Moshiri restates his commitment to Everton as reports suggest club is officially up for sale

Everton have been put up for sale by Farhad Moshiri, who is looking for offers of more than 𧺬m for the Premier League club.

Honestly, it's a good job the vermin aren't coming to the Arsenal game.

He is now sending the message, 'I couldn't give a rats arse about the future.'

I think Moshiri has gone round the bend.

It's not his choice to sack Frank then does so without telling anyone, let's us sink to rock bottom, builds half a stadium, puts our few decent players up for sale then expects some mug to buy this bomb site of a club off him for 𧺬 million.

Is there a provision in English law to create a guardianship when a business owner of unsound mind puts jobs and a community in jeopardy?

There you are, Bill, new West End Show to get your teeth into It's goodnight from Mosh and it's goodnight from me!"

Happy Days. There is a small light appearing down a very long dark tunnel.

Fuck off, Kenwright, you 24-carat buffoon.

Perhaps a bit unfair, but I do feel he's done this at the worst time possible.

Will this put the new Everton Stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock on hold?

Maybe a blessing in disguise to have an almost complete clear-out from top to bottom. Sadly though it may or be increasingly likely it will be via the Championship. 😥

I saw that. Billy Smart is the favourite to take over now.

When you think of what great shape the club was in when he took over. a spine of Stones, Barkley and Lukaku to name but three. This is what happens when you do business with absolute unscrupulous scumbags.

I'll bet Sky News will be all over it... ignoring the barcodes and other dodgy owners.

Moshiri has now ensured relegation. Potential signings won't come near us. Anyone in demand can't wait to get out.

EFC as we knew it is finished.

Just our luck, we get a cash-rich oligarch owner and the maddest Russian since Rasputin decides to kick off right at our point of highest financial exposure. As they say, it's the hope that kills you.

Get the fuck out of our club!!! Fucking pond life!!!

Though it's great timing for a buyer in theory, who the hell wants a deteriorating asset, that's been losing crap loads of money, that's about to go out of the Premier League, and has to spend big money to complete a stadium.

Clearly only another middle east "sovereign fund" would have the means to fund this endeavor. Get ready to join Man City, PSG and Newcastle in the sportswashing boom era. From the People's Club to just another sheikh's club.

No one in their right mind going to pay what Moshiri wants with the stadium commitment.

We really are looking at something not dissimilar if our board continually fail to address the cancer in this club (though the cancer is them).

We have become a laughing stock, a cautionary tale on how not to run a club. A lesson on how to destroy a club from the inside out.

There's gonna be a lot of 'you got what you deserved', and to be fair, they would probably be right.

Bill, thanks for ruining our club, that's what you'll be remembered for… The sooner you're kicked out, the better, along with the rest of your cronies, including Sharp.

You get an established club still (just about) in the most lucrative league in the world, with full capacity at every home game. You get a state-of-the-art stadium, suitable not just for club football, but also for international games and concerts. No need to apply for planning permission, or even do the tricky part of the build – it just needs finishing. and the naming rights selling.

Sure, it's a club in distress, but if it wasn't it would cost twice as much. Even if Everton are relegated this season, smart ownership should see it back in the Premier League sooner rather than later.

I'd definitely buy us if I had half a billion quid. As it is, I'm happy to go halves with someone.

Or... he has a buyer lined up and waiting in the wings, he may be chancing his arm for a better offer.

As a Championship side, the value of the club and therefore the price would significantly diminish. It's therefore an odd time to make such an announcement and I imagine there's part of the story we don't know. He would be selling at a net loss.

As for buyers, it's cheaper to but a 𧺬M club and sink a billion dollars into it than to pay two or three billion for the likes of the Red Shite.

Hopefully Kenwright and Co go the same way.

Then we can move on and up! 🤞🤞🤞

I thought that too, but they will want/need a much bigger capacity of 53k, and it's too late to change it now.

That Jazz Bal resigned about a fortnight ago, didn't he?

Nothing will happen this season.

FOR SALE - One worn out Norwegian Blue, seen much better days, though has had some good times, relatively speaking. A new cage is also included, though it's not quite complete but has a pleasing river view and could be well worth more than the Norwegian Blue itself. Ideal for rock concerts, rallies, boxing matches and possible World Cup / Euro games. Contains some type of football museum - based on pre-Premier League period. New Proprietor needs to be aware that a Living Statue is part of the deal. This statue dressed in Blue, wearing blue-tinted glasses needs wheeling out every Saturday at 3pm and the Z-Cars tune played. Any tears to be collected and sold to devotees. All monies go to the very successful EitC Charity.

All enquiries to PO Box 1878, London.

It makes for a good bout of irrational paranoia though - FSG getting Standard Chartered to facilitate finance for American stooge investors in EFC, who then sell the stadium on to the RS when we are in administration. Saying ‘sorry, we had no choice.' Then they disappear back into their remote Caribbean hideaways.

I'll start.' It's the end of the world as we know it'.

I wonder if the club sale might be detached from the stadium and docks redevelopment?

