Dyche undertakes forensic examination of Calvert-Lewin's condition

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Sean Dyche has revealed the extent to which he will delve into Dominic Calvert-Lewin’s health history, lifestyle and psyche in an effort to solve the striker’s ongoing injury problems.

The one-time England international was one of the hottest goalscoring properties in the country after becoming the first Everton player since Romelu Lukaku to score more than 20 goals in a season for the Blues during Carlo Ancelotti’s only full season as manager at Goodison Park.

Calvert-Lewin scored 23 Premier League goals during the Italian’s 18-month tenure but suffered a serious quad muscle injury in August 2021 that sidelined him for four months.

He endured a stop-start return to the side that season, that saw Ancelotti’s successor, Rafael Benitez sacked in January 2022 and Frank Lampard installed instead and Calvert-Lewin would make just 12 more starts that season, although he returned in time to score the dramatic winner against Crystal Palace in May last year that secured Everton’s top-flight membership for another year.

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Calvert-Lewin’s injury woes were not behind him, though, as he suffered a serious knee injury just three days before the 2022-23 campaign kicked off and he returned to action in October he was still feeling pain in the knee by the time the break for the World Cup came around, an issue that had been compounded by a niggling hamstring strain and a dislocated shoulder.

He was back in the starting XI on New Year’s Eve when the Toffees held Manchester City to a 1-1 draw and started each of Everton’s Premier League games up to win over Arsenal in Dyche’s first match in charge a fortnight ago but hasn’t trained since.

Dyche rated his chances of facing Leeds tomorrow as “improbable” during his press conference at Finch Farm yesterday, saying that the 25-year-old needs time to properly heal but in his interview with print media afterwards, the manager went into more detail about the almost forensic work he plans to do to get to the heart of Calvert-Lewin’s ongoing injury niggles.

“I’m speaking to Dominic, speaking to the medics, the sports science team, getting the stats and facts, training programmes, distance covered, high speed running, how many kilometres in a week, what’s his diet like, what’s his lifestyle like, what car does he drive, what mattress does he use, how many hours does he sleep at night.

“That’s learning about people but the biggest thing is what’s in [the head]. That’s the hard part.

“I don’t think he’s been properly fit along this situation because of his own will and demand to keep playing; thinking ‘I want to get out there, I want to keep playing.’

“Some players don’t know until after the event that they’ve put so much demand on themselves that they weren’t quite ready. We’re trying to align the process of getting the injury right and getting him right so that he doesn’t break down and can keep going, but that’s what you try and do with every player.

“The human body is built in many different ways and not every player is bulletproof forever. Some are, some are not, some have ups and downs, some have periods and then they get fit and you almost can’t remember it.

“It’s hard to explain but when you’re a player you know the difference when something is not right or something when you go ‘no I can shake that.’ It takes a number of years to learn about your own body, younger players don’t often have it but older players do and Dominic is in that middle bracket of course, you’re usually 25ish plus when you learn that.

“There’s also scientific feedback, medic feedback, my feedback and his feedback, everything goes in the pot. You can’t just leave it forever and have a one-month injury that takes three months just to be sure. But there has to be a balance where you go ‘where are we at when you are really, really fit and clear' and that’s what we’re searching for.”


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Jim Bennings
1 Posted 17/02/2023 at 06:09:25
With two years of injuries persisting, something certainly needs looking into I agree with Dyche.

Regardless of what does/doesn't offer when he's on the pitch, we have put blind faith in Calvert-Lewin as our first choice striker but it's now bordering on ridiculous if he can't get himself free from this two year spell.

The cold hard facts are that he's scored just two goals since August 2021, we are now sitting here at the end of February 2023.

There's only so long that we as a football club can afford to allow that to continue.

Danny O’Neill
2 Posted 17/02/2023 at 06:32:57
Without being any kind of expert, I'll have a view on that.

I personally think we battered Dominic and overused him as a young player. Compounded by his style of play, fatigue and injury was always going to happen.

I always remember being told to be honest when coming back from injury. If you're not fit, then don't say you can play.

But I never played anywhere near this standard. With the medical staff we have, you would think they would know it. Maybe Mr Dyche has recognised this.

The player will always want to play.

Don't bring him back until he is ready, otherwise we will have an early retirement on our hands because we will break him.

Come back when you are fit and ready Dominic. We want you and need you.

Jim Bennings
3 Posted 17/02/2023 at 06:42:47
Danny 3

That's a fair enough assessment, but we also should have been ruthless last summer in the transfer market and look for an actual replacement and almost ruled out Calvert-Lewin for this season.

We aren't a charity and can't afford more weeks, months or whatever waiting on a player that is offering very little to the cause, through no fault of his own I accept that.

As I say, two goals since August 2021, and we still call him our first choice striker, how long can that go on logically?

As it stands now I'd be surprised if Dominic plays 6 more games the rest of this season, that could actually cost us in the relegation battle.

The club is at fault here for not seeing what most of us saw last summer in regards to this injury.

I said back then, it's not about getting Calvert-Lewin fit, it's about keeping him fit, and the plan has failed fantastically.

Danny O’Neill
4 Posted 17/02/2023 at 07:18:08
Equally fair assessment Jim. How we didn't have back up for Calvert-Lewin smacks of the mismanagement most of us talk about regularly.

Us mortals could see it.

How the "experts" couldn't is beyond me.

Leeds tomorrow and young Ellis needs support, not left alone like he was for long periods at Anfield.

Garry Martin
5 Posted 17/02/2023 at 07:31:37
"All your eggs in one basket" comes to mind with this player.
How can a premiership club be so naive and complacent, for 2 years, waiting for him to get fit and get his 'head right'.
Philip McKeown
6 Posted 17/02/2023 at 08:40:45
I feel you are being very diplomatic and fair with your thoughts and approach on this gents.

