Dyche announced as the next Everton manager

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With apparent favourite Marcleo Bielsa reportedly turning down the opportunity, Everton have finally confirmed former Watford and Burnley boss Sean Dyche as Frank Lampard's replacement.

The 51-year-old signed a 2 1/2-year deal and brings former Everton youth player Ian Woan in as his Assistant Manager, ex-England international Steve Stone as First-Team Coach, and Mark Howard to provide additional sports science expertise.

Dyche has been out of work since leaving Turf Moor last April after a decade in charge of the Clarets during which time he led them to European qualification in 2017-18 but was ultimately dismissed by Burnley's new owners with the club heading for the Championship.

Burnley, under Dyche's long-term replacement, Vincent Kompany, are the runaway leaders of the second tier and are on course to return to the top flight whereas Everton's new boss has been charged with making sure the Blues don't pass them on the way down.

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Dyche takes over with Everton on a run of just one win in 14 games and joint-bottom of the Premier League and faces a baptism of fire with clashes against leaders Arsenal and local rivals Liverpool in his first two matches.

Bielsa was widely believed to have been the first choice of majority shareholder, Farhad Moshiri, and flew in from Brazil yesterday to hold talks in London. According to Paul Joyce in The Times, however, the eccentric Argentine had signalled his desire to take over in the summer rather than straight away.

The former Leeds United manager is famous for preferring to take new jobs in the summer so that he gets the benefit of a full pre-season to bed in his methods and playing style. Joyce's report claims that Bielsa said he needed seven weeks and proposed that he and his eight-person support staff take charge of the Under-21s for the remainder of the season and then become first-team head coach at the end of the season.

That plan was deemed unworkable, leaving Moshiri and the Board of Directors to turn to Dyche as the alternative, a safe pair of hands to hopefully guide the team to safety over the remaining 18 games of the season. Links with Davide Ancelotti and West Brom boss Carlos Corberán came to nothing.

“It’s an honour to become Everton manager. My staff and I are ready and eager to help get this great club back on track," Dyche said upon joining Everton.

“I know about Everton’s passionate fanbase and how precious this club is to them. We’re ready to work and ready to give them what they want. That starts with sweat on the shirt, effort and getting back to some of the basic principles of what Everton Football Club has stood for for a long time.

“We want to bring back a good feeling. We need the fans, we need unity and we need everyone aligned. That starts with us as staff and players.

“Our aim is to put out a team that works, that fights and wears the badge with pride. The connection with the fans can then grow very quickly because they’re so passionate.



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Anthony A Hughes
1 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:14:43
I'm a little under whelmed if it is Dyche but then he appears on paper to be the safe option and the one thing we need at the moment is stability.

Julian Exshaw
2 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:24:15
Give Dyche the job then till June. If he keeps us up, offer him a longer contract. Simple!
Joe McMahon
3 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:24:24
But does Sean Dyche "Get Everton"?

I think he will, but hopefully won't listen to Kenwright's tales from a bygone age, that's not relevant to anything in the 21st Century.

Just read Frank's message, it didn't work out but he's a likeable man with no bitterness.

Ian Bennett
4 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:24:40
McNeil captain, Michael Keane vice captain???
Michael Lynch
5 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:37:16
There clearly is no plan, we're just being run manager to manager, year by year until something, somehow clicks for a season or two.

That being the case, Dyche is no surprise, but nor would Bielsa have been a surprise. I think Steve Ferns is probably right that we wouldn't meet his demands (although I would guess it's more a case of couldn't than wouldn't) and, as Sam H points out, he invariably has a full pre-season with a club when he takes over.

I hope Dyche can keep us up or, failing that, manages to put together a plan that the board can get behind to see us promoted in our first season in the Championship. If we can kick off in the Premier League in the new Everton Stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock, I'll be delighted.

Steve Brown
6 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:37:27
Apparently, Dyche signed his contract and resignation letter at the same time!

Good luck to him, as we desperately need him to succeed in the short-term. All fans should get behind him and I’m sure they will.

He will probably be interviewed in TalkSport 5 hours before his appointment is announced on the club’s website.

Pete Clarke
7 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:38:23
First and only question to Dyche from one of our great board members:

“Can you bring us back up, Sean?”

He’s only getting the job because the club is run by a gang of absolute tossers and nobody else wants to know us. Why would they?

But hey, Bill is a lovely and well-respected man in football.

Can we just fold and start again as St Domingo Vale?

Raymond Fox
8 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:39:07
I'm happy with Dyche, the clever managers play to their players strengths. No wisecracks that our players have no strengths please!

Trying to play Man City and Arsenal type football without the right players is asking to get beat.

Dyche has had to manage with ordinary players who are not the best and proved he is adaptable to what he's got. Also, I think his no-nonsense up-beat personality is one of his strongest points; I don't see any downsides to him myself.

He'll have to perform a minor miracle this season to keep us up though, what we are facing now as a club is the biggest crisis for donkey's years.

Barry Cowling
9 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:39:53
It looks like it's going to be Dyche and, if so, then common sense has prevailed.

Or we just could not afford Bielsa and his team; in that case, I think we have dodged a bullet.

Tony Hill
10 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:41:00
Pleased if it’s Dyche. Full support for him should be a given.
Tony Everan
11 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:42:12
Julian, exactly that. It's up to Dyche to prove he can take us further, by way of A, results and B, organisation on the pitch.

For the last few months no Everton player has remotely looked like they know what they are meant to be doing. Players will respond to clarity of direction, formation simplicity and knowing their roles.

Alec Gaston
12 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:44:50
If he is confirmed I am 100% behind him – he is our manager and deserves our support to turn things around.
Danny O’Neill
13 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:51:04
God knows what is going to happen, but if the rumours are to be believed, we are turning into Burnley.

Fucking Burnley (sorry John Senior).

We are Everton for fuck's sake. Sorry again, I'm emotive.

Only days ago we were told the DoF would make the decision. Now either there was nothing left on the managerial supermarket shelves or this smacks of board and owner interference yet again and not allowing the DoF to be empowered to do his job.

When do we play Arsenal?

Brian Hennessy
14 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:56:31
Happy with this. He has a hell of a job on his hands but I think he gives us our best chance of staying in the Premier league. If we do go down, he has the ability to make our stay in the Championship a brief one.

It's all about survival as a football club until Moshiri, Billy the liar and our Board are replaced.

Sean Roe
15 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:58:06
Dyche out!!!

Just read he was a red shite fan!

James Marshall
16 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:58:42
Right appointment given the situation we have to face - I'm so glad it isn't Bielsa, and that coming from one of his disciples of how the game should be played. He would have been entirely wrong for us with the situation and the current squad - I actually said out loud, "thank God for that" when I read it was Dyche.

I'm not a huge fan of the football he plays, but I am an admirer of the man - he's also a good laugh in interviews and doesn't take any shit from anyone.

I still think we'll get relegated anyway, regardless.

Jason Hewly
17 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:58:47
That's us relegated.

No club of our stature would even consider this guy... except us.

For fuck's sake.

John Graham
18 Posted 27/01/2023 at 10:59:35
Not good enough to keep us up.

Poor style of football and struggled with Burnley even when he had a bit of money.

Championship here we come.

Mark Ryan
19 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:01:00
Good luck, Mr Dyche. A solid performer. He will expect 100% effort as a minimum standard. He speaks well. Is a tough cookie and is exactly what we need right here and right now.

Bielsa would not have the players he needed. He's not what we need right now. It would be as futile as him going to Forest Green Rovers. A waste of time.

Sean, get a striker in before Tuesday's deadline. UTFTs

Joe Corgan
20 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:01:00
It's not a bad appointment at all, given our unattractive position and the availability of managers.

Bielsa's methods would have taken too long to make a difference. Davide Ancelotti is untried at any level.

I'm just glad we didn't go and appoint someone who's never managed in the Premier League. History seems to indicate that clubs that go out and find foreign managers at the end of January tend to be relegated. Think Felix Magath or Pepe Mel.

It does tend to be the old guard that seems to keep teams up. Dyche will have a tremendously difficult job keeping us up but I feel that it's the right kind of appointment given our current situation.

Kevin Prytherch
21 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:02:36
We didn't turn into Blackburn when Kendall joined did we? Or Preston when Moyes joined, or Oldham when Royle joined, or even Madrid when Ancelotti joined. So why assume we will turn into Burnley now?

Also, do we know that Thelwell wanted someone else or is that just speculation?

James Byrne
22 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:03:31
Let's hope Dyche can work some magic into this piss-poor group of players.

I think a lot now depends on how the transfer window pans out; still a chance we could see Gordon go (he's bang average at this level anyway) and possibly Onana.

I am not confident we will stay up, I think the damage is too far gone at this club.

Sam Hoare
23 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:04:20
Bielsa wanted to only works with the U21s until July! Love the guy but he's a lunatic!! Not even Moshiri could have agreed to that.

Like I said earlier, Bielsa has never started coaching a first team mid-season. Timing was wrong.

Re Dyche, let's see if we can look beyond the stereotype. Many people (including myself) said that Howe would not be the best choice as his team conceded way too many goals and now he's managing the team with the tightest defense in the Premier League.

James Marshall
24 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:04:31
Sean Dyche back in October:

"What I've learned down the years is: why fight the box you're put in?

"4-4-2, pretty direct, defensive football. On the positive side, hard-working, strong team ethic, strong feel, good coach.

"I don't mind it being that. Whatever job I get, if I get one, I want the fans to know they've got a team that is going to give everything, that they've got a team that is going to work, the team is going to have a heart.

"That won't change – definitely not. What I do is look at the technical understanding of the team, the tactical understanding of the team, what their background is, where they've been and what has been their influences.

"You have to piece that together and start moulding that into a team. That's how I personally view how football should work within a team. If you get that right, the rest will work out for itself."

Christopher Timmins
25 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:04:56

I feel your pain and frustration, the DOF position at Everton is an absolute joke which of course is consistent with so many other aspects of how the club is being run.

Take some hope that, with Dyche in charge, we have a better chance of surviving than with Lampard. Take some hope that, with a bigger budget, he might acquire better quality players that will allow us to play in a more positive and attractive manner than was the case with his last club.

Without hope, we have nothing!

Geoff Lambert
26 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:05:00

You have got three days to give Everton a chance of staying in the Premier League, the most important 3 days in our recent history.

Get Gordon sold for £35 million and get in someone who can score and someone who can create.

Not too much to ask, is it???

Iain Johnston
27 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:05:04
And he knows how to get the best out of Keane and Tarkowski.
Frank Sheppard
28 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:05:54
Based on where we are now, and that we must be the worst-run club in England, and that now is not the time to be dewy-eyed about our history, this seems the best option and a good appointment to me.

Remember Kendall came to us from Preston… and Moyes came to us from Preston… it's short-sited to be dismissive of Burnley.

Good Luck, Sean.

Alan McGuffog
29 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:06:23
Jason... what stature would that be?

We will / may start moving forward when we all accept that we are a middling sort of club, albeit with a fine fanbase and history.

Jerome Feldman
30 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:07:21
Doesn't really make any sense. Burnley got rid of him cos they thought he was gonna take them down and we're appointing him cos we think he's gonna keep us up!

He will go 4-4-2 though with Calvert-Lewin flickin some headers on for Maupay or another striker… if we ever fuckin sign anyone.

Plus having watched Burnley quite a bit under him, he likes to get crosses into the box, something we have deffo lacked.

Shows the board haven't got much of a clue though if you believe it was him and Bielsa the main two in the running as they are two completely different managers.

Good luck, Sean. You're gonna need it.

Kevin Molloy
31 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:09:02
If he keeps us up, fair play he will have done an outstanding job and be fully deserving of a 3-year contract.

It's a big ask, none of the teams down with us look hopeless so we are going to need to be picking up points most weeks just to stay above Southampton!

He deserves this chance, 10 years at Burnley, turning them into a top flight club remarkably. Must admit, if I took over at Burnley I don't think I'd be getting and keeping them in the Premier League.

He's clearly a top coach. The main wish I have now is that the fans just give him a chance and stay off his back.

Dale Rose
32 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:12:40
Sam 19. Interesting post. Would the interpretation be that with the lot in the first team being relegated, the under 21 team moved to be the first team in the Championship?. Interesting. Completely off the wall, but bold.
Mal van Schaick
33 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:12:54
If it was Bielsa or Dyche, I’d rather have Dyche, but there are no guarantees. He could be just what we need or another flop. I hope it’s the former and I hope he can keep us on the league.

Four days to go on the transfer market, and a late sacking and appointment may be too little too late. Good luck, give it your best, get the players on board and let’s beat Arsenal and the red shite to start with.

Stan Grace
34 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:16:08
"Dyche set to be announced as the next Everton manger."


Andrew Ellams
35 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:17:41
Interesting to see which players in our current squad can make up a Sean Dyche team.

I'm going

Pickford-Patterson-Mykolenko-Tarkowski-Mina-Onana-Iwobi-Gray-McNeil-Calvert Lewin-Simms

All subject to fitness and any transfer moves between now and Tuesday of course.

Peter Neilson
36 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:25:25
Tough job to turn this around unless we also bring in a creative midfielder and a striker. Looks unlikely, I wonder if the board expect him to work with what he's got?

Maybe a contract until the end of the season, then review it. Although, if he has the same negotiation skills as Allardyce, he'll get an 18-month contract.

Lee Courtliff
37 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:27:28
So, the man my Burnley fan friends told me was the "best manager in the bloody country" is now in charge of my club!!

Shame I spent years telling them he was a dinosaur who played God-awful football. I can hear their laughs now, from miles away.

All we can look forward to is playing 4-4-2 hoofball and 35% possession with 1 shot on target!!

I find this appointment quite embarrassing and I'd have much rather have gone fighting under Bielsa than watch turgid, negative shite. But, he's here now, he is our manager and we must support him.

Hopefully he'll bring us stability and organisation (along with survival this season, obviously) for 18 months; then we can bring in a young, progressive mana...blah, blah, blah!!

Fuckin Everton...I hate how much I care but I just can't stop myself.

Jeff Armstrong
38 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:28:36
Ashley Barnes on his way?

Yes, Blues, here's the striker you've all been craving. 🤣
Eddie Dunn
39 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:28:45
This could be the start of us getting back to basics on and off the field.

A straightforward manager who will hopefully give us something to cheer.

Welcome, Sean.

James Marshall
40 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:29:12
Just seen Anthony Gordon turn up at Finch Farm. Probably making sure he's about to meet the new manager just in case we don't flog him to Newcastle.
Jim Wilson
41 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:30:53
Good Luck to Sean Dyche.

Make life easy for yourself. Bring in a midfield general to help Gueye and get the team playing as a unit.

And bring in a hard-working forward.


Malcolm Kitchen
42 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:31:05
Ray 6 and Barry 7, spot on guys!

People don't give Sean Dyche enough credit; two seasons ago, Burnley finished 7th and in the Europa League. They beat us, Liverpool & Arsenal away, the current Premier League leaders, in what was an average team.

I recall a certain Dwight McNeil scoring a peach of a goal and he was putting a tackle in everywhere! Carra on commentary that day said he was the best player on the pitch! Only 21 at the time!!!

So let's welcome Sean to Goodison and get behind him and hope we have 3 new signings before the Arsenal game!!!

Stu Darlington
43 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:31:44
Kevin @17,

Please stop introducing common sense into this hysterical debate!

The “Dyche Out” battle lines are already been drawn up.
After all, we had such a plethora of world-class managers all clamouring for the job, why choose him?

I just hope he has been given more than a 6-month contract.
I can imagine the conversation now: “Thanks for keeping us up, Sean, but you don't play football the Everton Way so we are not extending your contract.”

Or: “We only hired you to keep us up, Sean, and you failed, so we are not renewing your contract but we thank you for all you've done for the club and wish you well in your future career.”

Just imagine how much notice a bunch of over-paid, under-achieving players are going to take of what he is trying to accomplish when they know he's likely to be out of the door at the end of the season?

Anyway, I thought a revolving door of constantly changing managers was something we virtually all agreed was a bad thing for the club? Don't we want a period of stability?

Sometimes, I just don't get some of the thinking that goes on on this site!

Ernie Baywood
44 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:31:54
I'm sure there's a host of players out there thinking "I wasn't going to go to that basket case of a club but, now they've got Sean Dyche, I might have to rethink things"

Or survival is entirely dependent on finding goals and we won't find them in the current team.

I doubt Thelwell strained his grey matter too much with this appointment. Hopefully he's at least preoccupied with a genius signing.

Kunal Desai
45 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:32:03
Last throw of the Dyche for Everton.
Peter Carpenter
46 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:32:54
Haven't most of our best managers been of the straightforward, 'no nonsense' type?

Maybe they are the only ones that 'get us'?

Simon Harrison
47 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:35:37
This a specific message for Tony Abrahams, re a player that Mr Dyche ("He might be ginger on the outside, but inside he's blue!")

I've just been trawling some real-life, not game-based, player databases, and found this guy: Ion Nicolaescu playing in the Israeli League. Doesn't sound much, but he looks very quick, has great upper body strength, plays with both feet, obviously has a footballing brain, and only costs €600k (approx. £500k) He has good statistics and is at a good age for resale when he makes it in the Premier League.

Go get him, Sean & Kevin...

You tube link here, Highlight reel

Official promotional video Promo Video

Welcome Sean, by the way, now keep us up please, pretty please...

Raymond Fox
48 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:36:13
What Kevin @21 says.
Geoff Lambert
49 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:36:22
We don't care,
He's got red hair,
Seany Seany Dyche.

That song will only be appropriate for the rest of the season because, come May, he will be grey or bald or both. Good luck, lad, you are going to need it.

Peter Hodgson
50 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:37:23
Unusually, this time, Everton have got it right. Bielsa would have been the wrong choice in the circumstances. The question therefore has to be: Can Dyche keep us up?

Well, statistically the answer is Yes. Is he going to get our shower of a team playing attractive football at the same time? Unlikely.

Our football to the end of the season should be pragmatic stuff based on needs must. This has the best chance of keeping us up so is what we need this time round. Job done. I hope.

Liam Wilson
51 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:37:48
Dyche's win ratio not much better than Lampard's.

However, it's his draw ratio plus a few wins that will keep us up. I can't seem to find those draw ratio stats for him versus Lampard's.

Jonathan Tasker
52 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:39:20
Predictable comparisons with when Allardyce came in. However, three big differences:

1. Everton were not in the relegation zone then.
2. This squad is considerably weaker than that one
3. There are no really bad teams this season apart from Everton.

Dyche needs to get at least two strikers in before the window shuts and he may save Everton. Lampard would have taken them down for sure.

Derek Knox
53 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:39:43
At long last, not a Hollywood name, but we didn't need another one of those in the predicament we are in. The process could have been speeded up had Barrett-Baxendale not had a ladder in her tights (wardrobe malfunction), and constantly getting info via her phone on Footballing lingo.

Joking apart, I believe this to be the most realistic appointment. Bielsa would have neither had the time, nor the players (inherited) ,nor probably the backing of the Board for finances and may have walked. Davide Ancelotti would I believe have been a good choice but again the wrong time, why didn't he step in when dad went? Maybe one for the future.

When you look at Dyche's record at Burnley, he had little funding but managed to keep them up punching above their weight several times, beating some big named sides too. Their fans idolised him, I remember the Dyche masks too.

Now the interesting part starts, we have technically enough games and points to play for to achieve safety, will he be backed in the Transfer market as we definitely need bolstering up front and midfield? At least he has 3 or 4 days to negotiate, not long, but better than nothing, I suppose.

Welcome aboard, you have my backing. The Future May Be Bright, The Future's Ginger!

Dave Williams
54 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:42:29
Jason #17,

“No club of our stature”????? We just escaped last season and are joint bottom half-way into this season. We last won a trophy back in 1995!!

We have to leave our past in the past – times have changed and our manager's job is a poisoned chalice that very few guys fancy. Our stature is at an all-time low and we need to rebuild from the bottom.

Dyche will give us a solid defence and hopefully get some pace into it. The midfield has been a shambles for a long time and Dyche will make sure whoever he picks knows exactly what their role is and god help them if they don't perform.

What he needs is a striker, as we all know, and if Gordon goes we will have some decent money for one.

If Dyche can stabilise us, then let's see if he has it in him to then build a decent young team with energy and desire.

In the meantime, the fans need to get behind the team like last season and stop all this defeatist crap – we are not adrift and there's plenty of games left so less of the “I'm finished with the club” nonsense and do what we were all born to do and support our team!!!

Danny O’Neill
55 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:44:31
Christopher, I tend to get emotional and even by my standards, I feel pretty emotional right now about Everton.

Lee; we'll meet up at the match soon. We both can't help ourselves!!

Mark Ryan
56 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:45:07
It's not Frank, it's not Rooney, it's not big Dunc, it's not Moyes, it's not Benitez, it's not Bobby Brown Shoes, it's not Bielsa (pensioner looking for a swansong) it's not Allardyce.

Happy days!!! UTFTs

Colin Glassar
57 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:45:40
Neither hot or cold feelings towards this appointment. I can only wish him the best of luck and, god help us.
Christy Ring
58 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:46:17
I believe he's the best choice of the two.

The Mail saying Biesla turned it down, doesn't make sense that he'd fly all the way here just to say he didn't want it. His demands were probably too much, but I think he'd have been a disaster.

Some comments on here that the DOF wanted a different manager, but if he had a personal choice, wouldn't he have at least got an interview? I believe so.

Dyche comes across as a strong individual, and brought Burnley as far as he could, and didn't he fall out with the new owners? He deserves a chance with a big club (not trying to be funny); we'll see what he's made of.

Frank left with dignity, said a nice few words about the club and fans, I don't think he mentioned the board?

Daniel A Johnson
59 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:51:58
Everton are a shit show at the moment so all credit to Dyche if he wants to take it on.

The right man in at the right time.

Let’s all 100% get behind him.

Steve Brown
60 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:52:13
Jonathan, there are 8 really bad teams in the Premier League this season.

Including us!

Craig Walker
61 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:53:36
The right choice. We need to walk before we can run.
Peter Carpenter
62 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:54:08
They could have done this on Tuesday.
Rennie Smith
63 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:56:17
Can't say I'm doing cartwheels over his appointment but he'll get nothing but full support from me. He's a straight-forward organiser, which is probably what we need.

Aside from the obvious difference in experience, I can't see much difference in his philosophy to Bug Dunc. I'm not saying Dunc should have got the gig, but we've had plenty of managers state that hard work is the key and failed.

Good luck to him and I hope he gets some time, but I also hope we haven't just rolled in another Benitez or Allardyce.

Joe McMahon
64 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:56:34
The moment Frank left, it was always going to be Sean Dyche. Out of work (with no offers from any other clubs). Not sure why Thelwell was needed to be honest.

Like all previous managers, he needs the workshy players to put in the effort.

Aw well, we start again, with two very tough fixtures coming up.

Dennis Stevens
65 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:59:26
They could have done it in November, Peter.
Stuart Gray
66 Posted 27/01/2023 at 11:59:34
Wish him luck, but he is seriously out of his depth imo.

I hope to be proved wrong, but Burnley was not the shitshow we are atm. Plus we have a week to do transfer business and Chris Woods is already at Forest, so where does he turn?

Barry Hesketh
67 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:00:44
Everton are closing in on appointment of Sean Dyche as the new Everton Manager. Contracts being sorted until June 2025
(Source - @FabrizioRomano)

A 2½-year contract seems about right; I never thought that Dyche would be our manager when we departed Goodison and arrived at the new place.

Colin Glassar
68 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:01:19
He wants a 3-year contract? Well, any incoming manager would have us over a barrel.

So another massive payoff further down the line. We never learn.

Francis van Lierop
69 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:02:50
Not impressed at all.

The good thing is that no more time is wasted. He has a week to prepare for Arsenal.

Tom Bowers
70 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:03:22
Okay, so it's Sean Dyche. Good luck, lad!

At this time of the season, and in Everton's position, you have to take what you can get – much like the signing of players.

He did well with a ragtag bunch at Burnley, so why not here?

Like last January, it's déjà vu time… so fingers crossed.

Pat Kelly
71 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:03:27
So it's Cash Needy after all. What a turnaround! Hope he lives up to his reputation and can sweat Everton's assets, such as they are.
Christopher Timmins
72 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:05:26
I wonder who will be in the Directors Dox at 12:30 pm next Saturday?
Mark Taylor
73 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:06:09
As I said last night, beggars can't be choosers and Dyche is probably about as good as we can do now.

I just hope our board of incompetents have sorted the terms in advance. Because if not, we have very publicly backed ourselves into a corner with a short list of two, one of which had already expressed reservations about taking the role even before the interview. In basic negotiating strategy, we would be in a very weak position in relation to Dyche's demands as of now.

Of course our board are not as useless as that. Are they?

Bill Fairfield
74 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:09:28
Well, if Sean Dyche is still the manager when we move into the new Everton Stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock, he must have done something right.

Good luck, Sean, if it's confirmed.

Kevin Molloy
75 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:12:03

I think the board aren't just incompetent, they act in bad faith.

I don't think it was Bielsa who released the info about him having reservations, I think that call came from inside the house.

Justin Doone
76 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:18:13
Please no!

A two-horse race of two horses that should never have been in the running.

We still end up with the lessor of the two.

It would be unbelievable, apart from the fact it follows on from the many 'wrong managers' appointed by a Moshiri-led board. Pathetic!

It hasn't yet been confirmed so I'm still hopeful it never is. IMO, a second rate Sam in experience, track record, motivation and football style.

My only hope are his finances are minimal so we can get rid asap without too much of a payout. But given Moshiri's terrible record of getting shafted, I doubt it.

Anthony Murphy
77 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:21:27
I get Dyche is a sensible appointment, but we seem incapable of forward planning. Last time we had a shortlist of Pereira, Ferguson and Lampard – this time it's Dyche, Bielsa and (possibly) Davide Ancelotti.

I just don't get why we don't plan in advance – we are repeating our approach – same with player transfers and waiting til the bitter end each window.

Sean Roe
78 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:23:09
According to Wikipedia:-

''Sean Dyche football manager and former player who was most recently the manager of Everton.''

I know we get through managers quickly but this is taking the piss.

Colin Glassar
79 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:24:14
Maybe Spurs will grab him at the 11th hour?
Gerry Quinn
80 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:24:31
Let us get right behind him and all of the team now – we know that we are the best supporters, so let us prove it... back him and the boys up, guys, please.
Kevin Molloy
81 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:24:43
It shows how unprofessional the club is though. This change has been coming for months, and we've managed to drag it out for as long as possible, in the full blaze of publicity. We allowed the perception that the new manager was our second choice, and that we are now haggling with him about a short-term contract cos we don't really trust him.

I remember when Klopp arrived, there was that unpleasant rumour and literally half-an-hour later he was giving his press conference. Here, it feels like we are still operating in the 1950s. Just so fucking shoddy.

David Bromwell
82 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:25:19
Well it's finally sorted, and I guess we did not have many options but, in the circumstances, I believe Dyche was the obvious choice given our current predicament. He has got one hell of a job to do and he will need a good deal of fortune to save us from relegation.

I just hope he is lucky and a couple of points from his first games in charge would represent some progress. It will be interesting to see what happens in this transfer window, particularly with Anthony Gordon seemingly set to leave. Clearly, we need extra options up front and in midfield and what about a left-sided defender, anybody?

