Doucouré: It’s up to us to keep Everton in the Premier League

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Abdoulaye Doucouré insists that Everton’s players do care about the club’s plight and are determined not to be the ones to end almost seven decades of top flight football at Goodison Park.

The Mali international was back in the starting XI along with Amadou Onana on Thursday evening but neither their return nor the presence up front of Dominic Calvert-Lewin could prevent the Blues from being taken apart in the second half by Newcastle United in what ended up being a 4-1 defeat.

Sean Dyche was critical of his charges’ mentality as they endured a damaging collapse after half-time for a second home game in succession while supporters have questioned the players’ spirit and desire, despite a determined opening half hour against the Magpies that, unfortunately, failed to yield the goal that Everton, on balance, probably deserved.

Doucouré admits that he and his team-mates were a failure on Thursday but he stresses that they are desperate to keep the Toffees in the Premier League, starting with what is an indescribably big clash with fellow strugglers Leicester City on Monday evening.

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“It is on my mind every day. It’s what we do for our life,” he said. “Everton is massive for everyone. We know it is so important for the fans and for the people who work for the club.

“As players, we don’t want to take the team down. It’s up to us to keep the club in the Premier League.

“The Newcastle game was a big disappointment but we have to forget this game quickly. It was failure and on Monday we have to be on it. Leicester are a direct opponent also trying to stay in the league so it’s a big game and we have to win. Every game is important.

“There is belief. Losing a game like that at home can make confidence low but we are fighting for our lives. We have to be honest and not feel sorry for ourselves.”


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John Keating
1 Posted 29/04/2023 at 23:59:59
Don't talk the talk — we've heard it all before!

These players are here today and gone tomorrow, no way do they feel the way we do after abysmal losses.

Graham Rathbone
2 Posted 30/04/2023 at 00:10:02
Are you only now just realising the serious situation we are in? I am sick of this approach by the players after yet another spineless display.

Ooooh... the players need to do something about this terrible situation. Too fuckin' right. You were all saying the same thing last year, and what has changed?

Clock's ticking, boys! But I am beginning to feel it's a bit late now. Just Fight for Us.

Paul Hewitt
3 Posted 30/04/2023 at 00:11:10
Well, start showing you care and tell the players the same.

Knobheads, the lot of you.

Andy Peers
4 Posted 30/04/2023 at 00:22:16
Simple solution. If we go down, then players go down with us, and as punishment for that, you play next season for half your wages.

Who would do this in our current squad? Maybe Coleman. I fucking hate these sound bites.

Paul Kernot
5 Posted 30/04/2023 at 00:25:09
I'm already resigned to what is almost inevitable now. How rich this comment is though, coming from the jerk that got himself banned for 3 games when "as players, we don't want to lose our huge salaries… Oops... take the team down."
Colin Glassar
6 Posted 30/04/2023 at 00:26:03
We should get Phil Neville back as official apologiser. After every loss, he'd always promise an improvement which rarely happened.
Victor Yu
7 Posted 30/04/2023 at 03:58:09
If we go down, he will sign with another team.
Darryl Ritchie
8 Posted 30/04/2023 at 05:10:15
I hope that the squad remembers how to win. March 11 was a long time ago. Winning can be habit-forming; unfortunately, so can not winning.
Alan J Thompson
9 Posted 30/04/2023 at 06:29:13
Colin (#6);

You of all people should know that an official apologist is not on the Board's agenda as it's all put down to the super-duper mowers.

Besides, the manager has said that there is a problem with his "charges' mentality", so who better to describe the situation than one of those with a mentality problem who, by his own admission, has it in mind every day, and therein lies the problem.

So, it's goodnight from me and....

Tony Everan
10 Posted 30/04/2023 at 06:29:38
Unfortunately for him, Doucouré's raffle ticket came out of the tombola machine this week, to go through the motions via the media department. Heard it all before, appreciate the sentiment, and expect nothing less.

I think after a poor display, I would prefer the players to keep their thoughts in-house, and do all the talking on the pitch. Then, when they've put it right, come out and talk to the fans via the media.

Also, it won't just be up to the players, it will be one of the biggest tests that Dyche has faced as a manager, he's got to address the glaring weaknesses in defence.

Sean Dyche and every Evertonian will be waiting for news of Seamus Coleman's fitness, because Godfrey cannot, under any circumstances, continue there. Holgate is better but still a concern, Patterson they have clearly deemed not ready. (Which is hard to come to terms with when witnessing Godfrey being humiliated.)