I played professionally for several years before an injury put an end to my career (a proper one).

During that time, regularly we had someone within the dressing room that we all knew could play if they REALLY wanted too, but allowed themselves not too because they didn't feel right or weren't 100% in their minds.

I can't help but feel that watching Dyche interview yesterday, his comments would have been different whilst longer in post and in different circumstances. It reminded me of Fergie when Saha joined us "Some players think they are injured"
I am basing that on what he actually did say and the tone of his comments

DCL cannot be relied upon and needs shipped out, along with Mina and anyone else not up for the fight regardless whether we stay up or not.

Gary Neville spot on, if we continue to wait for Calvert-Lewin, we could be relegated by then

Neil Cremin
7 Posted 17/02/2023 at 09:02:56
Everton fc track record on managing injured players is appalling. No need to name names
Mark Ryan
8 Posted 17/02/2023 at 09:04:42
Said it a hundred times ( well perhaps 5 ) but he's good at best, average mostly, injured mainly. Sell him asap or perhaps give him away if need be. He is a distraction. Same as the RS sicknote, name escapes me, Sturridge ? waste of space. Get playing Simms, Dobbin when he's back, anyone
Robert Tressell
9 Posted 17/02/2023 at 09:09:13
Philip, Dyche seems to suggest also that DCLs injury is as a result of trying too hard to play (possibly without being properly physically conditioned). DCL has talked of mental health issues - but these are in the context of depression from not being able to play.

Quadricep and hamstring have troubled many careers. The latter especially when players were required to overplay when injured.

How do you really distinguish your "proper" injury from his?

Martin Reppion
10 Posted 17/02/2023 at 09:25:09
When talking about the mismanagement of not signing a replacement for DCL in the last two transfer windows that I see on here regularly, people assume that good strikers want to come to Everton.
We have been linked with every available and not so available striker for 2 years. Only Kudos actually wanted to sign for us but his club wouldn't sanction the move.
We've been left to bring in those that had no real option.
Lack of money, our perilous situation and in one case, apparently, our grim northern location have all been a factor.
I am not ignoring the shambles that is and has been our board and management. But we must accept we are no longer in the 80s when we were the team every player wanted to join.
We can only shop at Netto and hope to unearth a gem or two until things get better.
Paul Tran
11 Posted 17/02/2023 at 09:30:44
Very easy to point the finger at DCL and call him a malingerer (evidence, please!).

Whenever I see an injured player come back, then quickly get injured, then come back, then get a different injury, I start thinking about how well his fitness is being managed, by himself and the medical team/management. The management has the ultimate say in these matters. They'd be the people I'd pose the questions to.

Philip McKeown
12 Posted 17/02/2023 at 09:54:17
I knew people would jump to his defence. Fair bit of virtue signalling going on here.
Im not calling him a malingerer(nice word though), I'm calling him a s***house.
To suggest its management fault I disagree with too, he is clearly evidencing he will not play if he is not ready !
To answer your question Robert, my injury was a vertebrae injury that ended my career instantly.
Tony McNulty
13 Posted 17/02/2023 at 09:58:51
As I recall, Shankly (the man who used to hang around our training ground after he retired) would always build his teams around three key positions: goalkeeper; centre half; and centre forward.

We have been quite unlucky in recent years in that the incumbents of two of those key positions (Mina and DCL) are often injured.

I am pretty sure that if both had been more regularly available we would never have ended up at the foot of the table.

Iain Johnston
14 Posted 17/02/2023 at 10:05:58
Under Lampard we played with 1 striker, the wasn't a cat in hells chance of another consistent goal scorer coming in to simply warm a plastic bench seat waiting for a chance.

We haven't had that kind of money for 2/3 years now.

Most of the other teams are overly reliant on one striker, they don't tend to have another of equal quality hanging around.

What would happen to Brentford if Toney was injured? You take Kane out of the Spurs starting 11 and they're an also ran.

Chelsea can't buy a goal, Man Utd rely on Rashford.

DCL has scored more Premier League goals in fewer games than Richarlison. Where are we finding the money to replace or even match that?

Simple answer is, we're not and since 2021 never would have. Now players have been sold to simply balance the books.

It's shit or bust now. We have Simms & hopefully, for me anyway, Gray alongside him.

We can bang on about the arseholes in the boardroom and the Monaco boardwalk, what should have been, what could have been but it won't change the here and now nor will it change our short term future... our Premier League survival.

Bottom line is... if we can't beat Leeds on Saturday and then Aston Villa?

It's over.

Have we got what it takes to beat Forest & Palace away, Brentford & Fulham at home? I mean, wins is what it'll take, nothing less... and they're the only realistic games we may take points from.

Dave Abrahams
15 Posted 17/02/2023 at 10:12:19
Phillip (12), I don’t think people are jumping to defend Dominic they just have a different opinion to yours.

Dominic was pushed relentlessly by different managers, when he first started playing in the first team, used on both wings defending and attacking as well as in the striker roll where he scored and assisted goals as well as getting a few penalties for the team. he gave his all for seventy minutes v Arsenal before he was substituted like he did in most games he played in my opinion.

I don’t think he has ever been a shithouse when he has been on the field for Everton, he has competed has much as he has been able to do and more than a lot of Everton players, in the same period, have done.

Danny O’Neill
16 Posted 17/02/2023 at 10:15:56
It's never over Iain. Never.

Very good perspective spoken from experience Phillip.