I will now renew my season ticket next week and hope for a brighter future.

Peter Brogan
83 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:25:59
Lucky number seven. Dyche makes sense for us now. He knows four of the players very well. The key now is we need 2 or 3 forward players in straight away.

Let's get behind him; sound bloke and he takes no nonsense from anyone. I felt Frank was too much of a mate with the players. UTFT!

Robert Tressell
84 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:26:37
Overwhelmingly logical choice for our current predicament. The negative comments are just borne from unrealistic vanity about what Everton Football Club now is. None of that is Dyche's fault.

I look forward to seeing us become well organised in open play and at set-pieces, hard-working and direct. All of this sounds very much like Joe Royle, by the way.

I also think he'll help us recruit players who are a good fit for the club.

More than anything, I think we can stay up now. It will be very hard but we have a decent chance.

Mark Howard
85 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:26:53
Last throw of the Dyche.

Let's hope we have to name a pub after him.

Good luck to him.

Peter Carpenter
86 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:26:55
Official Everton website announces Dyche as new manager - about three weeks from now.
John Reynolds
87 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:27:39
The pragmatic choice. It should have been done on Tuesday morning. If Dyche can't get workrate and commitment from the players, nobody can.

He should get us organised too. That might just be enough to rescue the situation. We can't look further than May right now.

James Newcombe
88 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:28:52
I think some people need to have a long look at the Premier League table.

Dyche is a big upgrade on Lampard and hopefully will see the end of the pass-and-stand-still possession system. We can't be much worse.

Bill Watson
89 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:31:53
I'd take Dyche over Bielsa any day of the week. We need to be realistic and remember the absolute shit we're in.
Danny O’Neill
90 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:32:12
Just do it and stop torturing this long suffering very loyal fan base.

Make a decision and get on with it.

I'm past caring who is in the dugout, I don't even look at it these days. I just want someone who can get the team ready for Arsenal and Anfield.

Get on with it.

And then get on with making the real change in the summer once we get over the line again.

Right now, I just want points and I'm not particularly bothered who helps the team get them regardless of my views and opinions.

I think I'll be listening to the Eagles again this evening to calm myself.

For the record and I know they are only words, but very nice words from Frank Lampard on social media.

Barry Rathbone
91 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:33:49
Be nice if this time round the anti- x brigade (x being the latest manager) park their angst and get behind him. We need all hands to the pump — not gleeful "I told you so" merchants crowing after the first bad result.
Mark Ryan
92 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:36:25
Onwards and upwards. He'll get us moving and he is exactly what we need.

I just hope we can get a striker or 2 in. Then I'd be much more confident of how the season will pan out.

No more "Calvert-Lewin is our talisman" bollocks from Frank.

Brian Williams
93 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:37:15

I'll be getting right behind him because, if he does well, then my club is doing well.

If he keeps us up, that would be an extremely good start because, let's face it, we're absolutely shite at the moment.

Colin Malone
94 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:41:11
Danny # 90.
I'll be waiting in the weeds.
Derek Knox
95 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:41:22
Probably too much to ask, that most on TW agreeing he is the best choice under the circumstances. I think one thing we all do agree on, is we have the most dysfunctional Board of any club. We definitely have the worst Chairman, although, unbelievably some crop up now and again defending the greedy narcissistic (spanner in the works) maggot.

Hoping that Dyche will change a few opinions on here, and in a positive way. At least he just about has enough time both in the Transfer Window to strengthen – I hope he is given sufficient funds – and enough games left to at the very least keep our 70-year record in the Top Flight intact.

Christopher Timmins
96 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:42:13
Two major battles between now and the end of the season:

One: to maintain our top-flight status; and

Two: to bring about meaningful change at Board level!

Jerome Shields
97 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:42:32
Dyche is probably the best available, but he is going to need a lot of luck. Good Luck to him.
Chris Leyland
98 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:42:38

The anti brigade won't be able to help themselves. They will be itching to say “We should have got x or y” and if it goes wrong they can be the know-it-alls who can then refer back to how ‘wise' they are as they will say they never wanted him in the first place.

Me, given where we are, I think it's a pragmatic and prudent appointment and will be right behind him.

Anthony Hawkins
99 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:42:53
My advice to Dyche is get a rolling 6-month rental home as you may not need it much longer than that.

I hope he can work miracles and somehow keeps us up. First call of business is find a way for the team to score.

Ray Robinson
100 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:43:54
As James #88 says, expect the ball to be pumped forwards at the earliest opportunity. Calvert-Lewin and another big man up front will be busy! Expect another bustling target man to arrive, a la Barnes or failing that, Onana to be moved up top.

McNeil and Mykolenko to fire in curling crosses, sometimes from the touchline just inside the half-way. line. Keane to be reinstated as centre-back.

It won't be pretty but at least we'll try to play forwards.

Joe McMahon
101 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:49:58
I'm hoping Ian Woan joins Mr Dyche.
John Graham
102 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:50:28
No, no and thrice no.

He never ever proved to be a good manager either with Burnley or especially at Blackburn.

I can see us even struggling in the Championship next season with his poor style and tactics.

Mike Price
103 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:54:51
If only he had Wolves and Southampton at home in his first few games.
That would probably have been 6 points.

Moshiri’s dithering and Lampard's loitering for his payoff has cost us big time.

Anthony Hawkins
104 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:56:40
Still has to bring in a striker, even if a winger and/or a midfield general also joins.
Gerry Western
105 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:57:02
The old saying 'beggars can't be choosers' springs to mind, I'll leave at that.
Jim Wilson
106 Posted 27/01/2023 at 12:58:50
It is the right choice in my opinion.

It should have been done during the World Cup break though.
That is why this board are useless.

Mark Ryan
107 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:00:24
Never proven he is a good manager?

Finished 7th with Burnley in the Premier League and only spent 10 bob!!

If Frank got us to 7th, you'd want him knighted!!!

Dan Parker
108 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:06:59
The right choice and we should stick with him, even if we go down, providing he doesn't completely lose the dressing room and has a huge winless streak, of course...
Steve Ferns
109 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:15:28
I'm not happy that the powers that be have chosen to go down the Dyche route. I think they have made the wrong choice, yet again.

I wanted Gallardo, but with him never really being linked, either the club did not want him or he did not want to come. The club do know of Gallardo, as Brands had him top of the list when we appointed Ancelotti. If Gallardo said no, and I had to work through the list of the favourites with the bookies, Marcelino was more attractive than Dyche.

I wrote on here about why I did not think it was right to go after Bielsa. I think I was right but, between him and Dyche, there is no question for me. The issues were age, Bielsa is 67 and his energy levels are not what they once were.

Not an issue for someone like Ancelotti who stands passively on the sidelines at training. Someone who whispers wise words into the ears of players. Someone who sees tweaks and makes them to win games.

Bielsa is not someone stood on the sidelines. He is in the middle of it in training. Like a young coach. Watch the many, many YouTube videos and you'll see him ranting and raving at his players to do what he wants. When they do, he is bellowing encouragement. He looks like he is going to give himself a heart attack.

A proper Bielsa is like this and the 67-year-old has lost a bit of it.

Also, I was worried that Bielsa does not have time to prepare. He watches more tape of games than any other manager. He is famous for it. The only one who can rival him is Benitez. The modern coach relies on a team of analysts instead. Bielsa being 67 still prefers to do it all himself. He makes little videos for each player. Things to do, things to work on.

Before taking a job, he does his due diligence. He has never taken a job mid-season – ever. Taking the Everton job was not something I thought he would do, mid-season.

He wants to watch every minute of every game for at least the last three seasons. Not just watch the game, but study it. Study what each player is doing at each given moment. Meticulous detail of the player and his movements, his attributes, and have an idea of how he can or cannot use the player.

Then he wants a long pre-season to work with them. To get them ready for the fitness levels he requires. This all takes time. He cannot do it mid-season.

However, Marcelo flew in to London for talks. This is a big step. This is not politely telling the club, No. This is Bielsa having considered it carefully and thinking there is a way it works.

Perhaps, at 67, he is thinking he has not got many opportunities left, this could be his last job. Once he flew into London, I knew he wanted to take the job. Do not let anyone tell you otherwise. No-one flies in from South America and simply says No.

Bielsa is a control freak. No doubt about that. But some misconstrue this. They think this means he wants to control transfer policy. Not at all. Bielsa wants the final say, for sure. No one leaves and no one comes in unless he agrees to it.

But Bielsa does not scout players. He does not talk to agents. He does not want to nip over to Blackburn to watch Ben Brereton Diaz playing. He wants to work with a Director of Football.

He will give a profile of a player. A list of attributes that the player must have. Then the scouts will find a few, the DoF will negotiate the transfers and contracts and Bielsa will give his consent.

At Lazio, Bielsa agreed to take the job. Lazio were in a mess. He resigned before a ball was kicked. The President had agreed to sign 5 or 6 players, the players were all agreed by Bielsa, the President and the recruitment team. They were all attainable. Lazio signed none of them, and so he resigned.

At Argentina, Bielsa dropped Argentina's best player. Juan Roman Riquelme. At the height of his powers. He will take on the big star. He will get rid of him if he does not like him. He had the whole country against him.

Bielsa is strong enough to take everyone on. The reason he got rid of Riquelme is not that he was super slow. It was that he is the archetypical Argentina Number 10. Strolls around, hands on hips. and foot on the ball. Bielsa, as you know, wants high-tempo football. He could have used the slow Riquelme, but only if he kept the ball moving fast.

His passing ability would have worked in his system, but Riquelme had too much clout and refused to play Bielsa's way. So Bielsa dropped him. This act, and the many times he did exactly the same thing, shows you that Bielsa can sort out our squad. He can do what none of the managers since Moyes has done, and take on the shirkers. His way or no way.

Why did Silva fail? Probably because he lacked the authority and strength of character to impose his will on the players. They threw him under the bus, they made his tactics look flawed.

Bielsa would not allow them to do that to him. He would drop any one of them. He would not hesitate to replace a star name with a youth player who will do exactly what they are told.

Allardyce used to drill the defence. We had a great well-drilled defence as a result. It was not him personally but his legion of coaches. When it came to the attack, Allardyce said he had talented players and they could figure it out for themselves. Our players could not.

The modern player is not like an '80s player. They do not want to think for themselves. Academies do not teach them to think for themselves. They are programmed how to think and what to do, and when given freedom they produce the zombie football we all hate.

Bielsa sorts this out. He teaches players how to run, where to run, where to expect others to run. He programs into the players what the Americans call "plays". This, in case you have not guessed, is pre-determined movements by the players.

This is something other coaches have copied for well over a decade now. There's countless videos on YouTube of Bielsa coaching top coaches how to do it. Players do not have to think for themselves, they are programmed where to go and what to do.

As for the defence, Bielsa is defensively sound. So many make out that he is Kevin Keegan. Score more than the opposition, we will win 5-4. That is not Bielsa's thinking at all. Bielsa does not want this to happen. Bielsa likes to defend high up the pitch.

He invented the hounding of the player on the ball that coaches like Guardiola and Klopp adapt so well. Sure, he did not actually invent it, and as my father told me when I used to rave about Bielsa to him, "We used to do it, we just called it closing down, son".

Sure, we did do closing down in the 80s and perhaps before, but not to the extent that Bielsa does. These days, it is all about beating the press. the press Bielsa pioneered. But after having people trying to beat his press for so many years, Bielsa knows better than anyone how to stop this, how to adapt to the press being beaten.

His Chile team played a 3-1-3-3 formation. It's usually written as 3-3-1-3, but make no mistake he had a DM in front of that back 3. This formation had no width. None at all. The middle was congested. Teams could not beat the press through the middle if that's where everyone was.

So they go wide, and Bielsa's tactics were always about forcing the opposition wide. Force them to run further and you can get back. Look how many goals his teams other than Leeds conceded and you'll see that it was not Kevin Keegan attacking tactics.

I do not believe this rubbish about Bielsa coaching the Under-21s. I note the journalists peddling this narrative all have Kenwright connections. He is spinning this round so Dyche does not look bad. The club is trying to deflect away from the reality.

What is the reality? Well, I do not know, I was not privy to it. Bielsa would not have come here to simply say No. He boarded the plane with every intention of saying Yes. He will have offered a way to fix Everton, not just this season but long term.

Bielsa would not want to sign big-name stars, he would want players he has worked with, or players he knows we can sign. Young and hungry. With him in charge for a sustained period, spending would be at a minimum. He would keep the squad he had and only make changes to fix injury issues, loss of form, transfers out, or something of that nature.

If Bielsa felt there was a way to make it work at Everton, and he would not have boarded a plane unless that was indeed the case, then it is disappointing that we have not listened and acquiesced to his demands.

As for Dyche. He is not a bad manager. He always protests, as does Allardyce, that he can play better football if given the opportunity. Well, here it is. We are only 2 points off safety. We are only 3 points off 14th.

Okay, we are going to lose our next two matches. We would expect to be about 4 points off safety and well adrift of that middle section. But then comes Leeds Utd (h), Aston Villa (h), Nottm Forest (a), Brentford (h). 4 winnable games. If we win 3 of them, then I would expect us to be back in the middle of that middle section and above the relegation zone.

The other thing that occurs to me is this: forget Lampard. Imagine we went from Benitez to Dyche. The football we played under the Spaniard is similar to what we can expect under Dyche. The players are mostly the same type. The playing style is similar. It is not a big jump. It is only a year ago.

Squad-wise, the big loss from the Benítez days is Richarlison. But other than him, it is Tosun, Kenny, Alli, Branthwaite, Gomes, Rondon, Delph, Gbamin. Only Richarlison is a loss to Dyche, but he will want to replace Tosun & Rondon, as we all do.

As for the signings in since Benitez: Onana, McNeil, Maupay, Garner, Gueye, Tarkowski, Coady, and Vinagre. How many of them are not suited to Dyche? Garner is the first that comes to mind. Vinagre perhaps as well. But the rest will fit his system. He can use them.

With Tarkowski and Keane, he inherits two of his old centre-halves. He will also like Coady, Particuarly with playing a deeper line, like he did at Burnley. This will then bring out the best from Mykolenko.

Coleman's pace is less of an issue sitting deep. Perhaps Patterson is ill-suited to Dyche, but he did well with Trippier. Maybe he can work on Patterson.

The midfield with Onana, Gueye, Doucoure, and Davies vying for a central two, then that surely would be satisfactory to Dyche's requirements. Iwobi will be shunted to a wide midfield berth.

Gray does not really fit unless he is a forward. Gordon is gone. McNeil will be given a second chance under a man who understands him. Townsend is on his way back and would suit. We definitely need another wide midfielder.

Up front, we know we are desperately short. Calvert-Lewin and Maupay would suit Dyche, if he can get them back on form. Dyche will need another target man, and a more effective second striker than Maupay, unless he can get Gray to play that role.

For me, the squad does more easily suit Dyche. We are not as far behind as we all think. The run of losses makes things seem worse than they are. We just need a few players of quality to suit Dyche's tactics.

I might be bitterly disappointed that we have Dyche instead of Bielsa, but I believe we can be optimistic of beating the drop, regardless. The task is not as difficult as some have been making out.

Matt Hayhurst
110 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:15:33
Under Lampard I got sick of pass-pass-pass-pass - keeping possession in our own half and going nowhere. Giving the opposition time to get back into their own defensive shape.

The possession game is okay if you have a Grealish, Foden, Mahrez etc who can get past a defence with skill. We don't have those players.

We also have a traditional Number 9 who might actually start scoring again if we give him some crosses rather than deciding to pass back again.

It sounds old-fashioned but I think our squad is better suited to getting the ball forward fast and getting crosses in.

Hopefully that is what Dyche will bring.

Dale Self
111 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:16:15
Really fucking looking forward to the live forum. Get behind him or don't, he won't be the least bit distracted. Find stories about how his childhood dog's red thing would come out of its dick when the red shite were on the telly. Doesn't matter... Not going down. Viva la 4-4-2!
John Chambers
112 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:17:47
Of the two options he was the only sensible choice for me. If it was Bielsa, he only has one way of playing and, with our current squad, I could see many hammerings.

Dyche will at least try and adapt the style (sure it will be very dour) around the squad.

Garry Martin
113 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:21:20
Given the hierarchy running (or lack of) our club, and our financial circumstances, I believe Dyche is the right decision.

Hope he starts by putting the 'big heads' within the squad in their place, to many times these wealthy stars are 'wonders in their own right'.

We need these players to knuckle down, start playing at 110% and hopefully get some points on the board, after all, we still have 18 games left to make a difference.

Ian Edwards
114 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:25:56
This is probably the best manager given the position we are in. Or Allardicio.

Bielsa would have been a car crash.

Joe McMahon
115 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:28:49
Does anyone know any mural artists? We need a big mural "Gaffer" like the one in Burnley. Would look grand on the walls/cladding of Goodison Park.
Michael Lynch
116 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:28:57
Whatever else happens, I'm glad to see Steve Ferns back on here. I have no idea if he knows what he's talking about, but it sounds plausible and it makes great reading.

Andrew James
117 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:29:39
I'd take Dyche based on a few things I have learned about in recent days plus our personnel and how he deployed his resources at Burnley.

There was a stat on ToffeeWeb that we've actually been quite mean at the back and, as we have all been saying, the real problem has been in the attack.

I would expect Dyche to not only sustain that defensive solidity but get the best out of Calvert-Lewin as the target man.

I don't have much faith in many of our players but Dyche could give us a fighting chance to pull clear and then represents calmer waters in coming seasons.

Jimmy Hogan
118 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:29:54
Pies, tinned meat, clatter, fried eggs, studs up, elbows, giblets.

That's the Sean Dyche way. 😀

Phil Head
119 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:31:22
What a depressing prospect: Sean fuckin Dyche.

Just when you think this club couldn't stoop any lower?

Give him a 6-year contract and be done with it.

But of course, you can't possibly have a pre-emptive opinion on this forum, everybody's got to be given a chance, right?

So here's my prediction, for what it's worth. Nobody will want to sign for a Sean Dyche team (understandably), Dwight McNeil will play every game until the end of the season and Everton will be relegated, having finished 20th position!

Terry McLavey
120 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:32:17
The only option we have is to employ managers who have failed elsewhere… only in football eh?
Kieran Kinsella
121 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:34:26
Ian Edwards,

Agreed. Being optimistic like Howe, he kept a small club in the top flight, played a certain way, and finally had a bad season. Howe has shown he can do more and be more flexible so hopefully Dyche will do likewise.

Dean Johnson
122 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:36:46

Tony Abrahams
123 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:37:17
Joe@3, Dyche, will definitely 100% get Everton, mate. I gave him his introduction to the lunacy and fanaticism of an Evertonian, when he was sixteen, and I’m sure he will still remember some of the mad antics, in our digs, whenever Everton were playing a midweek game.

I’m sitting here reminiscing, the little ginger scraggy kid, has just got to the pinnacle of English football (in my Evertonian mind) and I’m absolutely delighted for him.

He’s built a career, on being a no-nonsense man, and speaking to him last year, (for only the second time in 33 years) he told me that he tells the players, to wear shin pads in training, because nobody is allowed to take it easy and shit out of any tackles.

Let’s not kid ourselves, we might love skill, but above all else us scousers, love this type of football, because it’s probably the first thing that most of us were taught when we were children.

Forget the rocket science, I look over the park and see when Liverpool lose a bit of energy, they begin to struggle because they are built on pragmatic energy, and so was “Kendall’s-Everton”. I’m not saying it’s just a scouse thing, but if you understand Scousers, they love players, who work fucking hard, so start as you mean to go on please Dychey 🤞🙏

Rick Tarleton
124 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:38:38
Dyche is preferable to Bielsa. Will he be the one who changes Everton? Some huge names haven't managed it, but we will all have our fingers crossed that this is the man. I hope he has some instant tactics that can make Everton competitive and capable of scoring goals.

Not hugely optimistic, I think poor management has been the symptom of the last 30 years of Johnson, Kenwright and Moshiri, rather than the cause of Everton's decline.

Good luck to Dyche. COYB.

Dennis Stevens
125 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:39:05
Interesting, Tony - & was he a boyhood red, as rumoured?
Jer Kiernan
126 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:48:11
Not sure if this was posted elsewhere, Our new Manager discussing his use of 4-4-2 with Burnley, don't they say Football is a simple game,only complicated by fools, DCL will be key to us staying up


Dale Self
127 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:50:08
I would strongly suggest that this is not the appointment our future opponents were desiring. They don’t fear Everton’s play in the final third they fear the physical take no prisoners style of the better Cahill days. We have enough in the squad to get that and the opportunities will rise from that intensity.
Peter Carpenter
128 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:53:24
Into battle.
Allen Rodgers
129 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:56:19
Dyche's job at the Dingles was to keep them up against all the odds and he did just that for quite a few seasons. His job now is to keep us up this season. After that who knows what state we'll be in but, for now, fans and players have to get behind him.
Derek Knox
130 Posted 27/01/2023 at 13:58:03
Steve @ 109, Thanks for your in depth and knowledgeable analysis of both Dyche and Bielsa, like you say a younger Bielsa, and the start of a season may have been a different scenario, however he is never going to get any younger, none of us are, but I feel the right choice has been made under the circumstances.

Oh, and welcome back Steve, missed your posts !

Mark Wynne
131 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:00:32
It is Big Sam all over again isn’t it? No one here seems to want him beyond the end of the season. He’ll no doubt get something like a three year deal with us forking out the difference when he is inevitably moved on. Come the beginning of next season we will want to see the team kick on from wherever we are and Dyche won’t be seen able to do that. He’s a “steady the ship and avoid relegation” option. His team will be full of the usual dead weights and no matter what the result, it won’t be enough and fans will want another change in six months.

At least with Bielsa, he would have probably raided the youth team in the search something new to give hope. Instead prepare to see Burnley Mk II and Keane probably the first name on the team sheet.

Joseph Terrence
132 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:07:43
This is the right appointment and for anyone saying that dyche will be gone after 6 months - you're off your rocker. We'll need him for at least the next 2.5 years to put in place a solid foundation and to instill a sense of bravery in this cowardly team. I still have doubts that we will stay up given the atrocious state of the squad, but that will not be dyche's fault and he'll be able to bring us up from the championship with a team that actually gives a damn.
Ajay Gopal
133 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:08:40
I favoured Bielsa over Dyche because I think this squad has lacked in coaching, tactics, in game management and a manager who would make the opposition and referees uneasy just be sheer force of personality. However, I will 100% support Dyche and my wish as with all Everton managers - may you succeed! Success for me this season is: (1) Survival, of course (2) get a semblance of a playing style of being aggressive, tough to beat (3) Score more goals than the 1st half (4) oversee a few of the younger players coming good - maybe Garner, Mykolenko, Patterson, Onana, McNeil?

Now, Thelwell needs to get cracking with getting 2-3 players in before the transfer window slams shut - 1 big CF to provide genuine competition to Dominic, 1 creative mid-fielder and hopefully a goal scoring wide player.

Roger Helm
134 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:09:19
So the Dogs of War was a Good Thing when Joe Royle did it but it is now a Bad Thing when Sean Dyche does it?
Kieran Kinsella
135 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:14:36
Interesting to see diverse posters ranging from Barry Rathbone, Robert Tressell and Ian Edwards all on the same page here. I think that speaks to the realistic pragmatism of this appointment.
Bill Gall
136 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:17:51
Ken Kneale
137 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:19:19
Tony @123 I am encouraged by your comments as I respect your posts and your love of Everton.

Perhaps if you still have his number, a call and outlining the fans' view would benefit him in quickly learning about our squad and our boardroom antics

Nicholas Ryan
138 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:25:24
DYCHE: "Shield Wall"!
ARTETA: " Errr... What?!"
Tony Everan
139 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:25:58
Just as important is now is who he’s going to target to get some goals ? The next four days are massive for Everton FC and our battle, it will almost definitely decide Dyche’s fate too.

The team needs goals, he’s got to sign a couple of players who can score. Dyche will have done his homework and will have players in mind already. We’ll find out who they are very soon.

With so much at stake he won’t be gambling on young potential in this window. It will be experienced,hard bastard professionals who can score. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the rumoured Arnautovic and Ziyech arrive. Maybe others who are a similar profile , he will be signing players that the opposition will not enjoy playing against.

It’s a short term mindset, but there may be no long term if we don’t get the short term right. So the long term plan can wait until the short term goals are met.

Ian Hollingworth
140 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:26:05
Tony@123 he told me that he tells the players, to wear shin pads in training, because nobody is allowed to take it easy and shit out of any tackles.

That's Iwobi done for then lol

Was he at Forrest with you back then?

Pat Kelly
141 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:26:55
"I'm not sure these know how to win a game"

He gets Everton already.

Paul Kossoff
142 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:28:26
Along with Klop and fat Sam, I can't stand this man. But if he keeps us up, which I doubt anyone would, then he'll be my fav. If we go down then he just may be able to bring us back up. Hope springs as they say. Coyb.
Paul Swan
143 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:32:42
Let’s hope he uses his connections to bring in some new blood. Eddie Yeats and Stan Ogden should be expecting a call
Kieran Kinsella
144 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:33:53
Pat Kelly

Lol I thought the same

Bill Gall
145 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:36:50
Well he is our manager so as a supporter I will support him.. I understand the comments about him when at Burnley, but surely you only play a style with the type of players you have and I believe we have better players than he had at Burnley.

I don't believe his major problem is with the defense, ours is lack of goals and supply from the midfield. I am not sure what financial help he will get before the window closes but it would give him an advantage if he could get a more direct winger and a midfielder with a brain.

Styles, tactics and formations change, good coaches can adapt and learn, lets see if S.Dyche has learned anything since being unemployed that can improve his management style.

In the meantime Welcome to Everton and I hope you brought your Skis as you are on a very slippy slope.

Joe McMahon
146 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:37:04
Thanks for the update Tony@123, I didn't know you knew Sean in a previous life. Although I try not to compare Everton to that lot across the Park, as their successes unfortunately Dwarf ours.

The Everton squad is awful and wouldn't be able to play fast attack and move, there is no Bergkamp, Henry Scholes, Silva etc. I think Sean is the right manager with the squad, seeing as no wholesale changes will take place due to being skint. I wonder if its done damage to his reputation seeing what Vincent Kompany is achieving now. If it has he can try something different for Everton.

Mark Ryan
147 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:40:43
Michael Antonio from West Ham ? he wants away ? A yes from me
Pat Byrne
148 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:43:51
Good and right appointment at this time. Have a look at his Sky interview back in October. Real football talk and a plan how to deal with players and get the best out of the hand you are dealt.
Julian Wait
149 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:45:46
@James 24 - if Dyche can actually do that for us then he’s going to keep us up. We have some good players. We have enough to stay up with just a little more luck but also preferably a striker. Chris Wood on loan anyone? He’s not a world beater but he can find the net. And as for what Dyche said, isn’t that true of any leadership role? Understand the individuals, understand the goal, and find a way to make it work. Add a bit of prematch and l half time snarl and let’s see what happens.
Soren Moyer
150 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:48:04
Does it mean we are going to sign Jay Rodriguez and Ashley Barnes now!?
Julian Wait
151 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:48:10
On another note, Wikipedia lists his name as Sean Darlek Dyche …. So do we need to hide behind the sofa then?
Colin Glassar
152 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:49:51
Is this announcement going to take longer than Lampard’s sacking was announced? Is he having a medical? Having a photo shoot with his Everton top on? Has he decided to join Spurs instead? Questions, questions, questions
Peter Carpenter
153 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:49:53
No, those nitwits can't even spell 'dalek'.
Julian Wait
154 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:52:00
Is line to know if the Burnley old boys think this is a good thing or not … we have three right? Taros, Keane and McNeil, or am I forgetting someone sans there’s more ….?
Darren Hind
155 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:54:07
Cant announce it yet Col

Still four days left in the window

Barry Hesketh
156 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:57:24
It's the sheer volume of coverage about Everton - a desperate and broken football club - which has resonated most with me this week If this were just another bottom-half Premier League side in the mire, there would have been some discussion and debate.