A massive call as well at central defence, whether to stick with the disappointing Keane or bring in Coady or Mina who have had very little game time. If (a big 'if') Mina is fit and looking sharp in training, he's our best centre-back and I'd start him.

Jim Bennings
11 Posted 30/04/2023 at 07:08:11
Wow, no shit, Sherlock!

In other words, roughly translating…

"We bollocked up our big night on Thursday when we thought the fans would do the job for us again."

Well, Mr Doucouré, it is up to you and the players to help keep us in the Premier League, yes, considering most of you are responsible for the mess we are in for a second consecutive season.

How about less talk and more action?

Neil Lawson
12 Posted 30/04/2023 at 07:50:21
The Toffee Lady is preparing her lines for Tuesday morning. She should be throwing the empty wrappers onto the pitch where all the other rubbish is.
Ian Hollingworth
13 Posted 30/04/2023 at 07:58:54
If you mean your words, why then do you fail, week-in & week-out, even in the most basic of things?

We need you guys to act — not talk.

Phillip Warrington
14 Posted 30/04/2023 at 08:14:24
Shouldn't this be the way to go from the first minute of the first game of the season?

Why do players think they've got to pull their finger out with six games to go???

Bob Parrington
15 Posted 30/04/2023 at 08:21:14
It looks grim but it's not over till the fat lady sings, as the saying goes!

If the British had given up at Dunkirk, there might not be any Premier League now. Like all of you in #1 to #13, I'm disheartened but there is still a chance that we can recover enough ground to stay up!

Come on guys! UTFT!!!

Players – you fight for your effing lives!

Peter Carpenter
16 Posted 30/04/2023 at 08:29:47
Abdoulaye, it's the Chinese League for you and most of your mates if we go down. Nobody else will want you. Tell them and see if that concentrates minds.
Garry Martin
17 Posted 30/04/2023 at 08:36:27
Bit late now 'Sherlock'.

Sounds to me like many of these mercenary-type players are only interested in where their next lucrative contract is going to come from.

Niall McIlhone
19 Posted 30/04/2023 at 08:59:32
Doucoure at least looks energised when he is in the team, the problem is that he is very erratic, and his passing is often wayward when he gets into good positions.

He was at his best when James was in the team, and there was some creativity in forward areas. As it is, he spends most of his time chasing shadows, and his main job is to pressure defenders.

So, it appears the PR people are doing what they always do, which is to seek to reassure fans that the players as “on mission” and that they really, really do “care”.

I just watched the re-run of that game on Thursday night, and it told me that this group of players do not have the mentality to wrestle results is difficult games; they are desperately short of confidence, and this is where Dyche has to earn his corn in the remaining games.

Peter Carpenter
20 Posted 30/04/2023 at 09:11:05
True about Doucouré, Niall. It looks like something will happen when he's near the ball. The 'something' is not always to our advantage though.
Ralph Basnett
21 Posted 30/04/2023 at 09:29:21
Every week, it's the same shit, different players.

Some of them must now be worried if relegated, they could see their salaries halved — how the fuck is a man supposed to put food on the table on £25k a week?

They are really going to suffer.

Shane Corcoran
22 Posted 30/04/2023 at 09:30:34
On one hand, he has to say something when asked the question. However, I can't get past his red card and subsequent three-game suspension.

If he'd offered part of his wages up, I'd have had some respect for him as he got 3 weeks off work for being stupid and was still paid for it.

Ben King
23 Posted 30/04/2023 at 09:31:12
I do wish the players would shut up and do it on the pitch.

So sick and tired of these mentality losers masquerading as footballers.

This current crop have removed all my joy for watching Everton.

Matt Hayhurst
24 Posted 30/04/2023 at 09:40:14
A morale-sapping defeat for Forest yesterday plus another injury – Danilo hopefully out for a few games. We need Bournemouth to beat Leeds today then Leeds have a horrible run in.

If Everton can get at least a point against Leicester… Wolves away is looking winnable now and then we can take it into the final home game against Bournemouth.

All is not lost yet… but may be if we get beaten by Leicester.

Barry Rathbone
25 Posted 30/04/2023 at 09:48:28
He's quite right – it is down to the players, which is a disturbing reality whichever way you slice it.


Mal van Schaick
26 Posted 30/04/2023 at 09:50:03
No shit, Sherlock.

