'Wantaway' Gordon no-shows at training amid Newcastle speculation

"Gordon is a moron, Gordon is a moron, Gordon is a moron"

He could turn out to be a great player but I somehow doubt it.

Rumours are that Obana is turning down offers to move because he wants to help Everton fight relegation. That's my type of player.

That is what worries me. Regardless of whether they rate him as a player, will Newcastle or anyone else be impressed by this? Will they drop their interest thinking he is a malcontent? Then he'll be stuck here sulking for 18 months. Like George Hirst

Can't shoot, no final ball in his locker and can't head the ball. And he's got the gall to act like he's the best thing since sliced bread.

He's one ugly arsed bleach haired tool. Hope he goes down the Jeffers path. Wanker.

Darren can go join him too.

Or he turns up for training, Tarkowski up-ends him and he gets injured and can't be transferred.

What version do you Anthony Gordon haters want? He trains and gets crocked? He stays away and gets sold?

It's not difficult.

There should be no place for overpriced prima donnas at the club. A few more with Onana's attitude would be useful.

Gordon is showing the club and more importantly the fans just how much he really cares about Everton.

Some fans have crossed the line and I don't blame this kid for wanting out.

If you do manage to track him down, can you run him up to Newcastle sharpish!!!

Why not wait for Leighton to announce "Gordon is AWOL" before getting the pitchforks out.? Deary me lads, chill out. Talk about jumping to conclusions.

A couple of bad scals hurled abuse at him, it's not like 38,000 of us chased him down County Road with pitchforks.

Don't blame the fans for this. We're the ones who were singing his name last season. If he thinks he won't get stick from the fat-bellied Geordies if he under-performs, then he's in for a massive shock.

The timing and no response suggests he is not at all embarrassed to make his exit in this way – which makes it worse for all involved.

He trained all last week without a problem. If he wants to leave, he should show up at Finch Farm and sit down like an adult (which he is) and give Thelwell a written transfer request.

If he's wanting to add a hard-working speedster who could get Howe a goal or two, Gordon is a pretty good choice.

Despite concerted media efforts for years to paint the average adult male of the species as a feckless, emotional weed, you'd go a long way to find a man that would genuinely be bothered by that to any degree IMO.

So no, I don't think most of us would be off.

That makes a mockery of those (me very much included) who thought that Howe was a poor defensive coach. For that matter, I also thought Ten Hag would be a delicate technical coach only.

Might also be some hope in that for us.

Strange because I could have sworn he made the foul against Southampton on 14 January that led to a goal.

He last started a game against Wolves on Boxing Day.

The best description is 'headless chicken', lots of energy and enthusiasm but brain-dead as a footballer.

If anyone is daft enough to offer anything near 㿔M ,then snap their hands off. Can't shoot, pass or head a ball. Lots of pace but precious little end product.

For the record, 3 of his goals last season should have been awarded to Richarlison.

Yes, I think he belongs in the same category as Jeffers and Barkley, but I think there are others in there too... Rodwell and Calvert-Lewin spring to mind.

Ah, I've been given duff information. I knew he'd come on as sub, but the report I was reading said he had't been picked since before the World Cup.

Is that what "the media" says? Funny, I watch "the media" all the time, and I've never seen that. Is it a GB News thing? Are they telling you that's what the other media is telling everyone?

Here's the thing, leaving because you don't like abuse isn't unmasculine. Though, staying and putting up with it just shows you're a beat dog.

And don't give me any of that "man-up" shite, if you were getting chased down the street outside your work by some feral morons, and someone offered you the chance to work somewhere else for better money, you'd be off.

Gordon has been at Everton for 11 years and the club are going to make an absolute fortune so this probably justifies why Everton have got an academy.

Gordon not turning up to training is both unprofessional and disrespectful; if you want to blame a kid for his behavior, then that's fine.

I've had enough of Everton not being a hard-nosed professional football club and I can't wait until the day this changes.

Thanks for the money we are about to receive, Anthony, especially if it gives us a fighting chance of survival.

He shrugged it off, scored two precious goals to be our early season top scorer. He continued to play well in games including the draw against Liverpool. After serving a suspension, he re-established himself as top scorer, against Palace, 3 months ago!!!. We've played 9 Premier League games since then. In that 9-game period, he has suffered illness, injury and loss of form.