I've never quite understood what was in it for Moshiri & Usmanov but the stadium seemed to be the key. They might cut their losses on the failed vanity football project but keep some interest in the property & stadium side of things which seems to be going well while all else fails…

I have to say that, although we have had loads of managers, we the fans have helped with getting rid of some of them. Like someone mentioned yesterday on another thread, we cried out for Koeman to be gone and we finished 7th. Same with Silva we finished 8th but no, we moaned and he was gone.

We the fans also have to look in the mirror and say where we being to greedy wanting to break into that Top 6. Just because we did it when we had no money.

He has a New Clear Ambition apparently he wants to Fire Kenwright but he needs a bigger cannon.

I wonder where the Gordon and Onana money will go? Players in? Hmmmm?

As for the stadium, where does any sale of the club leave the finances for that? Quite a bit to unravel there. I am guessing that this farce is going to get an awful lot worse.

We've no manager.
We can't recruit because manager can't entice them if he even wanted them.
No player will come without a manager, not really.
Can't make a good manager appointment.
Transfer deadline is looming.
Money is tight if we have any at all.
And we're having other clubs trying to pick the bones from our squad.
We could /should recoup 㿞M for Gordon and I'd sell –he's not that good.
But no time to replace and improve I'd say in the time we have.

We are circling the drain….

Everton have NOT been put up for sale despite reports, with owner Farhad Moshiri 'close' to bringing in 'top investors' as club battle relegation ahead of move to new stadium next year

Everton not for sale

Have to say that is genius n made me chuckle in these morbid times

Kudos to you

“It is bereft….this…is a dead parrot…”

We can't recruit because manager can't entice them if he even wanted them.
No player will come without a manager, not really.
Can't make a good manager appointment.
Transfer deadline is looming.
Money is tight if we have any at all.
And we're having other clubs trying to pick the bones from our squad.
We could /should recoup 50m for Gordon and I'd sell he's not that good.
But no time to replace and improve I'd say in the time we have.
We are circling the drain….

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64390663

The Mail cites the FAB interview as source which was from Saturday

If there's any truth in this, God only knows what's happening, but if true, this board must then surely be on their way out.

What a poxy mess Everton is in; the toxicity over the last few weeks could get far worse.

How the hell is any manager gonna join Everton?

I'm praying for some miracles.

It takes smart to run a club well but I doubt anybody could have been smart enough to run a club like Everton into the ground deliberately. Can you imagine that they did it together too following Kenwright groupthink?

I'm with Robert T, Moshiri wants out asap, and this might be a desperate move trying to make these Americans move faster, but I can imagine having to go through Everton's books will be very, very time consuming.

Is it also true that last years books are well behind time, and have to be produced very soon? Kenwright's lies, have really come home to roost, and the man who kept on giving, has finally realized he's been taken for a fool.

This makes the uncertainty even worse for the fans and the players, who are left dangling in the relegation zone, without a manager or a plan. Utter chaos.

We could be about to get new investors, an exciting new manager and (funded by AG to Saudis) go sign 2-3 new players in the next week.

Or

We could end up up for sale for 6 months+, having a fire sale of Gordon / Onana / Pickford / DCL / Keane / Holgate / Doucoure and anyone else who gets in a reasonable bid this week….coupled with Tait and Baines managing 3 age groups for the foreseeable.

Or anything in between…...

My guess is it'll just all end up amazingly underwhelming…..Just Gordon out, and some French or African winger no-one really knows signed on loan last day of the window. Biesla or Dyche in just after the window closes with a short term deal getting rid of those Gordon millions to their pension pots, and the owner confirming nothing about bids or takeovers.

Slow, grey, death by 1000 cuts. Think I'd actually take the firesale and Tait…..just change your name to Paulo Taitio kid, play the kids, and let's just hope we survive.

Kenwright's famous "we've had some good times" was a signal the game was up. He could see what was coming.

I've just watched the Moshiri interview. You could almost believe him, his good intention, but he just comes across as extremely naive. Or, thick. “There is a clear process in place for recruiting players, they (potential signings) are assessed by Kevin Thelwell, further checks are carried out into their character, a report is submitted to the Chairman, then to me”.

Who could argue with such an exhaustive process? Exhibit one for the Prosecution: Danjuma.

The Guardian has recent form for throwing massive bombs in Everton's direction but then never following up, just letting them hang in the media ether, like a bad smell. Citing Deloitte seems to add weight... but then they are declining to comment, which could mean anything or nothing.

I still think it makes absolutely no sense for him to sell at this time, but I guess time will tell. It does seem to run counter to what Moshiri told Jazz Bal just on Saturday, but unfortunately we know that means next to nothing.

What an absolute shit-show.

Then chuck around that a 𧺬m stadium is costing (and therefore worth) 𧾰m, and sell the most valuable players in January for as much as we can get to ease the debt.

He's right about the stadium though, it's been done very professionally and almost like it's been done by a completely separate entity.

Explains the director of football role, and why it's been used, but I'm still not convinced, especially because he keeps using the word expert, although he does think that talent spotting needs to improve!