I seem to recall a remark about Saha during his Everton period. Very talented player but apparently would not play unless he was 100% fit in his own mind.

I obviously don't know, but I am suspecting Calvert-Lewin has been the reverse and he's been trying to play when he hasn't been fit.

Head wise; I don't know. We all have issues in life and modern footballers, especially young ones are kept in the bubble of the academies and deprived of a normal life from a young age.

Get back Dominic and be an Everton hero. Just as you were last May.

Joe McMahon
17 Posted 17/02/2023 at 10:28:24
Danny as we all know Saha was a very talented forward, and he could shoot!. The only reason SAF let him leave was his injury record, a bit like Darren Gibson. A bit of a theme me thinks.

Not signing an additional proven goalscorer even when Richie was still here is dereliction of duty by the club. And boy are we gonna pay the price.

Tony Everan
18 Posted 17/02/2023 at 10:32:44
It’s good news that they are trying everything in the book, and then some , to try and get him fit. Is there a world renowned specialist that can look at his situation that can be flown in , or DCL can be flown out to ? Has this already been done ? Our medical team will be doing their best but this one is beyond everyone at the club.

It was madness and an act of self harm not to get a quality direct backup/ challenger in for Calvert-Lewin in the summer. This was the priority signing to be made, then any others following it as a bonus. Another opportunity incredibly squandered in January. It defies belief, how can this have happened? No other club is run with his level of incompetence, it’s the basics.

On to Ellis Simms, it’s a big task and challenge for him. Everyone needs to give him full backing no matter what, he gets some goals wherever he has been once he has settled in. If Dyche can get a bit more out of him he might just, out of the blue, come good for us.

COYBLUES! Give us the Arsenal performance and we will beat Leeds.

Danny O’Neill
19 Posted 17/02/2023 at 10:34:36
You mention Gibson Joe. What a wasted career. A talented midfielder who gave us that rarity of looking for a forward pass.

I think his demise was more off the pitch lifestyle choices.

I liked Saha. I thought he'd won us the FA Cup for a minute!!

Roger Helm
20 Posted 17/02/2023 at 10:37:26
He is going through a bad patch but we have had injury prone players in the past who have come good, not least Peter Reid. SD sounds like he is doing a sensible evaluation so hopefully he will be ok in the longer term. If so, and if he is used properly, he should be back to 20 plus goals a season.

I can’t see anyone buying him at present anyway.

Si Pulford
21 Posted 17/02/2023 at 10:40:20
No one knows what’s going on with DCL mentally or physically. If I was a player who had just scored 20 odd goals and had bagged a couple for England I know I wouldn’t be ‘calling in sick…’

These lads have ten years at the very top if they’re lucky. DCL has lost one fifth of that before he’s 25, can we not have empathy for him rather than judge him from afar and make baseless pokes about his professionalism.

He was unplayable at times before his big injury. Looked like the real deal. Was linked with big money moves to some of the biggest clubs in Europe. Now some on here are saying we should literally give him away. That’s how badly his career has turned round. I’m absolutely certain this wouldn’t be his choice.

Tony Abrahams
22 Posted 17/02/2023 at 10:47:53
People will argue, but for me, I’m just glad we have got such a real common sense manager, for what is going to be a very difficult few months.

He’s going to leave no stone unturned, which should or should not, in some peoples eyes, be music to Dominic’s ears.

I can’t remember Lewin, ever being a malingerer before his first serious injury, so if he’s hearing his manager, having sympathy and suggesting that his problems haven’t been helped, by him rushing back to soon, or playing when he obviously wasn’t ready (something I’m sure we have all witnessed) then having a manager who seems to understand him, might be what the player has been missing?

If Dominic is not that interested anymore, then I’m certain Dyche’s thorough research, will identify this, but if he his, then hopefully Dyche’s very sensible due diligence, will bring about real rewards?

There’s a lot of lip service spoken in football, and anyone who doesn’t believe the game is littered with people who are full of shite, hasn’t got a proper perspective on it imo, so it is very refreshing to hear our manager, talking with so much sense, and if he’s true to his word, one thing we should never have to worry about, is the managers work ethic.

Denis Richardson
23 Posted 17/02/2023 at 10:50:36
Only ourselves to blame end of the day. Going back at least 15 odd years, Everton have seemed to have an allergy to strikers and we've rarely had 2 (never mind more) that you'd class as premiership standard. There were numerous games under Moyes when we effectively played with no striker.

I just don't really understand it when, regardless of tactics, formation, league standing, the simple objective of a football match is to try and score goals. Strikers are there to do that so why we've never really invested in them I don't know. It's not a surprise we don't score that many goals.

Todays situation is beyond belief. We've known since at least January 2022 that we needed another striker. This situation was made more extreme when Richarlison left (albeit we knew well before he'd go last summer). We didn't sign a striker in the summer yet ploughed tens of millions into the midfield and defence. Then we get to January, having already had DCL injured for most of the first half of the season, and we sign literally no one. We had the whole of the World Cup to line up a striker to join 1st Jan, well before we were near the drop zone, never mind in it, and yet we fail to do so. Even a loan would have been infinitely better than bringing no one in.

The entire recruitment and scouting staff at EFC need to be sacked and a whole new team brought in. I simply cannot believe in two transfer windows and the 2 months for the World Cup we were unable to find one single striker to join the club. Every other club in the bottom 3rd of the league brought in new players, even bottom placed Southhampton.

Beggars belief.

What would Everton do? indeed!

Danny O’Neill
24 Posted 17/02/2023 at 10:59:21
Let's hope Dominic can turn it around and I personally wish him the best as it will benefit Everton.