So what changed? What made the kid who was so instrumental in our survival, become such a hate figure? Oh yeah I just remembered.

The Sun... The fucking Sun. That paper which is so reviled in this city published a story saying his agent demanded 𧴜k a week. No source, no evidence and, more to the point, absolutely no quote from the kid.

Weeks have passed and still nobody has heard a word from Gordon... That makes no never minds to the haters. He's a "Greedy bastard". "Nowhere near as good as he thinks he is"... "A jumped up little gobshite", "Acts like he is the best thing since sliced bread"..."He's an overpriced prima donna"

The cunt only got chased by "a couple of scallies" – That's so fucking nasty it's comical.

The best thing about this thread is people needing an explanation for his reluctance to come back... That's comical too.

According to Dean Williams, he can't shoot. Has no final ball in his locker, can't head a ball and, to top it all off, he's an ugly fucker anyway... Why should we expect any sort of fee for someone so fucking crap?

Another boy's Everton career ruined by the haters. Another boy driven from the club. Another boy going for a cut price...

But hey! The kid who did so much to keep us up last season is shite anyway... So what do we care? That's a massive 㾶k a week of the multi-million pound wage bill.

Let's just hope those Geordie fuckers don't charge us too much to take this evil fucker off our hands.

Yes, the real fans, not a couple of knobheads who chased his car hurling abuse.

And as for all that stuff about The Sun, nobody on here, or at Goodison, or anywhere in Liverpool reads that rag.

Please tell me in what other profession is that acceptable?
For people to say he should just accept it, they are just plain wrong.

I would love Anthony Gordon to stay but we may need the money.

Nobody is saying it's acceptable, but in what other profession would it be acceptable to take it out on all your co-workers, your customers, your boss, and everyone else who relies on you?

I once got "held up" outside the arcade next to Crown opposite Lime Street. He took 50 pence off me and we went our ways. I carried on and went to Goodison.

I'm not condoning the behaviour, but that won't be his reason for wanting to leave if indeed he does want to. It hopefully is for football reasons. Who can blame him?

I couldn't wait to go to West Ham Tony and ended up with a long journey home feeling sorry for myself. I can't help myself.

But I agree with you. As long as we profit and reinvest then this could be a good move for the player and the club.

{any other teams fan} "So why did you sell Gordon on the cheap?"

{Everton fan} "Cos he couldn't sustain his level of performance every game at the age of 21."

"Doesn't every young player go through inconsistent periods?"

"Yes, but he's an academy player."

"What does that matter?"

"Well, if we'd spent 㿀M on him, then we'd give him the benefit of the doubt…"

"That doesn't make any sense."

"Look, he's proved he's not world class in every game so we got shut. We can easily find a seasoned 29-year-old with no resale value on massive wages for the same price."

"Isn't that what got you into this mess in the first place?"

"Yeah, but this time it will be different. Anyway, we've got a new kid coming through who looks promising for the U18s, he's definitely going to be a world class player and won't need any period of time to bed in. Better be quick though, he's 19 in 3 months and if he's not a first-team regular by then, we might as well let him go…"

Go easy on him even though he has been unprofessional staying away. The amateurs running this club have hindered his development.

The fact that we are going to make 㿅-30M because of his efforts coming through at Everton – not just recent efforts but for years, often in turgid circumstances – is money that is going to help the club try to strengthen.

I am sad he is going, and I am sad he's not an exciting part of a better Everton team, but when he's gone that's it, it's only Everton that matters.

Hopefully Stan Mills will now have a better shot at breaking through in a year or two. Possibly a better player.

Not being funny, lad, but you desert the club more than he does. You only show up when we are losing. "Walking out" when the club is in the shit?

I'm trying to decide what was the biggest factor in us staying up last season. Gordon's sweat and graft... Or your relentless predictions of imminent doom... It's a really tough call.

I have to laugh when I see mealy-mouthed comments about him leaving because of a couple of fans chasing him... Talk about missing the point.

This has been a long an concerted hate campaign. Ever since it was reported that his agent was going for top dollar... You don't even have to leave this thread to see that. If that isn't enough, you will find plenty more haters all over social media.