The biggest single issue imo, is the lack of professionalism, and although he's trying to answer questions, and put on a positive spin, it's clear that just “hearing him talk” he hasn't got a clue about hard nosed professionalism, in a footballing sense.

Even though I don't trust anyone at Everton, right now, I'm calm, and I'm just waiting to see what the next few days bring.

I will also always keep a little bit of faith, because Everton has always risen, like a phoenix through the flames, and WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED.

“This is the most critical time in our history and almost an existential point”

Is he talking about the existential consequences of relegation ?

I strongly suspect you fancy keeping your shiny new stadium for yourself but selling the club and leasing the stadium back to us for ridiculous money… just a hunch!

I would rather believe an owner who when he became majority shareholder in 2016 his own personal wealth was listed as 1.6 billion today it is listed at 2.6 billion. Of course he would like other people to come in and invest in someway all owners do, but to disbelieve what he says over what a newspaper reporter says is ridiculous.

And by the way anyone who thinks I am a F.Moshiri supporter hasn't read any of my comments over the last couple of months that he is responsible for the mess we are in, and he should take the blame. If and it is a big if, he can as he says get us out of this mess I may change my mind and on this interview I will give him a chance

'Everton have been put up for sale by owner Farhad Moshiri with an asking price of 𧺬m.'

'Arsenal could rival Chelsea for Brighton midfielder Moises Caicedo, 21, in the summer.' 'The Seagulls have put a 𧴜m price tag on the Ecuador international.'

Good to see our historic club is now worth only FIVE Brighton players!?!

Kudos to Moshiri for allowing the interview to take place, but his judgement has to be questioned, because of the state the club seems to be in at the minute. He also believes that the people he has employed at the top end of the club are good professionals, they may well be, but are they effective? How come the club and its owner never seem to speak as a single entity?

So, at the very least it was good to finally hear from the owner, but I will be much happier as I have said before, when Kenwright "steps down " due to health issues and DBB moves back to Eitc, opening the door for "improvement" on the board.

Lots of spin answering questions but little substance nor addressing the contentious dreadful communications from the board.
I give him a 5 out of 10, but only that because he turned up which is more than any of his board are supposed to do.

I knew before they went to Oz that time was of the essence. A new manager, new transfer tatgets and we had time. But they stumbled along oping that somehow Frank's way would suddenly bare fruit.
It has to be that he has run out of money because as an accountant and owning a football club, he will have been aware of Chelsea's scheme of long contracts, enabling them to spread the costs over 8 or 10 years and avoid FFP hassle.
He has lost his moneyman. He is fronting the stadium build on his own.
He must be ready to cut his losses and sell-up. He will be long gone and won't have any more fans to worry about.
He can bullshit us until he is ready to go.

I don't trust him an inch.

I've not read all the posts, so sorry if SPAM.

.I wonder if there where discussions of what the questions would be since the supporting footage was timely orchestrated.It was obvious that Moshiri's objective was to get the Fans on board with sympathy and reassurance that something was going to be done, asking for 12th man support.

His belief in structure and procedures came across as naive.I have often came across Managers who have followed procedures, had structures with titles where everyone had job description and everything looked well, only to end in a quarterly loss.He has really being sold a pup as regarded turnout of date concepts regarding Medical Services. Moshiri in recruitment seemed to quite accepting of the failures.If it was me I would be asking wtf is this happening and would be looking at the structure and people involved, stating it was totally unacceptable and not to be tolerabled..Database !!! they would know not to come out with that BS..

I thought he was obviously briefed quoting the Strategic Review and the 26 new positions.He should have been asked what the original strategy was, but Jaz seemed to be restricted to the question, with no provision to ask a follow up question. I also thought that saying he would more appointments if necessary, showed he had not got a clue,with one of the biggest wages% in the Premiership.

The bottom line is that none of his answers where given in a financial context and no question where asked from a financial view point, which was probably restricted due to being Financially sensitive.His reassure on Denise working hard and Bill being loved had no bearing what so ever, given the disastrous Club financial situation.

As for the Stadium it is a Fixed term contract managed by a another company and an independent Management team.Denise going about with a hard yellow hat with a high vis vest, surrounding by similarly atired individuals walking towards a camera fooled noone.

Yes, it would not surprise me if he flogged the whole lot, hopefully shafting Bill in the process.As for Evertonian Premier League Survival being safe????? I think not.

Moshiri for me came across as someone who has been completely and utterly bullshited by Kenwright.He thinks he is grabbing the Bull by the horns.In reality he is grabbing the Bull by the tail and is ending up being covered in it.

Everybody seems to have cut to the chase, with a simple bit of covert cleverness being missed.

Moshiri has, for the last 18 months openly stated that he has been looking for investment in the stadium. He has now openly stated in the interview, that he CAN finish the build himself; but, he wants a Professional Sporting Company to invest, to add their sporting expertise to the club.

He also stated, that Kenwright was well 'liked', I'm not using Moshiri's word, in the 'football community', not the club, the 'football community'. Plus, on Saturday, they sat apart in the Director's area with only the briefest of greetings.