But nothing on the scale we've seen. Maybe it's a back-handed compliment, but the reams of analysis and hours of talk are a reminder that Everton are one of the great clubs of British football.

That what has been unfolding at Goodison Park is a national football calamity.

You might be surprised to find me saying that, given I spent six of the best years of my life at the other end of Stanley Park. But Everton have always been a club that resonate for me. Graeme Souness (Via the Echo)

Joe McMahon
157 Posted 27/01/2023 at 14:59:26
Julian@149, Chris Wood is on loan at Forrest. Newcastle didn't need him or play him, he scored 3 goals for Burnley last season.
Cristobal Aguirre
158 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:02:06
confirmed. Everton is the stupidest team in the world. with Dyche the relegation is confirmed and the board let go the option of hiring Bielsa whose demands demonstrated his commitment to the future of the club and gave an honest assessment of our situation. If we continue with this board, the club will not only be relegated but will disappear
Colin Glassar
159 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:05:12
Darren, so he doesn’t start to get paid until Wednesday? Makes sense. No wonder other boards ask, what would Everton do? Genius
Ray Smith
160 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:05:33
Reading through most of the posts on this thread, I see and feel (with a few exceptions, as always) the majority ready to support and back Dyche.
Tony Abrahams precise of what we will be getting will do for me.
I’ve gone through our first team squad, and I see a group of guys who can play physically and mentally the Dyche way.
To me, our only consistent problem is injuries. I accept that every team have their fair share, but we do appear to have several sick notes.
No names, no pack drill, but they (3 or4) will either have to sign up too his philosophy or start looking for a summer move.
Good luck Sean, get your first 2 games under your belt to get the team to adjust to your tactics, and off we go.
If only it were that simple, but I’m sure we have the right man to get us out of this mess.
Jack Convery
161 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:06:48
He's not coming ! Marine have stepped in with a better offer. A free shopping bag and superquick access on all beers / spirits and wines to the offy on College Road.
Dave Lynch
162 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:07:38
I met Souness once, in Spain.

He was nothing more than a polite, if not straight talking individual. His love of the city was was very evident and I remember very clearly him saying that he loved the fact it was a proper football loving place.
It was a long time ago but he was an extremely amiable and engaging man who didn't have a bad word for Everton, just honest opinion.

Brian Harrison
163 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:09:46
So even if they announce tomorrow that Dyche is the new manager they are giving him just a couple of days to see who he needs and to get them into the club. This is exactly what they did with Lampard, so we never learn. Seeing as it took our DOF 2 weeks to get Danjumma for a medical and then still didn't get him, I hope Dyche isn't relying on our DOF to be any help in getting new players in before the window closes.

Every day that the new manager cant work with this squad is another day wasted. Apart from the compensation you get when you leave this club, I cant think what would entice anybody to become manager while this owner and board are in place.

Christy Ring
164 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:10:19
Agree with Ian Edward, but now that you’ve backed Dyche Ian, you’ll have to support the manager on the live forum?
Great to have Steve Ferns wealth of knowledge back, but Steve saying Bielsa was defensevly sound, it cost him his job at Leeds.
I believe Dyche was the only choice of the two, and for the anti brigade, he did a superb job at Burnley with limited funds, not that he has more money here, but he definitely can come good at a bigger club.
Craig Walker
165 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:15:20
Steve: Great knowledge and insight. Can't disagree with any of that.

I wonder if Bielsa had come what he would think of the likes of Gueye and Davies and their abilities to move the ball, given that he never fancied a player with the ability of Riquelme.

I think Dyche will work on the players' attitudes and get them giving everything. From where we are now, that's at least a start.

Paul Kossoff
166 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:15:46
Julian 151, Who?😀
Kieran Kinsella
167 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:16:03
Dyche name origin according to an onomatology website "Variant of Ditch. Originally refers to someone who dwells in a ditch."

Living up to his name.

Gary Russell
168 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:16:57
Here's our new man (apparently), showing his nous. . .


Joe McMahon
169 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:20:45
Kieran, to be fair (and it surprised me). Burnley /Dyche did sign Maxwell Cornet, only a few months after he slayed City in the Champions League.
Gary Russell
170 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:24:00
And some more


James Hughes
171 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:27:10
I wanted to ask where is Have Spuds hijacked this one as well but I was too slow. Colin G did that three quarters of an hour ago :)
Ray Smith
172 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:32:44
Brian 163

I understand that Moshiri is dealing direct with Amanda Stavely over Gordon!
Does this mean that the debacle with the Danjuma saga has pushed Thelwell nearer too the exit door?
It also feels to me that BK is playing less of a part in respect of transfers etc, which can only be good IMO, and if true, DBB being part of the interviewing process!

Danny O’Neill
173 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:33:26
I met Allardyce once. I hope I don't again.

Good luck to the new manager.

I support Everton. Always have and always will until as long as I can breathe. They frustrate me. They upset me.They make me fall out with the wife. They make my dogs unsettled (that's probably my fault). But they have given me some of the best moments of my life. And they will do again.

See you at the next one blue boys. Regardless of who is is in charge, it's always about us, the supporters. Always has been, always will be.

We love them. We live them.

Rob Baker
174 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:35:11
He should be given a free hit at the rest of this season. Should he keep us up, bonus! Then build on this for 2023-24. Should we go down, which is highly likely given the inadequate first XI and squad, then back him to get us back up first time of asking (which won't be that simple seeing as most of our big time charlies will ask to leave)
Jay Harris
175 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:39:45
Ale house football it is then.

Although to be fair a large proportion of posters seemed to favour Dyche so I'll take the ride for now.

The important thing was to act quickly and decisively and for Everton this is just that.

Lets hope the players buy into it and we see more confidence and determination from them.

We just need a couple more signings and sort out Gordon and Onana's situations and we'll be in better shape.

Frank for all his charm and sincerity was totally out of his depth so I can only see immediate improvements in team selection and tactics.

Steve Fern great to have you back and interesting in-depth analysis.

Andy Meighan
176 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:42:06
Could be another big Joe without the cup win. Personally I don't care what the football is like as long as he keeps us up. Big ask obviously but still doable.
Paul Tran
177 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:42:43
There's a good interview with Dyche on The High Performance Podcast from a year or so ago. Well worth a listen.
Kieran Kinsella
178 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:43:57

I guess it's Ale house with Dyche rather than Jail house with Dunc.

Raymond Fox
179 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:44:01
Thanks for that Jer 126, anybody watching that and having doubts about Dyche need to have their heads seen to.
I don't think any of our players will be unclear what they should be doing and what to expect if they don't.

As I have said all along he is perfect for where we are now and may be for the next few years.
The question is can we support the manager for a change, because to keep sacking managers after less than 12 months is crackers and no way forward.

Kieran Kinsella
180 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:45:59
Joe 169,

I wasn't meaning to say Dyche is of the ditch more so thinking the ditch is a good analogy for where he finds himself right now based on our league position.

Stefan Busby
181 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:48:38
Ale house football, it maybe mocked but at least its some 'form' of football given what we have witnessed this last 12 months.

Best appointment with what was available to us, he's got some bollocks.

Good luck to him.

Jamie Crowley
182 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:50:16
Thrilled with this appointment. Thrilled.

I wanted Frank to succeed terribly. Loved us hiring him. It all fell to shit. There's NO REASON WHATSOVER Everton should be in this position two years in a row. Disgusting and unacceptable.

Sean Dyche will, without question, steady this ship. We HAVE to stay up, we HAVE to have consistency at the managerial position in this club. We need a pair of hands that will see us through the storm to calmer waters. Sean Dyche is that man.

I know him well. My wife is a huge Burnley fan. I think Dyche is a vastly underrated coach who played a brand of footy at Burnley he simply had to play. I think at Everton he'll eventually play a "prettier" brand of footy, and he will be vastly more tactically astute than Lampard.

This is good news. I felt relegation was imminent. Now I feel we'll fight like hell to stay up, and favor us to do so.

Some of this shit won't be pretty. I don't fucking care. Stay up, then express yourself as a team moving forward. Dyche is literally perfect for the task at hand.

Zack Yusof
183 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:51:16
God I hate this club so much sometimes. A dinosaur manager for a dinosaur club. I’ll see myself out.
Phil Wood
184 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:51:19
Welcome Sean Dyche. Wish you all the best and think you are the best man for the job at hand.
Hope you are given funds and the opportunity to spend it before the window closes.
Disappointed that there are people here who are writing you off before you start. I am not one of them and think with the right type of support from the Board (Jesus!) you can turn things around. Just wish our next two matches weren't who they are as I wish you had an easier start.
Anyway good luck!
Paul Kossoff
185 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:52:39
All these back Dyche posts, what happens if we get battered by Arsenal's elite, then battered by the red shite, concede oh let's say, nine and none for. Do you back him still, or will it be, he's no idea get rid, he isn't good enough. He was sacked by Burnley for taking them into a relegation fight, and the owners thought he wasn't good enough to get them out of it, but he's good enough to get us out of the exact situation he was sacked for, really? Of course I'll still support my team no matter if we go down, but let's not expect too much from Dyche who had already took Burnley down.
Steve Brown
186 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:53:26
It won’t be announced today is what I am hearing.

But, it’s all agreed with Dyche.

Alan McGuffog
187 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:56:46
Everton...a team that can be awarded a corner and with four decent passes have the ball back with Pickford.
I was pretty shite in my day but played for an "ale house " team or two. We never once did that.
So, if ale house footy ensures our survival in the top flight then bring it on.
This School of Science bollocks ran out of steam decades ago
Stephen Vincent
188 Posted 27/01/2023 at 15:58:41
Danny #90, what will you be listening to 'Lying Eyes' or 'Desperado'? Or perhaps the last two verses of 'Tequila Sunrise'?

Take another shot of courage
Wonder why the right words never come
You just get numb

It's another tequila sunrise
This old world still looks the same
Another frame

Joe Corgan
189 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:02:04
Paul 185 - Sometimes teams just aren’t good enough to stay up. It doesn’t matter who the manager is. We might well be in that position ourselves at the moment.

It’s easy to say that Dyche took Burnley down. What about all the seasons in which he potentially kept them up? How many times did he have a direct influence in their survival? Truth is, we don’t know. But given their budgets and size, it was a minor miracle they lasted as long in the Premier League as they did. It could be argued he saved Burnley from relegation many more times than he failed. He also got them promoted twice. That might also come in handy too.

It’s probable none of us really want Dyche. We all wish we weren’t in a position where we need that kind of manager. But we are where we are and I’m personally not seeing any better options for the immediate task at hand.

Gary Russell
190 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:02:59
Paul K, indeed, but he kept them up for, what was it, 9 seasons? I am not overjoyed that we keep employing managers who have been relegated, but if he is our new man, then lets give him a chance. Check out his two videos I posted above. I am not calling any predictions, just that his ideas in the videos may just do move us in the right direction. There's no reason to think he might not. Time will tell, and it seems like a done deal, so lets gets behind the man.
Jim Lloyd
191 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:06:19
No surrender! That, and give them nowt but blows, coupled with hard, effective use of the ball and a fair amount of skill, will do for me.
What Tony said (123) makes it look as though we won't be anyone's poodles, to roll over and give in. It'll be more of in their face, defend from the front to the back, when we have to and attack as often as we can.

I wish him well, he's our manager. It won't be much use to do what has happened to other managers, because they weren't someone's choice. It's an 18 month battle now.
Bill Fairfield
192 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:06:29
Good luck to Sean Dyche,I hope he is an overwhelming success at our club. Looking forward to better results and not looking back.
Derek Knox
193 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:08:37
Jamie C @ 182, great to see you back too, bet your wife can give us more info (through you) on The Ginger Messiah ! :-)
Zack Yusof
194 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:13:05
Anybody else feel like throwing up? From Bielsa to Dyche, from the sublime to the ridiculous … so very Everton that is. One more embarrassment to take on the chin. Fuck it.
Colin Glassar
195 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:15:52
Why are all of Dyche’s assistants bald? Good to see you back, Jamie. Just need Gaynes to return as well.
Derek Knox
196 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:21:56
Colin @ 195, " Why are all of Dyche’s assistants bald? "

Hopefully, it's because grass doesn't grow on a busy street !

Or, they are Solar Panels for (Football Knowledge) powering the Great Escape !

Martin Farrington
197 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:24:54
Good luck to him
Geoff Lambert
198 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:25:38
Everton not announced Dyche yet!! No suprise there then. Or maybe Bielsa is still sitting on the toilet at finch farm making his mind up.
Barry Hesketh
199 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:28:30
Geoff @198
The Mail reporting that Dyche will be the manager, but the announcement will be made in the next 24 Hours - trying to secure his backroom staff, is likely why any official announcement hasn't yet taken place.
Stephen Vincent
200 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:38:07
I've been sent an awful lot of video clips over the last week or so, some funny (if you enjoy gallows humour), some sad, some poignant and some darn right offensive.

A few have really made me think - the CBS (I think) coverage of the end of the Leicester away game last season. The guy that sent it to me commented 'we don't want much do we? A couple of away wins a season the odd brilliant performance at home and the fans will absolutely adore you'.

Someone had dubbed a very soulful violin version of Z Cars over the band playing as the Titanic sinks, which actually brought a tear to my eye.

DK has just sent me video of a Member of Parliament asking questions in the House about our Usmanov links!

I didn't sign up for any of this. I will never ever forgive Kenwright for bringing my club so low, for bringing me to the point where I almost fell out of love with Everton FC. I read guys on here accepting that Dyche is the best we can hope for, he shouldn't even be on the long list, nor should Bielsa, a 67 year old Argentinian who can't speak English and has no intention of learning.

We should expect the best as the norm, we shouldn't have to celebrate beating Palace 3-2 at home or stay behind for 30 mins after the game ends at Leicester because it is our first away win in 8 months. Our new manager list should be inventive filled with guys who want to come and join us, we should have Zidane beating a path to our door for God's sake. Not being happy that we managed to persuade a manager, who was sacked by Burnley, to come and keep us out of the championship.

The level and severity of mismanagement at my club is what needs to be questioned and still the charlatans who 'run' the club sit there smug grins on their faces thinking that appointing Sean Dyche is the answer to our problems.

I despair I really, really do.

Roger Helm
201 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:41:01
Whatever you think about Dyche, he kept a Championship/League One club in the Premiership a long time, and even got them into Europe, which is more than we’ve done recently.

I don’t mind what sort of football we play at the moment so long as we stay up. There’ll be time to think about the School of Science later.

Mike Gaynes
202 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:45:16
Good stuff from Rob Smyth at the Guardian:

If all goes to plan, and when doesn’t it at Everton, Dyche will provide both a quick fix and long-term stability. It’s easy to imagine him staying for a decade, like David Moyes, and quietly overachieving with a team that takes pride in working hard and making life unpleasant for everyone who visits Goodison Park. Style of play may eventually become an issue, but at the moment that’s the least of Everton’s concerns. And Dyche may prove to be a cloth-cutter whose style evolves at a club with greater resources. Everton have tried all kinds of managers since Moyes left in 2013 – Big Cup-winners, firefighters, snake-oil salesmen – but Dyche could be the best fit of the lot. That’s good news for Everton, but it comes with one nagging reservation. If Ol’ Gravel Voice can’t sort Everton out, they might be beyond salvation.

Sums up my feelings. No, I cannot see him staying a decade, but he's the right man for this miserable job right now.

Glad Bielsa declined.

Steve Morgan
203 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:50:07
Dyche doesn't play bad football, he plays percentage football, which all good managers do.
It just so happens the burnley players weren't tricky, possession type players so he had to play to their strengths (hence, percentages).
Prior to McNeil growing a vagina, Dyche had him playing to his maximum. Same for the rest of that squad.

I for one am relieved that we've got him.

George Cumiskey
204 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:52:41
Dyche record against Everton P14 W6 D1 L7 not a bad record.
Bobby Mallon
205 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:54:05
I hope it not being announced is we get someone else I’m not sure about Dyche, but he gets my support if he is manager
Tony Abrahams
206 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:55:58
I don’t think he was anything more than a kid who liked Liverpool, in a similar way that loads of kids will now support Liverpool, City, Chelsea or United from afar Dennis. I won’t be bothering him Ken, I’d only end up arguing with him, if he didn’t listen to me, and yes Ian, we met when we were both at Forest, many years ago.

He was a scrawny midfielder, broke his leg, went on the weights whilst he was injured, filled out and had a decent career in the lower leagues, when he converted to a central defender. I remember his third division Chesterfield, getting robbed in a FA Cup semi final, at old Trafford against Boro, when he was their captain, and being gutted for him, because he had stayed in the game, and that would have been an incredible achievement.

I saw he was manager at Watford, and asked a Watford fan about him on holiday, because he had been dismissed for Zola, after doing a good job. He told me that Dyche had not deserved the sack, and had been very unfortunate.

He then went to Burnley, promotion and relegation followed, then another promotion, and he genuinely punched above his weight on a regular basis, (not like Moyes, who created a myth after finishing 4th imo) for a few seasons, before he finally dipped last year and got the sack.

We need pragmatism now more than ever, and Dyche’s sidekick, Ian Woan, who is only from the Wirral, was a very cultured footballer, and maybe he might bring Steve Stone, who also got the most out of himself, as a professional footballer, so hopefully after an initial pragmatic approach, he might do a good job, and show people he’s got a few more strings to his bow?

Let’s hope he keeps us up, Moshiri finally sells us, and we can suddenly begin to look forward to moving down to Bramley-Moore🤞 We will soon find out.

Steve Brown
207 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:57:15
Dyche will not be announced today, but the deal is done.
Mark Tanton
208 Posted 27/01/2023 at 16:57:23
These players need a foot up their arse, an arrest in the decline in standards and some clear direction. Dyche will, hopefully, be able to provide this. He has my support.
Steve Brown
209 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:01:31
Mike @ 202, I think Bielsa insisted on being a ball-boy until July.

A really eccentric bloke.

Dennis Stevens
210 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:03:21
Thanks, Tony. Although I asked about the rumour, I'm not really arsed about his youthful loyalties, tbh. The only thing that matters is what job he now does for the Club. I think he'll be alright.
Jonathan Oppenheimer
211 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:03:23
Jaime 182 wins the award for most excited anyone not a Burnley fan has ever been about Sean Dyche. I love it. We all need a ray of hope and sunshine and you’re there to provide it. I mean it with all seriousness, because if he can work even half the magic he worked at Burnley all those years and keep us up, he’ll go down in Everton history alongside Frank as managers we had to love and appreciate because the club itself is in such total shambles. Onward we go towards safety.
Nick Page
212 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:07:25
McNeil was excellent when he played against us for Dyche. I seem to remember him scoring a worldie too….so all may not be lost there. Does anyone have his stats pre Everton? Plus Dyche worked with another forgotten man in Keane. It’s more the soft as shite tackle shirkers like Iwobi that will struggle I think. Good luck Sean Dyche.
Neil Copeland
213 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:08:06
Hi Jonathan. I hope you and the family are well.

Yes, Jamie’s post made me smile too, wonderful stuff (thanks Jamie C!)

Good to see do many names back posting again with Jamie C, Mike Gaynes and Steve Ferns all back,


Terence Connell
214 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:11:33
We hope for the best. Dyche maybe a Moyes type manager but, perhaps, more tactically astute. He has beaten the best teams and Moyes never could. I’m not sure I could have taken Bielsa sitting on his bucket / potty on the touchline metaphorically expelling all of the shite that he would have seen on the pitch in front of him.
Brent Stephens
215 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:13:41
All we need now is a Royal Dyche pub sign, as in Burnley.
Jay Harris
216 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:13:51
Roger, last season was the second time Burnley have been relegated under Dyche but he did get them promoted twice.

I do believe he will keep us up but personally I would have preferred Corboran or Davide Ancelotti but who knows if they were approached or even interested.

The only positive for me is that Dyche really wanted the job and does at least have some knowledge of the Prem and the teams we face.

Anthony Jones
217 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:18:10
Lampard was trying to get us playing "good football", but the squad wasn't good enough to execute his plan.

Dyche is the ideal appointment for us right now.

Bielsa is a nutcase.

Tony Everan
218 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:19:22
Brent, The Dog and Dyche ?
Chris James
219 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:24:47
Absolute best option in the current dire circumstances.

We don't need another 'high concept' manager that will take months for the team to understand, we need a bit of dogs of war, to get some fight back in the team! Currently the team seem about as mentally strong as the average ToffeeWeb liveforum poster! Let's get the clogs on! Arsenal and Liverpool won't like it up 'em! ;-)

Dave Abrahams
220 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:25:36
Steve (109), welcome back Steve you always gave us something to think about,not having a go but why do you say “ We’ll lose the next two matches”? A new managers bounce, first one at home, the next one versus Liverpool who are struggling against everyone, don’t write them off so quickly, Franks gone, we lost a lot of games before they started with him in charge.

Frank was a very good nternational footballer, he wasn’t a very good manager like many good players, I saw Sean Dyche growing up as young player, he wasn’t outstanding but he was a team player, knew his job and stuck at it and made a good living out of the game, a much better living as a manager, ordinary players often make very good managers, maybe Dyche will be one for us, I don’t think he will be as poor as Frank Lampard was for us, is that even possible? Frank’s record with Everton puts him near the bottom of the list if not bottom.

Paul Tran
221 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:34:51
Anyone that pays any attention to what I say on here will know that I hope this is true. I've got plenty to say on this, but I'm not saying any more until it's officially confirmed. This is Moshiri/Krnwright's Everton, after all!
Derek Knox
222 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:37:54
Brent & Tony E, they could even have the Ale named after him ' Ginger Beer ' !

Oh, wait a minute !

George Cumiskey
223 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:40:44
Maybe Dyche can get a tune out of McNeil like he did at Burnley, now that would be a great start.
Roger Helm
224 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:40:47
Maybe Frank was too good a player to be a good manager. It must be frustrating to manage players not able to do the things you find easy.

There are not many top international players who become successful managers. Revie, perhaps and Clough before he was injured. Most of them came from lower league football, like Dyche.

Will Mabon
225 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:49:40
500 million-plus.
James Rodriguez.
Top of the league early season 2019.
New stadium being built.

Sean Dyche.

Colin Malone
226 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:59:14
Good luck Sean. If Bielsa doesn't get a job. I would love him to be in charge of our under 21s.
Iakovos Iasonidis
227 Posted 27/01/2023 at 18:05:53
I wish him and us all the luck of this world and beyond. It will be hard to get any tune out of this bunch of no character primadonnas we have for players.
Gerry Quinn
228 Posted 27/01/2023 at 18:11:15
Love reading about Sean Dyche's attitude towards Klopp and Redshite - I would imagine he will go down extremely well with our support if he can continue to piss that toothy German twat up as he has done on more than one occasion...https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-everton-sean-dyche-klopp-29066521
Jerome Shields
229 Posted 27/01/2023 at 18:23:09

The problem at Everton is that the ones that are making the decisions regarding the manager and players we need to get rid off. Someone like Bielsa with his expertise would get nowhere and would not be wanted. Dyche would bringx organisation and some discipline, enough hopefully for Premier League survival.

The real work would then have to be done to get rid of the leeches of progress and over the coming years provide an atmosphere conducive to the higher-level capabilities of Bielsa and Silva. The latter who was not strong to overcome the failings of Brands and interference from those that knew it all, but knew nothing.

Jonathan Oppenheimer
230 Posted 27/01/2023 at 18:36:09
Neil 213,

It's good to be back and I hope your family is doing well too. As I said on one of my few other recent posts, the football we had on offer was so poor this season, I didn't have anything constructive to say and it pained me to read endless despair.

Other than that Palace match and the false hope it provided, we probably should've known that things weren't looking great when we lost 4-0 to the mighty Minnesota United FC on that beautiful summer night.

But alas one of the many beautiful things about sport is that there will always be hope and true fans can never quit their club. And we ride the rollercoaster together. It ain't rock bottom yet, but we can't fall much farther, so I'm back to help us inch back up.

Lewis Barclay
231 Posted 27/01/2023 at 18:45:32
Outside of Gravyboat Sam, this is the most uninspiring appointment of our 33 managers in the last six years.

Which is why I think it will likely lead to a level of improvement that might fill us all with false optimism again.

I predict a Moyes like tenure.

John Williams
232 Posted 27/01/2023 at 18:48:13
The New Man should be telling our players that not only
on paper but in the real world they are better players than
the Southampton, Bournemouth, Leeds, Nottm Forest and one or two other teams.

They need belief and to play as a team which they can do.
There are enough games left to pick up the required points
and why should we be afraid to go to Liverpool these days?

John Raftery
233 Posted 27/01/2023 at 18:50:11
After the mayhem and despair of the last 6 years, a Moyes like tenure will be very welcome for the next few years.
Keith Meakin
234 Posted 27/01/2023 at 18:54:35
Come on the DYCHEster get this lopsided team playing.
Kim Vivian
235 Posted 27/01/2023 at 18:56:06
To all those who are saying why hasn't the DoF been the man to make the decision, whilst I trust he has been liberally consulted about the manager job, personally, rather than sitting interviewing Bielsa, Dyche, Ancelotti Jnr or whoever.

I would like to think he has been concentrating on finding a player somewhere on the planet that knows where the fucking goal is, can use it, and can be persuaded to come here if he's fucking bonkers enough.

Mark Ryan
236 Posted 27/01/2023 at 18:57:51
Once there was a manager

who had a wonderful idea

to grow a circular beard

that all other teams would fear

he grew a DISC BEARD


John Raftery
237 Posted 27/01/2023 at 18:59:46
The best managers usually have something to prove.

Howard Kendall was criminally overlooked for an England cap.

Mikel Arteta never played for Spain because they had the best midfielders in the world at the time.

Don Revie won only half a dozen caps for England.

Brian Clough's international career was curtailed by injury after only two caps.

Raymond Fox
238 Posted 27/01/2023 at 19:05:09
We are not making it easy for him, the relegation opposition are buying players right, left and centre while we sell one of our better players.

We had better get moving pronto or we are certain to struggle.

Nick White
239 Posted 27/01/2023 at 19:14:15
If Sean Dyche can organise and motivate our failing team, then I can see us being okay this season (with some last-minute additions). Get us hard to beat and practice set pieces and we could have a latter-day Dogs of War on our hands.

It won't be pretty but I'll support him. We must stay up, to go down will be a disaster for the club that could take many years to rectify.