You knew, and we all knew at least 10 games ago, that results had to improve in order to stay in the Premier League.

It is an understatement to say that we are in trouble, because of the decisions of Board Member,, Directors of Football, Managers and players in seasons gone by.

The impact on the existence of our club relies upon staying in the Premier League. The consequences of relegation may be catastrophic. How embarrassing to have a fantastic new stadium crowned with playing in the Championship.

We need three wins to ensure survival out of five games. Leicester, Wolves and Bournemouth, are the only ones we have realistic chances of beating or getting enough points from.

Matt Hayhurst
27 Posted 30/04/2023 at 09:55:03
Also, Man City's game against Everton is sandwiched in between two massive games with Real Madrid. So if ever there is a good time to play City – that might be it.
James Marshall
28 Posted 30/04/2023 at 09:59:15
Maybe try not to get sent off for being an idiot, then we can talk.

Also, try passing to the other blokes in the blue tops and kicking the little round white thing into the big rectangle at the end a bit more. Cheers.

It's really win or bust at Leicester, isn't it. And we all know that's not going to happen. I'm fully resigned to the Championship.

Tony Abrahams
29 Posted 30/04/2023 at 10:00:13
What Doucouré should have said was that, if every single Everton player put as much effort into their game as himself, then we might find a way to get out of this horrible situation.

Not the best player, but at least he works very hard, and “real” hard work definitely covers a multitude of sins against most teams.

We are though a team that lacks leadership, so the chances of any Everton player trying to dig out his teammates to stand up and be counted are very, very remote.

I think it was really poor how badly Dyche reacted to Doucouré being suspended with regards to changing a formation that was grinding us to safety. But it's any three from five now so it's absolutely imperative Everton get a result tomorrow night.

Leicester were one of the best teams to play at Goodison this season but they are down there for a reason and are a team that thrives off space. Don't fucking give them any space tomorrow night, Everton.

Eddie Dunn
30 Posted 30/04/2023 at 10:02:40
I was looking at all of the relegation contenders fixtures and ours are the easiest.

I just watched the highlights of our win at the King Power last season. In the team were Holgate (who scored), Keane and Mina, Seamus and Mykolenko (who scored a worldy).
Doucouré also featured. Two who were also there were Gordon and Richarlison. Pickford performed heroically to preserve the points.

Incidentally there was a terrible collision between Keane and Coleman to present them with their equaliser. I wonder if a back five is the key?

Hopefully Dyche will play the tape to the team and they can remember that we can win away.

Matt Byrne
31 Posted 30/04/2023 at 10:04:47
Most if them couldn't care less as long as they get their ridiculous wages.

Who actually cares? Pickford, Coady, Coleman, Gana? Most players will just shrug their shoulders if we go down and ask their agent to find them a new club.

We are the ones who care and we are the ones who aren't responsible but who are stuck with it.

Jerome Shields
32 Posted 30/04/2023 at 10:12:06
Everton where up against a better team and errors cost them as usual.

It is obvious that Doucouré has been wheeled out but the message and more importantly the appropriate action is needed from the players.

Coleman looks as if he is about to return and hopefully he can stand up physically to the obvious motivation he has and is needed. I see him being the only addition to the team that played Newcastle.

Onana, contrary to the opinion of others, I thought played well. Maddison needs to be targeted in the up-coming game. In addition, playing Garner would help bolster midfield. Calvert-Lewin will be getting his third game and has looked okay.

The relegation fight is not over till the fat lady sings on the last day.

Karl Meighan
33 Posted 30/04/2023 at 10:13:38
Yes, it's up to you the players and it's that which worries us. Not good enough, overpaid and a total letdown.

The players are my biggest fear but this manager is also a worry. Putting Holgate, Godfrey in the full-back positions and selecting Keane before Mina or Coady is not the best but in a relegation battle?

Patterson and Vinagre half-fit couldn't possibly be worse than clowns being picked and paid to play fullback.

Ernie Baywood
34 Posted 30/04/2023 at 10:29:58
Yesterday I supported Brentford. Today I'll be supporting Bournemouth.

I recommend it. It's more enjoyable than watching Everton.

David West
35 Posted 30/04/2023 at 10:33:21
It isn't over. Last season was the same – they had chance after chance to pull themselves out of it but left it to the last possible chance.

It's complacency, thinking they will do it next game, then next game... "Oh we done it last season, we will do it this season." That's on the players — no-one else!