Maybe, just maybe, the protests have helped take the scales of his (FM) eyes, and is looking for a way to circumvent the alleged contract caveat, that Kenwright stays as Chair of the board?

Secondly, maybe the announcement that the club is for sale, means just that, you can buy EFC for 𧺬Bn, but you don't get BMD for that, as that still needs another 𧾰m - 𧹺m = 𧷮m (as of now) for completion of a ٟ.1Bn Stadium (His words)

So, he sells the club, after repositioning ownership of the stadium. Completes the construction of BMD, and as such he has paid approximately 𧿶m for the club initially, and revenue/purchase costs, then recoups his losses by selling the stadium.

Thus initial figure of -𧿶m Club purchase & costs to date)

Sale of EFC +𧺬m = -𧸂m

Finish construction of BMD -𧾰m = -ٟ.09Bn

Sells BMD for ٟ.125Bn makes 㿅m approximately, but more importantly gets out of the loss making machine that is EFC.

I really do think he is hedging his bets, as a successful business man would do; or rather covering his bases.

I.e. get someone in, and get financial relief, and get rid of Kenwright; or do a Pontius Pilate, and wash his hands of the club, BUT with a new investor for the club, and his own shiny new stadium to sell.

Kevin #23 you're joking right??

Now, nigh on football-bankrupt because of those actually involved in the past six years of alleged DoF/managers' decisions re signings, he admits he still backs Kenwright's judgement regardless of his own DoF!

Insane/corrupt/delusional/thick - just what are you Moshiri, and what sort of world developed your surreal personality?

It's either an existing asset with value and more investment needed. Or it's just a big cost for the new owner to fulfil if it is to go ahead.

It's very conceivable that a new owner might say forget it. Terminate and pay what it is owed (plus termination and demolition/make good costs).

As always seems to be the case nowadays with Everton, there are no easy choices. If you drop one ineffectual player you have to pick another one. Sack the manager but no guarantees of getting someone who can do more. Get rid of the owner but Lord knows what the next one will do with what they've acquired.

Circling the drain indeed.

I'd be surprised if anyone decent wants to sign for this team. Player or coach. I'd expect even Laing O'Rourke will be asking for assurances or up front payments now given the state of the club.

Basket case.

He hasn't been listening to the supporters at all and appears to be putting all the onus on Thelwell to get the football side right while failing to address Thelwell is controlled by him and Kenwright.

How that guy ever became a billionaire is beyond me, well maybe not if you assume money laundering for Russian oligarchs makes you quite wealthy.

The Echo reports that they have spoken to Moshiri this evening in direct response to the Guardian's article and received further denials that he is looking to sell. So at this point I don't know what to believe.

As for the interview, it's difficult to criticise anything Moshiri said. On the face of it, it seemed to be an honest and unrehearsed account of our current position. I do, however, see two main issues.

The first is that is didn't address our current, serious relegation threat whatsoever. None of these long term strategies and measures will keep us the Premier League and that, for me, is the single most important target at the moment.

The second issue was that I have quite simply lost faith in Moshiri, the board and the club to execute. Even if their plan is sound, and that's a stretch, they have consistently shown an inability to deliver.

It is a pity that Jazz Bal didn't directly ask what is being done to try to prevent relegation. Sacking Lampard was clearly part of the answer. But why, 25 days into the transfer window, have we not yet signed anybody? Are we truly that hamstrung by financial fair play?

And furthermore, if we are relegated, is the club prepared? How does it alter the long term plan and what measures have been put into place to ensure we give ourselves the best opportunity to bounce back quickly?

Heaven help us now…

Edit; Keiran @ 132: I reckon Lampard was just glad Somebody fired him and that he is out from under, with the Compo to follow.

As Michael Kenrick pointed out, The Guardian have regularly been posting unsubstantiated stories bashing Everton. So, with his further denial in The Echo tonight, I'm inclined to dismiss The Guardian story as nonsense.

But I expect that if Moshiri sold the Club he would 'buy' the stadium from EFC, exchanging it for his personal debt.

He states that he has never proposed a player to bring to the club? So what was the El Ghazi deal all about with his best mate Kia helping him out?

Secondly if he had a private meeting with Lampard after the Brighton game, shouldn't he, Thelwell or whoever is responsible for the recruitment of the next manager be sounding out candidates three weeks back?

Everything about this man just stinks.

On reflection I actually think that Moshiri was wheeled out by Kenwright and Barret Baxendale to do a stage managed and orchestrated presentation.Credit to Jaz from FAB, who managed to get through enough questions to expose it for what it was.On financial side he was clearly restricted by financial sensitivity, which it would have been difficult to argue against.

To me Moshiri is a accountant who specialises on Offshore work and moving money about.He has little knowledge of running a business operation.

The Stadium on the Financial side shows where his forte is.The operations control by a professional and efficient outfit.On the Club side he has provided realms of finance either directly or indirectly, but on the operations of the Club he has left it in the hands of self serving amateurs,who are ineffective and not capable of running a football Club, but can bullshit on presentation and systems.

Him talking about bringing in people as investors who have Professional Sport Management know how on the Club side is interesting.