I posted here last season just after Dyche had been sacked saying it was great news for us as he'd have kept Burnley up. No idea if he would have done, but after the new manager bounce they did go down (fortunately).

Zack, cheer up, you're an Evertonian, we will have to battle through. 😂🤞

Mike Price
240 Posted 27/01/2023 at 19:47:40
At least Dyche is a proper manager and gives us a fighting chance. If we do drop we’d be a good bet to come straight back up with him in charge.

I feel no gratitude whatsoever to Lampard. He was useless and incompetent but walked away with multi millions.

We stayed up despite him not because of him. The support base was incredible and we got lucky playing certain teams at the right time when they had nothing to play for.

Paul Birmingham
241 Posted 27/01/2023 at 19:57:46
If Dyche gets the job, he will get my total support, as now is the time to unify and try to get Everton up the table.

My own view on his football is that he's a tough taskmaster but results-driven and not good to watch but survival in this League must prevail.

Time to reset and the season starts now; hopefully Everton can get a couple of strikers and I'll say a few more players on the gauge, some players could be leaving Everton.

Hopefully some stability and hope to take forward in this fight to stay up.

17 games, and possibly a win rate of 7-9 games will be a huge task, but it's so tight at the bottom half of the table, it's wide open...

The gap can't grow so the next two games will give an idea if there's a new manager bounce.


Will Mabon
242 Posted 27/01/2023 at 19:58:24
Mark @ 236,

sounds like you're a fan of that disc beard. Go get yourself a can of tuna and you, too, can flex the cut.

Julian Exshaw
243 Posted 27/01/2023 at 20:12:14
I admit to being somewhat underwhelmed at Dyche's appointment and at the same time feeling somewhat surprised at the level of support his appointment has had on ToffeeWeb.

Fair enough, if you guys think he's the man for the job, that's more than good enough for me, and I will support him all the way. If he can get some passion out of these players and a semblance of a system, then he will deserve backing.

Over to you, Sean… and please spend the Gordon cash wisely!!

Joe Corgan
244 Posted 27/01/2023 at 20:17:24
Julian @243:

I think that's the general consensus. We could appoint Guardiola right now and still go down. No sense appointing a manager who wants us to play decent football, because our players are incapable. At least they're incapable of learning how to before we're relegated.

Dyche is a pragmatic appointment. I don't imagine he'll take us very far but he's maybe the best candidate to get us to 17th.

Mark Ryan
245 Posted 27/01/2023 at 20:21:46
Will @ 242,

I can't claim that as my own. That is from Bob Mortimer's Football podcast. So funny. He does a mean Sean Dyche.

Bill Gienapp
246 Posted 27/01/2023 at 20:22:39
I'm totally fine with this. It's not the most exciting hire.

Dyche is sort of like a jollier, more palatable Allardyce, but he knows how to organize things and grind out results. I'm not sure how people can post that they just want a hard-working side that fights for the shirt, then turn their nose up at this appointment.

Will Mabon
247 Posted 27/01/2023 at 20:40:57
Mark, saw it, that's how I knew can of tuna :-)
Mark Ryan
248 Posted 27/01/2023 at 20:44:29
Ha ha brilliant...Disc beard and Island Hair
Jamie Crowley
249 Posted 27/01/2023 at 20:49:17
This will be long... read or scroll as you see fit.

Firstly, thanks to everyone saying hello, or, "good to see you back" or the like. Good to "be back".

When things go to shit with Everton, there's a steady stream of, "We're shit. We suck. We're crap. Etc." I just wears on you. That constant stream of negativity when in reality we're 6 points off 13th. Yes, it HAS been unacceptable, sub par garbage. But the spleen-venting on TW sometimes just makes me swerve for a bit. I read, I choose not to post, it's just not worth it amidst all the poo-slinging posts.

That brings me to Frank Lampard. He's gone. It's easy to rip him one. But I prefer a different way to remember Frank.

Under Lampard I witnessed my single favorite moment as a Blue since 2007 when I was born, not manufactured.

The Palace game.

Down 0-2 after the first half. Somehow, some way, Frank motivated those boys to play their hearts out and ensure our Premier League survival. And what happened afterwards I'll never forget, ever. I don't cry for sports - there's WAY more important things in life. But that day I came damn, damn close.

The fans rushed the pitch, American college football style, and what I saw I've never, ever seen in all of sport.

It was a pitch invasion, but it was more than that. Now this may sound poetic as fuck, but for me it's accurate.

I saw an explosion of the human spirit. An unbridled joy that surely isn't superficial, but comes from the soul. Fans - ordinary men and women who see Everton as part of their identity and sewed into the fabric of their very being, celebrating an accomplishment. The expression of the human soul of happiness, it came from deep within, genuine beyond comprehension, and so palpable your could feel it emanating from anywhere in the world you viewed this bliss.

It was simply beautiful. I have no other word to describe it. And it was, and probably will always be, my favorite Everton moment.

I said to my wife, "THAT is what it means to be Blue. THAT is Everton. Anyone watching this knows this Club is brilliant."

Frank Lampard gave me that. He surely had help - Keane, Richie, Dom - but he was overseeing the squad. He gave me that ultimately.

So for me, he'll never receive a bad word.

That moment was absolutely priceless. And if Frank was overseeing that effort and subsequent celebration, then I'll remember that, and him fondly. I wish him luck moving forward, and thank him for always giving 100%, always speaking plainly and in a manner befitting Everton, and for that ridiculously special moment that exemplified the pinnacle of the human spirit through sport.

There you have it.

Peter Carpenter
250 Posted 27/01/2023 at 20:59:34
Barry (156) Wow, that's quite something. Might have to review my opinion of Mr Souness if he carries on like that.
Soren Moyer
251 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:01:09
Dyche is being reported as Kenwright's appointment. He apparently loves British coaches with "knife to the gone fight" philosophies!
Hugh Jenkins
252 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:01:11
Jamie - (249) Wonderful words Jamie - sums up the feeling perfectly.

Hopefully Sean can give us another one like that very, very, soon.

Joe McMahon
253 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:04:29
Will Mrs Dyche be as aesthetically pleasing as Mrs Lampard?
Lynn Maher
254 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:09:35
Jamie @249. I agree with your comments 100%.
Especially that night. It will stay with me forever.
Peter Mills
255 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:13:32
Jamie #249 - Hello. Excellent.
Joe McMahon
256 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:15:27
Jamie & Lynn, that was also my best night since the 95 Cup final. I was 25 then, and certainly not now, it just underlines the crumbs we have been served over the years.
Tony Everan
257 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:18:45
Joe, His wife and daughter are stunners, feminine and they have some similarities with Sean.


Joe McMahon
258 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:25:48
Ha ha, Tony Love it. I defo prefer Christine L.
Mike Gaynes
259 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:27:17
Jamie #182 and #249, amen.

Does it say something that the two dumb Yanks are the two happiest with this hiring?

Laurie Hartley
260 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:41:29
Steve Fearns - after reading your post I feel even more disappointed. I see it as a missed opportunity however I’ll get over it - I always do.

So Sean Dyche it is. I am an Evertonian so I will support him because sooner or later we have to stick with a manager. I hope he leads us out for the first game at Bramley Moore.

Shin pads eh Tony - not rolled up Echos? 😉

Derek Thomas
261 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:45:57
I just wish that along with Dyche would could have got Bielsa running the Academy.
Perfect Storm or Perfect Solution - we'll never know.
Paul Tran
262 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:46:05
Not just the Yanks who are happy, Mike. Let's get it confirmed first.
Brendan Fox
263 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:47:09
The most sensible and pragmatic choice was to go for Dyche.

Despite the derision by some on this thread about Dyche being an Ale House football manager he managed to get a Burnley squad to punch well above their weight for a good number of seasons in the PL.

For those that still think Dyche is beneath being warranted to be an Everton manager please watch the Coaches Voice links from Gary Russell earlier in the thread, Dyche comes across as someone who knows his shit and cuts his cloth accordingly.

Come on Sean get this rabble playing with some effort, intensity, togetherness and we may just see an escape from the current shit state we find ourselves.


Keith Barrett
264 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:51:17
I agree with Anthony A Hughes, Michael Lynch, Steve Brown, Raymond Fox, Brian Hennessy and Tony Hill.

After looking at Sean Dyche's background, I feel that he is the more credible appointment for the clubs current situation.

We need to give him time and a chance, I have more faith in Sean Dyche in helping us out, good luck Sean, you have my backing.

Tony Hill
265 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:54:08
Yes, Jamie (and Mike), you have been missed. Jamie, that is a very fine evocation of what it means, of our soul which is indestructible. I agree about Lampard: he meant it when he spoke about us.

I think Dyche is going to surprise us over time. Tell you someone else who's going to be significant for us : James Garner. Currently a bit forgotten but he has the hallmark.

Jim Lloyd
266 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:54:41
Stephen (200) I think a lot of us get smacked by despair, and really, it's a lot more often than we should.
You know more than many why we're where we are, top class supporters having to put up with the antics in the board room, ever since Howard left for the first time.
The last Quarter of a Century or more, though, have seen us on a one way slide down, with a bit of a plateau during Moyes tenure. There's one constant in all that time, with a hiccup during Roberto's first season.
It has been one long slog for all of us under the Chairmanship of Kenwright.

But now, it is a crisis time until Or if we get out of the trap of relegation. Yes, ordinarily we would be looking for the best managers when Sir John was in charge and we'd look forward towatching the best players come the best players.
First of all, hope springs eternal, even if it doesn't bounce very high at the minute. I read a thread about Moshiri looking for investment. Well, that give me the first glimmer of light and a hope it means the beginning of the end for Kenwright, and the sooner the better.

I got all those cuts of film of Derek and, some of them were ??? but some were really funny and lightened gloom a bit.

But first of all, the target is to win matches, or if not win, then draw and get away from the relegation zone. I think Sean Dyche can lead our players, especially if we get two or three good ones, away from the drop. If we do that, then we fight to get as high up the league as we can again. Stating the obvious but we are in a battle and that's it. I think this manager is a good choice for this battle. I've read how Tony A rates ahim and that gives me hope.

I feel sorry for Frank, I think he really wanted to do well for us, the supporters. Now, we look forward. I don't know if we'll get any points out of the first two matches. As long as those two teams know they've been in a hard game, that will be a start, if we get a point of either then that'll be a good result. Let's just see how we go in the next 4 months.

Colin Glassar
267 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:58:12
Have we got a manager yet?
Tony Everan
268 Posted 27/01/2023 at 22:04:00
Colin, we’re just hanging fire in case Tottenham decide they want him.
Mike Doyle
269 Posted 27/01/2023 at 22:08:13
Roger #224] Jack Charlton made the same point with regards to brother Bobby’s lack of managerial success.
Andy Crooks
270 Posted 27/01/2023 at 22:11:38
Best it can be for me. Our only chance to stay up and I believe we will. Surely there will be some kind of revival and once a roll starts who knows whst might happen.
Good luck Sean Dyche.
Jeff Armstrong
271 Posted 27/01/2023 at 22:13:44
Derek 261, great idea, but that would involve joined up forward thinking, and money.
Unfortunately we have neither, but we did have the money a few years ago, but not the nous.
Derek Powell
272 Posted 27/01/2023 at 22:30:23
That's me done with the whole fuckin mess 61 years and we go from one calamity to the next the clubs rotten at the core and no matter what changes are made it's the same ending same excuses same people
Nick Strong
273 Posted 27/01/2023 at 22:43:08
We should have sacked Lampard after Bournemouth hammerings before the World Cup.
It was clear to see then that he was never going to be able to get us going.
If the board knew what they were doing they could have got bielsa and his team in and have time to condition the players mentally and physically so that we would have a chance of staying up.
If we go down you’ve got to say it’s down to not being quick enough to react to the situation.
Oliver Molloy
274 Posted 27/01/2023 at 22:43:13
Could Dyce turn us down?
Danny Baily
275 Posted 27/01/2023 at 22:43:32
Derek 272, at least the ending will probably be different this season.
Rob Halligan
276 Posted 27/01/2023 at 22:50:08
Derek # 272………SEE YA!
Brent Stephens
277 Posted 27/01/2023 at 22:52:46
Rob, too late, he's gone.
Jim Lloyd
278 Posted 27/01/2023 at 22:57:32
Don't give up yet, Derek. See how this 2nd half of the season pans out. If we get through and stay in the Prem, then I feel sure the American, Quaiti investment will begin to shift the blockage in our progress. Just half a season then see, it might change drastically by then. Then the feller who has put the black spot on us for 30 years, may well be booted out.
Rob Halligan
279 Posted 27/01/2023 at 23:07:05
Shit, Brent……can’t somebody go and knock on his door and beg him to re-consider? No… oh ok then!
Jamie Crowley
281 Posted 27/01/2023 at 00:09:58
Colin back at 195 and Derek Knox at 196 -

As my "mate", Steve Ashcroft, Everton Academy graduate and friend used to say about his bald dome:

"Mate! Not bald! It's a push button for sex!"

Mike Gaynes
282 Posted 28/01/2023 at 00:34:27
Tony #265, amen to that too. I was ecstatic when we got him after watching him in last year's Championship promotion playoffs. I consider his injury an underrated disaster for the club. Back injuries are iffy, but if healthy he's going to be a key for us.
Julian Exshaw
283 Posted 28/01/2023 at 00:41:40
Jamie @249 great post. That was quite a night. I still think DCL didn't get enough credit for that great header. Welcome back but I knew you hadn't gone far !!
Stuart Sharp
284 Posted 28/01/2023 at 00:48:32
People calling Dyche underwhelming or a dinosaur etc. are not only being harsh on a guy who took Burnley to Europe, they are delusional about where we are as a club just now. Dyche is a leader, an organiser, and a guy whose players bust a gut for him. He gets the best results from what he has to work with. Do people really think he'd play 442 hoofball with, say, City's squad? Burnley sometimes played anti-football, but not always. It's just been very hard for Dyche to shake off that image. Yes, he got the sack in a season they went down, but if you only judge a manager by what happened at the end of their last job, you'll almost always be focusing on a sacking.

Obviously, I'm not expecting pretty football just yet, and Christ alone knows whether he can keep us up, but I am expecting a fight, and the return of some pride. In my view, this is a very sensible appointment.

Zack Yusof
285 Posted 28/01/2023 at 01:29:36
Nick #239 After 40 plus years of unwavering support, I finally feel that I no longer need or want to continue giving my all to get behind an incompetent, comedy club that obviously doesn’t give a shit about its fanbase or progressing as a forward thinking entity. I’ve never been more embarrassed to be an Evertonian than now so fuck it, why bother? I’m done with being on a downer about EFC all the time and having my weekends ruined. Life’s too short. Dyche is an inferior Allardyce, an inferior Benitez with a voice to make your toes curl so fuck that for a game of soldiers. School of Science my arse.
Anthony Dwyer
286 Posted 28/01/2023 at 01:30:01
I wanted Dyche and very much did not want Bielsa, but the more I'm hearing on what Bielsa's plans was the more I'm thinking this guy could have been what we needed.

Dyche is the best man for the job if the job is remaining in the Premier League, but he should take some of what Bielsa had planned into account himself and follow a bit of his ideas.

Mainly because staying in the Premier League has basically been my main priority but, if Dyche buys players like Ryan Fraiser (who has been touted), then we only have more of the same to come for the next 4 or 5 years, the exact same as what we've endured for the previous 4 or 5 years.

Eventually, we have to make a big change right through the club, literally from top to bottom. Start by buying youngsters, hungry lads who want to make a career, want to make their mark in football, and putting a lot of faith in the U18s and U21s etc.

I know we have Kevin Thelwell but, if Bielsa ever considered an upstairs style role, I'd have him under serious consideration.

Don Alexander
288 Posted 28/01/2023 at 01:59:47
Jeezus H, I really do admire the dedication so many of us show in minutely prophesying what may or not unfold under Dyche, Bielsa, Cobbleigh and all.

Every single one of us, and all the personnel at Everton, have been drawn inexorably closer for decades to the vortex of relegation in the maelstrom mania that's infested our club as owner and manager for all of this century, and more.

How many years more – and now it will definitely be years more given the gross ineptitude of Moshiri already – do we have to endure the eternal dross we've frankly chosen to endure for decades?

Kieran Kinsella
289 Posted 28/01/2023 at 03:52:41
Zack, Derek, Cristobal and other Sean Skeptics,

There's two sides to this. Our side and his. The Premier League is ruthless. People like Curbishley punch above their weight for years, have one bad experience, and their career is over. George Graham, unpopular at Spurs, fired; career over.

Realistically, Frank Lampard is finished as a Premier League manager unless he can find a lower league team and get promoted back there.

So Sean Dyche, who has a remarkably similar record to Eddie Howe, is taking a huge risk taking on the 19th-placed, impoverished team that fire managers every 12 months. If he fails, he won't get another Premier League job.

He could have easily sat on his hands and waited on an easier opportunity to come along. No job is tougher than Everton. It's ruined lots of good managers. But he's taken a chance on us.

I don't want to hear “it's about money” as he's no pauper and could have found a comfortable wage in the Championship or elsewhere if money was tight. But instead, he obviously feels strongly that he can make a success of this. So I think we should give the guy a chance.

Jerome Shields
290 Posted 28/01/2023 at 06:30:57
Whilst Dyche is a good appointment, it reflects the desperate situation that Everton are in. The club has relegation standard written all over it. Something that would result in financial disaster for the club. In this situation, Dyche provides two necessary attributes: disciplined organisation and simple boring football.

To become even midtable, Everton need a complete overall of the management of the club, which would mean the removal of underperforming management and the installation of accountability at all levels and winning objectives.

The Dyche appointment suits the current management. In the short-term, Dyche could preserve Premier League status, but that will be the height of the club's achievement. Since the present club management are purveyors of football mediocrity and are the main threat to the club's financial existence.

The present Everton situation and how it came about is an absolute disgrace.

Dave Carruthers
291 Posted 28/01/2023 at 07:39:19
Have just read through this thread. My take is that is mainly positive, may be desperate positivity, but I suspect Dyche will get the full support of the fans.

I hope this does put off the over overriding need to completely overhaul the upper echelon. I genuinely hope/think the Board can not show their faces at Goodison again (or miraculously emerge at Bramley-Moore Dock for the opening of teh new Everton Stadium! 😡)

Two outstanding posts on here;

Jamie (249), beautifully written and captured. I was watching here in South Africa (first game 1965) and looking back objectively I doubt if any game has impacted me the same, apart from maybe the Inchy semi-final winner in ‘84. Live vs TV will always influence but….

Steve (109). An evocative and thought-provoking piece. I would emphasise I am comfortable with Dyche but everything I have read indicates Bielsa could have been the rocket the club needed. Guess we will now never know.

Critically I have read that Bielsa came with a positive mindset, went well with Moshiri on first interview, but all seemed to turn when he met Kenwright. (Back to many previous points, what right or credentials has he got to be involved in such a key decision?)

Could that be that he could see his trainset disappearing, or Bielsa immediately sussed out he wouldn't get the control he wanted - plus interference from inherently incompetent senior management? Again, we will never know.

So, after the utter shambles of the last 6 weeks (I loved Frank but either of these two could have been appointed 8 weeks ago – even 1 week ago) and with the possibility of no additions, let's recreate the siege mentality of last season and give Sean full support.

He is ideal for a 4-month scrap and, as has been indicated, his Burnley team at times played some very nice football.

I pray he can bring in some long-term structure that allows a positive start in the new Everton Stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock. Plus, at a wider level, solid investment and a thorough overhaul at the top, bringing in proper football and commercial savvy management. Know all that will need patience.

My hope (only) of the last 6 weeks has finally had some expectation added in. Let's hope Arsenal's new-found losing streak continues next week… (Joe Royle's first home game as manager, anyone!!)

If nothing else, I think the atmosphere will be fantastic and hope the Board help by staying away again!


Kenn Crawford
292 Posted 28/01/2023 at 07:42:54
Sorry, guys, he got Burnley relegated. He will not save us – a very bad decision in my humble opinion... but what do I know?

Come to think of it, about the same as our last 7 managers! 😂

Danny O’Neill
293 Posted 28/01/2023 at 08:27:19
Jamie @249. That's from the heart mate.

I, like many have watched Everton win league titles, FA Cups and a European trophy. I've followed and continuously follow them endlessly.

I've experienced great times watching us win trophies. The journey back from Norwich in 1987 will never leave me even though I recall very little of the match itself.

Kings of Europe in waiting.

But that night last season was special. An outpouring of emotion by supporters who this club mean everything to and always will.

The new manager will get everyone's support. Because we support Everton.

There are only two I can think of that didn't. But even then, we were still behind the team.

Managers come and go. We are always here, always have been and always will be.

I know where I want real change and it won't come through continuously changing the manager.

But let's get them over the line again.

John Keating
294 Posted 28/01/2023 at 08:29:02
Want him or not I sincerely hope everyone gets fully behind the new manager and pray he can get these players to pull us out the hole they helped create

If we do go down then I think he is the most likely manager to get us straight back up because if we don’t we’ll be down there a while

Bob Martin
295 Posted 28/01/2023 at 08:35:47
Dave 291,

The only way we have a chance is if “everyone” sticks together over the next 4 months! What good is the board staying away going to do the team, new manager and players? We need to get behind the team and leave all this nonsense aside for another day!

The behavior of some fans at recent home games has been disgraceful. Although I am happy that Gordon has gone and it's a good deal for us, it saddens me that he probably made his mind up about leaving the day the fans faced him up and abused him in his car.

It should never come to this!

Support the whole club and see where it takes us, Good luck Sean.

Andy Mead
296 Posted 28/01/2023 at 08:47:52
This appointment is the exact reason we are where we are. Switching footballing philosophies constantly. From trying to play pass and move, to defensive hoofball, to keep it at the back at all costs… and now this type of appointment.

Obviously our DoF, whoever it is, hasn't had any input at all. Dyche will recruit his type of player and it all just continues. What a mess!

John Belshaw
297 Posted 28/01/2023 at 09:08:30
Still no announcement of player signings or a managerial appointment by this supine, poorly run club.

If the latest managerial does turn out to be Sean Dyche, it's a totally underwhelming choice.

And how many players do Everton need to sell before they can enter the transfer market? Make no mistake, without quality additions, at least 3 or 4 players, the club look likely to be relegated.

What decent player would come to the club in its present state anyway? The Kevin Thelwell signings in the last transfer window have been mediocre. I assume that they were his and Lampard's signings – but who knows?

What a terrible state Everton Football Club are in!

Allan Corken
298 Posted 28/01/2023 at 09:14:42
Bob Martin @295:

Gordon decided to leave when Chelsea came calling in the Summer; from then on, he has had in his head an exaggerated sense of his own ability. Unfortunately that has not manifested itself on the pitch this season.

I also suspect his inflated opinion stretches to hairstyling as there can be no other excuse for the pompadour he is sporting. Unless, Bob, he has taken a couple of those tablets you were once famous for – they would have the same effect.

Kim Vivian
299 Posted 28/01/2023 at 09:24:37
Sean Dyche philosophy – a poster on the dressing room wall at Burnley...

If you think you're beaten, you are;
If you think you dare not, you don't;
If you like to win, but think you can't...
...It's almost certain you won't;
If you think you will lose, you will have lost;
For throughout the world you will find
success begins in a player's mind.

One could argue the merits of it, but certainly a few of our players should heed this mantra.

I'm not the most excited I've ever been with an appointment, but it looks like he is one of us now. I will be behind him however, and look forward to his full baptism as an Evertonian when we beat Arsenal.

Winston Williamson
300 Posted 28/01/2023 at 09:37:17
Dyche will organise the team, keep it simple, play percentages. To be fair, he'll struggle with even this unless his first few signings are on the nail.

After this, it depends where we finish. If we avoid the drop, a fresh season will likely see the aim of consolidation. Something to build on. After that, style will be expected.

If we drop, a complete rebuild will be needed, whilst having the fan and financial pressure of needing immediate promotion.

Tough job here. Especially when you factor in who the bosses are!

Tony Everan
301 Posted 28/01/2023 at 09:40:49
Plenty of rumours Newcastle's deadwood Ryan Fraser is coming this way, they are saying, and want you to believe, it's not part of the Gordon deal.

Last three seasons Premier League form: 53 games 2 goals 5 assists

Salary reported to be £63,000 pw.

We need two players who can bring goals to this team, we cannot score. We need to do much better than this on the goals front to give us the best chance.

Derek Knox
302 Posted 28/01/2023 at 09:52:22
I agree that Everton are dragging the announcement out, when time is surely of the essence; then again, did we really expect any sort of competency from them?

Tony E, I read that too, we were offered Ryan Fraser from Bournemouth when he had a dispute either with the club or Eddie Howe; ironically we will now probably be paying for him, should it materialise. You couldn't make this shit up, could you?

The sooner we are rid of this Board, the better, but keep the powder dry for now, let's concentrate on backing the new manager; Premier League survival is key to our future.

Also read that he has asked for 3 to 4 new signings with the Gordon money – hope so, and that they are the right signings too, but won't hold my breath.

Neil Thomas
303 Posted 28/01/2023 at 10:21:43
We need to be looking at championship players who can score goals, but are not guaranteed to be going up. The Coventry lad, and the Blackburn lad would have been our best bets. We have to be realistic, that our days of looking for top class strikers are gone.
Paul Hewitt
304 Posted 28/01/2023 at 10:31:01
Dyche doing media duties at FF today, no announcement till Monday apparently.
Colin Glassar
305 Posted 28/01/2023 at 10:31:13
Ian Ladyman’s article in the daily mail unmasks the absolute chaos and dysfunctional state of affairs at Everton. It’s the scariest thing I’ve read since The Exorcist as a 12 year old.

Kenwright is the cancer and Moshiri is the virus. Together they are the perfect malady which has almost killed the patient. Dark days ahead indeed.

Iain Johnston
306 Posted 28/01/2023 at 10:34:47
Thank Christ it's not the 1980's. Kevin Sheedy would be getting dogs abuse on here.

Came from the RS and in his 10 year Everton career managed to score more than 5 league goals a season - with more games to play, in half of them.

Lee Whitehead
307 Posted 28/01/2023 at 10:49:21
We know where we are (Shite) but FFS lets get behind the new manager and cut out all the negativity.
Never known a site talk as much crap as the people on here.
Whats gone is gone we can't change the past - move on people.
Steve Dowdeswell
308 Posted 28/01/2023 at 10:54:15
Maybe Dyche will see past the shite that is currently the first team including DCL and Maupay ang give some of those recalled aspiring and inspiring young guns a run out.
Who knows what they might achieve having a point to prove to the coaches.
And if they fail they won't have done any worse than those cashing in their £100K weekly pay cheques.
Ray Smith
309 Posted 28/01/2023 at 11:20:02
Lee 307

Wise words Lee 👍

Colin Glassar
310 Posted 28/01/2023 at 11:25:03
Lee, those who don’t learn from the past are doomed to relive it - Santana (and not Carlos btw).
Neil Lawson
311 Posted 28/01/2023 at 11:30:50
Do you remember the glorious days when the first we knew of a new player or new manager was the moment they were announced as having signed ? I gather Dyche ( Duchess ) not announced as too busy working on signings. So, if no signings then he too may walk away ? Truly kids stuff from our wonderful board.
Rian Magee
312 Posted 28/01/2023 at 11:42:12
@Lee 307

Couldn't agree more. Some of our fans are the only reason Id ever consider stopping supporting the team. Never bloody happy with anything. If we'd landed Simone as manager they'd be crying 'ffs no. He has no premier league experience, we're down'. News flash, it's 2023, not the 1980s, we're not the dominant force in domestic football. Some people on here have a dellude sense of entitlement, that we have the pull to attract the best managers and players the world has to offer. Simple fact is, we don't. The past is gone, we are where we are and we need to pull together and support the next manager, regardless if we go down or not we need stability.