I've watched Andy King score a screamer to give us our first derby win in years. Everton are Magic and that iconic green banner. I watched Sharp score the first goal at Wembley to take us on a path to glory and then embarrass Lawrenson to score "that" goal.

Andy Gray's strange header at grass level when it looked easier to side foot it into the net. But hey, it went in!

Pat Van Den Hauwe scoring a rare one to send us home cheering the champions on the long trip back from Norwich.

Tim Cahill's header at Anfield.

Kevin Sheedy. Just Kevin Sheedy. I'll leave it there.

I've had some great moments watching Everton. Too many to recount. But I can't emphasise the emotion I felt when Dominic put that thumping diving header in the back of the net against Palace last May. I was almost crying. The Palace fans were celebrating with me - genuinely.

Let's hope Dyche, who is honest speaking, can help the lad get back to where he can be. Whatever the reasons are, and we don't know them, he and the staff will know better than us and will help him.

Tomorrow is about the 11 on the pitch and those on the bench.

Dennis Stevens
25 Posted 17/02/2023 at 11:11:03
It seems we've largely played with a lone centre forward for about 20 years now, yet through the reign of successive managers we keep bringing in forwards who are not suited to that role rather than ensuring we have at least 2 players in the squad who can do the job. Over dependence on one player creates huge pressure for that player to be out on the pitch. It's not always the best way forward in the long term.

In the meantime, let's give Simms the chance to find his feet at this level. It should have happened a while ago, imo.

Philip McKeown
26 Posted 17/02/2023 at 11:17:17
I don't think Dom has been pushed relentlessly.
194 appearances in 7 seasons or Everton would substantiate that. At his most 19/20 he played 40 games league and cup.
I do agree that when he is on the field he doesn't malinger ! However, that's not really the discussion

9 Feb
Dominic Calvert-Lewin is a major doubt for the Merseyside Derby on Monday. The striker is yet to return to training after feeling tightness in his hamstring during the win over Arsenal. Scan results revealed no major injury however Calvert-Lewin is still feeling discomfort 🔵

Re the above. Apparently, an internal club source who has been a generally reliable source of info over the past few years, however before the virtue signallers query the legitimacy. I cannot quantify it, just share it with the intention to inform everyone's opinion in this democratical forum.

Steve Brown
27 Posted 17/02/2023 at 11:19:23
The club assessment has found that he has been sleeping on a mattress in his car.
John Boswell
28 Posted 17/02/2023 at 11:20:10
I love this site and it is always my first thought every day. I love the diversity of opinion and agree that we all see things slightly differently. My opinion of Dominic is that we have an excellent player, a fine physical athlete, who is our ONLY proven goalscorer of Premier League quality. A man who wants to play for his club, for his teammates and the fans. Sadly, with no quality alternative to share the load, he will take to the field of play to do what he can, despite not being fully fit. This causes injuries to worsen, poor performance, missing matches and being called a sick note. I think we are all agreed that we are short in attacking options and who we hold responsible for this shortage. The difficulty with DCLs fitness has been caused, in no small way, by the failure to recruit and retain quality attacking options. COYB.
Tony Abrahams
29 Posted 17/02/2023 at 11:32:19
His head might have gone whilst he’s had these injuries Philip, and another thing that I think is very noticeable, is how stiff Dominic, has looked since he returned.

Watching Lampard’s last game in charge against West Ham, then DCL looked very stiff, and almost like he was scared to stretch. He looked too heavy, and offered nothing because of this imo.

Two weeks later, Dyche’s first game, and Dominic played like he had life. He won headers, he tried to hold it up, he tried working the Chanel a couple of times, kept two defenders occupied and even had the confidence to try a little spin, and this seemed to confirm what our new manager had said about him, that he was actually a lot closer than he thought he was?

Maybe the extra work has took a bit out of him, because for the first time this season, he looked like a proper footballer again, imo, or maybe he still lacks confidence in his body, and this is the real issue.

I’m no sports scientist, but looking in from the outside, the only thing that I’d have DCL doing, is running. He would run in the morning, stretch then rest, then he would run in the afternoon and then he would stretch some more, and he would repeat this every single day until he could run without having any fear.

Christy Ring
30 Posted 17/02/2023 at 11:32:39
Calvert-Lewin always gives 100%, look at his performance against Arsenal, if’s he’s a shithouse, we could do with a few more. The problem is, he’s being overused when not fit because the club didn’t buy another no.9, and sold Richarlison. Even Benitez played him with a broken toe. Dyche is now trying to get him fully fit mentally and physically.
Robert Tressell
31 Posted 17/02/2023 at 11:36:19
Thanks Philip. Very sorry to hear about your injury which is obviously very serious. I'm still not sure why that makes DCLs injury any less proper though?

As to virtue signalling - what does that even relate to in this case? I'm not especially fond of DCLs daft outfits if thats what you're getting at but the same is true of many fashionista bellends who play football. Neymar, Pogba, David Beckham, Ronaldo, etc etc. Are these guys all shithouses when their hamstring goes?

Or is it only a proper injury if you wear conventional trousers?

Tim Marchant
32 Posted 17/02/2023 at 11:38:20
DCL admitted a while back that the serious quad injury really did a number on him, mentally. I slipped a disc 11 years ago, and it still niggles me, but MRIs, Xrays, Physios all say nothing wrong. Is it phantom pains or a physical manifestation of a psychological worry which is plaguing him?

He's good, and to be honest our best bet at escaping the trapdoor this season, Maupay seems to have left his shooting boots at Brighton, Simms doesn't have the premier league smarts (He's switched on so it will come in time), or pure raw talent to nullify this. (Being isolated and starved of service doesn't help either) Loaning out Tommy Cannon was a mistake I think as well.