But this points to Kenwright and Barret Baxendale having yellow hat and High Vis, walking into camera roles on the football side.I am not sure that would workout.

I don't remember him being too concerned by the relegation threat, which is worrying. We will address or fix it, he said.He would need to find out fast and get there collectives asses in gear urgently imo.

What an absolute mess. We are being dragged through the hedges backwards by all and sundry, especially the media who are having a field day.

Have this board no shame? Surely they can see what's going on but not one of them is brave enough to speak out and offer some comfort or better still, resign.

The club can't be sold quick enough but, knowing our luck, nothing will happen, we'll struggle to bring in a manager, lose some players to the vultures circling and no one will come in with 6d left. I guess it's always darkest before the dawn.

Moshiri was high on spin. I agree their were some questionable statements,as far as facts go, as other posters have pointed out.

Bill Kenwright is one of the most loved and respected men in football and Denise [Barrett-Baxendale], I have seen first-hand the work she does on the stadium and all facets of club development.

Inteview Transcript

I understand what you are saying Jerome, but unless he gets rid of the underachieving nepotistic's, who is going to invest in our club? If Kenwright hasn't got a clause that says he should remain, he should be removed, and if he has, then only the sale of Everton, would be enough to finally remove him.

Understandably I wouldn't imagine to many are queueing for the job, surely if Moshiri wanted Bielsa then shouldn't he have sacked Frank before the World Cup and give Bielsa 6 weeks to work with the squad. Because if they appoint him it will take weeks to get this squad up to speed and we don't have weeks to wait. In fact every day delayed in appointing a manager is guaranteeing that relegation will be unavoidable.

Jerome [155] I take it that was sarcasm? I hadn't noticed anyone else prior to my post mention it on here. If my wording of my post offended you, I apologise, as I find you to be one of the more level headed, and thoughtful posters on here. Apologies again if you felt insulted.(?)

Wrong - he only mentioned him once and seemed to condone the man - it was Thelwell who was mentioned several times that seemed to have the onus for all the malaise put on his shoulders.

Jerome & Christine,

I think, rather than Moshiri is now being played by Kenwright and Barrett-Baxendale, I think he is slowly but surely undermining them.

For example, when he spoke to Jim White, he didn't notify the club, nor follow his own promise of going through the correct channels. Even though it wasn't a particularly well-thought-out interview, it was heartfelt by Moshiri. Also, it gave the board and the club the middle-finger too.

Next, we have the 'confusing' statement that Moshiri isn't responsible for sacking the manager after being door-stepped after the West Ham game; even though he had Thelwell on his right-hand side shoulder all game, whilst Bill was 3-4 seats down on his left...

Then it is announced to the press that Lampard has been sacked, but the club know nothing, and it transpires that Moshiri (and probably – assumption here – including Thelwell too) took the unilateral decision to sack Lampard. Again, flipping the 'bird' to the club and board.

Then we have this interview between Moshiri and Jazz Bal, yet the initial board response was that a 'board representative' would meet with the FAB, and try and answer the questions from the FAB and Fan Forum meetings with fans. Yet again, Moshiri takes the chair in a relaxed one-on-one 'interview' with Jazz, and downplays what the board actually do. Going against what the board had actually said was going to happen...

With all that running through my head, I think he is looking for an initial majority investment in the club, with a couple of caveats of his own. Of which one could possibly be, if 'the' 'Professional Sporting Investment company' does take over, then they vote to remove Kenwright and Barrett-Baxendale, to which Moshiri can abstain from, so he doesn't renege on his contract, and the terrible twosome can swan off into the sunset together. With maybe Denise being retained in an initial consultancy role to help finish the stadium, and to oversee a handover of running EitC.

In a nutshell, I think Moshiri has realised that Kenwright and Barrett-Baxendale are the problem after all, and until his hands are contractually unbound, he can't do anything about it, until a new majority investor takes over.

The following is from a business article posted today:

"Everton FC owner, Farhad Moshiri, has denied reports that the club is for sale.

However, he did confirm he is in negotiations with specialist sport investors to add firepower to the club's finances, particularly for its new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock.

The Guardian newspaper has reported Mr Moshiri, who bought the Premier League club in February 2016, has put the Blues up for sale, while the Mirror claims he is open to either a full or partial takeover of the business.

It is claimed he is seeking 𧺬m for a full sale.

Jazz Bal, chair of the Everton Fan Advisory Board, asked Mr Moshiri directly whether the club is now up for sale, to which he responded: “The club is not for sale, but I have been talking to top investors of real quality to bridge a gap on the stadium.

“I can do it myself. I want to bring top sport investors into Everton for some of the reasons that the fans want, improvement, more talent, and we are close to having a deal done.”

He added: “It's not selling the club at all. It's just bringing in more expertise, in terms of global sponsorship, in terms of commercial development and a lot of specialist sport investors have this pool of knowledge, and that is to secure that for Everton.”

The owner gave the interview prior to the Blues' away fixture at West Ham last Saturday, which they lost 2-0, resulting in the dismissal of manager, Frank Lampard.

