Kean completes his permanent move to Juventus

07/03/2023 56comments  |  Jump to last

The purchase clause that mandated that Juventus purchase Moise Kean from Everton was triggered last week which completes the young Italian's move from Goodison Park following a two-year, £6m loan move.

It had been assumed that the £25m deal, which includes a further £2.5m in add-ons, that would take Kean back to Juve, would be triggered at the end of this season but it now transpired the deal was completed without fanfare last Tuesday.

Everton signed Kean as a promising 19-year-old for £25m in 2019 but he struggled to settle in England and was transferred back to Italy on loan in 2021.

He has since had a stop-start career in Serie A and was sent off within 40 seconds of coming on as a substitute over the weekend.

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The sale and interim loan, an arrangement that Juventus tried unsuccessfully to renegotiate last year, represents a profit for Everton despite the initial transfer of Kean to Merseyside not working out as hoped.


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Rob Halligan
1 Posted 07/03/2023 at 17:15:00
So Moise Kean has already completed a permanent deal to Juventus. Hope this was done before his last game, when he came on as a sub and was sent off 40 seconds later…!!

Romeo Agresti from GOAL says the fee is €28m (£24.9m). He initially signed for Juventus in 2021 on a 2-year loan.

John Bourne
2 Posted 07/03/2023 at 17:32:46
Rob Halligan,

That's the best news I have heard all season; Moise Kean makes Neal Maupay look good.

Larry O'Hara
3 Posted 07/03/2023 at 17:54:23
If true, great news
Brian Hennessy
4 Posted 07/03/2023 at 18:04:14
So does this mean our fantastic Board took in the Gordon money and fee for Kean before the transfer window closed and still couldn't bring in a half decent striker?
Ray Roche
5 Posted 07/03/2023 at 18:05:33
Larry, it’s only great news if the money, like Gordon’s or Richarlison’s doesn’t disappear into the black hole behind Bill’s sofa, or spent on lawnmowers or other expenses.
Jeff Armstrong
6 Posted 07/03/2023 at 18:19:07
All incoming monies obviously financing the stadium.
Robert Tressell
7 Posted 07/03/2023 at 18:19:38
Strange situation but like Vlasic, Lookman and Onyekuru - if you buy young and talented players it should be possible to at least make your money back on flops. Might even make a profit.

Mind you, I don't think we should be spending big on young talents. No more than about £15m.

Alan McGuffog
8 Posted 07/03/2023 at 18:21:44
I wouldn't trust the £25m to anyone connected to buying and selling at L4. Unless Dean Windass still has his registration of course.
Robert Tressell
9 Posted 07/03/2023 at 18:22:16
Brian # 2, yes it does mean that. We are absolutely skint. Failure to buy in January is down to financials and nothing else.
Christine Foster
10 Posted 07/03/2023 at 19:13:10
I don't think we are skint, I think the club has looked at our position and decided not to spend. They have had approx £130m come in this season, which if relegated, is significant. Sell high when you can before you have too.
Of course for the financial director it may not be contrived, just prudent realism, this is Everton after all..
I think the club has gambled on staying up, and that terrifies me because every gamble this lot have taken so far has ended up facing relegation for the second season in a row. You cannot pull rabbits out of a hat when you have sold the hat and eaten the rabbit...
Dennis Stevens
11 Posted 07/03/2023 at 19:22:14
Mmmmn, rabbit!
Bill Gienapp
12 Posted 07/03/2023 at 19:27:56
That's a good way of putting it, Christine
Jerome Shields
13 Posted 07/03/2023 at 20:28:15
Christine #8,

I think you are right. The Board believes they have a divine right to stay in the Premier League. This is what they have believed for years and they have got away with it.

Ian Bennett
14 Posted 07/03/2023 at 20:31:01
Came with a big reputation and price tag. An Italian International and Juventus starlet.

However watching him with the naked eye, he was a million miles from it. Raw is the kind thing to say, lacking the basics of touch, awareness and movement.

I thought he was bloody awful at £30M, and wondered if we had actually watched him or just picked a name from a squad list.