Scream the house down all you like, but Anthony Gordon is reacting in a way most young scousers would do. He is showing the haters about as much respect as they have shown him.

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You can join the army in the UK at 16 years of age and guess what the army chaps face much greater danger than three scallies swearing at their car as they drive by.

The behavior of those fans was disgraceful but acting like Anthony is a 5-year-old who was chased by the violent mob from Frankenstein movies is ridiculous.

He is unprofessional for not showing up to work. If he wants to leave, fair enough – but be an adult about it.

There have been no end of mercenary wasters at this club who have each cost the club 㿅-30M in losses and have bled the club dry. These are the ones who deserve the biggest criticism.

Spot on, we'll said.

Too many haters on here and then surprised when there's a reaction.

21-year-old professional footballers usually look the picture of health but Anthony looked tired, very pale, and gaunt. He's obviously under a lot of pressure right now, but staying away from training, cannot be helping the situation, and sometimes I worry about how these young footballers are being advised.

Everton badly need money and Anthony is going to make himself an absolute fortune but so will his agent who I personally don't think is doing a good job if his client isn't turning up for training. This could do Gordon a lot of long-term damage, both professionally and also in the city of Liverpool, in the future. This is not a good move, imo.

Who was the last real product of the Everton Academy who left our club and truly excelled? Only Rooney, but he had a god-given talent. I can't think of another off the top of my head.

"Christine Foster

If true, I think he will be gone in January for around 㿔 million if that. Whilst he has talent, he flatters to deceive as yet and, until his performances bring the consistency of goals taken or created, then he is a victim of his own hype.

Simply put, he isn't good enough, yet. He might raise his game but right now he is not adding the quality we need, nor is he at the top of his game. His contract should be filled with bonus clauses dependent on performance. You think you're worth 𧴜k? Prove it."

Also post 57 was when Darren was Dave:

https://www.toffeeweb.com/season/22-23/rumour-mill/42740.html#1288511

File under Danjuma.

What happens if Newcastle pull out and don't want him? Are we all supposed to say the old "Oh well he's a blue, one of us welcome back"?

Enjoy the subs bench with the Geordies, lad; they already have better players in the wide positions.

Do you want to stay? If yes, then come back, train and give your heart and soul to Everton. If no, then sod off. I have no further interest in you. Whatever you do or don't do in your career after Everton, I won't be interested.

The same applies to every single player at the club. If you don't love Everton, go and go now.

I was born in August 1954 so for all of my life we have been in the top flight. No other team apart from Arsenal have done that. The 18 other Premier League teams have all been promoted since then.

I have not given up and won't until it happens but if we get relegated we will come back. My dad saw them relegated and promoted again. If we do go down, we can all watch them come back up again. It's not the end of the world.

We are always losing. I'm on the Live Forum when we win and always post a comment of support in the thread.

Anyway, not sure why I'm living rent free in your head. There is more to worry about than my views on a treacherous little rat who is walking out on his boyhood club in its hour of need.

As far as I'm aware it's been reported by the media and that's it. Now call me cynical but the media do have a little history in, how can I put it, spouting absolute shite!

Innocent until proven guilty, anyone?

That said, if the reports of missing training etc. are true, that does not sit well at all. I take Darren's point, but even if you argue it's unsurprising he wants to leave, there are ways of doing things.

His employers, and his boyhood team, are in the shit just now. Not training is unprofessional to say the least, and surely doesn't affect whether the move will happen or not?

If his agent has Antony's interest at heart, he would be advising him to turn up to training and act professionally. Leave on good terms with the club and move on if a deal can be agreed.

The agent has advised him to stay away, force the move but not ask for a transfer as he would receive less of a cut of the transfer. The whole thing stinks.

Chelsea and Newcastle will be looking at his behaviour and thinking about his character. I wouldn't be surprised if both clubs got cold feet.

Can someone please name me a football club with fans that don't give stick to players?

If he goes to Newcastle, he's going to competing with Wilson, Isak Almiron and Saint-Maximin and Willock for a start. Good luck with that one.

I'd say you know the same as me, which is fuck-all. Didn't stop you posting that vile little comment @45. The sort of comment that, if directed at you would have you running off to check the posting guidelines and go crying to the moderators.