I for one am happy if it's Dyche. He worked wonders at Burnley, they were a nightmare to play against for so many teams and they played with fight, grit and spirit, something we haven't done consistently in years.

He's alot more tactically astute than I think a lot of people give him credit for. He takes no shit and can see him being a strong character that can galvanise the team and put a boot up the holes of anyone not pulling their weight. Read or listen to a lot of his interviews, the man has a damn good footballing brain and seems like a natural leader and influencer.

I can see this being dogs of war part 2 and I'd rather grind out 1-0 or 2-1 wins than play attractive, fluid football (we don't have a squad capable of that anyway) and get battered 5-2. Let's get organised, battle hardened and get some fight and pride back first. I think Dyche is the perfect man to instill some of the qualities and commitment a lot of our players have sorely lacked for far too long.

Ray Smith
313 Posted 28/01/2023 at 11:45:44
Neil 311
I have just posted a message echoing your post on the Gordon thread.
Keep BK away from Dyche at least until the window closes.
Larry O'Hara
314 Posted 28/01/2023 at 11:56:01
Colin (310) I think you’ll find the quote was Karl Marx, who said those who don’t learn the lessons of history are condemned to repeat them, the first time as tragedy the second as farce. Sadly, Everton may have it the other way round: the farce being Billy BS Kenwrights regime, the tragedy being relegation. Hope not though…
Andy Duff
315 Posted 28/01/2023 at 12:01:10
I'm sure if we delved into the ToffeeWeb archives there would be numerous posts about how bad a manager Eddie Howe is how we should not appoint him. He's now lauded as the one that got away... hindsight is a great thing.

The reason Dyche is getting so much stick are the same reasons Howe did.

I think he's probably the perfect manager for us at the moment. Despite their form we do have some really good players, a lot better than those he worked with at Burnley. The right manager will get a tune out of these. Maybe DCL told to stay in the box like Carlo told him, maybe McNeil played the way he should be delivered crosses to DCL. Back to basics a reset.

My only concern is we may run out of time and games as this won't be an instant fix.

Longer term I could see us evolving with him. He's not the tactical dinosaur he's made out.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing where this goes. He's a far better appointment than Bielsa or Allardyce

Martin Mason
316 Posted 28/01/2023 at 12:01:44
If it is to be Dyche, I have to say that I admire the guy. The only one who would take the job, what a claim to fame that is. To be fair he's as good a chance to be successful as anybody else we've had post Moshiri. He may not keep us up but he may be the man to get us back up. Maybe he won't take crap from the board. We need to see pigs flying and maybe he can make this happen.
Iain Johnston
317 Posted 28/01/2023 at 12:05:02
Rian @312 exactly right.
Bill Fairfield
318 Posted 28/01/2023 at 12:09:47
Let’s hope Sean Dyche can change the culture at our club. Many have tried under this owner and board,but all have failed.
Daniel A Johnson
319 Posted 28/01/2023 at 12:19:00
Rian @312 great post 100% this.

Lets get behind Dyche he's no mug and could be a great manager for us.

Colin Glassar
320 Posted 28/01/2023 at 12:23:50
Larry, I think Marx nicked it from Santana but it’s a great, and true, quote from who ever said it.

If Dyche signs that poisoned dwarf, Ryan Fraser, that’s it for me. He couldn’t get a game at Bournemouth, can’t get a game at Newcastle, has a reputation as a changing room arsehole. He’s shite. I’m done.

Dyche out!!!

Bob Martin
321 Posted 28/01/2023 at 12:30:21
Allan 298
His coat is rather nice ! Ha
Gary Russell
322 Posted 28/01/2023 at 12:43:10
Mr Kenwright singing?


Paul Mannix
323 Posted 28/01/2023 at 12:43:10
Rian 312. Completely agree. Past is past. Let’s get behind the man and instill some grit and determination into the team.
Any idea why it’s all taking so long for confirmation. Spurs haven’t decided to get rid of Conte have they !!!
Mark Ryan
324 Posted 28/01/2023 at 13:01:06
C'mon Sean, get to Goodison and raise that Blue & White scarf above your head, old school styley !!
Colin Malone
325 Posted 28/01/2023 at 13:09:59
Everton new motto.
Romae non per diem. Rome wasn't built in a day. Sorry, our offices are now closed. Tuesday. Transfer deadline day and still, everything stops for the weekend, for the chosen few.
Paul Hewitt
326 Posted 28/01/2023 at 13:11:20
I remember a few years ago when Eddie Howe was a name mentioned about being our manager. Plenty on here(including me) saying" don't want him, he's not good enough, can't defend". Well that same Eddie Howe now has Newcastle 3rd in the PL with the best defence in the league. Also within touching distance of going to wembley. Not saying Dyche will be that good for us, but let's give the guy a chance.
Rob Halligan
327 Posted 28/01/2023 at 13:14:27
Dyche at Finch Farm now, putting the final touches to a 2½-year deal.
Joe McMahon
328 Posted 28/01/2023 at 13:23:25
Rian @312, I

couldn't agree more. But it's not just Bill that lives in the past, you are correct.

Everton are not a force or pull, and haven't been for decades. If Kings Dock had been our stadium for over 10 years things may be a bit different in 2023, but we will never know.

Kevin Molloy
329 Posted 28/01/2023 at 13:45:12
I still can't believe this hopeless hopeless club held onto Lampard for as long as it did.

From the first game of pre-season, he was stinking the place out, then home loss to Tuchel, away loss to Gerrard, both of whom were sacked a couple of weeks later cos they were getting whacked by everyone else.

Seven goals conceded to bottom club Bournemouth, the losses at home to all our relegation rivals. If the change had been made after Bournemouth, as it should, we'd be comfortably mid-table now.

If we do go down, this relegation is 100% the fault of the people who run the football club.

Derek Knox
330 Posted 28/01/2023 at 13:45:53
Rob, thanks for that, but still doesn't leave much time to get anyone in or out, assess the squad, settle in and prepare for Saturday. What a Board of Amateurs.
Phil Sammon
331 Posted 28/01/2023 at 14:16:54
Kevin @ 329

So you’d have sacked him after the first pre-season game would you?

I detest the Everton hierarchy but they have tried sacking underperforming managers and it hasn’t exactly worked out great.

I probably would have pulled the trigger on Frank earlier but surely you can understand why they would want to at least try show faith in a bloke in the hope he can turn it around.

I don’t really see Lampard’s hiring and firing as a dramatic failing by the board. For me the real damage was done well before the threat of relegation. The hiring of managers with a completely different philosophy to the last. The two Chairman, a DOF and a manager somehow conspiring to sign three number 10s in one transfer window. The selling of top players and replacing them with overpriced shite.

The list really does go on. But this particular decision seems pretty ok to me. They tried to back him until they couldn’t. Fair do’s.

Ian Pilkington
332 Posted 28/01/2023 at 14:19:08
Colin @305

The article missed the point, as with similar ones in other media outlets, that Kenwright has been the root cause of our decline for over a generation; they only look at the Moshiri era. Nearly all of today’s football correspondents simply don’t remember that we were - and still should be - an elite club.

In his column today, Graeme Souness, of all people, calls it a calamity that a club of our heritage is in such a precarious position thanks to the incompetence of the board, but of course he does remember when we were winning trophies.

Joe McMahon
333 Posted 28/01/2023 at 14:21:33
Ian, I'm not bitter about past Liverpool players, many of them are winners. And yes Greame Souness often talks a lot if sense.
Alan J Thompson
335 Posted 28/01/2023 at 14:31:03
While hoping he is a great success I can't shrug the feeling that the people who haven't got it right in about half a dozen attempts have got it wrong again. The nagging doubt that keeps coming back is who you would employ and would have the necessary qualifications if you wanted to be relegated.
Kevin Molloy
336 Posted 28/01/2023 at 14:39:30

yes, when we got whacked by Adrian Heath's Allstars four nil I did sit up. I wouldn't have wanted him sacked at that point, but it rang an alarm bell. I am surprised you think we were right to hold onto him for as long as we did. Look at our rivals, Gerrard was doing better than Lampard when he got the bullet months before Frank. Same with the soton manager. And as well as the results, Lampard has been making it clear in his interviews for weeks that it was all over. 'I'll never stop trying, I'll keep going whatever', just code for 'I aint resigning, so get your cheque book out Farhad'. And yes, this 2-3 month delay has really cost us. It wasn't a reasonable position to find yourself in, you could see this trouble coming from a mile off.

Karen Mason
337 Posted 28/01/2023 at 14:47:42
Wikipedia is showing Sean Dyche as Everton manager. Yet, still no announcement from our club?
When players find out from Talkshite that their manager has been sacked tells you just how badly our club is run.
'Nough said!
Paul Birmingham
338 Posted 28/01/2023 at 14:52:25
Kim @299, thats, from a good poet, Walter D Wintle.

I’ve used that in life, on TW and Blue Kipper for donkeys years, and fits the Dyche mindset.

Let’s hope this announcement when done, can start this season, at just past the half way point.


Paul Kossoff
339 Posted 28/01/2023 at 14:57:13
This is yesterday's news. Any updates on this? Nothing on the BBC web site, I would expect their to be by now. Also nothing on Gordon's transfer. Apparently the cheeky get turned up at Finch farm yesterday, possibly to pick his toys up that he threw out of his pram.
Paul Birmingham
340 Posted 28/01/2023 at 15:07:30
I remember when HK, started and he brought in Ainscow, Biley and Mike Ferguson.

Fraser, done OK for a time at Bournemouth, and I recall he then had contract issues and refused to play.

Based on the wingers already in the squad, I don't see Fraser, making Everton any better.

But Dyche has his ways, and Everton and Dyche, to win the second half of this season.


Tom Bowers
341 Posted 28/01/2023 at 15:09:06
We all know the task ahead and the headaches Dyche will inherit. He probably has an even bigger task than Lampard had a year ago because he has very little as a strike force.

Goals win games and it's hard to see any in the next two games at least against Arsenal and RS.

Unless the money for Gordon can be used expeditiously then the struggle will continue.

We all know when your down everything seems to go against you but with 18 games left it's not hopeless just yet.

If a better understanding can be achieved when they are not in possession then they may be able to pick up some points against strong sides like they did against Man.City.

Up to now they have been very untidy when defending and it has made other mediocre teams look good.


Dermot O'Brien
342 Posted 28/01/2023 at 15:17:07
The delay is something to do with a row over the Blood Brothers tickets.
"I'm not going to any poxy musical"
"It's not just any musical, it's mine (dramatic bow)
"F*** off Bill will ya"
Colin Glassar
343 Posted 28/01/2023 at 15:17:30
Fraser is a Scottish Aaron Lennon ie headless chicken. He’s not as bad as mcgeady but he’s from the same stable.

Ian 332, he still laid bare kenshite for what he is, a fraud!! Also his refusal to sell until he found a mug who would let him stay.

These two are a match made in Hell.

Paul Kossoff
344 Posted 28/01/2023 at 15:20:32
Colin G 305, 👎👎👎👎👎
Bill Gall
345 Posted 28/01/2023 at 15:29:38
To me this appointment although needed is just papering over the cracks, hopefully
he will get us out of trouble but it still does not solve the major problem that caused this lowest point in the Clubs membership in the premiership. Hope that we don't let up on the owner and board who caused this problem in the first place, and are now using this change of manager as an excuse.
Mark Taylor
346 Posted 28/01/2023 at 15:43:42
We seem to be making a habit of appointing managers with only a day or two left in the transfer window having already sold big, then scrabbling around with hours to go to find someone. Is this intentional or just ineptitude.

Is Thelwell on top of our transfer business, poised to pull rabbits from a hat, or is he hacked off he seemed to have had no say in the new manager?

The best business always tends to be done early in the window, not at the end when others can smell your desperation

Paul Newton
347 Posted 28/01/2023 at 16:02:24
I'm getting worried now. How long is this appointment going to take??
Derek Knox
348 Posted 28/01/2023 at 16:04:14
Paul B @ 340, now there's a trip down Memory Lane, they were part of the ' Magnificent 7 ' as the papers labelled it at the time. The others if memory serves were Jim Arnold, Neville Southall, Mike Walsh and Mickey Tomas. May be wrong there but stand to be corrected if so.

He (HK) didn't have it all a bowl of cherries early doors, but that win at Oxford United kicked the whole thing off, which is why, different era I know, Dyche has to be given a decent run to show his worth. After all said and done it isn't his fault he has inherited a basket case in the asylum, run by the lunatics.

One Flew Over The Bramley Moore Dock !

Peter Carpenter
349 Posted 28/01/2023 at 16:17:11
Bill is now into his fourth hour of tales from the Boy's pen. They will announce when he has finished (if Dyche is still there and not doing 90 up the M1 back to Nottingham).
Tony Hill
350 Posted 28/01/2023 at 17:20:03
Troy Deeney's comments on Dyche are worth reading. I admire Deeney for his football and for the way he has dealt with his life and there are some telling details about Dyche as a man. We should not underrate him at all.

Barry Hesketh
352 Posted 28/01/2023 at 17:30:20
Paul @351

Fake news? Until the OS has him pictured with a scarf, I won't believe it.

Seriously, I don't understand why everybody is so concerned that he hasn't yet been presented publicly, so long as he's signed the contract and he's busy trying to bring in new players, that's alright for me… not bloody Ryan Fraser though!

Paul Birmingham
353 Posted 28/01/2023 at 17:31:43
Uncanny Derek, it's like a few years ago.

Hopefully Everton can stick together and move up the League. Dyche will be up for this battle but he needs support from Thelwall, as there's a couple of days left in this window

There's hope now, and hopefully some new players in soon.

Derek Knox
354 Posted 28/01/2023 at 17:32:32
Thanks Tony H, what a lot on here already believe, but of course there are many sceptics, hopefully with some patience they will be proved wrong and converted. 'The Road to Damascus', otherwise known as 'The Dyche Way' !
Paul Kossoff
355 Posted 28/01/2023 at 17:54:22
Shawn Dyche Premier league record.
Games managed 258.
Wins 72.
Draws 68.
Defeats 118.
Goals for 249.
Goals against 364.
Paul Armstrong
356 Posted 28/01/2023 at 18:10:14
The Daily Mail writes today about the Kenwright 'cult' at Everton. I would not have expected spelling mistakes in that newspaper
Kieran Kinsella
357 Posted 28/01/2023 at 18:12:54

It took me a second lmao

Andrew Keatley
358 Posted 28/01/2023 at 18:23:43
If and when Sean Dyche becomes our new manager then he should instil many of the principles that our squad could benefit from; discipline, organisation, effort, concentration. Where we have often seemed a bit lightweight and non-committal I am hoping that Dyche can make us resolute and determined.

Even though he's had a year out of the game, Dyche will be well acquainted with our squad, and has worked with McNeil, Tarkowski and Keane before. It is Keane that I am most interested in. Lampard steadfastly overlooked Keane this season, but for me Michael Keane is our only central defender who is able to make the long diagonal pass - and off both feet. He can make mistakes, we all know that, but watching Conor Coady in the last few games has been painful; slow, afraid to make a challenge, relying on trying to block shots rather than mark or get tight to opponents - which is the sort of timid defending that can spread like wildfire through a team. I like Tarkowski but I think he either needs someone quick and decisive to play with him, or someone who mirrors his own style. I suspect that Tarkowski and Keane could work, especially if we look to defend a bit deeper and use Michael Keane to pass long out of defence. Ben Godfrey is our only central defender with real pace, but he is as likely to be reckless as he is decisive, and sadly his range of passing is as basic as it gets.

As for Dyche, his last few seasons at Burnley often saw sequences of a sustained run of defeats being followed by a decent unbeaten run that eventually tailed off and was replaced by a string of defeats. If he can get that new manager bounce and find the unbeaten run quickly then we'll just have to hope that it's a sustained one and the string of defeats don't take hold too soon.

Jeff Armstrong
359 Posted 28/01/2023 at 18:32:25
Please Sean do not sign Ryan Fraser, £10 million spunked on yet another unproductive part time winger, you need sacking if you sign him😋

Rather have Aaron Lennon for free

Jack Convery
360 Posted 28/01/2023 at 18:35:54
Jeff agreed on Fraser, Another Aiden McGuedy. Waste of space.
Jeff Armstrong
361 Posted 28/01/2023 at 18:41:52
Jack no doubt it’ll be another murky Kenwright “deal” where skunks agree to buy Gordon for £45 million and we agree to “buy” Fraser for £10 million, hasn’t happened yet so hopefully it won’t, but if it comes off Kenwright’s mucky paws will be all over it.

What he forgets is we’re taking on another club’s deadwood, a la Dele Alli, El Ghazi, etc

Andrew Brookfield
362 Posted 28/01/2023 at 18:44:28
When Everton appointed Allardyce I was in the minority who thought it would work. Given everything he’d said about his style reflecting his players I believed with Everton he’d play much more progressive football than he had previously. This was his opportunity to rebrand, to show the world he was more than long ball and 442.

I see the similarities with Dyche, not my choice, once bitten and all that, but could he create something impressive?

Moyse’s football was so formulaic - but I’d take that for the next three years. A consistent formation, with clear roles, and patterns of play - I just hope those patterns are more than just ‘get it in the box’

Good luck Sean. UTFT

PS - great to see Steve Fearns back, I suspect still smarting over our lack of a proper CDM

Christopher Timmins
363 Posted 28/01/2023 at 18:47:01
Who’s doing the deal? SD, BK or our DOF?
Peter Carpenter
364 Posted 28/01/2023 at 18:53:13
Pleased to see the arrival of Dyche;
McNeill, Tarkowski, Keane, Maupay, Townsend, Gueye, Davies, Coleman, Mykolenko.
Gray, Iwobi, Holgate, Godfrey, Patterson, Mina.
Makes no difference;
DCL, Coady, Pickford, Onana, Garner.
Couldn't care less;
Danny O’Neill
365 Posted 28/01/2023 at 19:10:08
As I keep saying, I am past caring with regards to the manager. I have no control over it.

Just make the decision and stop the dithering that has plagued this club for decades.

We need to get the players ready to face Arsenal.

Just do it and stop the uncertainty.

Tony Hill
366 Posted 28/01/2023 at 19:17:03
Bilic excellent about us.
Colin Glassar
367 Posted 28/01/2023 at 19:18:26
When? Is he on the brink? Jesus H, we are so slow at everything.
Christy Ring
368 Posted 28/01/2023 at 19:23:24
Dyche is the best choice and a huge step up for him. Hopefully he'll bring in 3/4 players, but in my opinion, Fraser who we're linked with is definitely not an improvement on the players we currently have, in my opinion.
Barry Hesketh
369 Posted 28/01/2023 at 19:29:16
It's just been revealed that DBB met Sean Dyche on his arrival at Finch Farm, and duly sent him to the fences furthest away from the main complex,saying "don't come back until the job's finished", she thought he was one of the guys sent to do work experience from Eitc.
Raymond Fox
370 Posted 28/01/2023 at 19:33:54
Christ, we've not signed Fraser yet and he's getting rubbished already, nice.
Brent Stephens
371 Posted 28/01/2023 at 19:36:06
Barry, and I believe Dyche asked her for 2 sugars in his tea, if she was about to do her rounds.
Kieran Kinsella
372 Posted 28/01/2023 at 19:36:20
Reports saying he’s working on signings so don’t worry even though he hasn’t officially signed yet. Why the fuck are we letting him get involved in transfers before he gets the job? What happens when Bill is left with his list of targets and Sean discovers he’s gone rogue and spent the money on a bumper new contract for Tom Davies?
Joe McMahon
373 Posted 28/01/2023 at 19:37:01
Well I can confirm our new manager with Burnley has won at Anfield and Old Trafford, so that's promising. Moyes never managed it either with Everton or any other team.
Kieran Kinsella
374 Posted 28/01/2023 at 19:38:49

If we sign Fraser he will immediately be piled on top of the ever lasting dead wood pile. It’s like the magic porridge pot no matters how much dead wood we clear the pile keeps growing

Barry Hesketh
375 Posted 28/01/2023 at 19:42:04
Ray @370
He's 29 at the end of next month, he's made 30 league starts since he joined Newcastle om 2020 and scored twice. I don't see him as an improvement on what we already have - it's only an opinion.
Mark Taylor
376 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:02:22
If we sign Fraser, that confirms our status as bottom feeders.
Derek Knox
377 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:04:18
Ryan Fraser was offered to us when at Bournemouth on a free, so if we pay anything, we have learned nothing.

Just when I was thinking things would be improving...

Jeff Armstrong
378 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:09:20
Raymond he’s getting rubbished before he signs because…, well … he’s a great player !
Raymond Fox
379 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:12:44
I don't see anyone telling Dyche who he should sign, it should be his decision. We have a DoF in the mix and I dare say Billy boy sticking his oar in though as well, too many cooks I fear.

We shall see what happens! It's vital we get two decent players.

What do you think about getting Dele Alli back, a good idea or not.

Peter Neilson
380 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:14:30
Where does Ryan Fraser fit in the Thelwell’s strategy of young hungry players? Has it been ditched? Does it now mean relatively young and with a good appetite?
Danny Baily
381 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:16:57
Ryan Fraser is kind of quick, bang average at crossing and a poor passer. I can't see why we'd bring him in, unless it's a means of unlocking the finances at NUFC for the Gordon deal. A bit like when we took El Ghazi from Villa to facilitate the Digne sale.
Jeff Armstrong
382 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:17:46
Peter 380, Fraser doesn’t fit your newer strategy either.
Danny O’Neill
383 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:19:30
Just do it so I can sleep this weekend. I'm tired with worry.

Then get points on the board so my family can stop listening to me and my poor boy dog can enjoy his walks again.

Make a decision and go with it.

Kieran Kinsella
384 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:21:30
Part of the Gordon deal agreed by Kenwright is that we will buy Fraser for £39M on Deadline Day.
Paul Kossoff
385 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:22:24
Came on the Everton site, to see any news on Everton, and the first thing I see is fkg klippity Klop advertising something, followed by . Klop! Seriously. The position we are in at the moment, the last thing I want to see is that teutonic twat.
Who puts these adverts on here? I suppose the next one will be rat faced Gordon saying how he had to leave Everton and that he's a red anyway.
Joseph Walsh
386 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:29:00
Numerous articles in the media querying why so many previous managers have failed at Everton. It's blatantly obvious and what we all suspected on here – the structure prohibits success. No matter who we would have got that leadership team sets us up for failure.

Yes, the manager sets us up on the pitch but it is clear the playing staff was beyond his remit.

Bielsa proposed taking it back to basics and removing that element of control from the incompetent board and Kenwright panicked at the thought of losing that control and went for Dyche.

You can see the mismatch of styles and players we have had. You didn't need to be a FIFA delegate to know signing Bolasie for £28M, Tosun for £24M and Walcott for £20M to name three was ridiculous. I remember Arsenal fans delirious that they were selling Iwobi and would have given him away and still can't believe we paid £35M for him!

I've read somewhere Biesla's proposal to manage the U21s until the end of the season was a smokescreen circulated by the club and it was the proposal to manage all football-related matters which terrified them.

Imagine Biesla rocking up and being interviewed by Gordon Clegg and someone whose background was in charities.

Separately, our woes don't end there as we have just been debated in parliament as they are now onto the fact Moshiri is Usmanov's launderette!

I desperately want Dyche to work out but given the (not so fabulous) four are not for moving I can't see anything changing quickly

Right, off to buy a lotto ticket as I'm feeling lucky!

Seb Niemand
387 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:36:13
This will end badly.

Or, should I say, in a scenario where there are no good endings, this will be the worst.

Simon Harrison
388 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:41:46
Apparently, just waiting for the finer details of Ian Woan's and Steve Stone's contracts to be finalised.

No announcement now till tomorrow, 'allegedly'.

Once these two are tied up, EFC gets Dyche's signature.

Eminently sensible really, but 48 hours too late for me.

Kevin Molloy
389 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:49:30
Just so bloody amateurish. "Oh yeah, the backroom staff, will he want one of them?'"

Just like with Lampard, should have been sacked straight after West Ham, bled on til Monday. Two days lost. and now another two days, pissing around with Ian Woan.

And two days left of the fucking window and no bugger signed.
No way this board survives past the summer.

Peter Carpenter
390 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:50:15
Joseph (386),

You are surely not suggesting that our esteemed board are anything less than scrupulously honest in all their dealings with fans and press?

Tony Abrahams
391 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:55:36
Tony@350, I've just read what Deeney said, and it was very interesting imo, mate.

Everton have got a lot of good players who have regressed because of the constant upheaval at a very divided club.

Footballers are like little kids and need to be told what to do, and because Dyche is such a good man-manager, he's certain he can unite our football club.

Footballers like things to be kept simple, and a lot of them are definitely like little kids, especially when things are going wrong. But if you can cut through the bullshit, treat them like adults, and give them responsibility, because they know you believe in them, and most players instantly change.

It's crazy, but loads of players don't even realize they are letting themselves down, when they are letting down a manager, they don't really like or think is good enough, but this changes automatically once you have their total respect, imo. I hope Troy Deeney is right about Dyche.

Tony Hill
392 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:58:21
I have to agree, Kevin @389, everything about us is ponderous and has been for years. It's significant that the arthritic approach of the Board to its dealings is reflected on the pitch.

Kenwright and the Professor will be hoping that the "Everton plod" sees them right, and that all the recent unpleasantness can be bored to death.

It's the tactic of politicians down the years: when you're in trouble, drag it out; then drag it out some more.

Barry Hesketh
393 Posted 28/01/2023 at 20:58:54
Memo to Dyche:

Everton have become a stepping-stone-on-the-way-down club – Jonathan Wilson in The Guardian

I understand what Jonathan Wilson is articulating, but during the tenure of Moshiri, we have gone from hoping for regular European football, to hoping that we stay in the division, even if it's in 17th place. Everton the club, and I include the supporters in that, isn't responsible for the failures – it is the owner and the boardroom where the fault lies.

Alex Gray
394 Posted 28/01/2023 at 21:16:37
3 days to announce Dyche and get in 3-4 players. What could go wrong?
Paul Hewitt
395 Posted 28/01/2023 at 21:33:45
I've seen Watford sack a manager and appoint a new one on the same day. It's called forward planning.
Neil Copeland
396 Posted 28/01/2023 at 21:45:04
Paul, a week is actually pretty dynamic for us!
Derek Knox
397 Posted 28/01/2023 at 21:46:13
Paul H, and they are a Cclub with a bad reputation for doing things correctly, so where does that leave us?

The day we rid ourselves of these leeches and morons can't come soon enough, although it'll take years to get to some level of normality.

Ian Riley
398 Posted 28/01/2023 at 21:47:25
All will be fine!

Dyche confirmation tomorrow!