Philip McKeown
33 Posted 17/02/2023 at 12:16:42
Thanks Robert , your comments were warmly received, even if they did omit an air of disengunuity

I am absolutely disinterested in Calvert-Lewin's lifestyle choices away from football , especially as what you have mentioned has no bearing whatsoever on his availability for Everton. Maybe a better mattress will help though.

That said, your attempt to entice me into virtue signalling about this matter has failed ! ha


A fellow Ragged trousered philanthropist

Daniel A Johnson
34 Posted 17/02/2023 at 12:28:16
It's hard to deny that a fully fit DCL is a handful for any defence. But that's the problem now we can't get him on the pitch. Dyche my have sympathy for him but he now knows he can't ever rely on him.
John Raftery
35 Posted 17/02/2023 at 13:51:16
A player may well be declared injury free but unless he can participate in full training for at least a couple of weeks he is more likely to pick up another injury. As Tony Abrahams points out the player needs to be able to undertake a regime of running, stretching, resting repeatedly until he is properly conditioned.

Knee, calf, hamstring and quad strains are often related to back and hip malfunctions.
Treatment of the immediate issue such as a hamstring strain may well get a player back on the pitch within three weeks but if there is an underlying musculoskeletal weakness the injury will more than likely recur.

These problems seem especially common among taller players. Duncan Ferguson was an example of someone who would be in and out, sometimes flying in training for a few days before breaking down the day before a match.

Dyche is spot on in trying to get to the root of Dominic’s problems. The comments about the player being a malingerer or worse seem cretinous to me. There may have been doubts about the level his ability to reach the very top of the game but I don’t think there are any grounds for doubting the level of the player’s ambition to do so.

Dave Williams
36 Posted 17/02/2023 at 14:08:03
If he is still driving a Lamborghini then that should go! I had a low car a while ago- nothing like a Lamborghini I would add- and it played havoc with my hamstrings.
Jerome Shields
37 Posted 17/02/2023 at 14:10:58
Dyche is just having a good look at a Injured player and what he is doing and those that are training and looking after him are doing.He will probably do that with all the players and those involved in their management.It is a good thing, since he looks like he will leave no stone unturned and will make decisions in regarding to their training, selection and whether they should be kept or not.It also means that those who are managing the player in the Club will know that they are going to be held accountable.
Kieran Kinsella
38 Posted 17/02/2023 at 14:24:29
"Malingerer" is a tough title to nab at Everton and I don't think DCL has done little enough to earn that dubious honor. Surely Slaven Bilic still holds the title, with AVDM a close second. You've got a whole range of others thereafter including Dunc, James, Gibson. DCL would need several years of skiving off to offset his playing record to this point. And even then, we'd need some proof that he is actually skiving, drunk, hungover, in a hot tub on a jet etc.
Jon Harding
39 Posted 17/02/2023 at 14:26:36
I feel really sorry for Dom. I can't believe for a minute he wants to be injured rather than playing. He seems like a great lad to me from the little I see of him.
He's not that tall at 6'2 (1.87m) but you don't see many really tall footballers do you? Dan Burn at Newcastle is an exception at 6'6. Look at Mina. 6'5 so his bones have grown to a point where his muscles must be constantly under strain. So injuries are common place. My sons are are 6'6 and 6'8 and always have niggles despite not playing top level sport.
I don't know who Jimmy Anderson (England and Lancs cricketer) uses for sports science but we should get them onboard to help Dom. Apparently Jimmy does little if any training these days bar stretching - accepted he is 40, but he's like a gazelle still.
Anyone remember Dean Macey? We all thought he was our next Daley Thompson but a succession of injuries did for his career. Or maybe Daley just trained and competed despite the pain and injuries - mind over matter? I often think Dom looks more like a decathlete than a footballer in terms of build.
Anyhow, the whole situation is terribly sad for Dom, the team and us fans. It could not have come at a worse time for the club unfortunately. But please don't blame the young lad for all our woes.
I still hope Simms can do the business this season then along with Dobbin take us forward next season.
Tony Abrahams
40 Posted 17/02/2023 at 14:32:15
I think this was the first place Benitez met real problems inside the club Jerome, although I think you might know a little bit more than me about this, mate!

It’s gone now, but I think playing with a broken toe, might have contributed in Dominic, getting a much more serious injury Christy, but what is a manager supposed to do when he’s got such limited striking options?

I remember us murdering Brighton, but then losing Mina, Lewin and Richarlison, and I don’t think we have really recovered since then?

Kunal Desai
41 Posted 17/02/2023 at 15:10:17
Pivotal two weekends isn't it. I feel 4 points from the next two games is an absolute must. Anything less and we are dropping behind the curve on ppg on 24 played. Next two fixtures are huge.
James Flynn
42 Posted 17/02/2023 at 15:12:53
Jerome (37) - I think you have it right there.

Dyche would be doing the same with the entire roster, not just Dominic. But Dominic is the player he's mostly being asked about.

Jay Harris
43 Posted 17/02/2023 at 15:42:07
For the prosecution most players are not 100% fit and play with knocks or carrying injury.

For the defence this would seem to be at the root of Dominics problems.

He is very athletic and relied on that to put himself about mainly as the lone striker. If he was carrying muscle injuries he has no doubt put too much of a demand on certain of his limbs and is now suffering for it.

A bit of encouragement and sympathy would go a long way to aiding this lad's recovery instead of the ridiculous comments that some posters have made.