By the way, that "rent free in your head" catch phrase that you dug up from somewhere is as worn out as your relentless bitching about our club.

Your name on a thread is like a skull and crossbones and I will pay heed and beware from now on.

We should have sold him back in the summer for 㾶-15M more.

Less of a cut of the transfer, has Gordon got this in his contract?

The club are selling him.

Alan Ball didn't want to leave.

Gordon may become a good player. He may become an England international. For now, as was the case in the summer, we must surely be able to buy a better player (or two) for 㿊-40M.

Any deal will also have add-on clauses for if he does mature into a superstar. But we need goal scorers and fighters, and we need them now. Why are the club not cashing in? Why did they turn down daft money in the summer?

There is every danger that Gordon will become our Hudson-Odoi. Flavour of the month 2 years ago; can't get arrested now. But, even if he is the real deal, he isn't that yet. And it is now we need to perform.

On the issue of him being abused by some 'fans'. All the current squad, with the exception of Pickford, can expect disgruntled fans, who spend a large percentage of their expendable income to watch football, to be angry and frustrated. This may turn into verbal abuse. For 㿞k a week, you can shout at me all day and all night. (Physical violence is totally unacceptable.)

As for missing training. Going on strike in any other occupation. It is not something that happens often. But nobody was complaining in the summer when Mohammed Kudus tried the same tactic to force a move from his current club to… (where was it again?).

It's beginning to look like Arteta all over again…

I'm not getting carried away. It is what it is and I don't know what is happening or has been happening since the supposed Chelsea interest rumours first appeared. Now Newcastle's interest.

The lad is panicking that his big chance may be slipping away and acting like a scared 21-year-old, maybe with a touch of greedy agent's influence. Who knows?

I hope it can be resolved and he gets his dream move and the club can use the cash to move forward. Nothing we haven't seen before.

Is it the club wanting to sell him to cash in?
Is Gordon pushing for a move?
Have the club told him to stay away from Finch Farm?
Who the fuck knows???

No matter what your opinion is, the fact is, he is an Everton player and should be on the training pitch unless he has been told otherwise. If it is his choice to stay away, then for me that is disrespecting Evertonians and his teammates.

We have paid way over the top for players and, if this move happens, let's get the best we can and then watch if Howe can make the likes of me go "Fuck's sake, why did we sell him???"

You are still missing the point... by a mile.

Read the concerted hate campaign all over social media. This is not criticism – it's outright abuse. Would you skip to work every day if you faced this abuse? Do you really think he cares about a couple of rag-arses chasing him?

Those thinking they are now giving him abuse because of the actions he has taken need to catch on to themselves... it's the other way round.

This was his dream job and, in true Everton fashion, he has had his dream destroyed by those he wanted to play for.

Why are the brave little soldiers who abuse him from behind their keyboards suddenly so concerned because he doesn't want to play for them anymore? They made it clear they didn't fucking want him anyway.

The media thing might be considered subtle to some but it's there to be seen very easily with a little concentration. The GB News as a synonym for tin foil hat there? Nice.

The masculinity/man-up stuff illustrates what I said (just need toxic to complete). It's about the fact that most ordinary young men don't fall to pieces over one minor incident (got, not getting) when they're also inside a car.

I'd be off? No, I'd take it for what it was, then change my plans to try and avoid the very rare occasion that it may happen again, and carry on. Changing club would be about different factors.

Line up 1 (4-3-3): Pickford, Coleman, Mina, Coady, Mykolenko; Onana, New Midfielder, Doucoure (Iwobi); Ziyech, Fullkrug and Arnautovic.

Line up 2 (4-4-2): Pickford; Coleman, Mina, Coady, Mykolenko; Ziyech, Onana, New Midfielder, Arnautovic; Calvert-Lewin and Fullkrug.

I suspect Chelsea and Newcastle will be looking at what's happening and be thinking they can get a better deal out of this.

A "concerted hate campaign"? Can you provide evidence of this campaign to show that it's different than the abuse any other person gets on social media?

For example, the relentless campaign you directed at Carlo on ToffeeWeb for 18 months.

Also, what's more "keyboard warrior" and "cowardly" than using multiple names on a fan site and never daring to show your face to anyone involved in public? Pot, Kettle…

See if you can work out the difference between criticising a vastly experienced manager earning 12m a year to make decisions and abusing 21 year old kid who lives with those decisions.

