17:42:36
Jerome #150, despite the numbers signing the petition the majority will not be shareholders and would not be in a position to force an AGM.
Michael Lynch
122 Posted 19/01/2023 at 17:52:59
Tony, yes it's a great achievement, but it's just an online petition. Anyone can sign it - Everton fans, Liverpool fans, my Auntie Mary's dog. And we have 31,500 season ticket holders alone - so the vast majority haven't signed it. So I think they can easily ignore it.

Anyway, I thought Denise B-B was looking for another job? I can't imagine her wanting to hang around much longer after this week's shenanigans, so that leaves Bill. If Moshiri has any sense, he'll make public a time-line for Bill's retirement and announce that he's begun a process to find his replacement. But I won't hold my breath.

Will Mabon
123 Posted 19/01/2023 at 18:11:50
Dave @ 118,

Watched it. Some Interesting points. Sort of confirms the whole chaotic nature of things in some ways. All very loose and disjointed for a large Premier League club. None of this should be necessary.

Simon Smith
124 Posted 19/01/2023 at 18:23:10
Signed. Over 15000
Jerome Shields
125 Posted 19/01/2023 at 18:44:35
Eric,

What you say is correct. Those that can, will be able to claim backing. But given the conduct of the Club they will probably be ignored. The Club seem to only be prepared to communicate via channels it set up and controls. They may even give lip service to them rather than engage which they have form in doing.

But the more they ignore now, the bigger the problem will be, and I expect Moshiri will be the first to crack. It is turning into a PR nightmare for the Board.

I agree that anyone can sign the petition, but it will get the above association recognised and their message across.

Nigel Munford
126 Posted 19/01/2023 at 19:43:00
Keeps telling my session has expired and doesn’t register my vote 🙄
John Keating
127 Posted 19/01/2023 at 19:44:29
Agree that there were some very interesting points from Dave Kelly. As he said, it's amazing how dysfunctional the club is.

Good to see Dave still fighting the good fight. Mellowed a bit and a bit more diplomatic from the Destination Kirkby days!

Barry Hesketh
128 Posted 19/01/2023 at 19:45:16
Simon @124,

I think you may have misread the site, as the current total stands at 10,671 a few moments ago. I imagine you saw the 'Let's get to 15,000" message and took as the number who had signed.

I would think that the total won't get much higher than circa 12,000, but that's still a significant number.

Andrew Bentley
129 Posted 19/01/2023 at 20:47:39
Dave @118, thanks for highlighting that podcast with Dave Kelly. Kudos to him for sharing his views and the work he does. Spoke a lot of sense.

Sobering his last comments about the foodbank situation. I know a famous Kopite said football was more important than life or death, but it isn't. We are all obsessed by all things Everton (well, I know I am after 40+ years!) but for people and families not to be able to get food to feed them and their kids in this day and age is criminal.

Every fan taking 1 tin with them to a game (if they can) is a great call to action for us all.

Will Mabon
130 Posted 19/01/2023 at 20:57:28
Andrew, tins need throwing at the psychos deliberately causing all this – and the traitors in the so-called government in bed with them. Criminal is the word.
Simon Smith
131 Posted 19/01/2023 at 21:30:19
Barry @128,

Yep, I was a bit over eager to sign and I did misread. Positive thinking maybe haha.

David McMullen
132 Posted 20/01/2023 at 00:10:44
How many did the RS get when they petitioned the against Bramley Moore?
Eric Myles
133 Posted 20/01/2023 at 05:34:08
Put a VPN on my 'phone to beat the censor and add my name to the petition.

Just over 11,000 now.

Jerome Shields
134 Posted 20/01/2023 at 08:33:41
On reflection 55,000 is a tad ambitious. But who knows… there maybe limited outlets for pent-up frustration.
Mike Keating
135 Posted 20/01/2023 at 12:29:54
Usmanov rears his ugly head once more;
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jan/15/questions-mount-over-alisher-usmanovs-links-with-everton-fc
Eric Myles
136 Posted 20/01/2023 at 12:40:48
Old news Mike, already been discussed to death.
Mike Keating
137 Posted 20/01/2023 at 12:45:43
Apologies - must have missed that during a break from TW on the advice of my GP.
Eric Myles
138 Posted 20/01/2023 at 12:51:08

See here Mike.

Sorry Mike, bear with me.

Odd, when I copy the link into a new tab it opens the correct page, but when I post the link here it opens this page??

Eric Myles
139 Posted 20/01/2023 at 13:01:29
Look for a thread entitled Fresh suspicion over Usmanov's involvement at Everton.

https://www.toffeeweb.com/season/22-23/news/43058.html

Seems to work if you copy and paste but not if I create a link.

Francis van Lierop
140 Posted 20/01/2023 at 13:29:17
Done.
More than 11.000 now
Brent Stephens
141 Posted 20/01/2023 at 14:33:41
Keith Baxendale just signed! Any relation?

Francis, I saw your name at the same time K Baxendale signed.

Eric Myles
142 Posted 20/01/2023 at 14:40:53
Brent, I saw that Denise herself had signed!!
Kieran Kinsella
143 Posted 20/01/2023 at 14:41:17
Brent,

I saw your post and not seeing what thread it was on started Googling Keith Baxendale thinking our scouts had unearthed so hidden gem.

Brent Stephens
144 Posted 20/01/2023 at 14:54:51
Wikipedia's first paragraph about "I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here" has the following. Sounds somewhat familiar:

"I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out Of Here!...sees a group of celebrities living together in extreme conditions with few creature comforts. Each member undertakes challenges to secure additional food and treats for the group, and to avoid being voted out by viewers during their stay, with the final episode's votes nominating who wins a series."

Mike Keating
145 Posted 20/01/2023 at 15:37:35
Eric @ 139
Thanks for the link. I was definitely under strict medical instructions that week to avoid ToffeeWeb and to go nowhere near Newsnow for the rest of the season.
Kieran Kinsella
146 Posted 20/01/2023 at 19:27:16
Sheffield United on their last set of accounts made a profit of £9 million. They are second in the Championship. And they've just been hit with a transfer embargo because they've fallen behind on payments related to past transfers.

This is why we can't get relegated. If a team in the black gets relegated and is having financial issues after relegation, then what would become of a team with hundreds of millions in yearly losses if it was relegated?

Michael Kenrick
147 Posted 20/01/2023 at 22:32:03
Kieran,

In a word: Parachute Payments.

Doh... two words. But aren't they to cover the financial shock of going down? Not that I am advocating such a disastrous outcome.

Jerome Shields
148 Posted 22/01/2023 at 11:49:16
Now over 12,500.
Stefan Busby
149 Posted 22/01/2023 at 19:34:38
Signed.
Dale Rose
150 Posted 22/01/2023 at 22:13:10
Signed...
Brent Stephens
151 Posted 25/01/2023 at 14:56:45
Kieran:

"Kia Jooranchian... says that Carragher is ignorant, lives in a glass house and had no education."

In defence of Carragher, I doubt he lives in a glass house.


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