The loss left the club second from bottom of the Premier League, on goal difference, and in danger of a catastrophic relegation to the Championship, which some observers believe could result in its administration or liquidation.

However, the owner sought to calm fears in his interview, saying the board has a plan to remedy the bleak situation."

From this 'The Business Desk' article:

Moshiri Comments

Make of this what you will. Personally, I am starting to feel a little more encouraged about the long-term situation; now just get the playing side working!

Maybe “ Every cloud has a silver lining” ?

It's certainly offering a ray of sunshine midst the dark clouds gathering.

What's that old adage "We live in interesting times! bloody right there!

I take from that, he isn't going anywhere until the stadium is built and he believes he is close to securing the investment he needs.

Also, a non-obvious reference that change is needed.

I'm reading between the lines, but if I'm seeing that as I read it, just a shame you didn't do it several years ago.

Although the finance thing was dictated by events as we all know.

Besides as I have mentioned before that Jazz Bal and two others resigned from NSNOW about two weeks ago, so when was this alleged Interview ?

I neither think that Jazz Bal represented the majority of Everton Supporter's Views, and concerns anyway, real or not.

I ignored the nonsense of "what is the strategy for such monies" as PUT THE PLACE UP FOR SALE was clearly too complicated for the poor chap.

And here we are still without the "FOR SALE" notice up despite reports to the contrary.

A well constructed post.

I'm beginning to think that Moshiri is gently pulling on the noose for BK & DBB to hang themselves.

Not sure how long ago it was, but quite some time, I posted to the effect that Moshiri was giving BK opportunity to put his head in a noose, before he started pulling on it.

Is Moshiri laying the ground rules for the future by easing BK & DBB out, giving them the opportunity to jump before he finally pulls the noose tightly.

Have I misjudged Moshiri?

But somehow, he asks for patience from fans and yet gives the DoF little time to implement anything, 3 in 6 years!

So the football questions should be put to Kevin. Who actually helps identify, recommend and believes the past managers and players we signed are good enough?

I'm not blaming Kevin but I would be interested to know who he has lined up for our next manager if not Nuno. Surely that's his benchmark for any alternative candidates.

First impressions? An honest interview.

He talks a lot about patience and long-term view. That kind of resassures his commitment as does his talk of the stadium investment and attracting other to invest, which he claims is close.

Also his desire to get us competitive and play in Europe.

From this interview, I get he wants to succeed with Everton before he sells, which I imagine he will one day.

The only worries are the immediate alarm bells and his insistent support of the current board who he can't see the wool between his eyes with.

I can't doubt his intent or his vision, or his commitment. I commend it as we see that stadium rising above the Mersey. One day, we will see trophies paraded around that ground.

But my last 3 games in person have been the 2 Bournemouth ones and West Ham away.

I'm in emotional football turmoil at the moment and still very upset from the weekend, so give me a moment..

I get the patience message and that it won't happen tomorrow. But right now on the pitch it needs to.

The red-Shiite loaded media are practically joyful at our current situation and are busy adding fuel to the fire. It's more likely that one of these wankers, who coincidentally only ever get about 1% off football rumours correct, has seen the words “Moshiri needs money” and made up their own narrative. After all, what's the consequence if they're wrong? They're just out for click bait, and fans who are running amok like rabid dogs fuelled by this shite aren't helping at all.

If we're to survive and have any hope of attracting a new manager and performing CPR on our dying club, we need cool heads.

The guy cutting my hair was a Kopite who I'd known for years and I regularly got him and his son tickets for Anfield as my wife and sister worked there. His other son was an Everton season ticket holder.

Like you say, cool heads. A long way to go. Fingers and toes crossed. Dogs anxious but we're still in the game and the fight.

Throughout early January, Everton's Fan Advisory Board coordinated a series of online and virtual meetings at which supporters were invited to put forward their views about the Club.

Last week, prior to Everton's game against West Ham United, majority shareholder Farhad Moshiri met Fan Advisory Board chair Jazz Bal to pick up some of the themes from the fan feedback received.

Everton Fan Advisory Board

Good times eh? We're in the news, it must be good times

I presume that by putting a 𧺬 million price on it, he will tell any buyer that they are getting the club for nothing by buying the stadium or vice versa.

What is the least worse outcome from this that we would expect? Will Kenwright be left to handle the fire sale and, remain in charge.

To quote the great John Lennon, "Nobody told me there would be days like these, strange days indeed."

Just thinking out loud. Trying to see the wood from the trees. But with Everton hope is short-lived.

Just thinking out loud.Trying to see the wood from the trees.Bit with Everton hope is short lived.

For January 2023 read January 2022... Club for sale, club not for sale. Player for sale, player not for sale. Player signing, player not signing. Former player slags off board. New manager appointed. Fans protesting about absentee owner, charlatan chairman, inept board, clueless chief executive, silent non-executive director, hopeless director of football, hapless manager, lazy unfit players. Players not at training, players attending pre-arranged appointments. (Really?!)

No struggling club is ever a happy club but so dire is the narrative around our disunited club, it is hard to see a way out of the mire we are in.