3 signings by Tuesday!

Working day and night getting things done!

Relax!! Everton know how to get things done!!

Peter Carpenter
399 Posted 28/01/2023 at 22:08:36
"They are a club with a clear, long-term plan and a growing reputation for innovation and bold decision-making."

Sadly, that is a description of Sunderland, not Everton, in the I newspaper today.

It's taken Sunderland long enough. How long for Everton?
The battle to get rid of the 'Cult of Bill' has to go on.

Will Mabon
400 Posted 28/01/2023 at 22:12:11
Paul @ 355,

but you have to allow for the fact that record has been achieved while fighting with a poor team near the foot of the table... Oh...

Michael Boardman
401 Posted 28/01/2023 at 22:25:59
And cue the appointment late Monday, with the prolonged signing of Deli Ali from Besiktas on Tuesday 11:50pm (meaning no time to discuss any further signings due to concentration on the marque signing).
Jeff Armstrong
402 Posted 28/01/2023 at 22:34:17
Tony 391 there’s a very good short interview with Slaven Bilic on social media, good watch, speaks about us being a big historical club, even mentioning Dixie but also says fans can destroy players with their comments.
Derek Knox
403 Posted 28/01/2023 at 22:36:14
Peter, " The battle to get rid of the 'Cult of Bill' has to go on."

That has to be a spelling error on the first word, surely.

Jeff Armstrong
404 Posted 28/01/2023 at 22:39:35
Apparently Watford where the club that Kenwright was referring too when he said
“ what would Everton’s board do”
Fucking panic and run around a lot shouting “don’t panic, sack the manager, sign anyone available on the drip”
Don Alexander
405 Posted 28/01/2023 at 22:39:46
Jeff, Bilic was only just more loyal to us fans than Drunken D. The pair of them were selectively unavailable for us whilst going precisely their own selfish way regardless of the consequence to the fans.

Neil Copeland
406 Posted 28/01/2023 at 22:40:11
Derek, ha ha, great minds think alike! I was about to post the same thing.,.
George Stuart
407 Posted 28/01/2023 at 22:53:07
I would have preferred Bielsa for the future but Dyche will do a job. Dig in grind out results.
Whether it will be enough remains to be seen.
It won't be school of science.
Don Alexander
408 Posted 28/01/2023 at 22:53:17
Only an owner/board so far up their own arses can fail to realise that our next manager has the lot of them spread-eagled, as a consequence of their own repeatedly well-proven football ineptitude, right over the proverbial barrel.

Whoever it is will DEMAND a lucrative lengthy personal contract and why not?

I hope he makes contract-based demands for player signing funds too, ensuring he can publicly cite our owner/board's failure to keep their side of the contract when he's sacked in a little while.

Our owner/board are fucking useless - period. They've already fucked the club and the fans for seasons to come regardless of whoever they appoint manager.

Jeff Armstrong
409 Posted 28/01/2023 at 22:59:12
Don 405, yes I agree, Bilic back in 97 was on a run to make as much as he could as a player, he’d just come off the back of a Slavic civil war, nowadays he’s a minted former player and manager who is currently being employed by Watford, ( up until yesterday)so his views on EFC are quite interesting for me,given his previous association with the club,.

Apart from your pre judicial opinions about him and DF, what do you think about what he actually said regarding current players and social media?

Barry Hesketh
410 Posted 28/01/2023 at 23:16:16
I'm not sure whether it is a prolonged bout of gallows humour or a complete state of mind that currently seems to embody so many Everton supporters, it's probably a mix of both. I know we've been utter garbage for a very long time and we are all sick and tired of playing second fiddle to so many clubs.

I really do get it, however, If I was a supporter of one of the relegation rivals and happened upon ToffeeWeb or any other Everton fansite, I would go away feeling that however my club was performing, I would be more optimistic about its chances compared to Everton, given the amount of negative vibes that I'd read on those Everton sites.

It started many moons ago, when most of the angst and worry amongst many Evertonians was overly concerned about how we would fare in comparison to the neighbours, no matter where we were in the league, regardless of the abilities of each side at a particular moment in time, we would lose, or end up behind them, and it was always Everton's fault, the fact was on most occasions many of the clubs in the division would suffer the same fate, Everton weren't unique in their combats with the other side.

Now it seems that every club at most levels are better at this footy lark than the team we support. The lower the club falls, the less inclined, it would seem, that some supporters feel the need to rally around it, to such a point that for some, relegation would come as some kind of welcome relief. It wouldn't end the doom laden posts, in fact, it would probably begin a whole new cycle of "We'll never get back!", "We might drop down another division" etc etc.

How many times do we have to read about how rubbish we are? anybody, who has a passing interest in the club knows about the issues, and how long it has been since we won a match, since we scored more than a single goal, since we kept a clean sheet etc etc. It's akin to waterboarding for football supporters, for every hopeful or foolishly optimistic post, there are a dozen to tell us how it will all end in tears and we'd all better get used to the fact.

However, until it does become a fact, it's nothing more than fear laden pessimism. I totally understand that in the immediate post match, following a bad result, that we all post our frustrations on everything connected to the club. What I don't understand, is when we haven't played a match, that frustration continues unabated, with post after post, filled with dislike and distaste for the club and its players so much so that it begins to look like a full time hobby, rather than a critique of the current state of play.

Fortunately, last season, the fans at Goodison did rally, because not to have done, would have been akin to abandoning our club in its hour of need, despite its imperfections we did manage to get the team over the line, we'll need the same again this season, perhaps, even more so. I'm hoping we get to the new stadium, with our continuous run in the top division intact. It can be done, whether it will be, is for the players and staff to prove, but we can all help by toning down the sense of doom and gloom, and if we must post negative stuff, it might be advisable to do it with far less frequency.


Matt Byrne
411 Posted 28/01/2023 at 23:20:22
We all need to get behind Dyche. We are on tbe brink of a first relegation in 70 years. Our first financial stream, Usmanov, had been wiped out. Our only other outlet, premier league cash, could soon follow. Who is going to pay for the 100m a year losses, 100k a week wasters and 700m stadium? The likes of Rangers and Leeds are huge clubs. Look what happened to them facing financial disaster? Relegation could lead us to administration. Dyche is no Ancelotti, we all know that. Go and watch his interview with White and Jordan. He's honest and straight talking. He can get them organised and get them actually running and sweating for the cause. We need to stay up at all costs before the Bramley Moore move. As a fanbase we need to rally again and get behind the team like last season to fever pitch levels. We need the crowd to help to get the 7 wins. Personally, and many will disagree, I think the fans groups should say there is a truce for now with the board. All that matters is staying up. When we are mathematically certain of survival, the challenge to the board should then be renewed with intensity and vigour. COYB.
Don Alexander
412 Posted 28/01/2023 at 23:33:14
Jeff, no offence but I don't give a monkey's about social media impact on anyone, but I'm a late 60's social-media novice with a thick skin. However, it appals me that some young people seemingly commit suicide as a result of what they perceive as social media abuse.

Just like CDs used to be, social media is here to stay - until something more accessible/controllable/lucrative takes over.

And Barry, fine sentiments indeed (genuinely), however our hierarchy has enjoyed for decades such fan indulgence but only rewarded them with decline and non-accountability.

Many of us want change at the top. Continuing with our Moshiri/boardroom spells doom, soon.

Pete Bridson
413 Posted 28/01/2023 at 23:34:17
Barry 410, totally agree, spot on.
Paul Kossoff
414 Posted 28/01/2023 at 23:41:35
Our new manager said, You start getting your favourite players, mine was King Kenny - as a kid why wouldn't he be your favourite player?

"Souness as well, and Ray Clemence who I've met many times, what a fantastic player, no airs and graces.

"I was a 70's child so everyone was a Liverpool fan but I lived in Kettering so I couldn't get up there all the time, I was a distant Liverpool fan."

Dyche's boyhood hero was Kenny Dalglish and he has since had the chance to meet the Reds great in person.

"I did meet the now Sir Kenny a couple of seasons ago and that was a big moment for me because as a child he was my favourite.

"You don't forget these people just because you work in the same profession, I was so pleased to meet him."

You couldn't make this shit up could you? He'll probably go and wave to the kop after we get hammered and say how privileged he feels managing a team that's just got slaughtered by Klopp's shits. This is Everton.

Paul Kossoff
415 Posted 28/01/2023 at 23:45:42
Matt 411.

Well said.

Jeff Armstrong
416 Posted 28/01/2023 at 23:49:36
Paul 414, but now he is a professional, doing his best for the club that employs him, just like he was doing at Burnley when they won at Anfield.
John McFarlane Snr
417 Posted 28/01/2023 at 23:52:37
Hi all, I have read most of the opinions regarding the Sean Dyche appointment, and it appears that the fanbase is divided. Some are of the opinion (which I share) that Sean Dyche should be given the chance to prove his ability or otherwise.

I have backed every manager since Cliff Britton, and I have done so because I believe that's what 'supporters' do.

I envy those who can see into the future, they already know that Everton will be relegated, while I have to wait until points fall short of the required number, for example, 4 points with one game to play.

Derek Knox
419 Posted 28/01/2023 at 23:58:16
Hi John, great to see you posting again, hope your health and your lovely lady are all fine.
John Reynolds
420 Posted 29/01/2023 at 01:08:08
Paul, 414, are you 12 years old? What has any of that got to do with the job he’s taking on now? Get a grip.
Pete Clarke
421 Posted 29/01/2023 at 01:24:45
After many hours of complete boring nostalgia from Kenwright and a trip to watch the players at Finch Farm, Everton are now close to agreeing severance pay with Sean Dyche.
Don Alexander
422 Posted 29/01/2023 at 01:28:45
Pete, with Kenwright's history it'd be all too believable!
Steve Carter
423 Posted 29/01/2023 at 01:32:33
Hold up, boys, girls and non-binaries, someone's been slipped in under Sean's and our (blue) noses: https://www.benchwarmers.ie/steven-gerrard-everton-liverpool-lfc/258863/
Brian Wilkinson
424 Posted 29/01/2023 at 02:06:40
A bit off subject but can I say a big thank you to Jim, Bill, Derek and others who have offered me support at this sad time, it meant so much and will I return to ToffeeWeb in the near future.

God bless you all for your support.

Mark Taylor
425 Posted 29/01/2023 at 02:09:26
Barry 410

Because the club is sick and starting to disintegrate. It has been going this way for the best part of 10 years. Whatever happened last season, you can't get your way out of such a sickness through merely hope. There has to be change. The definition of madness is repeating that which leads to you failing.

We rinse. We repeat. Until that changes and the personnel doing this are changed, we fail.

Mark Taylor
426 Posted 29/01/2023 at 02:14:52
Brian 424

I don't know you nor know what has precipitated your 'sad time', but I also wish you well, I've had plenty of my own these past 5 years and it makes football seem a little less important than usual when it happens.

Good luck in dealing with whatever you are having to deal with.

Matt Traynor
427 Posted 29/01/2023 at 02:48:25
Mark #425,

Everton's problems go back way more than 10 years in my opinion. More like 30 years.

Dennis Stevens
428 Posted 29/01/2023 at 04:26:10
Some would say it goes back to a lack of adequate succession planning during the latter part of the John Moores era, Matt.
Derek Knox
429 Posted 29/01/2023 at 06:12:17
Reading a few articles from former players as to what Sean Dyche is like to play for.

One said the first thing he does with players he doesn't know, is to give them a blank sheet of paper and asks them to put their thoughts down (should, could be interesting) and a psychological approach to assessing them.

He should have done the same with those who interviewed him! These players went on to say that he made it crystal clear what each's role was, and they were told to stick to it.

Derek Thomas
430 Posted 29/01/2023 at 06:13:27
Dennis Stevens;

March 1971 to be exact when we got biffed out of 2 cups... though a good case can be made for not paying the rent increase in 1892!

Paul Birmingham
431 Posted 29/01/2023 at 06:38:32
Brian, sorry to hear of this difficult time and I hope you and your Family can come through it.

Colin Glassar
432 Posted 29/01/2023 at 06:48:28
If we need a striker who can score goals and make assists, why not go for Danny Wellbeck? I'm sure he wouldn't cost too much.
Danny O’Neill
433 Posted 29/01/2023 at 06:56:05
Wise words as always John Senior.

It's because we support Everton. I ranted about Allardyce and was disappointed with the Benitez appointment. But come Saturday I was supporting the team and willing them to win. And by default the manager.

We will be doing it with Dyche.

I don't have issue with admiring Daglish. I still rate him as the second best British player I've seen. Paul Scholes the best English one, even though his ability to tackle was a bit dodgy. But he could play.

Brian, I hope all is well. If you need any help or support, please get in touch. Derek and others have my contact details. Stay strong.

Shane Pamplin
434 Posted 29/01/2023 at 07:02:57

This type of appointment is is exactly what we don't need. Why are the words 'safe and what we need now' always associated with us? This is the reason we will never win anything again.

Bielsa is who we need to take the club forward. I will not be watching this anti-football, because I think football is entertainment at least Bielsa would get me excited about watching football again.

Good luck at Everton, this is going to be a slow and painful death.

Danny O’Neill
435 Posted 29/01/2023 at 07:12:01
It's the mentality that has been installed into the club Shane.

We will eventually get rid of the shackles at some point and we will win again once we remove the people who have imposed this defeatist and acceptance of mediocracy mentality on our club.

Fortunately, there are still enough of us around who won't accept it.

Tony Abrahams
436 Posted 29/01/2023 at 07:32:02
Being a purist by nature, it always amazes me when I read people talking about Anti-football. I remember scoring a hat-trick once, and when we played the same team the next week, they had a player follow me all game, and we lost one-nil. I was young and remember asking the kid, what he was actually getting out of the game?

Silly me, the first player, his teammates ran to at the end of the game, was the kid who had me scratching my head. I shook his hand, and said lad, I could understand you following me if you was actually getting paid to play, (looking back now, who the fuck did I think I was!)and he just nodded his head, smiled at me and carried on getting back-slapped, off everyone.

Everton are in absolute shit-street, the club is at its lowest ever point in my lifetime, so if Dyche, can get enough pragmatism into this sad and sorry bunch, and get us fighting for every ball, then suddenly the mood will change, the crowd will become engaged and everyone will be pulling in the same direction.

Unite for 90 minutes (it’s 100 now!) and realize it’s one of the most important attributes we can have, especially at Goodison Pk. Look at Newcastle, this time last season, playing god awful football, but suddenly fighting for every single ball. Then look at them now?

Tony Everan
437 Posted 29/01/2023 at 08:12:06
One thing I am looking forward to with Sean Dyche’s appointment is that there will be no passengers on the pitch. He will have every player fully committed to the cause, no half hearted closing down or tackling, or they will be out. I am really looking forward to us becoming a tough team again, hard to beat organised, solid and determined.

The concerns about the more simple , direct football are understandable. It could be interpreted in a different way as being the absolutely necessary first step for the club to build from. Once the solidity I secured then any top class creative talent introduced will add to it. Such a player will not be 90% concerned with defensive firefighting and be much more free to create.

The initial phase doesn’t have to be all mean, frugal football anyway. Often in games there are one or two moments of brilliance interspersed with the battling play.

Enjoying a new found cohesion and strength in the team, coupled with these moments of inspiration will do for me right now. Battling, hard fought wins that Dyche will hopefully bring, are underrated, but should be the staple of our club.

John Keating
438 Posted 29/01/2023 at 08:23:08
Spot on
I wish I knew how to attach things to a post
If you have a chance watch and listen to the Darval manager give his dressing room talk before they went out and beat Aberdeen in the Cup last week
Truly inspiring
Shane Pamplin
439 Posted 29/01/2023 at 08:34:44
Danny I agree the shackles will come off eventually. What I don't understand we go for an unemployed coach, who no other team would touch. I played when I was younger and with' hoofball football ' you will get line outs all the time. We don't even have players who can take a fast throw in. Our players will be required to play close to each, waiting for second balls break. They will simply kick the ball to Pickford, to hoof the ball forward and hope we win the ball. THERE IS YOUR BLUE PRINT UNDER THIS COACH. no thank you I will rather watch Kaizer Chiefs vs Orlando Pirates here in South Africa which is also rubbish to watch, but still better than HOOFBALL.
Danny Baily
440 Posted 29/01/2023 at 08:46:02
Danny 435, it's ambition that got us into this mess, so you can hardly accuse the club of lacking ambition. They hired one of the best managers in world football and backed him massively. It was a gamble and it didn't work out. Adding to that, we'd backed the previous few managers to a similar extent, and those in charge on the football side of things made poor decisions (Bolasie, Gbamin, Iwobi etc).

We took our shot, just like Leeds did all those years ago. And it's backfired.

Marc Hints
441 Posted 29/01/2023 at 08:48:17
Really? If I remember rightly with this coach they actually played some nice footy and played us off the park at Goodison. Think I remember 24 passes then scored. Sean Dyche does not play hoofball all the time.
Shane Pamplin
442 Posted 29/01/2023 at 08:54:48
Marc#441 We are the only team getting played off the park by teams Burnley, who look like Arsenal at the moment. I watched that that match and even Dwight McNeil ran rings around us.
Marc Hints
443 Posted 29/01/2023 at 09:00:12

Let's hope Dyche has the same affect. I do actually think it's the right appointment and will get this squad of players sorted. Frank was to nice, I don't think our players will get away with the performances we have had under Dyche. When Burnley were playing nice footy he managed to get results at Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, something our past managers haven't succeeded.

Peter Carpenter
444 Posted 29/01/2023 at 09:01:01
Derek (403) and Neil (406), I'm preparing a banner for the next game; 'BILL IS A CULT.'
Jim Lloyd
445 Posted 29/01/2023 at 09:03:24
Brian, (424) You're a mate. You'll be back with your incisive views, you've been missed.

Danny (435) (436) You've both very accurately pointed out what an advantage we can provide. Hopefully, we will provide it. We did last season so we can do it again. As for predicting what what style of football awaits us, I think he plays very practical football and suits the tactics to the situation. I think poor old Frank was left to stew a bit too long, when it was clear he was finding the job too hard.

One thing I feel fairly certain of, and that's the team that comes out to represent us, will put their tripes out. Hope I'm wrong but Gueye looks yards slower than when he left us, as does DCL. but we will soon have Townsend back and he was one of our better players before he got injured. I don't think we will be carrying any passengers, and I don't think we will be fannying around with the ball at the back either.

PS Pete, Great idea, I'll contribute!

Paul Tran
446 Posted 29/01/2023 at 09:03:50
Tony #437, that's absolutely spot-on. We've spent six years pretending to be a big club, scattergun spending with no thought to building a team. We bought the cherries to put on the cake we'd forgotten to bake.

I had high hopes at the start of the season when we bought some solid players, but Frank couldn't organise them, and we were wide open all over the pitch.

I'm hoping Dyche will make more use of these buys, organising and drilling them.

Start simple and solid, then build from there. We've been doing it in the wrong order for too long.

Derek Knox
447 Posted 29/01/2023 at 09:12:02
Peter @ 444, hope you develop temporary dyslexia and Tourettes combined, like Kenny Everett used to say " I mean that, in the nicest possible way !" :-)
Danny O’Neill
448 Posted 29/01/2023 at 09:24:24
Reckless and unplanned ambition combined with a lack of leadership or vision Danny Baily.

Had our owner installed appropriate, competent and accountable people to own his cheque book and run the club properly, it might have worked out different. Nothing is a given, however:

Instead, he was conned into believing the existing establishment in place "got Everton" and that would work, so he could go back to Monaco thinking everything would be okay.

I get Everton, I breathe them and wake up every morning thinking about them. One of my favourite rituals is my trip to the Goodison Supper Bar for Chips Peas and Onion Gravy. So you could have put me in charge if that was the criteria. I wouldn't have recommended it though.

Credit where due; Bramley Moore will be a fine legacy. But we've wasted a huge and very expensive missed opportunity on the pitch these past several years.

There are some very good articles in the media right now pointing the finger at Everton's leadership (or lack of). Finally the nationals are onto them and they can't hide for much longer from the root cause rather than hanging people out to dry. They talk a lot about what many have been saying for years. Dysfunctional approach to transfers, interference from owner and board members rather than letting DoF and managers get on with football matters. They've been playing fantasy football when they don't understand football.

We simply can't keep blaming manager after manager. Especially when we have had so many and they are all diverse and different types. That is not the problem or the solution whoever the next poor soul into the chamber with a noose around his neck is.

Tony, you know me and I too am a football purist. Come Saturday, we get behind the team and for those 90 / 100 minutes, I don't care about who is in the dugout! We follow and support Everton without question and unconditionally.

It's Sunday and I'm ranting. I need to go and say a few Hail Marys and pray for Everton.

Tony Waring
449 Posted 29/01/2023 at 09:46:13
No Danny not a few ail Mary's the whole rosary starting with the Sorrowful Mysteries. The Glorious will have t wait a while methinks !
John Graham
450 Posted 29/01/2023 at 09:53:39
Guess he will be announced after the transfer window closes.
Very poor work by the DOF and scouting team if we can't get anyone in even on loan, can't see any reason for them being there apart from picking up unearned wage packets.
Simon Evans
451 Posted 29/01/2023 at 10:07:28
I really hope Dyche makes it work, first and foremost we have to stay in the league, that's the number one priority. But if he were to manage this feat, I do worry down the line what type of side we will become. I've seen the stats during his tenure at Burnley, a system he cultivated and bought players to fit into. Can't say I'm going to be looking forward to watching us play for the foreseeable..
But I guess beggers can't be choosers, and anything has to be better than what we've have to endure. We should become nastier, harder to beat and more organised. Think I said this a few years ago when Sam got appointed.
But as negative as the rest of that comment seems, its just worry. Sean has my full support hope he gets a fantastic reception first game af Goodison. COYB!
Anthony Murphy
452 Posted 29/01/2023 at 10:34:05
Before the transfer window, it was clear we needed at least two new signings - three ideally. We are leaving it extremely late. Whatever you think of Gordon, his departure leaves us a player short. I think we will refreshing our social media by the minute on Tuesday and will be left frustrated - we’ll probably bring one in but that leaves us lacking. Dyche will have to go with what we’ve got and we’ll need to pray none of our forwards pick up injuries.
Bill Watson
453 Posted 29/01/2023 at 10:46:05
Anthony #452

The club agreed in the summer of 2021 that Richarlison could go at the end of that season.

Four transfer windows later and we have signed. Maupay.

What a shambles of a club this is.

Christine Foster
454 Posted 29/01/2023 at 10:47:28
It's Sunday night, been a hell of a weekend, Friday drove up to see Elton John (6 hours) biggest storm I have seen in many years, cancelled show, sitting in the rain in a waterlogged stadium, back to the car wading through a foot of water.. trying to get through floods on motorway, water over bonnet, real scary, cars and people everywhere, God knows how my Mazda got through it, but lost bits of the car thanks to trees, 3 foot raging torrents.. a day in the life of NZ.
Finally making it home again, white knuckles and a whisky later, went online to ToffeeWeb to see who we had gone in for and confirmation of manager. Nothing. I thought I must need to refresh my internet page, same as when I left, but no.. still we wait.
Utterly flipping hopeless bunch of wallies.. can't even bring myself to rage anymore. So, so disappointed with Gordon, so disappointed in the club, can't say I am thrilled at Dyche but I understand why he is there and he gets my backing, but it doesn't let Chairman Bill or the board off the hook.
Interestingly, with Moshiri doing his video, DBB and Thewell doing the interviews, after seeing him left on his own at the last game is he finally being ( as the Japanese would say, given a window seat) while decisions are taken elsewhere? Hope so... now, anyone know a good panel shop? I hit that fallen tree pretty hard..
Geoff Lambert
455 Posted 29/01/2023 at 10:49:37
We have three quality incoming players before the window closes. Ringfenced. Thanks Bill.
Alex Gray
456 Posted 29/01/2023 at 10:53:07
Calling it now. We announce dyche on deadline day. Him and his backroom team are the new signings with ryan fraiser on loan with aspirations of emulating club legend El Ghazi.
Bill Fairfield
457 Posted 29/01/2023 at 11:04:11
We’ve changed the manager. Other than that,it’s the same shit show. Hopefully, Dyche can help them see the light.
James Hughes
458 Posted 29/01/2023 at 11:04:38
Christine #454 It must have been rough and scary.
My daughter, partner and grandson were due to fly out of Auckland on Friday but flight was cancelled.as the airport and every else was flooded.
Rebooked for Saturday and that was cancelled finally got away on Sunday picking them up tomorrow, hurrah.
Some of the pictures have been just unreal

Sorry that is not football related

Derek Knox
459 Posted 29/01/2023 at 11:14:49
Christine,, sorry to hear about your wasted weekend, should be used to them now supporting Everton, but, you should have followed the Yellow Brick Road, on the way to The Crocodile Rock Concert. I bet you felt like a Candle in the Wind with those storms, but put it down the Circle of Life. Don't Go Breaking your Heart, Everton usually deliver on that score. Let's hope we are All Still Standing at the end of the Season, and Sean Dyche is The Rocket Man ! :-)
David Hallwood
460 Posted 29/01/2023 at 11:17:02
BTW, it wasn't Marx or even Carlos Santana, it was George Santayana, who said that. Just sayin'
Christine Foster
461 Posted 29/01/2023 at 11:20:30
Very good Derek, of course the other one might be a good anthem for next weekend Saturday nights alright for fighting.. I just hope the team do..
Christine Foster
462 Posted 29/01/2023 at 11:29:47
James, they always advise you not to drive into water, but when the water is everywhere you have no choice, stop and that's the end of the car! I saw a car on the SW motorway with people in just get washed away, luckily they got out. Never ever seen or been in a storm like that. But of course climate change is rhubarb..
Anyway, still here, interesting to note Dyche only has an 18 month contract? A break from tradition, a wait and see perspective?
Danny O’Neill
463 Posted 29/01/2023 at 11:35:08
Christine, I've experienced some outrageous storms in Florida and the Carolinas.

And the Cook Straights was an emotional experience!!

Probably tame compared to the one we're in now.

On the Elton John theme, I guess that's why they call us the Blues.

I simply you more than life itself.

Cradle to grave.

Steve Brown
464 Posted 29/01/2023 at 11:38:25
Hopefully, the silence on the announcement is because Dyche and Thelwell are working on transfer deals.
Tony Everan
465 Posted 29/01/2023 at 12:04:18
Christine, I read it’s a 2 1/2 year deal 12.5m up to June 2025. With some protective severance clauses should Moshiri get cold feet in June. Also the guarantee of funds to sign at least two players this window.

Sounds like a harrowing experience you went through, glad you got home in one piece. Your Mazda sounds like the James Bond Moonraker model!.

Pat Kelly
466 Posted 29/01/2023 at 12:06:21
We have to be patient as we await news of new signings. Deadwood doesn't grow on trees, you know.
Dave Abrahams
467 Posted 29/01/2023 at 12:14:15
Tony (465), yes I read it was a 2 1/2 year deal, not sure about the wages £5M a year, doubt he was on anything like that at Burnley although I read an article that said he was on a bonus of £500,000 per year if he kept Burnley in the premiership.
Ian Edwards
468 Posted 29/01/2023 at 12:17:39
Christine 454 The moral of that story is never like the music of Elton John.
Neil Lawson
470 Posted 29/01/2023 at 12:18:23
Far too much to read on this thread. One comment only. Failure to confirm/announce is just ridiculous. This is the current Everton way. Laughing stock.
Gary Russell
471 Posted 29/01/2023 at 2023/01/29 : 12:27:20

I often wonder, is it just us, Everton, who procrastinate, take forever – use whatever words you will – to get deals, managers over the line?