Tony Abrahams
44 Posted 17/02/2023 at 15:50:55
I honestly think the speed of the game nowadays, probably means that it’s very hard for players to play, unless they are at least at 95% of their fitness levels. Players must obviously still play through the pain barrier at times, but I don’t think it’s something that is as easy at it used to be when the pitches were heavy, and the game was a little bit slower?
Kieran Kinsella
45 Posted 17/02/2023 at 15:58:43

It's a good point. Think about someone like Mick Quinn. He was like the creature from the swamp thing. All he had to do was find a small patch of dry ground in the mud pit around the goal and wait for the ball to get stuck in the mud within reach. Could you imagine him being a professional now playing on these carpets with the floater balls they use?

James Flynn
46 Posted 17/02/2023 at 16:01:17
Here, Dyche describes Dominic perfectly:

“I don’t think he’s been properly fit along this situation because of his own will and demand to keep playing; thinking ‘I want to get out there, I want to keep playing.’

“Some players don’t know until after the event that they’ve put so much demand on themselves that they weren’t quite ready."

Tony Abrahams
47 Posted 17/02/2023 at 16:07:37
My favorite ever Everton player was Peter Reid, Kieran, but somehow I don’t think he would be anywhere near as effective today, as he was when he played for us? Reid played with great intelligence, but the speed of the game nowadays, makes me think that this great player from the past, would find it so much harder today?

It’s a contentious one, especially because I’d love him to be in our team tomorrow, and thinking about him playing with a broken bone in his foot, when Maradona, had him running on quicksand, makes me remember how brave and honest, Reidy was.

Jamie Crowley
48 Posted 17/02/2023 at 16:20:52
Dominic Calvert-Lewin, quite unfortunately, has been placed in the Yeri Mina camp for me.

You can have all the talent in the world, but if you are continually injured and therefore don't play, you're definably not an asset and officially a drain on resources.

Good health is part of the game. We simply must trade Calvert-Lewin and Mina, get as much money for them as possible, and move on.

Maybe their injuries are tragic, maybe not. I don't care. The health track record for both players is beyond shit. We're in a relegation battle 2 years running – we can't afford passengers.

Pete Clarke
49 Posted 17/02/2023 at 18:17:00
I remember when I was 10 and we’d not long signed David Smallman to join Bob Latchford up front. We were going for the title back then which came to nothing in the end but my memory of David Smallman was that he very rarely played because of injuries. He was one very unlucky player.
His profile was in ‘The Shoot’ one day and his own honest admission was to earn as much money as possible. No mention of titles etc.
Injuries ruined his promising career and he left the club years later without a ripple or ever getting a good run of games.
This feels like a similar situation with DCL although I’ve seen enough of him to say that he’s no great player and mentally nowhere near a top athlete. We may already have seen the best of what he can offer because his head is not in the sport let alone his body. Maybe he’s as disillusioned as we are with the way the club is run and has given up!
As long as they are getting paid massive wages on contracts then they can decide if they are ready themselves. Mina seems a perfect example of this and an example of what’s wrong with modern footballers and how contracts work against the clubs.
As for DCL I don’t think they would have allowed his profile to to be shown in ‘Shoot’ given the choice of dress he chooses. ( pardon the pun )
Iain Johnston
50 Posted 17/02/2023 at 18:27:44
Danny@16 my hope is that Forest implode. 10 of their remaining 16 games are against tough opposition. If we could manage to come away from their ground with 3 points... that's 11 of 16 games.

We need Leeds to take points off those around us too which will inevitably mean they climb the table too.

Our March fixtures scare the crap out of me.

Dennis Stevens
51 Posted 17/02/2023 at 18:57:00
Aye, Iain - Forest are definitely not out of it yet & their Goal Difference is worth a point to anybody who catches them.
Andy Crooks
52 Posted 17/02/2023 at 19:02:15
If virtue signalling means not criticising a player based on conjecture, innuendo and unnamed but reliable club sources, then it really is not a pejorative term.
Ernie Baywood
53 Posted 17/02/2023 at 19:18:01
Does no-one here question Dyche's handling of this situation?

In the space of two weeks he's turned an injury into a soap opera. He's taken an injured young man and questioned firstly his mental toughness (yes he clearly did) and then when there body broke down under pressure he moved to every aspect of his lifestyle.

I'll be honest I have a bad feeling about him. When he speaks it feels like his only interest is telling the world how smart he really is. His interest should have been the player.

Whatever you might think of Dom, the club has a duty of care to him. And his manager is out raving to the press about every aspect of him off the pitch.

Nick Page
54 Posted 17/02/2023 at 19:19:00
Hahaha and so it begins. Two weeks in
Barry Hesketh
55 Posted 17/02/2023 at 19:26:51
Ernie @53

I would agree with you, if I hadn't read a different transcript of the interview, where Dyche was at pains to emphasise that the methods he was employing applied to every member of the playing staff and wasn't specific to Dominic Calvert-Lewin.

Dyche:“ That’s learning about people. The biggest learning is what is in here [points to his head] and that’s the hard part. I’ll get all the information I can and then share it with him. That’s the process for every player, by the way, not just him.”

Brian Harrison
56 Posted 17/02/2023 at 19:33:48
Ernie 53

I think Sean Dyche is aS concerned as everybody else as to why DCL keeps breaking down, so why shouldn't he examine all aspects to try and solve the problem. The medics say the scan shows no damage to the hamstring and I am sure they have access to the best equipment money can buy.

You say he has turned an injury into a soap opera, but I think Dyche is looking at a player who didnt play much last year played even less this season, so maybe it is a soap with no happy ending. How you can blame Dyche for any of this, I don't know. You say he is trying to prove to people how smart he is, I think quite the opposite he is just a hardworking manager who is trying to solve the problem that is EFC.