I have only ever posted under this (my) name. I know dozens of people who post on here and they know me. You just don't know I know them...Despite your relentless profiling.

This isn't about manning-up, it's about idiots not being able to control their emotions. You might want to live in a world where people are free to abuse others, but most of don't think that way. I wouldn't put up with it because of self-respect, not because I've been magically feminized by "the media".

What a profile you drew up about him after one single post

I guess I get a bit confused being a fork lift driver who hates my boss

Probably the potential of playing for one of the properly funded clubs, Chelsea, has festered and he isn't going to let the opportunity pass again.

I disagree with people playing down the car ambush if he was wavering I bet 100yds down the road he was on his speakerphone shouting to his agent "get me the fuck out of here"

of course I don't desire a world of rampant abuse. One incident where some clowns chased a car down a road, which perhaps would've ended in no more than what happened when Yerry Mina got out of his car - who knows.

I don't know he's fallen to pieces, that was obviously a sarcastic suggestion making a point.

Simply, I think there's no need to overreact to something that most ordinary people in the same circumstance would brush off - IMO.

I'm intrigued at how the uncontrollable actions of some random idiots could affect your own self respect though. Guess I'm old fashioned.

Simple as that Barry.

Cracking thread BTW

And yes that was a brilliant John Mac Sr sighting!

Some people are more thick skinned than others. You may well have a point. Gordon may well have had his head turned, but I think the interest shown by wealthy clubs has given him a freedom to just say "Fuck this. I don't need it. I've got better options elsewhere"

Do I think he would be staying at the club if it wasnt for newspaper reports ?. Absolutely. He was happy here before the contract "claims" turned so many fans against him.

While people are on here are saying he is absolutely shite. wealthy clubs are chasing him. I keep hearing people say he needs to knuckle down, but he has a choice here. become a multi millionaire overnight whilst giving himself the chance to win stuff.... or stay here and listen to the shite he`s getting now.

Must be a terrible dilemma for him

I think he is on £10k a week. I'd fine him for the absences, fine him more if he continues, and tell him he can sit it out in the stands until someone matches our valuation. The wages won't kill us and there is a matter of principle here. Then he can figure out how much left that club has in the kitty after meeting our valuation, to pay him and his agent and decide whether it's enough to go or stay. It works that way round...

I'm stunned at some of the prospective fees for him cited in the media.

Has the world gone even madder than when we signed Claus Thomsen?

You bet it has!

Gordon has really gone down in my estimation. It is widely reported that he has asked to leave.

Andy Crooks said my posts should come with skull and crossbones. That's appropriate as the club is a Pirate ship heading for the rocks.

The 10% man, is going to make a fucking fortune, because he has helped persuade his client, the boy with the talent, that he's better off elsewhere.

I also believe that Everton need to sell Gordon, so this should have been dealt with a lot better. I got in on very good authority that Gordon didn't want to play on Saturday. Very sad.

He earns 10k a week

Anyway Axe and Smash are both on now. I leave them to rack their brains as to why so many top clubs want to pay top dollar for a fella who is so crap

I'll log back in tomorrow. to see if the penny dropped..

It could happen !

The problem here is that the player and agent are, if reports are correct, basically setting this up to take a bigger share of the money, and the club a lot less, at a time when we need that money.

Can we really not play hardball? More of the money has to come to us, less to him. He's just one individual. Yes, we'd like the money but not cut price because the player and agent are shafting us.

Our management are utterly hopeless but they get a thumbs up from me if they play this hard. If he goes, he goes on our terms not his. Otherwise he can warm the bench and disappear from view if that it what he chooses...

I agree with you when you say that "It may be too idealist and romantic, to expect today's players to show loyalty to their clubs."

I've have been frowned on this site when I reveal my age, so I'll say that along with Dave Abrahams and one or two others, I can recall when the record transfer fee was that of Jackie Sewell, who moved from Notts County to Sheffield Wednesday for 㿎,500.

I believe that Everton players were on 㾼 a week during the season, and 㾸 a week during the close season, at that time the maximum wage was 㿀 a week. I can't recall anyone who was on that figure.