If we had 1 win & 1 draw more the table would look so much better. It's why we should have been trying to grind out more draws staying tight and maybe nicking the odd win.

We've been lucky that elsewhere results are going in our favour. We should be cut adrift, that's how bad we've been this season, but the others are just as bad so we still have a chance.

We can do it! We are due some luck in games, you make your own luck, so let's make some!!!

Jim Bennings
36 Posted 30/04/2023 at 10:35:05
One of the things that always tickles me is when I hear people say that the likes of Onana and Doucouré look energized and bring energy to the side. I've seen 85-year-old women rush to collect a pension or go the bingo with more energy and gusto.

The only energy Onana brings is when he's waving his arms cheerleading the crowd in that annoying way Tommy Gravesen used to do when he was having an absolute nightmare game.

Difference is Gravesen had moments of sheer class and did showcase his ability from time to time.

Joseph Walsh
37 Posted 30/04/2023 at 10:37:29
I wouldn't keep any of them – they are utterly useless with no heart, no fight and no passion.

I thought we had a few leaders in that team at the start of the season with Coady and Tarkowski but they defaulted into the “Everton Way”.

As Peter says at #16, nobody will want any of that lot apart from probably Pickford so we will get pennies for that squad.

I wouldn't want to be stuck with that dross hoping the same players that took us down could get us out of the Championship.

One silver lining of relegation, as much as none of us want it, is it will finally mean the exit of Voldemort! I've waited 30 years for that day!!

Mick Conalty
38 Posted 30/04/2023 at 10:52:45
James #28,

Doucouré doesn't know the difference between a rectangle and a triangle.

Also, reference to 'little white ball' – maybe he should stick to playing table tennis.

Allan Board
39 Posted 30/04/2023 at 11:05:26
Blah blah blah. More white noise from a shit Everton player. It's your job - do it properly for once.
Tony Everan
40 Posted 30/04/2023 at 11:22:47
James #28, you may get your wish, as Leicester will be playing in the blue tops tomorrow !
John Wignall
41 Posted 30/04/2023 at 11:54:05
What a statement that's us snookerd if we've got to rely on this bunch of losers
John Wignall
42 Posted 30/04/2023 at 11:54:05
What a statement that's us snookerd if we've got to rely on this bunch of losers
John Wignall
43 Posted 30/04/2023 at 11:54:08
What a statement that's us snookerd if we've got to rely on this bunch of losers
Peter Carpenter
45 Posted 30/04/2023 at 13:41:49
That's three snookers, John. Actually, let's not be too hard on Doucouré. Someone's got to do these interviews and he's got to say something. I'd prefer it if he'd said, "I really enjoyed slapping Harry Kane and just wish I'd followed it up with a left hook which took a few of his teeth out."

I quite like watching him, he's fun. There was a moment in the first half on Thursday when a bouncing ball broke to him. He appeared to be in complete control of the situation but then, after a flurry of arms and legs (his), Newcastle came away with the ball. "How did he do that?" said the bloke next to me.

Colin Malone
46 Posted 30/04/2023 at 14:04:14
If we give Madison the space he had at Goodison, we will lose. Can't understand why Doucouré plays in front of Onana. Doucouré, with his square football boots cannot pass wind, no guile whatsoever.
Dale Self
47 Posted 30/04/2023 at 14:05:37
So he comes out and says the heaviest thing about Everton's situation. For this he is slammed as a mercenary.

Get it together for these last few games, Y'all. Bagging on the guy who puts in the yards covering the others' asses is not the 12th man's function.

If it goes to shit, you will have plenty of time for that. All fucking together now or go hide behind the couch.

James Head
48 Posted 30/04/2023 at 14:40:27
Another clown in a Royal Blue shirt, this fella plays with his boots on the wrong feet and couldn't pass wind or tackle a Sunday roast, him and Onana think composure is a fashion brand, I'm sure Holgate is losing sleep over our dire situation, he must be shit scared he'll have to pawn his diamond earings and stop buying chewing gum.
Not a chance of whatever combination of players Dyche pretends is a team at Leicester will this shower of mercenary non-footballers have the ability, bottle or desire to get any sort of result, I would not miss a single player from that squad, they give a bag of shite a bad name.
Ian Edwards
49 Posted 30/04/2023 at 15:01:51
Doucoure, Gueye and Onana are a big part of why we are 2nd bottom. Three players who hardly ever score, create, assist and don't protect the Defence. They bring the square root of fuck all to the team. They are the engine room of the team and that is why the Everton car doesn't get anywhere. This is the worst midfield I can remember. Pembridge and Gemmill where better than those three tit turds.