Billy Bradshaw
57 Posted 17/02/2023 at 19:58:40
Nick 54,totally agree 2 weeks and the natives are getting restless, (53).
Alec Gaston
58 Posted 17/02/2023 at 20:05:32
I think it’s the media that are obsessed with DCL - Dyche was keen to focus on players available and the team not DCL - I don think he is trying to show how smart he is even though I hope he is smart - he will need to be over the next few months
Robert Williams
59 Posted 17/02/2023 at 20:28:34
Dave 15, Pushed relentlessly? I believe it was Botocelli or whatever his name was, that Italian fellow that dropped us for RM that set Calvert Lewin a target of 20 goal a season - surely that should not have been out of his reach. However playing, if he was available, in a shite side there was no way he would achieve that in five seasons - enough to knock him sideways off the cat-walk!
Dave Abrahams
60 Posted 17/02/2023 at 20:36:26
Robert (59) I thought he got sixteen league goals and some more in cup games in one season under Ancelotti, around about the same as Richarlison.
Will Mabon
61 Posted 17/02/2023 at 20:50:47
Like Ernie @ 53, I wonder at the need for Dyche to publicly expand on the purely technical aspects of the injury situation as he has, and this perhaps being an attempted manager psy-op. Never a good idea IMO but who knows.

In line with other examples posted above, Klopp also shared that he thought Sturridge was suffering from an unsuitable mental assessment of his injuries, something along the lines of mistaking normal fatigue, aches and pains, for injury.

Another thought is that as ever, there is more to it that we don't know on the outside. Inherent deficiencies or vulnerabilities to injury in the physique of a professional footballer tend to show a little earlier than at Dom's age (Michael Owen being one) - and one expects knowledge of such would have escaped into the light by now.

As so often with Everton, it all happens at the worst possible time. Fingers crossed!

Mark Ryan
62 Posted 17/02/2023 at 20:52:46
Ffs when the past managers have kept "stum" about players injuries WE go mental asking " why can't they update us?"
Sean Dyche is being open and transparent and the woke brigade say he's being insensitive, too intrusive, blah blah
Grow up.
DCL is as interested as everyone else why his body is failing him. Sean Dyche is trying to say " we are helping the lad and want to get him every help we can" and we have some criticising that ?
Why ? he's not disclosing a rare medical condition or something very personal he's just saying " we want to leave no stone unturned and get Dom some proper help"
Let Dyche manage
Will Mabon
63 Posted 17/02/2023 at 20:55:54
"Mick Quinn... could you imagine him being a professional now playing on these carpets with the floater balls they use? "

Keiran - Imagine? If things go south tomorrow, we could be begging for him to play, come the Villa game.

Will Mabon
64 Posted 17/02/2023 at 21:11:15

I don't know if some of that was for me but I essentially agree - just not when it gets too personal (or can be perceived that way), what's in the head etc. That doesn't need to be out there, it can cause more drama that can be better avoided.

Ray Smith
65 Posted 17/02/2023 at 21:32:29
Guys write this season off.
If we stay up by the skin of our teeth, well done Sean,and I mean that.
Kenwright blocking transfers (if it’s true) under what authority?
If Dyche walks away now (regardless of future results) I wouldn’t blame him.
However, Dyche is nobody’s fool, so let’s get behind the team and take 3 points off of Leeds tomorrow, 1-0 will do.
Neil Copeland
66 Posted 17/02/2023 at 21:55:26
Personally, I think we need to stop planning our survival on Calvert-Lewin and start working out a game plan without him. I agree that it would be great to have him fit and back in the team but we are running the risk of relying on it with no Plan B.

Need to get creative and very quickly, Calvert-Lewin is not coming back fully fit anytime soon.

Kieran Kinsella
67 Posted 17/02/2023 at 22:09:21

Exactly. Plan B — a concept Frank never grasped.

Neil Copeland
68 Posted 17/02/2023 at 22:16:06
Kieran, I would like to see Simms and Maupay building a partnership. Simms isn’t going to cut it as a lone striker but he can score goals.
Kevin Molloy
69 Posted 17/02/2023 at 23:26:46
This feels all of a sudden like a v high pressure game. Not quite 'MUST win' but definitely 'must not lose'.
Derek Knox
70 Posted 18/02/2023 at 00:09:14

Do we know who did what to whom and when, yet?

Ben King
71 Posted 17/02/2023 at 00:12:17
I feel sorry for Calvert-Lewin but I don't want to hear about him anymore unless he's playing for us. Might sound harsh but we can't rely on him.

Agree with others: we hve to make the best of what we've got: that's Simms and Maupay. We have to play both together because either one by himself simply isn't going to cut it.

That obviously leaves us a bit light in midfield. I'd be tempted to play 3 in there if we had attacking full-backs to provide the width. Sadly Patterson still isn't ready and Mykolenko can't attack.

So our ‘options' are a 34-year-old knackered Coleman and a journeyman loanee. (Am I allowed to wallow about our disastrous recruitment at this stage, please? It's literally handicapped us at every turn.)

With a 3-man midfield, perhaps we could play James Rodriguez in a free role to find space and create. Oh no, wait. We shipped him off too.

Hmmm... Demarai Gray as a fluctuating winger it is then.

What could go wrong?

Don Alexander
72 Posted 18/02/2023 at 00:28:16
His choice of garb aside, I suspect that Calvert-Lewin shares with most of us the same opinion of the club hierarchy as any creature with more IQ than an amoeba does.

If he doesn't, his agent will.

So, what's a gifted, sporadic England international 25-year-old centre-forward to do given the perfectly obvious total ineptitude of his employers who've squandered several of his young years and, as a direct consequence, have disabled themselves from any squad improvement for seasons to come?