Will Mabon
15 Posted 07/03/2023 at 20:48:25
Tony Everan
16 Posted 07/03/2023 at 20:54:39
An almighty cock up by Brands buying him for £27M, and almighty masterstroke correcting his mistake. Juve spitting feathers at having to pay up.

Tosun, Kean, Niasse, Rondon, etc, all brought in to be the striker, it's damning they're all not good enough to play even as a backup.

You'd expect at least one signing out of the many to be at the average standard level of say Watkins, Ings, Mitrovic, someone who can actually score in the Premier League. Just one! – And we'd be in a much stronger position.

Robert Tressell
17 Posted 07/03/2023 at 21:20:29
Christine, fair enough, it may in part be a case that were unwilling rather than truly unable to spend - but we are certainly very hard up if not entirely skint.

The Paul the Esk analysis seems to broadly corroborate that. The problems with Premier League financial rules etc seem to corroborate that too.

Does anyone really believe that people like Thelwell had the money but just didn't get organised in time?

Whatever the case, failure to buy in January was entirely financial. We couldn't pull together a financial package to get the Danjuma deal over the line. We couldn't compete with Saints for Onuachu and Sulemana and we couldn't compete with Bournemouth for Outtara and Jackson.

Nothing new, it's been like this since January 2021.

Bill Gall
18 Posted 07/03/2023 at 21:28:50
As far as I can see the only thing he has done for the club is get us some money back
Ian Bennett
19 Posted 07/03/2023 at 21:44:14
Hes 3 years into a 5 year deal, so his book value will be £12m tops.

Going for £30m, means a profit of £18m. And that to £45m cleared for Gordon, that's North of £60m towards ffp.

Barry Rathbone
20 Posted 07/03/2023 at 21:47:59
He probably is one of the best of his generation it's just that the generation he represents is so piss poor. Nevertheless, he didn't like being here and has done naff all in Italy so getting our money back is quite a result.
Alan McGuffog
21 Posted 07/03/2023 at 21:53:41
Will the noticeable delay in Mancini going down like he'd been shot. What a bunch of actors play the beautiful game
Sam Hoare
22 Posted 07/03/2023 at 22:06:40
Kean (age 19), bought for £25m and sold for £28m (plus another £5m in loan fees).

Bolasie (age 27) bought for £26m and sold for next to nothing. (Could have chose a number of examples here)

As Robert says buying highly rated youngsters usually means they retain some value even after flopping. And the upside if they deliver on their potential is good (Lukaku, Richarlison). Spending significant transfer fees on 27/28 years olds must be consigned to our history.

Andy Crooks
23 Posted 07/03/2023 at 22:42:29
Shane Corcoran
24 Posted 07/03/2023 at 22:48:17
Alan, the beautiful game but the worst sport on the planet.
Andrew Keatley
25 Posted 07/03/2023 at 23:27:51
Sam (20) - You know how I feel about Moise Kean but having a go at Yannick Bolasie is supremely unfair. He suffered a bad ACL injury within months of joining the club, missed a full year of football, and never quite recaptured the form and fitness that he showed while at Crystal Palace (where he was consistently impressive).

Ask Manchester United fans if they think spending £60 million on 30-year-old Casemiro was a good idea and you’ll see your argument go up in smoke. As always, recruitment should be treated on a case by case basis as there just isn’t a system/formula that guarantees success.

And as for Moise Kean, I wouldn’t be surprised to discover that the decision that brought him to Everton - and now return him to Juventus - wasn’t some strange case of financial musical chairs that meant that there was some mutual back-scratching going on. I hope that the Moise Kean saga does not end up hurting this club any more than having valuable funds tied up on a striker that this club has been missing for the last three years is hurting our squad right now.

Ernie Baywood
26 Posted 08/03/2023 at 00:18:11
Andrew, I think he was just crap. The first time I saw him in person (home v Sheff Utd) I was convinced he wouldn't make it in the league. No effort, no movement, constant moaning, and he just wasn't very good.

But the rule stands. You buy guys in their late 20s if they're particularly good value or if you think they can kick you onto something. We're not in that boat. Buying young gives you a chance of making your money back or better.

