The Cult of Bill: He cannot cut ties and wields huge power

27/01/2023 29comments  |  Jump to last

Ian Ladyman at the Mail questions why Bill Kenwright remains front and centre at Everton despite having sold to Farhad Moshiri reduced his shareholding of the club to just 1.3%.

The obvious answer is ego and an inability to step out of the limelight but the overall picture is more nuanced.

"Kenwright sold to Moshiri in 2016 on the understanding he could remain at the club. There is a suspicion held amongst Kenwright-sceptics on Merseyside that he turned other potential investors away because they refused to guarantee him this. Kenwright firmly denies this.

"Whatever the case, seven years after the sale and with the club once-again managerless following the sacking of Frank Lampard, Kenwright, according to those who know him, continues to believe that Everton would simply sink on Moshiri's solo watch."

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Anthony Jones
1 Posted 27/01/2023 at 17:40:31
Kenwright is preventing Everton from sinking?

Not according to the league table!

Jack Convery
2 Posted 27/01/2023 at 18:36:32
He needs to retire, end of.
Nick Page
3 Posted 27/01/2023 at 18:38:30
I wonder if Ladyman has had the call yet?
Jim Lloyd
4 Posted 27/01/2023 at 18:45:23
Hahaha! That's a good'un! Kenwright saving Moshiri!! More like the other way round.
Matt Henderson
5 Posted 27/01/2023 at 19:43:52
Article in the Mail on Bill Kenwright tonight.
Kieran Kinsella
7 Posted 27/01/2023 at 19:55:15
"Bill has his acolytes on the board," explains a former Everton insider.

"Sources reveal Ryazantsev's attempts to move the club forward while on the board were met by what was perceived as Kenwright intransigence.

'Sasha wanted to go from local to global, away from the image of the People's Club but felt he couldn't get Bill to agree,' Sportsmail is told."

Andrew Grey
8 Posted 27/01/2023 at 20:01:39
I need a shower now after reading the Daily Fail.
Joe Corgan
9 Posted 27/01/2023 at 20:13:45
That is an excellent article, seemingly written by someone who really did their research.

Two things really stood out to me:

- Neither Moshiri nor Kenwright have ruined the club on their own. It is the fact that we have both of them, pulling in different directions, that's killing us. So why does Moshiri get rid of Kenwright? Well…

- Moshiri keeps Kenwright around to divert criticism away from himself. And, to be fair, it's largely worked until now.

Ultimately Kenwright probably does need to go. He doesn't own the club anymore and he's too personally invested to make it work. It'll be a somewhat sad end but he's only really got himself to blame.

Jim Lloyd
10 Posted 27/01/2023 at 20:36:53

I's gone now, but there was a great thread, with some excellent contributors. It was all about how Mr Moshiri was not looking to sell the club, but was looking for investment, maybe major, but certainly a junior investor from the USA.

A lot was to do with potential better commercial and investment funding (left me to be honest, but it was looking beneficial to EFC).

The bit that really got my interest was what could happen if we got major investment, basically, the major investors could call anl EGM and that could decide to break a contractual arrangement that may exist between Mr Moshiri and Kenwright.

To my eyes, it meant we could get rid of the man... brilliant but even a minor investor with 5% or more could call for an EGM to do something similiar and get shut of any contractual shackles that Kenwright might bind Mr Moshiri from sacking him.

If you can find the article about Moshiri selling or seeking investment, it's well worth a read.

Kieran Kinsella
11 Posted 27/01/2023 at 21:15:13
Jim Lloyd

Which is Kenwright pulled that stunt about the "threats" the day the potential investors were at the Soton game so as to scare them off and keep his toy.

Joe Corgan
12 Posted 27/01/2023 at 23:17:29

I don’t doubt that the comments and rumours are accurate. It’s my belief that Kenwright has never, ever wanted to move on from Everton. I believe he had multiple opportunities to sell the club prior to 2016 but waited for someone who would allow him to stay on.

Whether or not Kenwright’s position is contractual or simply a gentleman’s agreement, I don’t know. If such a contract exists and Moshiri decided to break it, so what? The financial penalty would surely be less than the cost of the damage the current setup has done over the last seven years.