I liken today's players to yesterday's film stars, but I'm programmed to attend games at Goodison irrespective of the circumstances, and I'm hoping that I will be in attendance at the new Everton Stadium on Bramley-Moore Dock.

I said earlier Anthony is not a child, has an agent, he's letting himself down, his team mates, his club and the real fans. The fans at any game never turned on Gordon.

Ross Barkley was a scapegoat for Koeman, the fans actually abused him at games, but he never stopped playing, always showed for the ball, often brought off to boos, but never stopped training or playing for his club.

Last week he was writing that it all started to go wrong under Carlo but within a day or two he re-entered the real world the rest of us occupy and (just as I have done, for yonks in agreement with him - which he insists he disputes) reverted to blaming Kenwright for our decades-long decline.

Always though he heaps praise on Kenwright appointed former Everton players coaching at FF and EVERY player who's ever been under their "development".

Rooney aside, name any FF "developed" player this century who went on to trophy-winning success anywhere, or notable premier league employment?

There's been none.

But schitzo Dazza still screams the opposite and personally derides any Toffee of different opinion - as amusingly as ever.

Can't help but wonder how different things might be if he'd taken either of his chances in the first half of the Wolves match. For him, for Lampard, for all of us. But converting chances has never really been a strong point for him to date.

I have blanked Axe and Smash (Alexndre and Kinsella) the TW tag team for years on this site.

Why ?

Take a look for yourself. You wont have to leave this thread...They don't come on to talk about footy. they only come on to talk about me.

I sometimes throw them a bone, its gets them all excited

Watch

And better for the Club to cash in now than have a fire sale if we get relegated.

I don't share your opinion or anyone else who agrees with you (only one hand'll be necessary to count them, mind - but one hand stimulation is obviously your nirvana) that Gordon is worth anything like £50mill or tens of £millions at all.

I said so in my post you so much now deride, as anyone devoid of personality disorder can see.

You, as ever, (uniquely on TW) choose to occupy your very own antagonistic-to-fellow-Toffees bird-brain perch though, regardless of subject.

Fly on mate!

So my plan would be flog Pickford for a few pacey backs from St Helens, Wakefield or Widnes etc?

Now that would be entertaining and would certainly improve our tackling.

Clueless bar stools.

Although I don't condone the behaviour of the minority towards Gordon, I also can't excuse his actions which reveal a lack of character and do not bode well for his future, wherever that may be. (Rocky: "It isn't about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can be hit and keep moving forward")

As for the rest of the team they could do with pinning a quote from the great Yankees baseball player Joe DiMaggio up on the dressing room wall and following his advice:
"I always thought there was at least one person in the stands who had never seen me play and I didn't want to let them down"

I truly believe this season will be the first time in my lifetime that we will be relegated as we now truly look lost,disunited and lacking heart for the fight ahead. However for all the doom and gloom that relegation will entail I will try to remember that it get's darkest before the dawn.

Blue as ever
NSNO

I talk about all kinds of stuff on here peacefully with all kinds of people. Sorry you're so self absorbed you only read the posts when I respond to you making reference to me or sharing usually angrily voiced views I disagree with under one of your various guises. Your short lived alter ego Dave Cashen debuted by saying Danny and I were in the Lonely Hearts Club for posting too much and that was during your apparent absence from the site. Then you reappeared and used the exact same terminology to say the same. Lol

Serious question. What does being an Everton supporter entail in your view? You slag off the owner. The Chairman. Every manager we have had since you joined this site. You say the fans "get what we deserve." You slag off any foreign or expensive signings we have had from other clubs. Your support only seems to extend to a few academy players or players who were bought but never really played in the academy as such (DCL/Holgate) but that you view as homegrown and to Duncan Ferguson. You've done nothing but complain about every other person associated with this club. You even previously admitted supporting pillow throwing to get rid of Kendall, and said that you didn't like Alan Harper because he was "a red." So to my mind, you have a very minimalist view of what Everton is and it doesn't include the vast majority of what most people perceive as Evertonians.

I believe both Everton and Gordon are on the same page rather than he going on strike against club wishes. Ultimately he's one of the few players we can get decent cash for. But he's being over priced by his agent in terms of salary demands.