Gaute Lie
27 Posted 08/03/2023 at 01:01:25
I am amazed we actually got money in return for him. Seems so worthless ON the pitch.
Mike Gaynes
28 Posted 08/03/2023 at 02:02:45
Andrew #23, agreed... Sam, you should have done better there. Bolasie gave everything every minute on the pitch and his injury was cruel.

But Andrew, Sam is correct that we overpaid. Bolasie wasn't consistently impressive at Palace -- he showed flashes, like the way he destroyed Heitinga, but he also showed the same poor crossing and rushed decisions that he showed for us before the injury.

As for Moise Kean, no conspiracy theory there. He was a good gamble based on his speed and purple patch as a 20-year-old, turned out to be an ass, and getting £31m for him is absolutely brilliant.

Kieran Kinsella
29 Posted 08/03/2023 at 03:50:08

Kind of agree with you all. We paid way over the top for Bolasie but before he got injured he was playing well and linking up with Lukaku particularly. Also, I respect him as a guy who started in the football basement and worked his way up to the prem against all odds. I personally wouldn’t have signed him as he was too inconsistent plus the fee was outrageous. But if all our expensive signings, he (unlike Schneid, Gomes etc) seemed to give 100 percent every game. As I say, the quality wasn’t there but the heart was. These other fuckers were the opposite, playing well within themselves.

As for Kean, based on snippets as a sub I thought he might be a real gem. In truth he was an over hyped mediocre player who benefited from being surrounded by excellent Juve team mates. But given that he was a flop yet we made our money back then that has to count as a win.

Jim Bennings
30 Posted 08/03/2023 at 05:49:55
I always knew buying a playing that had a cross name of David Moyes and Michael Keane would end in disaster.

He was never good enough was he, lazy, self obsessed and basically nowhere near as good as the man he was signed to replace in Romelu Lukaku.

Whatever happened to Moshiri's "Our own Fab Four"?

Sean Roe
31 Posted 08/03/2023 at 07:15:45
Add this money to the Gordon & Arteta money and we are rolling in it, bring on the summer transfer window.
Robert Tressell
32 Posted 08/03/2023 at 07:19:02
The sad thing is, with Kean, Alli and Branthwaite in the squad I would have no doubt about survival under Dyche.

In fact I think Kean, hit and miss though he is, would thrive in the current set up where we're getting the ball in the box early.

Danny O’Neill
33 Posted 08/03/2023 at 07:40:50
Robert, personally I have regrets about Kean. It feels like a "what if" moment.

I think we, the collective we, fans and managers, possibly judged a player too early. A player that was struggling to settle in a foreign country at a young age in a club that was in turmoil.

Time will tell, but I still think he will come good.. It just won't be with Everton, but I'll keep an eye on him.

I don't know if this makes sense and I never compare players identically as they're all different even if similar. But he kind of reminds me of Lukaku. He will frustrate as much as he will please. And it took Lukaku a few loans to establish himself.

I'll be honest, I've not really tracked Kean at Juventus, so don't know how he's got on.or how many goals he's scored.

A shame in my opinion, but he's not Everton anymore, so we move on.

Sam Hoare
34 Posted 08/03/2023 at 07:56:20
Andrew@23, I don’t think picking Bolasie is unfair. It’s undeniably a transfer that worked out badly for the club. That may not have been his fault and I like him a lot as an individual from what I hear but clearly it didn’t go well. His form and end product at Palace was not ‘consistently impressive’ and spending big on a player whose game relies to a large extent on agility and acceleration at 27 is dubious logic. We could have had the younger Zaha for the same price.

As for Casemiro I think you well know that no rule should be absolute and anyone can cherry pick counter-examples. United are possibly the one club who has wasted more money than us over the last decade. Casemiro will be worth a 1/3 that price in 3 years time but they can afford the loss with their revenue and he is a world class player who may or may not get them a CL place. We have to be more careful, and find older players who are inexpensive like Gareth Barry.

As poor as Kean has been the club has not lost money on him. The fact that the same cannot be said for Bolasie, Schneiderlin, Allan, Sigurdsson, Williams, Walcott, Tosun etc is a big part of why we are in this mess.