I'd replace them with Garner, Davies and an extra forward. Davies gives his all and does try to get the ball forward.

Play two up top with Gray just behind and launch it. Leicester's defence is shit and will buckle under pressure. If we go with our usual isolated one up front with those three shit crabs then we will die on our knees as we have most away games.

Chris Leyland
50 Posted 30/04/2023 at 15:19:34
I agree with Ian Edwards… to an extent.

He’s right in saying what’s the point of a 3 man midfield if it does neither of protecting the back four or creating or scoring goals? Where I disagree is that Tom Davies is the answer in either a 2 man or 3 man set up. He has also failed to protect the back 4 when he’s played and never scores or creates either.

Frank Crewe
51 Posted 30/04/2023 at 15:20:09
"Abdoulaye Doucouré insists that Everton’s players do care about the club’s plight and are determined not to be the ones to end almost seven decades of top flight football at Goodison Park."
Judging by our recent decacles you could have fooled me.
Frank Crewe
52 Posted 30/04/2023 at 15:20:09
"Abdoulaye Doucouré insists that Everton’s players do care about the club’s plight and are determined not to be the ones to end almost seven decades of top flight football at Goodison Park."
Judging by our recent decacles you could have fooled me.
Paul Kossoff
53 Posted 30/04/2023 at 15:26:50
Well give that man a hand! No shit Sherlock. Now they know, it's the players who have to keep us in the premier league. At last we have the answer. The useless bunch of over paid under performing slacker's have finally woken up with five games to go. "Duh, hey guys, duh, we gots ta start trying a little harder duh, or we goings ta be relegated duh, and me wife will kick me out if me wages are deducted, erm reducted erm deduced erm where is me dictonery?"
Mark Ryan
54 Posted 30/04/2023 at 15:39:09
James Head @ 48, stop sitting on the fence and just say what you mean. You're not wrong tho ! lol !!
Pat Kelly
55 Posted 30/04/2023 at 15:44:58
“It is on my mind every day. It’s what we do for our life,”

They don't have to score for their life. They don't have to win for their life. They're paid anyway, even if they don't play. I doubt they could care less. They'll be kissing someone else's arse, I mean badge, soon. And it shows.

Paul Kossoff
56 Posted 30/04/2023 at 15:53:02
James 48. (Another clown in a Royal Blue shirt, this fella plays with his boots on the wrong feet and couldn't pass wind or tackle a Sunday roast.)
Thanks for making me laugh James, ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐😀
Ray Jacques
57 Posted 30/04/2023 at 15:58:02
So he's a liar as well as a shit footballer.
The lot of them except Coleman and Pickford can fuck off.
Leicester will run riot just as they did at Goodison earlier in the season.
Neil Carter
58 Posted 30/04/2023 at 16:08:57
All the results have gone our way this weekend-surely these losers now have the motivation to go to Leicester and give the fans what we are owed big time.
Time to prove themselves and earn our support and respect.
Brian Wilkinson
59 Posted 30/04/2023 at 16:12:16
How are we even still in with a fight, Forest and Leeds at the moment are saving our arses.

We cannot keep missing out on these gifts, we simply have to grab one of the opportunities we keep getting handed.

Lowest scorers in the leagues, we should be dead and buried by now, but yet it is still in our own hands.

Enough of the rolling different players out after a defeat, do it on the pitch, words mean nothing, action means everything.

Put a shift in for 90 minutes, that's all we ask, not down tools when we go a couple of goals down.

I can accept being beaten, if we did everything but were beaten by a wonder goal, or a better team on the night, if we fight for 90 mins and the effort was there.

Let's hope and pray Coleman is back tomorrow.

Pat Kelly
60 Posted 30/04/2023 at 16:19:42
Leicester can take a major step to safety with a win tomorrow. And they will.

Everton won't turn up. Once they go behind they know they can't score so just give up.

Mark Ryan
61 Posted 30/04/2023 at 16:37:09
So long as, with 12 minutes to go, we bring Maupay on, I'll be happy.
Gerard Carey
62 Posted 30/04/2023 at 16:44:04
Yea yea, heard it all before.