Gordon has great pace, that will always be a massive asset for any player and team. He's still a rough diamond and his development hindered by Everton being the circus it is. He's got a lot of positives and potential and an attack minded team and manager like Newcastle have will be good for him.

Seasond professionals melt in the Goodison spotlight. The youngsters havn't been given good, consistent coaching or guidance because of the merry-go-round.

It's a repeat of 20 years ago, only this time we have money but are not 'allowed' to spend it. Our timing amongst other things is awful.

If he goes, thanks. If he stays, great. Ultimately one player doesn't make a team.

They know doing this will cause murder.

So operation turn the fans against said player starts. "Club sources" leak stories about him wanting out, not reporting to training etc. Fans turn against said player.

The club all along are trying to sell him and he'll probably be sold at the last minute on deadline day. We then will complete signings we had lined up that we couldn't complete until the a money was banked from sale.

This time the club has the extra Brucie Bonus of being able to blame the few kids that chased him as the reason he wanted out, despite Lampard saying he'd spoken to player and he was ok.

This whole saga is exactly what we always do. The truth eventually comes out like it did with Speed Rooney etc

John@134, nothing is off the table, with regards this current saga, but I can't see Everton, telling Gordon to stay away, because it would only drive the price down imo. Then again, nothing surprises me about Everton, who are now getting called the most dysfunctional club in the country, for a big reason.

I'm not sure I need to say anything at all. You can get my view on everything and everything just by reading what These two are saying. They put together such accurate detailed profile...

One of them thinks everyone who disagrees with him, is me - I've got six season tickets. The other comes on often when I post Just hurl his insults and pretend to disagree. He doesnt even know what he disagrees with this time. Apparently put a value on Gordon ????

As you can see both men introduce me to THEIR thread - Yet again, Despite the fact That I have never tried to engage either of them in all these years. Keiran`s post about a boxer (several of them) is in reference to something I posted about Kirkland Lang....years ago.

I thought I was being bombarded on this site for a while, but no. Its just these two.

Another thread been ruined by people having to read about what these two imagine goes on in my life. I feel embarrassed.

I come on here to talk about footy. I will continue to blank those who don't.

I just hope he does what is best for him as a player and that the club do what is best for them. And that is whether he stays or goes.

More importantly, great to have you back John Senior. We are going to Bramley Moore and I'm buying the Guinness. I don't even drink it and I don't care what the doctor says!

Good to get back to the footy.

He does. He is still on his apprentice wage. He will be a multi millionaire. He can have any car he wants

The money in football is absolutely obscene nowadays, but it's the world game, and modern day footballers, are the proper superstars now, because of the saturation levels, television now provides worldwide, to the so called beautiful game.

That was weeks ago. He hasnt even said why he isn't training now. Nobody has. If he is doing it to agitate for a move it would be more about wanting out than anything a couple of Scallies did.

BTW. if you think Gordon is not getting stick then you are going to a different ground than me. He was even booed on recently. As for the comparison with Barkley. There may well be one. Perhaps they are both showing their abusers the same finger.

He never got far, and the abuse he received shouldn't have happened, but a boyhood scouser from Walton, should know the rules (IMO) and Anthony Gordon should have spoken to those kids instead of driving away, because there is absolutely no way, he would have been under any kind of physical threat, again imo.

Maybe Anthony was scared because of the untruths perpetrated by Everton, to explain why their board of directors, didn't have to turn up at Goodison, and face the music, but if he was initially scared, I doubt he wouldn't have been laughing at those kids before he tried to drive away.

Before Benitez came and told Gordon, he couldn't last a full 90 minutes, then the kid was doing nothing, now we need him gone because we are absolutely fucking skint, and need to sign some players, who have got to be 100% up for the fight.

Barkley has got a couple of medals, made himself millions, but I've never felt he has been missed at Everton, whilst obviously being aware that not everyone will see it this way.

My understanding of the transfer situation is this, with apologies if I am wrong.

If a club sells a player, the player and his agent take a cut of the fee.

If a player asks for a transfer, this cut is taken away.

Gordon has made it clear he want to move on but stops short of slapping a transfer request in. Making his intentions clear flags up to clubs he is available so they hold all the aces from a negotiation point of view. If the transfer request comes in, Everton could just sit tight, say no or slap the fee they want from the sale and let it run from there.