John Bourne
35 Posted 08/03/2023 at 08:30:32
Duncan Ferguson made his feelings known on him in very short order, let's not kid ourselves, he was awful.
Ajay Gopal
36 Posted 08/03/2023 at 08:51:33
Sam, disagree with your thoughts on this matter and agree with Andrew (23). Fundamentally, you do not buy a player with future sell-on value in mind, you buy a player to improve the team.

And in Moise Kean's case, we spent £28 million (which is very big bucks for a club like ours) and did not get anything on the pitch. Getting £25 million back plus the loan fees etc, we might end up making a profit on the player. But that was not the point of buying him – we wanted a quality striker, who would score goals for us, which sadly did not happen, and is one of the contributing factors to where we find ourselves now.

Ohh... and you could argue that that disastrous summer transfer window was the reason that Marco Silva ultimately failed at Everton.

Incoming duds like Kean, Gbamin, Iwobi, Delph, Sidibé (loan), the permanent transfer of Andre Gomes (who got injured shortly after and was never the same player again) and the exits of Gana and Zouma left us in a far weaker position than the previous season. No manager could have survived that train wreck.

Sam Hoare
37 Posted 08/03/2023 at 09:23:08
Ajay (34), if you are a well run club with limited financial means then you do both.

Of course current performance on the pitch is the primary concern (I don't think I or anyone else has suggested otherwise?) but any good business has to mitigate risk and plan for the future. Good scouting and decision making is key of course and these things are not easy but clearly spending large sums on players over 26 has not worked well for us (in regards to performance on the pitch or future planning).

As for Kean himself, he didn't exactly get a lot of time on the pitch. It seems very likely that he was overrated and that there may still be question marks over his attitude and behaviour but he only got 6 starts for us and has scored something like a goal every 2 matches since (easy at PSG perhaps). He may well fade to obscurity but I wouldn't be surprised if he could prove a useful player to a manger who can settle him somewhere.

Robert Tressell
38 Posted 08/03/2023 at 09:23:56
Ajay, you are right about the primary reason to buy a player. We all agree it is to improve the team.

The point about player profile is more about managing risk and cost. This is something Moyes did well This is obviously something we've done very badly in recent years - leaving us behind Bournemouth and Saints in spending power this January and unable to improve the team despite dire need.

It's also about providing access to elite quality players – like Stones, Lukaku and Deulofeu. We can't afford ready made excellence but we can afford to develop potential. Martinez was good at this.

No objection to buying older players. But like Barry and Tarkowski it helps if they're free (or very cheap). We just don't have the resources to buy established players of top quality. So we end up with the likes of a deteriorating Allan who gives us 2.5 seasons for a £25m outlay before leaving for free. Lots of reasons to stop doing that again.

Shaun Laycock
39 Posted 08/03/2023 at 11:15:47
Interesting article on Benfica's academy:

Inside Benfica's £1bn talent factory

Matthew Williams
40 Posted 08/03/2023 at 16:09:42
Thank fuck we finally got rid of him.

Problem is, like the club now have trousered over £125 Million in recent transfer activity and we're still struggling for goals!

Only at Everton... sigh!

Kevin Molloy
41 Posted 08/03/2023 at 16:13:46
I'd love to have been a fly on the wall in the Juventus boardroom at the dawning realisation:

“You know what? This kid is fucking shit!”

Especially as they had brilliantly engineered him out the door 2 years previously.

Tony Abrahams
42 Posted 08/03/2023 at 16:55:00
Thanks for that Sean@39.

I don’t think Moise Keane, is the worst player I’ve ever seen, but I think he epitomised the Marcel Brands era. I personally don’t think Brands, had enough experience of English football, and deals like this prove it, imo.

We get our money back so it’s not all bad, and this possibly proves that buying younger players, is usually much more beneficial than buying older players, but I also agree with what Ajay@36 says, and I still blame the inexperience of Brands, for killing the tenure of the talented Marco Silva?

Reading about Benfica, and the way they treat young talent in their academy system, is very interesting, and the more I watch lower-league football, the more I am convinced that this is where most young talented footballers, should be learning their trade in this country?