I’m not sure why an outside investor would need to be involved in order to break such a contract.

Like many Evertonians over the last few weeks I’ve been supportive of the fans’ calls for changes at board level. The Mail article has certainly galvanised my thoughts. We don’t necessarily need everybody to know but these pissing contests between Moshiri and Kenwright need to stop, and we probably also need an experienced CEO with a decent track record. DBB is very serious, very intelligent woman but her sole appointment as a CEO has been a disaster from a business point of view. The CEO of any other company would have been given the boot by now.

Jerome Shields
13 Posted 27/01/2023 at 23:51:27
What a load of crap? Innocent Bill the Evertonian somehow on trying his best has had to cope with decisions that ignore his wise words, football knowledge and his love of Everton.

Things are in disarray around him, none his fault,the result of his naivity. He is a die-hard a fan, a Evertonian and our brother.It along the lines of Moshiri saying everybody in football loves Bill.

Barrett Baxendale has just surpassed herself.

The truth is as Chairman of Everton Bill has been a unmitigated disaster, which inevitably result in the situation that Everton now finds itself.Bill and his actions have been a major causes of Everton s repeated woes and played a large part of management that resulted in them.

Eric Myles
14 Posted 28/01/2023 at 07:05:44
Joe #12, maybe it's like that NXVIM cult or the Scientology cult.

When Moshiri agreed to keep BK on he had to give him photos of a perverse sexual act that would ruin him if it was ever exposed.

Alan McGuffog
15 Posted 28/01/2023 at 09:10:14
Totally off topic but here goes...

Trying to escape things Everton and the cold weather, I booked into a hotel in the Canaries. Bloody place had a TV and I thought I'd be safe tuning into a programme about Tommy Steele.

But guess who was leading the talking heads yes our favourite impresario himself. He finished his piece by describing the aforementioned Mr Steele as his hero. And here was I thinking it was the Cannonball Kid. It's almost as if you can't trust what he says… 😶

Andrew Heffernan
16 Posted 28/01/2023 at 10:52:09
- so basically nothing changed when Moshiri joined as he didn't bring his own team - this has just confirmed my worst fears and explains the malaise.

- Sasha being blocked from implementing any meaningful changes

- not recognising your own faults is a terrible personality trait, and is now seriously impacting the clubs ability to function - time to let go Bill.

Barry Rathbone
17 Posted 28/01/2023 at 11:54:27
What people don't seem to grasp about being chairman of a famous football club is it opens doors hitherto closed to mere mortals.

Bill's theatre business must have prospered enormously from his name dropping of the games great and the good over the years. Deals would have slipped smoothly into place as words like "leave it to me I'll speak to SAF, Arsene, Roman etc and get the tickets. I'll arrange a meet if you want" oozed from his lips.

The idea such a facilitating mechanism will ever be given up whilst he still trades just doesn't make sense. The theatre business is entirely based on facilitating deals and his ace up the sleeve has always been being a Prem Chairman.

He's here till he pops his clogs

Bill Fairfield
18 Posted 28/01/2023 at 12:01:36
Nothing we didn’t know already.
John Pendleton
19 Posted 28/01/2023 at 16:19:24
Bill should now be no more than a meet and greet - until he’d go off script ‘Of course, I ran this place so differently…’

No-one with a 1.3% stake in anything should be setting and reinforcing its culture. The days of local butchers running the local club are well over.

Does he see himself as our saviour? There’s more evidence under his watch that he thinks we’re more a plucky pub team than a global business.

To say he truly loves the place yet runs it how he does is to suggest no one would do it better. I fear daddy’s got Munchausen by proxy.