Does he immediately play some more for the buffoons who run the club? Or does he bide his time in sick bay allowing other knackered or useless players to try to cover for him, confident that his price is right now at it's highest vis-a-vis his length of contact, in the obvious knowledge that his owner will sell anyone and anything for the biggest possible price as soon as possible?

It's a no-brainer to me.

Some people call it "professional" football – more experienced others call it "I'm Alright Jack" selfishness.

Mike Gaynes
73 Posted 18/02/2023 at 01:07:06
DK, at least we know where the bodies were buried!!
Phil Wood
74 Posted 18/02/2023 at 02:30:03
Think it's funny that Sean Dyche was being called 'Sean Dyche' after the Arsenal game but this has now reverted to 'Dyche' from before his appointment and now after the derby defeat.

Christ, we are fickle fans.

Ernie Baywood
75 Posted 18/02/2023 at 03:39:06
What was 'woke' about my post? I basically said I think our current manager is a bit of a weirdo.

There's nothing wrong with leaving no stone unturned to get Dom back to fitness. There's a lot wrong with telling the world at every opportunity that you're doing it. My guess, given his interviews to date, is that he's trying to impress with how modern and sophisticated his techniques are.

I'd rather he worried more about his players and less about himself.

Kieran Kinsella
76 Posted 18/02/2023 at 03:48:35

I think the problem is context. Dyche gets a ton of media questions and they share what creates headlines. I wouldn't say he was trying to sound modern any more than you're woke.

Obviously the elephant in the room is Calvert-Lewin's continuing absence in spite of not one tangible obvious injury. The press are going to hound him on this point and I think he was doing a politician's dance with vague answers, dancing around the point because he's trying to best manage the situation.

If anything, I think Sean isn't trying to be modern; I think he's a bit of a blast from the past. But when managers are required to periodically answer questions from the press, it puts them in a bad spot. We have no fit striker but, as a new employee, he can hardly say “the board fucked up”.

So I think he's just trying to do a diplomatic dance offering vague answers on Calvert-Lewin and avoiding criticizing the board because ultimately he needs both on side to boost our chances of survival.

Steve Brown
77 Posted 18/02/2023 at 05:01:05
Ernie, I agree with you to an extent.

The manager was over-communicating during the press conference about Calvert-Lewin's situation. He might be trying to push him or challenge him, but that should be done in private.

Personally, I think that Dyche is talking a lot as he wants to counter the caricature that built around him at Burnley – he wants to be seen as a technical, modern manager.

I think he has nothing to prove, and he should just concentrate on the job in hand.

Bob Parrington
78 Posted 18/02/2023 at 05:57:35
At least Sean Dyche is not pussy-footing around. He wants answers, needs answers to get his job done. If it's physical, that's one thing… but, if it's mental, that is massively different. Another Dele occurrence?

Mind you, all of us as supporters probably are suffering from a mental breakdown now, too!!!

Bob Parrington
79 Posted 18/02/2023 at 06:09:48
Ernie @ 75,

Have I missed something while running through the previous posts. Where did the "woke" reference come from?

Obviously something is wrong with Calvert-Lewin… and so let's allow the manager to get on with his job in his own way.

Ernie Baywood
80 Posted 18/02/2023 at 08:07:56
See post 62, Bob.

By the way, the idea that his hamstring injury isn't real... where did that come from? I've seen it from El Bobble, but nowhere else. And it's become a stick to beat him with (well one of the sticks, along with his dress sense, mental state and choice of mattress).

It seems pretty obvious that he has a hamstring injury.

Garry Martin
81 Posted 18/02/2023 at 11:15:10
I know its early days, but, I'm already starting to get bored with Dyce's highly technical long winded rambling's, just get the existing players to give 110% in every remaining game, if you can do that the supporters will treat you like a hero - simples !
Iain Johnston
82 Posted 18/02/2023 at 12:12:55
Garry@81. Dyche has to do pressers and the media keep asking him the same questions over and over again to inevitably get the same answers... over and over again.

He's talked about commitment, team performance & work ethic, he's talked about the importance of us fans both home and away.

He's only been here for 2 games, what do you expect him to fill the press conference time talking about?

Garry Martin
83 Posted 18/02/2023 at 14:13:12
Iain@82. Agree with your comments, but, I did start the point by saying "I know its only 2 weeks".
I just feel that Dyce does tend to labour technical isses and makes long winded statements.
Totally respect your comments though and wish Sean Dyce the best.
Scott Robinson
84 Posted 18/02/2023 at 14:35:42
My personal view, for what it's worth, is that Calvert-Lewin's issues are as much mental as physical.

I remember him posting an almost identical message at the end of the season to Richarlison: "Thanks for everything." Well we know who ended up leaving. I think Calvert-Lewin expected he would be gone too.

So he may be trying to get fit; however with his predisposition to injuries, his mind being elsewhere, then the result is that his body is breaking down (mind/body connected).

I would bet that, if he were fit and at another progressive club, he wouldn't be struggling as much.

Bill Rodgers
85 Posted 18/02/2023 at 21:08:35
He's a quitter.
James Marshall
86 Posted 19/02/2023 at 15:38:25
I'm reminded of a young Ryan Giggs back in the 90's. He had tons of back and hamstring issues over a couple of years and as I recall, they pinned it down to his driving position.

He changed his car and a lot of his injuries cleared up. Sounds simple but it's not as silly as it sounds.

Anthony Murphy
87 Posted 27/02/2023 at 16:38:36
Dyche’s presser didnt sound too promising for a DCL return anytime soon

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