One thing of which I’m certain, is that I believe if you can get good people to run the academy, and all of our other scouting systems, then it would yield much better results for the club?

Paul Tran
43 Posted 08/03/2023 at 17:28:11
Agreed, Tony. Brands didn't know the difference between a talented player and an effective PL player. He was also allergic to buying players who can score goals - Richarlison was clearly a Silva signing.
Jeff Armstrong
44 Posted 08/03/2023 at 17:52:07
I would think that when all is said and done probably about £4 million has changed hands between us and Juve, we never “paid “ £28 million, just structured it out over 4-5 years, 2 years in he’s back there and what we owe is restructured as a sale, all helps both clubs with financial rules no doubt, but I don’t believe a big wedge has come our way tbh.
Bill Gienapp
45 Posted 08/03/2023 at 19:13:29
Obviously Kean hasn't done much since leaving to make us second-guess anything, but I do wonder if he might have settled that first season if he got a decent run of games, scored some goals and boosted his confidence.

It just seems painfully ironic that he was largely stuck on the bench and subsisting off 10- or 15-minute cameos because Calvert-Lewin was such a workhorse back then, and rarely unavailable.

Robert Tressell
46 Posted 08/03/2023 at 19:21:11

I always got the impression that Calvert-Lewin became a much better player than everyone was expecting that season, which was bad news for Kean because it robbed him of the games he obviously needed to settle in.

We then got into a pandemic, revolving door of managers, and you can sympathise with a young guy wondering what the hell he was doing at Everton. Probably a far cry from what he'd been promised on signing.

If he'd have gone to Leipzig or Dortmund or Sassuolo etc instead, he'd probably be better placed now.

Rob Halligan
47 Posted 08/03/2023 at 19:30:02
Jeff #44,

You're right, obviously I don't think anyone can really put a figure on how much has actually changed hands between us and Juventus over the past three years or so, but the most important figure is £25M, which will show as a “Full payment” into our coffers, and therefore helping us regards the P & S Rules!

Adding in the Richarlison figure of £60M (?) and Gordon figure of £45M (?), it all adds up to £130M showing as “Received in full” which could be useful come next summer.

Ernie Baywood
48 Posted 08/03/2023 at 19:37:01
Rob, in the January window we'd already received the Richarlison money, were negotiating to sell Gordon, and had a deal in place for Kean.

For the purposes of FFP, these numbers could already be factored into whether we could buy. And we didn't. Not much will have changed in the Summer.

I don't think we'll see Everton spending big under Moshiri again.

Rob Halligan
49 Posted 08/03/2023 at 19:54:23
Ernie, I'm not sure from “when to when”, clubs accounts are audited? I know it's not like the Financial Year, which runs from 6th April to 5th April the following year.

Does a club's Financial Year run from July to June the following year, in which case, does that mean that so far in this year our books show as receiving £130M? Hope that makes sense, but yes, we may have seen the last of mega signings for a year or two.

Danny O’Neill
50 Posted 08/03/2023 at 20:08:11
Shaun @39, thank you for that link.

What a return of investment. And the strategy (key word) to combine homegrown complemented with an effective scouting network (key words) on a continuous basis is admirable.

They acknowledge that most of the players won't spend most of their career with them, so they make sure they get good £$ and the scouting seemingly always has others lined up to replace. Sounds like a conveyer belt.

I like the comments about culture and identity. It's so important for any organisation let alone a football club.

And the B Team concept, with the second string playing in 2nd division. The regulars know my thoughts on that. I would love to see that introduced into English football. Playing against Championship, League 1 or League 2 teams in from of crowds has to be better than playing at Finch Farm or Southport in what are pretty much meaningless fixtures. No disrespect to Southport.

I know it's unrealistic that English football would adopt that even though, if I was King for a day, I would restructure football to accommodate that and streamline the professional leagues. But I can't.

As I'm typing, I had a thought. Given we play a lot of our matches at Southport, how about adopting them as our de-facto B Team and pushing our young and fringe players their way? It might be the 6th Tier, but it's competitive football and I'm sure we'd bolster their gates as Evertonians would go along to support. It might also help them progress up the pyramid.