Most of us don't pay attention to other clubs but it does feel like most of them get their business done and dusted a lot more quickly than EFC. Once there's some legs in a deal being mooted, I can't remember when we last had any outgoings or incomings without protracted negotiations, silence, and basically no idea if or when a deal might be completed.

The latest being our supposedly new manager. Silence once again. Maybe I am wearing my royal blue tinted glasses…

Mark Boullé
472 Posted 29/01/2023 at 12:30:10
Anthony #452

What forwards? We don't have any worthy of the name...!

Frank Fearns
474 Posted 29/01/2023 at 12:53:00
U tube -- Guy Mitchell "singing the blues". Bill might want to turn this into his next West End musical. Could drag on for years!

Lets do Arsenal and cheer is all up.

Ray Smith
475 Posted 29/01/2023 at 13:10:53
Gary 471
I hope I’m wrong, but once again the silence is deafening.
All of our incomings and outgoings in the past have BK written all over them.
I can’t help but feel he’s got his fingers in all the pies currently so that he can say ‘I did that’.
However, another deadline day disaster awaits!!! We never learn, panic buys, bargain basement here we come again!!!
Somebody tell me I’m wrong?
Not expecting many, if any replies.
Joe McMahon
476 Posted 29/01/2023 at 13:13:33
Just checked first time today, does anyone know why it's taking so long to confirm. Why does this club always drag its fecking heels!
Dave Abrahams
477 Posted 29/01/2023 at 13:20:07
Not sure but I can’t recall any off field football business done on a Sunday, definitely no transfers are done on a Sunday
Barry Cowling
478 Posted 29/01/2023 at 13:24:12
I woke up at 5.10 this morning sweating, I was convinced Everton had announced that now they had sold Gordon they were getting Bielsa, I had to get on internet, , and phew it was only a nightmare and Dyche is the man,, thank god for that, so I went back to bed and slept like a baby.
I cant understand some of the negativety on here about Dyche,, in my humble opinion it is the most logical and sensible appointed of any manager since Joe Royle (although I was very happy about Martinez and Allardyce), lets face it all the rest have not been sensible, Koeman the worst, I was gutted we got him, Silva was a huge gamble which included an embarrasing chase, Ancelloti, obviously a coup but we knew he wouldnt be here long, Benitez was the most unlikely and damn well crazy appointment and Lampard was a surprising one at the time and again a gamble. So, I for one am delighted we have Dyche. I remember when he got sacked at Watford and I thought it was a bit crazy and unjustified and when he got sacked at Burnley, myself and everyone I spoke to said it was madness and how everyone then hoped Burnley would get relegated, even all the pundits condemned it. I just hope the board stick with him and give him a fair crack over time, we desperately need stability above all else.
On another note I watched the Ipswich Burnley game with a keen eye when Broadhead came on with about half hour left, a lot of the Ipswich fans were a bit raving of him and he looks an absolute bargain at 1.5M, gets much more involved than Simms with an eye for a pass and decent strike, so we may come to rue that one, but I suppose we need the dosh
Rob Halligan
479 Posted 29/01/2023 at 13:33:10
Newcastle have yet to announce the signing of Anthony Gordon. What’s taking so long? Absolute joke of a club!
Rob Halligan
480 Posted 29/01/2023 at 13:47:16
Dave # 477. You say no transfers are done on a Sunday, yet it’s been reported in the last few hours that Chelsea have signed Malo Gusto from Lyon. I don’t recall this transfer being confirmed last night, so I can only assume it was completed this morning?
Colin Malone
481 Posted 29/01/2023 at 13:50:51
Cant wait for Tuesday night. 10.30pm. Breaking news from Everton! Sean Dyche has signed, to fill the managers vacancy.

Sunday. 2.50pm. Still no announcement. Un-believable.

Romae non per diem.

Paul Tran
482 Posted 29/01/2023 at 14:07:11
Rob, the delay is because they're searching for a Watneys Party Seven for the welcome video.

Brent Stephens
483 Posted 29/01/2023 at 14:07:22
Rob #479 - subtle point, well made, Rob!
Eric Myles
484 Posted 29/01/2023 at 14:22:27
Colin #481, I was going to post something similar.

Maybe they can't find a biro in Goodison Park?

David Hallwood
485 Posted 29/01/2023 at 14:25:45
Paul Tran(#482) I don't know how you fared, but even with a synchronised hammer and chisel at the ready, most of it ended up on the bathroom ceiling
Paul Tran
486 Posted 29/01/2023 at 14:45:55
Hard work, weren't they, David!

I predict the welcome video will be Sean opening one with his bare hands, drinking it in one, then throwing it at an unidentified player.

Oliver Molloy
487 Posted 29/01/2023 at 14:52:54
Right now I'm beginning not to give a fuck what happens the rest of the season - it's just endless bad news and bad vibes - nobody wants to play for us as far as I can see, the squad we have in general is poor with a few exceptions.
Will our better players look up to Dyce !, will he be able to manage them and get more out of them?
How the fuck did we get to this is beyond belief.
It looks like there may be a battle going on between Moshiri and Kenwright ( with sources now saying he doesn't trust Moshiri with the club ) - his way of trying to get the fans on his side.

Chris Hockenhull
488 Posted 29/01/2023 at 14:54:36
Just played Tom Waites “ Invitation To The Blues” suddenly had a different resonance..
Alan J Thompson
489 Posted 29/01/2023 at 14:58:19
I'm confused, I thought most said all our players were just sitting around winding down their contracts but now a lot seem to think Dyche will have them high pressing and running around Boltlike, definitely confused, or has he found the escape clause in the contract having side stepped one being put in his own!

Tony(#436); That bloke who marked you out of the 2nd game, did you not think to go and stand on the penalty spot in their box just to see what he did? Like sweepers, get your centre forward to mark him and see what he does.

Mark Ryan
490 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:13:58
Why so much moaning. They said this would be announced on Monday with the club and Dyche looking at player comings and goings over this weekend.
Tomorrow will soon be here. Dyche will be announced, Gordon will be gone and the past 2 days just might prove to be 2 days of hard work well spent in terms of player planning
Tony Abrahams
491 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:14:28
I never thought of that Alan J!

Seriously when I hear people talk about anti-football, I think of Everton, getting a point at Anfield under Allardyce.

Then I think about Martinez and Silva, both being wide open at the same ground, making c**ts out of us, and then I think that professional football is a results business, especially when you’re in a position like Everton, are in right now.

Some people are looking past this, and that is fair enough, but I just hope we can cross that bridge when we come to it because it’s all about trying to get Everton safe now

James Hughes
492 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:14:57
Rob, I can't imagine any of those very wonderful F.A. employees working on a Sunday, even though the PL pays their wages
Didn't we have an issue at the start of the season as Maupay was signed on a Friday evening and it was bank holiday weekend so missed the Monday game ? I could be wrong
Anthony Murphy
493 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:16:56
Anyone else watching the RS and wondering how they aren’t down to 9 men?
Brian Williams
494 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:18:01
If that ain't a red card then I despair for the state of the game!

Jeez they're at it again. Dirty shower of shite.

Steve Cotton
495 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:18:52
Make that 3 reds..
Brian Williams
496 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:19:51
Nigel Munford
497 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:23:23
Yeeeeesssss indeed Brian!!!!!
Will Mabon
498 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:25:20
Arrh - shame.
Steve Cotton
499 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:25:30
What the heck were VAR doing with the Fabinho challenge it was 6 month ban challenge
Peter Mills
500 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:27:01
Despite all the efforts of VAR and officials over 2 rounds.
Will Mabon
501 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:28:34
The Sky Darlings Damage Limitation Team has just convened for an emergency meeting.
Ray Smith
502 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:31:26
Oliver 487
Moshiri 94.1% shares Kenwright 1.3% shares.
There is a hidden agenda here, where Kenwright as you say doesn’t trust Moshiri!
I was mulling over my eternal dislike of Kenwright, and came up via a dictionary with a word IMO sums him up.
Pompous:- a person who speaks/behaves in a very formal/serious way, because they believe they are better/smarter or more important than other people. BK?
Not sure where I saw/read it, BK told a friend recently that the fans just don’t understand him and what he is doing! delusion or what😂😂😂
I’ll settle for Moshiri for now if it means Kenwright leaving; but that won’t happen.
Kim Vivian
503 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:32:30
Well after trying to kick Brighton into the English Channel, Karma comes to the RS who got what they deserved. Brilliant game from Brighton and I can say I am proud that the nearest PL club to where I live is the Seagulls so I do have a soft spot for them. Blue and white as well.
Rob Halligan
504 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:33:45
Steve # 499……….it was as though Fabinho knew he could be off. It was an horrendous challenge from behind, raking his studs right down the Achilles of the Brighton player. Could have put him out for months, and might still do if there are any after affects.
Lee Whitehead
505 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:39:30
Dirty RS !!!!!
Brian Williams
506 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:39:43
Ray I reckon the agreement between Moshiri and Kenwright was basically that Kenwright would run the footballing side while Moshiri looked after the business side, including the stadium.
I also reckon that Moshiri's maybe started to suspect some of Kenwright's intentions and decisions, hence his stepping in on managerial choices.
It's a clusterfuck for sure.
Simon Dalzell
507 Posted 29/01/2023 at 15:44:48
Good shout Mark (490).
Nick Page
508 Posted 29/01/2023 at 16:07:39
2 days and 5 hours left.
Not even a manager

Kenwright’s Everton


Bob Carlton
509 Posted 29/01/2023 at 16:22:09
Nick #508


Jim Bennings
510 Posted 29/01/2023 at 16:36:50
If I give up watching Everton then Brighton is the club I'd support.

They play the game the way I wish we did but can only dream of.

They sell better players but keep playing the same way.

Oh and they have got the loveable Reds bent over a table every time they play them.

Barry Hesketh
511 Posted 29/01/2023 at 16:39:52
Jim @510
When you remember the dire straits that Brighton got into not that long ago, it gives us hope that improvement can be made at Everton, but not with the current incumbents in charge, unfortunately.
Will Mabon
512 Posted 29/01/2023 at 16:42:34
"If I give up watching Everton then Brighton is the club I'd support."


Derek Knox
513 Posted 29/01/2023 at 16:45:41
"If I give up watching Everton then Brighton is the club I'd support."

Jeez, Jim, that'll cost a fortune going down there every other week ! Midweek games too, give yer head a wobble !

Rob Halligan
514 Posted 29/01/2023 at 16:54:16
Well you couldn’t say Jim would be a glory hunter because they’ve never won so much as an egg cup in their entire history.
Jerome Shields
515 Posted 29/01/2023 at 16:59:36
Thought Liverpool should have had two red cards. Injuring a player on the first, preventing a goal scoring opportunity. They only got one yellow getting a dangerous play tackle past VAR. Actually could have got a third for the free kick that resulted in Brighton's goal.Two of the Brighton players could be missing more games than a red card ban.
Joe McMahon
516 Posted 29/01/2023 at 17:04:59
Jerome, and certainly no one from the BBC or Sky, will ever call the ridiculous bias out, Never.
Nick Page
517 Posted 29/01/2023 at 17:07:39
Jerome, the horrible twats couldn’t beat even beat them without Caciedo being told to stay at home. Even though they shouldn’t have been there anywhere having got beaten 3-1 by Wolves at the Tin Mine.
John Davies
518 Posted 29/01/2023 at 17:14:46
Konate, Fabhino & Robertson versus Brighton - one after the other. Dirty bastards, especially the last two. If those challenges had been made against any of the shites, red cards would have been brandished, the pundits would have been all over it & Klopp would have been squealing like a girlie wanting assault charges to be filed.
F. g hypocrites got exactly what they deserved. Let's get to Anfield in a couple of weeks & give them some of their own.

Mark @490: I didn't know that. Was wondering what was going on. Hope you're right & the time is being used wisely.

Lee Whitehead
519 Posted 29/01/2023 at 17:24:41
By the way chaps - have we got a manager yet 😂😂😂
Peter Carpenter
520 Posted 29/01/2023 at 17:38:12
Bill's revenge. That will teach us to stop him going to the game.
Jerome Shields
521 Posted 29/01/2023 at 17:41:13
Thought Liverpool should have had two red cards. Injuring a player on the first, preventing a goal scoring opportunity. They only got one yellow getting a dangerous play tackle past VAR. Actually could have got a third for the free kick that resulted in Brighton's goal.Two of the Brighton players could be missing more games than a red card ban.
Lynn Maher
522 Posted 29/01/2023 at 17:46:33
Ray@475. Bargain basement, I wish. We’re waiting for the yellow stickers to come out!
Ian Edwards
523 Posted 29/01/2023 at 17:57:15
The delay in announcing Dyche makes you wonder if there is a problem.
Colin Glassar
524 Posted 29/01/2023 at 18:16:32
Maybe he’s turned us down, Ian. This is BK’s Everton after all.
Robert Williams
525 Posted 29/01/2023 at 19:10:46
Tony A 123. If he's good enough for you, he's good enough for me too.
Neil Copeland
526 Posted 29/01/2023 at 19:13:45
Brian #424, sorry to hear you have had bad news. Try to keep smiling and your head up mate.
Tony McNulty
527 Posted 29/01/2023 at 19:17:00
Ian and Colin,

I've started doing an Elvis as well (that's three of us with Suspicious Minds).

Maybe Dyche made the retention of Gordon a condition of joining?

Neil Copeland
528 Posted 29/01/2023 at 19:31:24
Lynn #522, anyone we get will be past their use by date
Tony Abrahams
529 Posted 29/01/2023 at 19:31:58
I hope so Robert W, otherwise we are gonna be absolutely fucked.
John Davies
530 Posted 29/01/2023 at 19:34:24
Ian, Colin, Tony. Oh come on guys. Please don't go there. This club can't get any worse. Can it?
Rob Halligan
531 Posted 29/01/2023 at 19:35:16
Tony # 527………….pretty certain I read somewhere yesterday that Dyche actually sanctioned the transfer of Gordon.
Danny O’Neill
532 Posted 29/01/2023 at 19:37:05
Jim, how can you give up supporting Everton? I don't understand.

The answer is you can't.

They are the girl you marry and stay with for life.

I wish I could hate them sometimes, but I can't. I just live in the hope we can make each other happy most of the time despite inevitable fallouts and arguments.

But you never stop loving them.

Neil Copeland
533 Posted 29/01/2023 at 19:43:57
Danny, absolutely. We are born, once it’s there, there is simply no removing it.

I cannot imagine life without EFC the greatest club in the world even when we are shiter than shite!

Robert Williams
534 Posted 29/01/2023 at 19:44:08
Tony A. Fucked? I saw the writing on the wall four years ago - that's when I stopped going the game. Still punish myself tho' - I'm a bugger for punishment - like many on here I suspect.
Tony McNulty
535 Posted 29/01/2023 at 19:50:53
John - don't tempt me.

Rob - was it the same source that was confirming Dyche as manager?

Apologies lads. I'm getting excited about transfer day.

Brent Stephens
536 Posted 29/01/2023 at 19:54:24
The delay in naming Dyche might well be that he now won't take the flack in Gordon being sold. Perhaps Dyche insisted on that?
Alex Gray
537 Posted 29/01/2023 at 19:55:37
Dyche was at the ground on friday, in that time Gordon has gone to training, not trained, left training, gone to Newcastle and gone on the sesh all weekend and signed for the barcodes.

Meanwhile Kenwright is still trying to open the front door to let Dyche in whilst telling him all about the good times Everton have had.

Can’t wait to see how we reinvest this 40mil. I expect a deadline day consisting of “Everton have submitted a late loan bid to sign (insert uninspiring name here).”

Peter Carpenter
538 Posted 29/01/2023 at 19:56:08
No, Brent. It's simply because Everton can't do a fucking thing right. Not even a simple thing.
Neil Copeland
539 Posted 29/01/2023 at 19:57:18
Brent, that’s a fair point and makes sense.

I am hoping that it is because we are going to announce an incoming transfer at the same time. Deluded that I am of course.

Tony Abrahams
540 Posted 29/01/2023 at 20:00:51
I still go Robert, but stopped traveling away on a regular basis towards the end of the Martinez reign. Once Koeman came, and I started watching football without a plan, it became a lot easier to justify, and nobody has been able to convince me otherwise since.

Hopefully Dyche gives us some method, because it’s been absent for years, and maybe I might even get back on the road again with my youngest son, but he actually prefers going to watch his brother playing now, so I’ve even started missing some games at Goodison, because of this.

I’m curious to see who Dyche brings in with him, because my old mate Steve Stone, got promoted from the under 23 team, into a first team coach, during Dyche’s last season at Burnley, and because the season never went well, I’m hoping it’s not because Stoney, was a jinx.

He might be an old mate, but I’ve had enough of the jinxes we have had at Everton, down the years, so hopefully Stoney, ends up doing Paul Tait’s job, and starts bringing through a few of the younger players instead!

James Newcombe
541 Posted 29/01/2023 at 20:08:29
They’ll probably appoint Dyche on Monday evening, and then disconnect all the phones on Tuesday. “Whoops, we tried!”
Colin Malone
542 Posted 29/01/2023 at 20:10:41
He's in the entry.
Colin Malone
543 Posted 29/01/2023 at 20:20:10
Colin Malone
544 Posted 29/01/2023 at 20:30:04
Simon Harrison
545 Posted 29/01/2023 at 20:31:16
I'm just wondering if DBB (AKA Ken's minibot) and Thelwell promised Dyche transfers in. So, until Dyche see's incoming players, he won't put pen to paper, despite the £2.5m-£12.5m depending on breaks/clauses etc.

Surely, Woan and Stone have sorted their contracts by now?

Dyche was interviewed Thurs, at Goodison/FF Friday and at FF y'day and today..? So, why no official announcement?

I mean Gordon officially signed as a Toon yesterday, but no 'official' announcement till today on our OS!?

"There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip!"

The longer this drags on, the more the grease on the trapdoor hinges...

Tony Everan
546 Posted 29/01/2023 at 20:41:12
Danny, it’s a worse affliction. If Henry VIII was an Everton supporter his wives, and their heads, would come and go but he’d still be a gout infested bluenose.

That’s why it’s hilarious when you get the occasional poster saying, ‘that’s me, I’m done, I’m finished with them, bye everyone “.

We all know that a day or two will pass and they’ll be right back to where they left off.

Colin Malone
547 Posted 29/01/2023 at 20:42:10

Where is Dyche.


Ignore the above.

Tony McNulty
548 Posted 29/01/2023 at 20:46:29
Tony (546)

When I first moved to London there was an advertising poster on London Transport with a picture of Henry VIII and a speech bubble with him saying:

"Return to Tower Hill please"

Underneath a graffiti artist had scrawled:

"And a single for the wife."

Andy Meighan
549 Posted 29/01/2023 at 20:51:02
Paul 182. The red shite aren't hammering us any time soon, they're awful. Any half decent side could get something off them. Arsenal now that's a different matter top of the league and playing well. 4pts I'm prophesying here. Draw with Arsenal and a win at the hovel. Do me that.
Dave Abrahams
550 Posted 29/01/2023 at 20:53:25
Tony (548) Brilliant !!
David West
551 Posted 29/01/2023 at 20:58:13
Are Tottenham going to slide in and snatch the "done deal " that is Sean Dyche too ???
Or is it that the owner & Chairman can't be arsed getting to finch farm over the weekend and want their photo op Monday morning?
Better not be affecting and transfer dealing or it's just hampering the new man
Only Everton!!!!!

Seb Niemand
552 Posted 29/01/2023 at 20:58:51
You kow, we used to be the club managed by Carlo Ancelotti.
Deborah Maria
553 Posted 29/01/2023 at 21:10:41
Robert@ 534
Bollox, the only thing that stops you going the game is you
Mike Doyle
554 Posted 29/01/2023 at 21:17:45
Rob # 531] using the excuse of taking the dog for a walk can you get over to Calderstones Park and ask Deepthroat ( aka Seamus) why it’s taking so long to confirm the Dyche appointment.
This extended delay happened last year with Frank and we ended up with Delle on deadline day.
Tony Everan
555 Posted 29/01/2023 at 21:19:39
Tony ! Haha Love it.

Off the theme, but I used to walk to work across a park in Leeds to the town centre every morning. Painted on the footpath was ‘‘ Jesus Loves Me ‘‘ ….then a few steps later …”But He Fucking Hates You “.

Always set me up for the day.

Larry O'Hara
556 Posted 29/01/2023 at 21:24:17
And as a blast from the past, during the 1979 Election when I lived in Coventry there was a Tory poster depicting a dole queue with the slogan Labour isn't working. I just may have been very close to whoever made the big addition below it: ‘And the Tories Never Will’ 😁
Robert Williams
557 Posted 29/01/2023 at 21:25:40
DM554 - Agree
Anthony Hawkins
558 Posted 29/01/2023 at 21:27:45
I suspect Dyche has insisted on only concluding his own appointment when his request for new players is completed. No new signings and we're manager-less. Maybe. It's the only reason I can think for not announcing it.
Tony McNulty
559 Posted 29/01/2023 at 21:35:02
How's this for an example of my terminal cynicism?

If you have a row with a putative manager about transfer targets before you hire him, you don't get landed with any payment in lieu of notice.

Simon Harrison
560 Posted 29/01/2023 at 21:49:35
Anthony [558] I posted as much at #545.

I can hear a fiddle somewhere, and the stench of smoke...

Ray Smith
561 Posted 29/01/2023 at 21:55:12
Lynn 522 😂😂😂
Ray Smith
562 Posted 29/01/2023 at 21:56:56
Tony 527
Can I join 👍👍👍
Ray Smith
563 Posted 29/01/2023 at 22:03:25
Danny 532
52yrs March 6th.
Everton 5 Cambridge 0, managed to see highlights on MOTD, but there’s another story hiding behind that.
One day I’ll spill the beans, but she was a diamond then and still is now.
Havn’t seen her for 50yrs 😂😂😂 only joking, she’s my lifeblood 😂😂😂
Kevin Molloy
564 Posted 29/01/2023 at 22:04:40
this delay matters. We could have had a week where Dyche took charge of the club. and put us back on an even keel so that new signings don't view us as a problem club. Instead, last 24 hours we haven't even got the manager nailed down, let alone the essential signings. Everton keep lowering the bar, and just when you think they've plumbed the depths, down we go again.
Tony McNulty
565 Posted 29/01/2023 at 22:06:11
Ray (562), sometimes I wonder whether our club operates in accordance with no known rules
Sean Kelly
566 Posted 29/01/2023 at 22:08:53
Pat Kelly #466 sharp as ever lad. Thanks for putting a smile on my face. Having read most of the comments on the various threads about Dyche and Gordon that made me smile. Humour will have to get us through this.
Sean Kelly
567 Posted 29/01/2023 at 22:19:54
is Dyche ditched already
Nick Page
568 Posted 29/01/2023 at 22:20:24
Godot just signed for Everton. Meanwhile we’re still waiting for a manager
Brent Stephens
569 Posted 29/01/2023 at 22:23:27
Sean #567, maybe he's waiting for another Offa?
Tony McNulty
570 Posted 29/01/2023 at 22:30:08
I hope he's not taking time out to assess the quality of the squad before finally deciding.
Nick Page
571 Posted 29/01/2023 at 22:32:48
I’m case you missed (heard) it


Ernie Baywood
572 Posted 29/01/2023 at 22:36:10
Anthony 558 - that's the only answer I can come up with. And you couldn't blame anyone for being suspicious of our board. It smacks of 'don't give me promises, give me action'. And there's really no need for Dyche to sign up a few days before the window ends. We don't have a match - he can afford to hold off.

It's more believable than Thelwell being on leave to take the missus to Llandudno for the weekend.

To be honest, I still maintain that a new manager is only a small part of what we need. It's the transfers that will make the difference. I actually don't question the players' effort; I massively question their quality.

And at present we're weaker than when the window opened.

Don Alexander
573 Posted 29/01/2023 at 22:39:16
I'll bet Kenwright's chunks that Dyche gets more than a 2.5 year contract.

He'd be nuts not to insist on it/them.

On that, I'm with him.

Nick Page
574 Posted 29/01/2023 at 22:40:26
Brighton telling Caceido to stay at home after a £60m bid from Arsenal and still beating the shite, whilst also losing their leading goal scorer. Caceido cost £4.5m by the way.

Meanwhile, “Denise is the best CEO in the business; no question”

Which business is this? Sycophanting? Pretending? Dreaming?

Don Alexander
575 Posted 29/01/2023 at 22:46:51
Nick, I'm with you bro'!

Nick's clip is Kenwright talking total shite about the enormous expertise then (and largely now) in our boardroom so adored by every other major football club.

He makes David Brent seem like Martin Luther King when it comes to integrity.

Stay strong!

Nick Page
576 Posted 29/01/2023 at 22:48:46
Hahahaha just seen that beaut Klopp moaning that Fabeeno and the left back rat not getting red’s, which they should have done 100%, and other teams get yellows against them and no one says anything. Fucking planet is he on? Name me the last red card FC Satan got….

It’s called money-driven favouritism Yerg. In old English; BIAS.

Hope Dyche riles up the big gobshite again and snots him in the tunnel.

David Vaughan
577 Posted 29/01/2023 at 23:01:56
Few posts have me howling like a drain than yours, Nick Page. Keep 'em coming! Thank you too for getting me 'on board' re 'The Ditch' coming in...if of course he is. :-/
Soren Moyer
578 Posted 29/01/2023 at 23:18:10
I remember we were the first club interested in Caceido and then we decided he was not worth 4.5m!!!


Neil Copeland
579 Posted 29/01/2023 at 23:28:44
Ray #563, it was Colchester mate, they beat Leeds 3-2 in the previous round.
Ray Smith
580 Posted 29/01/2023 at 23:34:54
Neil 580

It was my wedding night 😂😂👍

Nick Page
581 Posted 29/01/2023 at 23:40:10
Tom @578 me and my father in law (Utd from Eccles) oft discuss this tackling behind thing as we have both have played and both understood it to be “illegal”. Which it still is. And actually many get away with it and they shouldn’t. However, how does jumping down the back of someone’s Achilles and then pulling a silly face get you out of a 3 match ban?

Can anyone tell me, seriously, the last red the bastards got?

As for Dychey, he’ll have a good go at Bingo!! Go on Sean lad.

Nick Page
582 Posted 29/01/2023 at 23:43:18
Don - everyone needs to hear Blue Bill waxing lyrical. I was crying…..in despair.
Paul Kossoff
583 Posted 29/01/2023 at 23:52:27
At the end of 1 Samuel, Saul and Jonathan are killed in Israel’s battle against the Philistines (1 Samuel 31:4–6). When David hears of their deaths, he sings a song of lament, called “the Song of the Bow” (2 Samuel 1:18, BSB), that includes the words, “How the mighty have fallen!” (2 Samuel 1:19 and 27). The rest of the song, against the backdrop of David’s relationships with Saul and David, illustrates the significance of those words.
I hope Jesus is a blue and a half, we will need him.
Eric Myles
584 Posted 30/01/2023 at 00:17:24
Lee #519, they've run out of biros, Bill has ordered some and they're being delivered along with the fax paper at 23:50 tomorrow.
Nick Page
585 Posted 30/01/2023 at 00:24:44
Paul, I keep asking Him but he never gives me a firm reply.
Don Alexander
586 Posted 30/01/2023 at 00:31:50
Quiz question for late 2023 :-

"Name the only Premier League club in history who failed to appoint any manager at all in January, or sign any players despite selling one of their own for £40mill whilst being at the bottom of the Premier League?"