Gordon is a saleable asset, nothing more. I wish I had his agent talking up my salary, £10k to £100k! That simply smacks of greed and an over inflated view of his value to the club.

He is, by not training, in breach of his contract. Someone at the club needs to deal with that, fine him and stick him with the under 21s. Taking him ‘out of the shop window' may give him and his agent something to ponder. As things stand, any sale will bring an outpouring of bile should he ever play at Everton again. Remember Sir Alex resting Rooney from a fixture at Goodison to protect him?

But it needs to be pointed out that Carlo sent AG out on loan. When he came back to the fold Benitez said he was desperately unfit.

Benitez was very fulsome in his praise for AG when he was asked to knuckle down and get fit. He praised his attitude.

Does the club keep tabs on our players once they have sent them out to be looked after by other clubs ?

According to Rafa. Gordon "couldnt even run"

Yet he's been poor for us this season, has been lambasted in person by fans and is set to leave the club. For me this turn of events is more indicative of how badly the club has been managed both on and off the pitch for the last decade than Anthony Gordon's character. Whilst I would never condone missing training to force a move (if that's the truth) he has been failed by the club just as much as we have.

If we can get 㿔m+ for him I think it's potentially a deal that suits everyone.

It was unpleasant, but Anthony would have been better getting out and speaking to the fans. Especially as he is a local lad, I'm surprised he didn't. Especially when you consider big Yerry did.

One thing in the back of my head; the players arrive on a coach yet drive home???

I can understand the frustrations of the supporters. Especially the young ones. I see them when I attend. The passion in them is what drives that fantastic support we take into stadia around the country. Selling out within a day of tickets going online despite the predicament of the past few years.

We will never let go of that passion and commitment, as Harry Catterick found out when he dropped Alex Young and we were howling for Howard to go. We always let this club and the players know when the standards aren't good enough. If they don't like it, then they can go, because we will always be here and won't accept it and let them have it when they don't perform.

As much as we will adore them when they give us joy.

They can't have it both ways.

The situation boiled over in frustration. I can understand that and fortunately no harm was done. I don't believe for one minute there was intent. Young lads voicing opinion from what I've seen.

Had it been me, I'd have stopped, got out the car and spoke to the supporters. But then I'm not fortunate enough to play for Everton.

I'm glad it's the weekend. I'm just disappointed there is no Everton to watch.

As for his football, if we could get £30-40 million for him, then that would help us get a goalscorer and maybe a creatorscorer like Mahrez.

The guy from Sky Sports News set up outside Finch Farm confirmed Gordon was in this morning, might just be picking up his boots though...

Badly advised by his agent if he was told missing training was the right tactic to leverage a move.

I think that, just after the end of the Hitler war, the players' wages were 㾸 during the season and 㾶 off-season. On top of this, I recall that the players were paid an extra ١ for a win and ٠ for a draw. At the same period, Liverpool paid 㾸,000 or so for Albert Stubbins. How things have changed!

Newcastle will probably pay us the 㿙m over 45 years with no interest.

The first time I've ever read in the mainstream media criticism of him and repeats what many of us have said on here for years.

Let's keep the pressure up!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11683823/amp/THE-CULT-BILL-Kenwright-cut-ties-Everton-wields-huge-power.html

Separately, 21 YO Caicedo of Brighton not budgeting for £60m so why should we accept less for Gordon?

That represents good business as long as it's not as Colin suggests payable over 45 years at 0% interest. In terms of his actual stats he's similar to Jordan Ibe, Solanke etc went for 20 or 30 million from the RS. The key thing now is not to waste that money on an injury prone flash harry who wants 100k a week.

A very promising young player, playing in a team with little pace or movement, in a basket case of a club in a downward spiral. Guess what? He wants to move to a better club to further his career.

That's it folks. When you get a good player and you don't improve the team around him, he'll look to leave. Happened with Arteta, Lukaku, Stones and many more in my lifetime.

He'll leave with my best wishes.

I'd have more confidence in Dyche spending the money than our previous few managers and DoFs.

His attitude after what happened following the last game at Goodison should have been 'I'll show them how good I am and how much I want to fight for this team.'

40m (if true) is a great deal for us in my opinion, particularly for a player who has acted in the unprofessional way he has by not turning up for training.