As far as the football itself is concerned, if we are destined for relegation, I just hope we go down attacking teams. The time for defending our way to survival has passed.

When are the Forest tickets on sale…?

It would be good if you could assume that Moshiri had one up on Kenwright and his side-kick Barrett-Baxendale. This interview imo is a step-up presentation, on his previous two letters to fans which most of us thought was written by Barrett-Baxendale with the Chairman's blessing.

In relation to Thewell, in this interview, Moshiri paraphrases Barrett-Baxendale 's nothing letter on the Strategic Review. A review that did not take place because there was no strategy in the first place is the general consensus.

The difference is this time that Jazz under constraints managed to ask him questions that exposed Moshiri for what he is. I don't know why Jazz resigned from FAB, but he did not seem happy with the answers he was getting and probably realised he was feeding Moshiri enough rope to hang himself.

To successfully take on Kenwright & Co a cultural change would have to be tackled at all levels in the Club. Moshiri has attempted this with Managers Ancelotti and Benitez with little success. He appears now to be going to a different level, with his proposals of Professional Sport Management. But he is again avoiding his responsibility as owner by not taking necessary direct action, and allowing the internal management that he agreed to continue in situ on his taking over the Club to remain even as everything is going pear-shaped as a result.

Everton get 𧺝M boost as Farhad Moshiri sale stance confirmed

When I first saw the headline, I thought Moshiri had stumbled across some loose change!!

I thought it was three other members of the FAB.

We will be there at the sold out Arsenal game.

And at Anfield to look Lucifer's children in the face in defiance.

They will will never take our dignity.

I think you're right, Jazz Bal was not among those who resigned.

However, I'm not sure if the club website has been updated to reflect this. It lists 9 members but I think there should be 10.

Where did you hear that? I messaged Jazz last night that I thought he did a good job with the interview. The questions they had related to different individuals so he covered those for the owner and I thought he was very candid.

But there were a lot of people on Twitter criticizing him for the interview. I assume they wanted him to get Moshiri in a headlock or something?

I couldn't blame him if he does resign as people criticize him for simply being the spokesperson asking the questions that fans wanted him to ask. But hopefully he doesn't as, while obviously FAB can't force change, he at least is a good spokesperson for the fans and is putting in the hours trying to engage.

Wasn't Dave Kelly (who is listed on the link) one of those who resigned the day of the Zoom call?

However, when they did meet with Thelwell back in October, these names were provided:

Fan Advisory Board: Jazz Bal, Hana Roks, Julie Clarke, Dave Kelly, Keith Done, Barry Williams, Julie Makin, Tony Whittaker, Helge Grunnevag, Richard Gillham, Tony Sampson

So Hana Roks and Barry Williams are no longer listed on the club or the FAB websites ... and Dave Kelly (he is most definitely still listed) would make 3 if he did in fact resign – that was not the impression I got, but I know he was pretty aggravated in that FAB Zoom call we were on!

Apologies, I foolishly followed a previous poster. No, Jazz did not resign, but he did not look happy in that interview.

Construction stopped at BMD
Jazz Bal resigned from FAB
Bielsa doesnt speak English
The Strategic Review did not take place
Everton are up for sale

My head is starting to spin...

You're right. It wasn't Dave Kelly that resigned. It was Steven Kelly who was vice chair of the Fans Forum.

Dave Kelly is still a member of the FAB. I saw him on the coach to West Ham on Saturday, and I also spoke to him.

It is now 9 members. Jazz Bal is still the Chair.

I think the other resignations were 2 members of the Everton Fans Forum. I could be corrected on that.

On their new website away from the official Club one, Link, 9 members are listed.

Agree with Michael that there was supposed to be 11.

The Football Supporters' Association affiliated groups were unable to put forward a nominee; however, the organisation will have representation on the Fan Advisory Board through Jazz Bal, Dave Kelly, Julie Makin and Tony Sampson, who are all active FSA members. FAB Election Results

Dave Kelly is still listed. What he did say on the Zoom call was that he was 100% against the Board. As did Julie Makin. This was in response to a question put specifically to Jazz on was he for/against the Board.

Where Jazz chose to not share his feelings, Dave and Julie cut right in with their unequivocal feelings against the Board.

Good. Because he certainly seems to understand the root of our problems.

Fair credit, he is responsive and he is taking his position with responsibility.

I just hope he and those afforded to opportunity can influence.

I've no idea how he can rate Kenwright, who is also delusional:– "When other clubs want to know what to do, they ask what Everton would do." Really? We are a laughing stock and he is a significant architect of that.

Denise Barrett-Baxendale seems totally out of her depth, suited to a CEO of a mid- to small-sized charity. Anyone who titles themselves 'Professor' on the back of an honorary degree from an ex-poly is the epitome of delusional. Still, she can at least count to 120. I wonder of she manages 150?

My hunch is that he sees the best way of extracting at least some of Usmanov's money is to have part or full control of the stadium and that is his primary focus. I doubt another penny will go into the footballing side.