That's more similar to the German model as their B teams only compete in the regional leagues unlike in Spain and Portugal. I'd prefer that rather than scattergun loans, which I don't object to. But if we can get a core of development players playing in the same team and have our coaches in partnership, I think that would be a good initiative.

Just a thought. I know. One I've had many times.

Good read. Thanks again.

Robert Tressell
51 Posted 08/03/2023 at 21:01:25

That very productive conveyor belt has been noticed - in January alone 3 high-quality young players joined Premier League clubs direct from South America.

5 years ago Danilo (Forest), Alcarez (Saints) and Perrone (City) might have ended up in Portugal as a stepping stone to bigger things.

These sorts of signings (low cost at source), teamed with a good academy, should be a big part of our strategy going forwards.

Derek Thomas
52 Posted 08/03/2023 at 21:46:47
I wouldn't be surprised if the Richarleson-Gordon-Kean monies are being and will continue to be, drip fed into Liang O'Rourke coffers to keep the Stadium ticking over until the £105M arrives...if it ever does.
Jason Li
53 Posted 08/03/2023 at 21:59:42
On reflection, a lot of the young players (U24) bought in the last few years have been much better buys than the ready-made players.

Probably Siggy is the rare ready-made player that has done things to win matches - for me it means to affect goal difference: stop goals or create goals

Also some freebies have been much better than the 24+ ready-made players with a large fee.

Based on the data, only buy U24s and free or low-fee 24+ players. The club does not have the transfer market intelligence for ready-made players and should never spend big on 24+ players as it results in getting players in with top division level experience but low ability to affect goal difference. £500 million spend figure banded around says the club doesn't know how to do it.

With younger players there's more chance to compete for players at smaller clubs with higher ability to affect goal difference who just need top level division experience.

Paul Birmingham
54 Posted 08/03/2023 at 22:07:53
Taking the positives out of the transfer facts, it looked like poor decision by the club, but how far did Marcel Brands, scouts, watch and assess Moise Kean, we may never know.

Could it have been a BBS, special type buy, based on video footage, and feedback from other coach’s across Europe. ?

But Everton, have on face value done some decent business.. where the money goes, remains to be seen.

But it’s positive, and I got a signed photo from Dyche for my lad, so, a decent week to date.

But the Brentford game is nigh, not Waterloo, but it’s a serious skirmish, that Everton must win.

There’s some good signs, of late since Dyche arrived, and hopefully a repeat of the Arsenal performance.

Same Team, as Forest, I think so, as much as I’d like Mina to be playing, but his match fitness, will be lacking and I think it showed as you’d expect, with Michael Keane, early in the game at Forest, but he did get in tune with the game as it progressed, and done pretty well, and I'm one of his critics.

I still will be as I still sense the composure and thinking when he’s in possession and off the ball, is often a risk to the Everton Team.

But there’s also the lack of communication at times between Goal Keeper, defence, midfield and attack, and for any players coming into any Team, getting tuned in can be easier, or tougher than expected.

Keep the ball low, make the angles, get wide and reverse passes, keep turning the Brentford defence, where possible, and attack the near and back post.

Keep the crosses low, and their Beserkers in defence, will soon loose their rag, and it’s time for the whole Team, to take ownership and score and confident of scoring a goal.

It will be a battle, that Everton can and must win, imho. A draw is not the end of the world, but increases the pressure, on the next game.


Mike Doyle
55 Posted 08/03/2023 at 22:14:47
Derek #52] mention of Richarlison reminds me that with Spurs being eliminated tonight and nailed on to lose the 4th ECL spot to the RS for next season, his plans for champions league football may need to be shelved for a few years.
Hopefully he’s enjoyed watching this seasons games … 95% of it from the Spurs bench…. Must be easier than playing.
Robert Tressell
56 Posted 09/03/2023 at 07:23:53
Jason #53 I totally agree. And it's logical too not just a quirk of statistics. Anyone 24(+) who is of genuine top quality is unlikely to join us or be within our price bracket. So we get average players at a premium.

If you look at the list of our most expensive signings (£20m+) the only ones worth having are those age 22 and younger.

Otherwise yes it's probably Sigurdsson.

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