Peter Carpenter
20 Posted 28/01/2023 at 16:27:32
Haha, that's funny, Alan. You can run but you can't hide from 'The Cult of Bill.'
Bill Gall
21 Posted 28/01/2023 at 17:21:07
Sorry I cant believe that a Billionaire backed by a silent partner wanting to buy Everton could be held to ransom by a shareholder who only owned 26% of listed shares. The biggest contributor of shares to Moshiri at that time was R Earl who sold him all 23% of his shares with J.Woods selling 13% of his shares B.K. sold him 13% of his shares. That was in 2016 and with 49% of shares that made Moshiri majority shareholder and owner. it was 2 yrs later 2018 when J Woods sold him the rest of his shares along with A.Abercromby and B.K with some more of his shares that gave him 68.8 % of shares, that made him outright owner.
I believe he left B.K. as Chairman because he thought he was doing a good job at Everton at the time,and going on his latest comments he still believes he is doing a good job, and we all know different.
Moshiri has gone on to own over 92 % of shares; and people with that type of money rely on lawyers and accountants to go over contracts before signing them, and I doubt if they would allow someone to dictate personnel terms that could become a problem later on.
Barry Hesketh
22 Posted 28/01/2023 at 17:26:06
According to a tweet via the Esk's account, Just out of interest, not Everton related. Usmanov has announced his retirement from "active work"
Alan McGuffog
23 Posted 28/01/2023 at 17:50:15
As have most of our squad
John Raftery
24 Posted 28/01/2023 at 23:06:48
It is interesting to read ‘ Ryazantsev’s efforts to move the club forward were blocked.’ I don’t know what those efforts amounted to but I was never impressed by his contributions at the General Meetings of shareholders. He was the Finance Director for five years up to July 2021. On his watch the club ran into serious financial trouble from which it is only just extricating itself.

One of the biggest challenges facing Thelwell and Dyche will be managing upwards. Their many predecessors have struggled with that owing to their own naïveté and inexperience as well as the blurred lines of accountability and decision making.

Colin Glassar
25 Posted 28/01/2023 at 23:29:52
Bill is the alpha and the omega. He is the destroyer of worlds. He will never get his knighthood now.
Peter Carpenter
26 Posted 29/01/2023 at 09:14:07
Not sure which thread to post this on; it's a reply from the BBC after I complained about the Lineker/Wright comments on MOTD after the Southampton game.

Thank you for contacting us about the Everton discussion in Match Of The Day on Jan 14.

Prior to the Southampton game, the club issued an official statement saying that the board of directors had been told to stay away due to a “real and credible threat” to their safety.

Club sources also claimed that Chief Executive Denise Barrett-Baxendale had been put in a headlock at a previous game.

This story was widely reported by a number of media outlets on the day, both nationally and locally to Merseyside.

It wasn’t until 48hrs later that Merseyside Police revealed no threats or incidents had been reported to them ahead of the Southampton match.

During MOTD, Ian Wright and Gary Lineker both defended the right for fans to protest and the match edit and post-match interviews were careful not to link the peaceful protests at Goodison to the story about the board.

The programme was acting on the information released by Everton that day but should have made it clear that the stories were coming out of the club and had not been brought to the attention of Merseyside Police.

Ian has since addressed his own comments on social media and issued a personal apology to Everton fans - (The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites)

We’ve discussed your concerns with the MOTD production team and any future discussions about Everton will clearly attribute any claims relating to the running of the club as such.

Thanks again and wishing you all the best,

BBC Complaints Team

Peter Neilson
27 Posted 29/01/2023 at 09:24:15
Peter I received the same response on Thursday. Good that it seems quite a number of us contacted them. On re-reading it they seem to be saying as it was reported by other media outlets they could present it as being fact and not a rumour. Brilliant reasoning.
Terry Downes
28 Posted 29/01/2023 at 09:46:48
The cult of Bill good job you spelt cult right Lyndon or it would of been old news ?
Trevor Powell
29 Posted 30/01/2023 at 23:57:44
Is Kenwright EFC's answer to the narcissistic Johnson and Trump? Ticks some of the boxes below: Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder may lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence, they are not sure of their self-worth and are easily upset by the slightest criticism.
Barry Hesketh
30 Posted 06/02/2023 at 15:47:59
I've just been reading a political article and the Dunning-Kruger Effect was mentioned.

People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it.

Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd.

Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities.

It explains a lot about our glorious leaders, doesn't it?

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