If any of the very top clubs want to seek advice on the one true answer I suggest they phone me instead of our self-proclaimed, for decades, self-serving bullshitting greatest ever Evertonian.

Cue Madness's "Embarrassment".


Ernie Baywood
587 Posted 30/01/2023 at 00:58:31
Don, the most incredible thing is that this isn't the first time we've done this. We did the same last year!

We sold a key player, sacked our manager midway through the window and then appointed the new manager on pretty much deadline day.

Last year we were 16th at this point and survived by the skin of our teeth. Will we be so fortunate this time? Surely repeating something that has taken us backwards previously isn't wise. Yet here we are in the spiral of doom. We're circling the drain repeating the same processes with ever dwindling returns.

Geoff Lambert
588 Posted 30/01/2023 at 01:34:21
Ray #581 it was my 11th Birthday.
Simon Harrison
589 Posted 30/01/2023 at 01:38:52
Just found out the reason for Everton's non-appointment of Dyche; apparently, they have asked for a DBS check on Dyche, just in case he would present a "real and credible threat to their safety and security".

They should get the result back in 6-8 weeks. Until then, Jonathon Williams, 'Deputy Director of Football Operations', will manage the team, whilst Kevin Thelwell continues trawling thru EFC fansites for ideas for new signings.

Normal service (sic!) whatever that means will resume on April 1st 2023...

Mark Taylor
590 Posted 30/01/2023 at 01:45:15
Jesus wept, I despair of this club.
Don Alexander
592 Posted 30/01/2023 at 02:30:43
Seemingly we'll soon have to support Dyche (but don't put money on it given the numpties in charge of us) who said to his Burnley team the last time they played us "Don't worry lads, Everton just don't know how to win", and he was 100% right.

Since then we've sold Richarlison, our best player by far, to sit on Spurs' bench.

I'm not having a dig at Dyche today, and I think his comments on us, above, were fully vindicated by relegated Burnley dicking us on the day, but just what will be his first team talk to our disparate squad as a consequence, almost all still there from when he so rightly derided them?

And it's not the inept squad's fault - who look around seeking any sign of a plan for the future in which they might personally develop in their career.

And it's not Dyche's fault - he's a professional in a dog eat dog "industry".

Will anyone not yet nailed-on as a critic of our ruinous owner/board care to comment?

Bill Gall
608 Posted 30/01/2023 at 02:51:41
Cant wait until Tuesday and get all this madness over and by then hopefully we will know who our manager is, and if any new players are coming in, and if we are loosing any more players from the comedy club.

Do not know whether to laugh or cry over the depth that this incompetent Owner and Board have sunk this Proud Club, and the only people who seem to care about it is those magnificent supporters who have to pay to see it being ruined.

And this is when the Owner and Board say they care, if you did you would never have let it happen.

Simon Harrison
609 Posted 30/01/2023 at 02:52:44
Mark, don't worry I was only kidding... Gallow's humour!
Jim Bennings
610 Posted 30/01/2023 at 06:35:25
So even since sacking Lampard, the club is still failing to do things right.

If it was going to be Dyche, this should have been done and dusted by last Wednesday at the latest.

Instead of that, the fella arrived on Friday lunchtime at our training ground and still the club hasn't made an announcement almost 72 hours later.

We bring Bielsa over for talks even though that was a deal that was never happening for either party.

Exactly why I said that simply removing Frank Lampard was solving nothing.

Alan J Thompson
611 Posted 30/01/2023 at 06:40:37
How long have some of you been Evertonians! Bill always waits until the 1st of the next month to appoint managers as he thinks he is saving at least a weeks wages. He got an accounting degree in the Boys Pen which was his introduction to economizing/saving money by removing that bar in the fence and sneaking into the Ground section.
Jim Bennings
612 Posted 30/01/2023 at 06:57:07
Well Dyche will have precisely one day to bring in at least two forwards or face the reality that last seasons imminent relegation with Burnley becomes real this year with us.

I'm not being negative just realistic here.

I see no way at all how this current Everton squad finds enough points or goals to survive.

It's the flip of a coin even if we manage to pull off two really good attacking signings but as it currently is, not a chance.

Rob Halligan
613 Posted 30/01/2023 at 07:26:24
Jim, how do you know that nothing has been happening over the weekend regards transfers? Just because there has been no announcement doesn't mean Dyche hasn't been working with Thelwell on potential incomings and outgoings.

And no, I don't know he has been working on any transfers, but let's not be so negative before we know any facts whatsoever behind the lack of no announcement. You never know, today could be a quadruple announcement!!

Bill Rodgers
614 Posted 30/01/2023 at 07:27:18
There is a fashionable negativity amongst Everton fans which some people pretend is sophisticated or even clever.

Let us hope it is treated like poison for the next 4 months and Dyche is given the full support he deserves.

Phillip Warrington
615 Posted 30/01/2023 at 07:29:15
Great! Once again selling one of our better assets, not replacing him with a striker.

Leaving it to the last minute to appoint Dyche, making it near impossible for him to bring in the right player as he will have less than 24 hours to bring in someone.

This once mighty club has become a joke, even my red shite mates don't give me shit anymore.

Ernie Baywood
616 Posted 30/01/2023 at 07:49:34
It could be, Rob. It really could be.

Honestly, do you think we're about to do great business in the remainder of the transfer window?

Yep, I'm feeling pretty negative. But feeling optimistic about Everton's ability to do good business is just foolish by now, surely?

Jim Bennings
617 Posted 30/01/2023 at 07:53:10
I won't hold my breath Rob.
Danny O’Neill
618 Posted 30/01/2023 at 08:13:01
Dithering Davey used to generally leave it until 23:59 hours on Deadline Day. Let's hold our nerve.

The fact we have a DoF will mean there is background activity going on. It's just whether we can do deals.

And if Thelwell managed to prise the Gordon cash from Bill before he headed to the Bank of Kenwright!!

I apologise. I am becoming more cynical and frustrated.

So, to pick myself up, I think negotiations will be taking place and deals in place. It was probably reliant on the sale of Gordon, which Newcastle only announced yesterday. Hardly swift business on their part.

A sleepless 48 hours glued to Sky Sports News and Social Media ahead.

Chris Donnelly
619 Posted 30/01/2023 at 08:16:32
What the hell is going on???
Dyche was at Finch Farm on Friday, still no announcement, which means no new players as they don’t know who they will be playing for.
This whole situation is the making of a worldwide west end show that Kenwrong will make his shady millions from!!!
This club is a complete and utter joke!!!
Why does it take EFC so long to do ANYTHING????
If we aren’t careful a Northern Premier League team will swipe Dyche from under our noses.
Or is Dyche on a weeks trial?
This saga is draining me!!!! (And my phone)
Mark Ryan
620 Posted 30/01/2023 at 08:21:18
They said Monday Chris. Its Monday. It will be today.
Jim Bennings
621 Posted 30/01/2023 at 08:25:33
Danny 619,

Remember in 2008 when Moyes signed Fellaini in the middle of the night and next day we woke up to the big Belgian fella?

I wouldn't mind another deadline day like that.

Rob Halligan
622 Posted 30/01/2023 at 08:29:42
Vinny O'Connor saying on SSN that Dyche will be taking training this afternoon. Let's hope he's also taking one or two new players in that training session.

The club not announcing a new manager is not the important issue here, despite the fact we all know Dyche is the new manager, but getting new players in ASAP is!

Peter Carpenter
623 Posted 30/01/2023 at 08:30:52
Find out who Brighton are signing and try to hijack. The latest is a 19-year-old Swedish player for £5M.
Paul Tran
624 Posted 30/01/2023 at 08:48:23
I read that Dyche was going to be announced on Monday. Which is today. Not sure what all the angst is about here.

They will, in my view, be working their tripes out to get players in. Not being a huge catch and not having much financial wiggle room makes it obvious that we will do business very late in the window. Not sure what the angst is here, either.

Paul Hewitt
625 Posted 30/01/2023 at 08:50:20
Have we got a manager yet?
Tony Abrahams
627 Posted 30/01/2023 at 08:53:51
Don@593, although I’m a fully paid up member of the organization’s, trying desperately to force change inside our once great club, I think that what Dyche said then, might just make things a lot easier and more simple for the man, when he first faces his new squad of players.

He will probably go over what he said and why he said it, and then continue by saying that he believes that they have been concentrating that much on trying to play like Lampard wanted, that they have stopped concentrating on the basic fundamentals that win you football matches?

He will probably then say, that he’s been proven right, considering how many football matches Everton have won this season, and then he might point out to the players that they survived last season by sheer will, and if they can impose this into their game, then everything will slowly start to become a lot better.

I’m ever the optimist, if only football could be this simple!!

Bill Fairfield
628 Posted 30/01/2023 at 09:01:14
Alls we are really doing is passing on the same baton of failure that we’ve witnessed for the past seven years. But i’am really hoping the new guy can talk some sense to this chaotic board and owner.
Anthony Murphy
629 Posted 30/01/2023 at 09:06:29
Likely Dyche will be announced this morning but unlikely we’ll see any incoming players until tomorrow - I’d expect no more than 1 in and that’ll probably be a winger to replace Gordon.
Finn Taylor
630 Posted 30/01/2023 at 09:14:35
Dyche can come in all he wants but unless there are at least 3 additions to the squad nothing will change - he ain't turning water into wine with this lot.

I think the players really try (but didn't seem to at West Ham) they just arent good enough.

Scary thing is, Efc are probably trying (24/7) to get players in but no one wants to come. :(

John Pickles
631 Posted 30/01/2023 at 09:16:19
Where is he? Has he gone to Spurs at the last minute?
Trevor Peers
632 Posted 30/01/2023 at 09:28:28
Heaven's above will today finally be the day we announce we have a new manager ? Today the torturous dinosaur that is Everton's PR machine might just clunk into gear and bother to tell us what we've all know since Friday.

It's getting more and more intolerable to support the blues and I'm sure Kenwright and co get some weird perverse pleasure out of delaying anything remotely newsworthy. Let the peasants wait attitude.

It's a scandal considering the amount of money their paying themselves for being directors. What a waste of money ! They stink the place out and need sacking the lot of them.

Joe McMahon
633 Posted 30/01/2023 at 09:38:30
FFS McKennie going to Leeds on loan.

My concern is he's seen loyal Everton supporters concerns of the board, and knows Bill Kenwright has been hanging around and being unproductive for decades.

Is he having second thoughts about the board and squad, 7 managers in so few years cannot all be wrong.

Colin Glassar
634 Posted 30/01/2023 at 09:39:24
Danny O’Neill
635 Posted 30/01/2023 at 09:47:14
I do remember that one Jim.

I listened with interest with one of the Wrexham co-owners after yesterday's FA Cup match.

How refreshing and interesting.

Aiming for the Premier League despite being currently sat in the 5th tier of English football. Why shouldn't we was his response when questioned. Ambition. Remember that?

Apparently looked at a number of clubs before settling on Wrexham. Interesting again given the proximity.

Not interested in interfering on controlling what happens on the pitch, that's for the coaches. Further interesting. I guess that was potentially a 2 minute awkward conversation with Bill.

And they have sold 24,000 "soccer jerseys" across North America and building the brand. They have apparently run out of supply.

I like to see certain other clubs do well, but it's depressed me.

Meanwhile in Hogwarts, Bill is smiling and telling everyone it's okay as he gets Everton and understands football because he stood in his boys pen. Fahrad nods and smiles back. We've got this under control.

John Pendleton
636 Posted 30/01/2023 at 09:55:55
My insider tells me the delay in the announcement is because the lad doing the PowerPoint wanted time and a half on Sunday. Bill couldn’t agree a compromise.

He’s was on his way in this morning but the 82C broke down at the lights.

He’s since been arrested by the anti-terrorist squad for his specific internet search when ‘Dyche’ threw up ‘Daesh’ (other name for ISIS) - namely ‘Daesh to take no prisoners in vicious fight for survival’.

Anyway, all sorted now. He’s just gone the Asda for a butty and then he’ll get straight on it. Not long now.

Jerome Shields
637 Posted 30/01/2023 at 10:01:31
I wonder if there is a requisition form that someone has to sign off on after a weekend away.
Peter Neilson
638 Posted 30/01/2023 at 10:03:49
Peter (624) Brighton do seem to find some gems. I think David Weir nearly came back to us under Benitez but stayed at Brighton and replaced Dan Ashworth as Technical Director. Interesting to see if he continues their good work.
Jimmy Hogan
639 Posted 30/01/2023 at 10:08:08
Jerome # 638. I heard the broadband was down over the weekend and is getting fixed this afternoon.
John Graham
640 Posted 30/01/2023 at 10:08:14
Very slow and very poor decision making.
He either is or isn't going to be our next manager. If he is then appoint him and let's try to get at least one striker in and get him working with the squad on team formation and tactics.
Paul Tran
641 Posted 30/01/2023 at 10:15:05
Danny, we are where we are because of ambition. The ambition to spend big on players and managers.

We forgot about the competence and governance, which goes with any business that successfully scales up.

We've spent our ambition. That'll be on hold until the next owner. I'm hoping Sean provides a solid base for him/them.

Danny O’Neill
642 Posted 30/01/2023 at 10:22:59
Double tap
Danny O’Neill
643 Posted 30/01/2023 at 10:25:57
Exactly Paul. We're saying similar. Yes there was ambition.

But there is a difference between having a plan, a vision and a strategy to support that ambition in comparison to what we done, which was reckless spending with no plan or vision.

We may have had ambition but we didn't have the right people to execute it.

Laurie Hartley
644 Posted 30/01/2023 at 10:43:40
Tony #628 - After the flickering flame of “nervous excitement” I felt at the chance of Bielsa becoming our manager was abruptly doused I felt quite miserable but your posts about Sean Dyche have reignited hope.

“And we’ll fight, fight, fight, with all our might …………… 👍

Christopher Timmins
645 Posted 30/01/2023 at 10:51:16
The lack of a long term plan or strategy still remains and was evidenced in the goings on of last week. It just seems that as long as the current Owner and Board are in place, this will continue to be the case. We desperately need the current owner to sell up and move on. Hopefully, Sean Dyche can do a similar job to Moyes over the next year or two and we arrive safely into our new home as a Premier League Club that has started to get it's house in order on the playing field.

I fear that at present we are not an attractive proposition for any potential vendor, maybe a vulture fund smelling blood, never mind any talented young footballer.

If things don't break for us in the transfer market over the next 48 hours its going to be a very difficult end to the season! If they do, we will be closer to 12th than 20th come the season end.

Our chances of surviving will have greatly increased if the funds obtained from the Gordon sale are spent properly.

Nick Page
646 Posted 30/01/2023 at 10:59:05
They’re not in any rush are they! Even the media are bored to death of how badly this is being conducted. We’re a laughing stock
Dave Abrahams
647 Posted 30/01/2023 at 11:00:18
Danny (636), did you notice on the field one of the Wrexham centre backs utilised the space n front of him and ran with the ball drawing the opposition players onto him before making his pass, and the midfield players making a pass then running into space to receive the ball back and for the third goal did exactly that and scored to put Wrexham ahead.

In short, in that one game, they had a plan, stuck to it and looked a lot more organised than Everton have been all season under Frank, hopefully Dychey will get them working together and organise a new fit for the team if they listen, better days ahead for the rest of the season.

Kunal Desai
648 Posted 30/01/2023 at 11:02:50
They probably will announce Dyche tomorrow at 11.59pm. Will be like a new signing.
Brent Stephens
649 Posted 30/01/2023 at 11:11:31
Clue in a national paper's crossword today: "Always a heavyweight team now in trouble".

So, we're not just on the sports pages!

Anthony Hawkins
650 Posted 30/01/2023 at 11:13:45
@Jim Bennings #622. Who you wake up to is non of my business. :D
John Gall
652 Posted 30/01/2023 at 11:39:50
They'll do a big media splash today. Sean rubbing the badge on his little ginger goatee. Key words : "massive club", "great opportunity", "the hard work starts now", "I was impressed with the plans Mr Moshiri has for this historic club", "always loved the atmosphere at Goodison" blah blah fucking blah... He'll keep us up, and get sacked at Christmas when his limitations are exposed.
David Hallwood
653 Posted 30/01/2023 at 11:48:25
Why do they get kia Joorabchian in as Dyche's No2 given that he's our chief scout
Paul Cherrington
654 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:04:49
Was going to wait for an official announcement on this before posting but will be hanging on a long time it seems. I know the club will want to make sure everything is in order before confirming but how long does it take?!!

is a running joke now as everyone know he is our new boss - the club just can't be bothered to tell us properly. maybe they'll just let us work it out when he turns up in the dugout on Saturday.

Good luck to Dyche anyway and hope he does well. Am fully behind him and think he is good manager who has a decent chance of getting us to safety. A tough, no nonsense leader is what the club and players need right now.

Alan McGuffog
655 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:05:17
John 653 that'll do for me !
James Hughes
656 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:06:44
What there not telling us is that the announcement won't be made until 29th May
Mal van Schaick
657 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:07:01
At this rate they’ll reappoint Frank. Organised chaos.
Rob Birks
658 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:13:17
something not right here!
I wonder whether Dyche has said NO to not signing unless reinforcements are definitely incoming!
Who knows with our board
Derek Knox
659 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:16:43
It's not the lack of an announcement confirming Sean Dyche as new manager that is worrying me, I think it's pretty well nailed on he is. It's the lateness and lack of news in the Transfer Window.

Every man and his dog knows we desperately needed at least three in, well before the Manager Interviews were about to happen. Which beggars the question what is the role of the Director of Football ?

He impressed me when he was appointed, and outlined what he wanted for the future, but there has been little evidence of any wise footballing decisions being made since then, is he there in 'title' just to make it look good ?

Jim Bennings
660 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:16:48
So we've got a fella taking training sessions today that hasn't even officially been announced as our manager right?


So much for Everton Football Club learning to communicate with it's fans.

For me this is everything in a nutshell that is wrong with our club.

John Chambers
661 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:17:38
Another wasted week. After sacking Lampard the new manager should have been in place within 24 hours not 7 days. Presumably there is some money to spend from the Gordon fee after we have paid Lampard, Cole etc off and the new manager, presumably Dyche, should have had the week to spend some time with the squad and give Thelwell 3 or 4 days before the end of the window to address these areas. Can’t see how Dyche can have any real influence on anything that happens in the next 36 hours
Mark Ryan
662 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:18:08
Do you want him to be spending hours having video clips of himself sprawled over a desk wearing Everton underpants and scarf or do you want him head down with Thelwell trying to resolve players coming and going ?
It will get done today
Paul Tran
663 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:20:05
Was always going to be this way, Derek. We have little financial wiggle room and are in the bottom three - not exactly a catch, are we?

Dyche is apparently taking training today. I expect him to say at his unveiling that working with the players is more important than doing the media stuff.

Peter Neilson
664 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:21:38
If the rumoured salary of £5m a year is true then each day of delay saves the club nearly £14k. They can put this towards enhanced security for the board allowing them to attend the Arsenal game. Any change can used to pick up the tab for a few more meals with Levy.
Derek Knox
665 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:22:02
Good point Jim, in that alleged Interview with Moshiri, (personally think it was staged, the NSNOW part) he did say about the importance of the fans to the Club, and that he (FM) always listened to their concerns.

We now see almost the opposite in operation, or should I say, lack of it ?

Danny O’Neill
666 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:25:48
Dave Abrahams, Wrexham done what I love to see. Brave defenders not afraid of the ball and willing to take the ball to the opposition.

A team, that when they gained possession, made the pitch big and created space for those players to run into and pass into the space. It was a very open game, but great to watch.

I make it sound simple. Sometimes it is. If you sit in the confines of your own box, you are inviting trouble and the law of average. You will eventually concede.

Get up the pitch and play in the other team's half more that in your own.

Nick Page
667 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:29:45
I sincerely hope more pressure is put on Kenwright this weekend to go. The despicable cancerous parasite.
Michael Boardman
668 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:33:12
Is the delay due to the level of menthol lozenges available in the dugout for the gravelled one?

I mean, delaying the appointment was an absolute charm last year

Tony Everan
669 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:34:46
Sean, Brent 567,569

He will be looking forward to working with Culvert-Lewin.

Iain Johnston
670 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:37:28
The only signing we'll make is Coady.
Kevin Molloy
671 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:41:06
he'd just like to thank the chairman, and the whole board here at EFC for making this happen. Now we must all pull in the same direction and for that we really need the fans on our side'.
Duncan McDine
672 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:42:43
This is dragging on so long that you can’t help but wonder what is causing the delay. If the club are pushing it closer to deadline day so there’s excuses for a lack of signings, then we’re in deeper shit than previously thought. I hope that isn’t the case, but this all feels very ugly.
Ray Jacques
673 Posted 30/01/2023 at 12:54:08
Dyche Out.

Just wanted to be the first to it!!!!!

Bobby Mallon
674 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:04:56
I’m really surprised everyone on here is so surprised that 1, we have not announced Dyche as manager and 2, that we haven’t signed anyone.

I hope we don’t buy anyone in this transfer window. They won’t make us any better than what we have already ( they never have in Moshiri,s time and our young players ( Simms etc ) will do just as good.

Reference Dyche, I don’t care if he’s announced or not. I don’t think he’s going to get us out of being relegated ( just my opinion and I hope I’m wrong) and would rather get a full time manager next season for a proper go at the Championship

Neil Lawson
675 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:11:05
Ridiculous. Laughable. Appalling. Inexplicable. Pathetic. Woeful. Just 6 of the players Dyche wants before he will publicly raise the scarf. 22.59 tomorrow evening . possibly.
Brent Stephens
676 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:12:07
Tony #670, he might see DCL as another drain on the club.
Pete Williams
677 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:14:51
Daily Star just posted pictures of Dyche arriving at Finch Farm. Better late than never! Let's hope he's got a shopping list ready and he can spend that £40m well.
Michael Boardman
678 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:16:09
He's signing Keane for Crawley
Colin Glassar
679 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:17:32
Maybe he’s refusing to smile for the photographer.
Tony Everan
680 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:22:44
Rumours Coventry asking for £25m to do the deal on Gyokeres. Sheffield Utd will want similar for Ndiaye. We’ll be skint again by Tuesday night.
Daniel A Johnson
681 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:25:22
Simply embarrassing though we supposedly hire a manager and still no announcement. Good old the Everton way
Pete Clarke
682 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:26:46
Maybe Dyche is noncommittal and a bit embarrassed to be in a full on relationship with this once beautiful but raggedy old girl.
He’s just wanting to give us a shoulder to lean on whilst enjoying some benefits until the inevitable split.

The great Sean Dyche is using us and Bill is trying to find the title that suits before any announcement.
I can see the headline now. ‘ Everton announce their new ‘ Care-Worker ‘

Tom Edwards
683 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:29:44
Pete at 678.I just read, that after ten minutes, he was seen departing Finch Farm via the back fence muttering something about not being that desperate for a job!

Michael Boardman
684 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:31:30
Apparently he's not happy Edge Hill Matalan have sold out of Jose Mourinho coats so has changed his mind
Sean Kelly
685 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:40:01
I was going to comment but couldn’t be arsed
Steve Byles
686 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:41:35
20 or 30m spend cannot turn this shit show around. Play the kids and put any money towards the stadium..
Nigel Munford
687 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:49:10
Its all been planned by Bill so that there’s no time left to buy players!!!!
Kieran Kinsella
688 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:56:04
Last week it was said they wanted a manager by Friday for the warm winter training break. What happened to the warm weather training and the manager?
Jason Hewly
689 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:59:18
Has Mike Bassett been announced or what?

I bet Arteta, Klopp, and Guardiola are shitting themselves.

Michael Boardman
690 Posted 30/01/2023 at 13:59:43
This is warm winter weather - it's been raining for the last few days - no idea on the manager though
John Keating
691 Posted 30/01/2023 at 14:01:03
Rob Halligan
692 Posted 30/01/2023 at 14:01:08
Confirmed. Can go and get your baby oil out now and cream yourselves silly!!
Zack Yusof
693 Posted 30/01/2023 at 14:03:06

In the words of Johnny Rotten, “ever like you’ve been cheated?”

Michael Barrett
694 Posted 30/01/2023 at 14:03:26
Has anyone seen the Sean dyche: The truth about my management style, podcast on YouTube the show is called High performance, it was filmed 3 months after Burnley sacked him.
Jack Convery
695 Posted 30/01/2023 at 14:07:44
Apparently its signed sealed and delivered. ( Until the next time ! ). Kenwright OUT NOW !!
Paul Kossoff
696 Posted 30/01/2023 at 14:10:45
Nick Page 668, 👎👎👎👎👎
Pete Williams
697 Posted 30/01/2023 at 14:21:05
Now we'll all be glued to Sky Sports hoping for some signings. I don't actually think we'll get anyone, but sometimes there are miracles.
Will Mabon
698 Posted 30/01/2023 at 14:23:25
Neil :-)
Steve Cotton
699 Posted 30/01/2023 at 14:24:41
The main site have just announced that Lampard has been sacked..
Zack Yusof
700 Posted 30/01/2023 at 14:27:11
Ah well, here we go. Let the comedy begin..
Will Mabon
701 Posted 30/01/2023 at 14:31:46
Zack, I feel underwhelmed and kind of resigned to it all - but it's still Everton, mostly.

Am thinking about growing a disc beard...

Brent Stephens
702 Posted 30/01/2023 at 14:52:22
Dyche! Well, I must say, Everton kept that one quite.
Justin Doone
703 Posted 30/01/2023 at 16:04:10
I hoped the delay meant he wasn't coming, so that has disappointed me.

I'll try not to dwel on his poor win record, or that's he got Burnley relegated twice and plays totally awful anti-football crap.

The fact is he wasn't considered good enough last time but we are now more desperate than ever thanks to the boards lack of footballing knowledge. Bill now praises him which makes me worry even more.

Can we stay up with almost half a season still to play, of courses we can.
Will we blow the £40M down the drain on desperate deadline days signings, absolutely.
Am I going to attend any matches with Sean in charge, no.

For all the fan's who wanted Sean, are happy with Sean, believe he was the best of the 2 candidates or even think he was a sensible choice for the shortlist, I hope your happy and enjoy watching the team.

Good luck all blues, for now, I'm out.

Martin Faulkner
704 Posted 30/01/2023 at 18:48:59
2 and a half year contract as well, hope there is a break clause or 2
Neil Copeland
705 Posted 30/01/2023 at 18:51:34
Kieran, don’t do it, don’t go, we all love you (well not all obviously, maybe just a few really).

Just kidding 🙂

Kieran Kinsella
706 Posted 30/01/2023 at 18:52:37

Cheers ( I think) lol

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