What was the King's song?

"A little less conversation, a little more action!!!!"

For once go out and do it on the pitch.

Ray Jacques
63 Posted 30/04/2023 at 16:50:53
Pat, at 60.
Nailed it.
Colin Glassar
64 Posted 30/04/2023 at 16:56:23
Coleman is back tomorrow so, as long as Iwobi doesn't start, I think we've got a chance of getting something.
Michael Barrett
65 Posted 30/04/2023 at 17:31:35
James Head @48,

Absolutely nailed the shower of shite that is us in a nutshell.

Sean Roe
66 Posted 30/04/2023 at 17:32:20
33 games into the season and the penny has finally dropped.

That's it, Abdoulaye, kick round thing filled with air between white rectangle with net at the back!

Matthew Williams
67 Posted 30/04/2023 at 17:42:59
If we had proper leadership from the top of the club, then they should challenge all our lads to win every fucking game remaining (even Man City)... It's all about graft, heart, bottle, belief, and having the will to win.

If we lose, then we're waist-deep in the shite, folks!

Brian Williams
68 Posted 30/04/2023 at 18:02:45
Simple task. Win tomorrow and it's in our hands!
Derek Taylor
69 Posted 30/04/2023 at 18:45:46
I think if we go into receivership as a consequence of relegation, we start life in the Championship with a 10-point penalty.

Only Moyes could work around that – and Kenwright if he stays on – so let's hope Hammers sack him soonest!

Ian Riley
70 Posted 30/04/2023 at 19:13:49
Derek#69 your right but if we were in league 2 some of our fans wouldn't have Moyes. West ham fans want Moyes out? Why? They need to be careful what they wish for! West ham are mid table and gaining 6/7 gaining European football is an achievement. Expectations v reality required!

Championship football is a long battle. Our next choice of manager is the difference between Championship and league one. If Moyes was to come back which is a big ask of him dropping down a division, fans must back him. Relegation with a point deduction will need unity more than ever.

Barry Hesketh
71 Posted 30/04/2023 at 19:46:50
Ian @70
Unity will only come about when the current board is booted into touch, and hopefully we have a new owner too. Manchester United fans similar to the other lot's fans do not accept failure or being run as a tin-pot organisation, we have accepted a lowering of expectations year-on-year for nearly a quarter-of-a-century.

Old Trafford, today witnessed a large group of fans, protesting against their current owners, despite being League Cup winners, despite being in the FA Cup final and probably qualifying for the Champions League via their place in the league, what do Everton fans do, send a few letters, have a few fans march a few hundred yards, an hour prior to kick-off, and hope that their team scores a goal and wins the odd match or two, whilst hoping to stave off relegation.

I understand that circumstances are very different between Manchester United and Everton, but as a fan-base we have all too easily accepted poor management and poor results for too many years. Whatever happens in the remainder of this season, we can't allow things to continue as they have done.

Martin Mason
72 Posted 30/04/2023 at 20:02:52
Barry, no Everton fan "accepts" poor management and poor results. That is absolute fantasy like the fictitious happy clappers. The way you stop accepting it, and there is only one way, is that you stop buying the product either on TV or by going to the ground. That is you stop being a supporter. Most who say they don't accept it do nothing extra other than complain on sites like this and even those very few who are activists and march with banners actually achieve nothing and still buy the product. Everton has a waiting list for tickets. United fans have been demonstrating for years against the Glaziers and have achieved absolutely nothing when the club has been bled dry and for billions. 70000 of them still go every week.
Dale Rose
73 Posted 30/04/2023 at 20:03:17
After that fucking abysmal performance the other night, the whole lot bar Coleman and Pickford can fuck right off. We have bought and hired utter shite. The chickens have come home to roost. This is the fault of the board, no ifs no buts.

If my failing memory serves me didn't Bielsa, want to come in and work with the youngsters. Did nobody on the board pick up on that, of course not because its a strategy, and Everton don't do strategy. With this bunch of misfits in the team and on the board we were fucked before the first game of the season.

Rant over, and apologies to anyone in the fan base who I may offend.

Geoff Hind
74 Posted 30/04/2023 at 20:57:34
Draw at Leicester. Leeds, Forrest and Southampton relegated. Everton saved on the last day, 30 points the lowest total to keep up in the history of the PL, saved by goal difference.
Brian Williams
75 Posted 30/04/2023 at 21:09:12
Oh dear, you know it's bad when some wish for Moyes back.
It's like remembering a girlfriend from years ago as wonderful when she flirted with your mate while seeing you, before ditching you for him, and wasn't all that when she was with you anyway.
Wishing Moyes back is the epitomy of acceptance of mediocrity.