I think it applies to owners and directors. Used to be 30% ownership but that might have changed. As it's possible to pass the test even if you've ordered the murder of a journalist, it's safe to say it's a box-ticking exercise. The bar is low, money being the balm for any unsavoury stuff that's uncovered.

Can't. . . . . stop. . . . . . fingers.

Must. . . . . Type. . . . . . . . Something. . . . . . ANYTHING

My head is also banging, so I've definitely picked the wrong time to get in the boss's bad books!!

At risk of spreading more fake news, Alan Myers on Twitter just claimed Moshiri held talks with a US firm this week about debt financing. He ties it to a minority stake. I would have thought debt financing was more a case of borrowing money as opposed to an equity stake?

The Athletic meanwhile Tweeted an hour ago that a firm with partial ownership stakes in other clubs and another sport are in talks to buy a stake. Another journo then quashed rumors that said firm was Red Bull.

Lastly, another journo has said Bielsa has agreed to join Everton but wants to wait until the summer Probably the last one is fake news. Not sure on the others but DBB said a month ago we'd have an announcement about two new sponsors related to the stadium in the next few weeks. I know Darren thinks "few" means a large number but to me, 4 weeks is the high end of a "few."

There was no indication, apart from dropping in the word 'existential' that he gets the seriousness of the situation (when was that interview done?) or that time is rapidly running out.

When he talks about football, it sounds like he is trying to recall what he was told on a trip around the training ground. He just doesn't convince or inspire.

We celebrating the Simpson's character today?

Although originally conceived as a one-dimensional, recurring villain who might occasionally enter the Simpsons' lives and wreak some sort of havoc, Mr Burns's popularity has led to his repeated inclusion in episodes. He is a stereotype of corporate America in his unquenchable desire to increase his own wealth and power, inability to remember his employees' names (including Homer's, despite frequent interactions — which has become a recurrent joke) and lack of concern for their safety and well-being.

Remind us of anybody?

Seriously, Paul, Happy Burns Night to you too.

What would Everton do!

Moshiri coming out yesterday made me think he his more desperate than ever to get rid of Everton, but I bet you many others thought he sounded genuine with his words?

We need to get a quality manager who knows how to improve the quality of the playing staff, whilst getting rid of the deadwood in the squad. We know who and they know who they are.

Is that the same deadwood we've been getting rid of and buying up again for the last 6 years?

While we're at it, we should buy some arl arse grocks in defence and play the kids as well.

Sorry for the sarcasm but, for fuck's sake, what a mess.

Everton is perhaps the oligarch's last foothold in this country, not including all those properties in London that Moshiri's sister apparently owns.

Riquelme was just spotted getting into a taxi holding "Director of Football For Dummies".

If you look at the comments on YouTube, there was a lot of support for Moshiri on giving the interview.

The whole thing is a mess, with no clear direction in sight.

The stadium ONLY has real value if it belongs to, and is used by EFC, who will have ~20 sell out attendances per season (whatever league we are in) for the next 50 years. With all the other event possibilities, the stadium is absolutely economically viable in the long run whether we are in the PL or not. Also absurd is the suggestion that LFC will somehow want to procure the new stadium. The current development at Anfield takes their capacity to 61,000 and keeps them at their spiritual home, plus further expansion is possible. Also, the vast majority of income comes from TV, so a 61,000 capacity is plenty. Why would they try and "capture" BMD which only has a 51,000 capacity? I can hardly see LFC fans wanting a failed EFC project either.

Who knows if FM really is trying to sell the club. If he is, then he must be some kind of total sociopath to categorically state in a TV interview that he isn't. It would also be ridiculously bad timing. Also, nobody is going to pay the supposed 𧺬m asking price whilst we are threatened with relegation. Trying to sell now only (if true) only destabilises the club further, and makes relegation even more likely, indeed practically a certainty. That is TERRIBLE business. His best strategy would have been to say NOTHING in this regard until our fate was known, and THEN make a move. How did this guy make so much money in other arenas? Avoiding relegation should be the priority now.

Jahm Najafi eyes Everton investment as Pheonix Suns sale in NBA to give windfall

In Premier League circles, Everton are known as one of its most dysfunctional clubs and at the centre of it all, aged 77 and in less than perfect health, is Kenwright.

Cult of Bill Kenwright

That has to be the first actual in depth media critique of Bill I've read and it reflects entirely what most of us think. "Arrogant" "egotistic" "center of attention" "cult of Bill" "Holding the club back." etc etc

The whole thing (as expected) seems toxic. Moshiri's source says he keeps Bill to deflect attention away from himself. Moshiri hires people then they find out there's a retroactive interview with DBB and Sharp? I wasn't surprised to see mention of a Koeman source talking about Bill and Mosh signing people they wanted.

How can he sit there and say that he listens to fans and takes them into account with decisions. Then appoints Allardyce and, if that wasn't bad enough, followed up with Benitez.

It's widely known that was his decision, against all of the board and a massive section of the fans!

Listens to and cares about us fans? In the words of Jim Royle My arse!! Next he'll have it written on the team bus – '𧸖M a week to the NHS!'

Frankly, I don't believe a word he says.