Brendan McLaughlin
76 Posted 30/04/2023 at 21:15:28
Indeed Brian#75

Mediocrity is certainly a distant memory since Moyes left.

Gary Brown
77 Posted 30/04/2023 at 21:52:14
As much as I want almost every one from Thursday dropped…..nobody can deny it’s that team that’s got us in the shite. Only Coleman, Gray and Coady from wider squad been involved in it too.

Dyche got to stick with it. These players can choose to be remembered for one of two things; the worst Everton team in 3/4 of a century or heroes who came through when it countered most.

Could be the biggest game in our history tomorrow. Forrest and Leeds have horrendous run in, but one of them will get points. Leicester have a couple of winnable games.

We must not lose. I think 5 points from 5 games would see us safe. Not sure we can get it, but it’s not impossible either. Time to swim or sink boys and girls.

Paul Jones
78 Posted 30/04/2023 at 22:06:30
Doucouré: bears shit in the woods, but we're shit all over the place.
Paul Hewitt
79 Posted 30/04/2023 at 22:23:02
Time to sink or swim?. This squad has dirty big lead boots on I'm afraid.
Ian Riley
80 Posted 30/04/2023 at 22:23:48
Had to laugh at that brian#75. Like I said why would Moyes come back? Financially dead, potentially relegation and point deduction? The glory years under Roberto, Ronald, Marco, Sam, Rafa, Frank, and Sean?

As strange as this might sound for many like me those years under Moyes are my glory years supporting this club. Mediocrity I would take now and the next 3 years along as premiership football is in our back yard. The premiership is the golden ticket and leaving you are soon forgotten. Let's see if the sponsors stay on. Season ticket waiting list in the championship?

Failure of this board was not sticking with Sam allardyce until the stadium was built. A short sighted view that being in the premiership with a new stadium equals profit and further investment. In all the investment, not even close to smelling glory let alone seeing it.

Our next manager?? Surely championship experience and used to a low budget is essential if relegated.

John Charles
81 Posted 30/04/2023 at 22:29:53
Not sure Moyes is anyone’s answer but by god he is better than the shite we have had since him - maybe ancellotti excepted. Moyes over Dyche everyday of the week.
How great does mediocrity sound right now?!
Gary Brown
82 Posted 30/04/2023 at 22:51:12
Paul, you’re probably right, but what’s the point of giving in till it’s actually over?
Colin Malone
83 Posted 30/04/2023 at 23:40:57
We have Doucouré behind DCL. Leicester have Madison behind, maybe Vardy.
FFS get a grip Dyche.
Ben King
84 Posted 30/04/2023 at 23:41:36
Ian #80

Totally agree. We wouldn’t be in this mess with Big Sam in charge. Obviously he wasn’t ever the long term answer but he would have bought tough (mentally) strong men and that would have been something to be proud of.

Instead we have this mess of clowns: the results have gone our way today but I bet our jokers still balls it up. Obviously I hope I eat my words and they make us proud but I just can’t see it.

Dale Self
85 Posted 30/04/2023 at 23:49:06
Behind the couch seems to be the choice of many. See you in the live forum.
Matt Traynor
86 Posted 30/04/2023 at 23:56:26
Ben #84, yeah, Tosun and Walcott. Left it all on the pitch they did...
Soren Moyer
87 Posted 01/05/2023 at 00:05:22
We all know well what comes after statements like this! Don't we?

I wish they just shut it!

Please Dyche, for the love of god, just win 1 more lousy game FFS! Pair Mina and Coady tomorrow, Hook Iwobi and use that Portuguese left back instead of Mykolenko and no more Godfrey or freakin Holgate! Go with a plain, simple 442 .

No more sitting back and hoping for a point.

Soren Moyer
88 Posted 01/05/2023 at 00:23:52
Can't believe, few TWebers are calling fot Moyes!!!! When was the last time he got a team promoted from the championship!?
If the unthinkable happens, we should hire someone like Vincent Company to get rid of the deadwood and recruit reasonably, as he did last season with Burnley.
Mick O'Malley
89 Posted 01/05/2023 at 11:26:07
I’d sooner have Martinez and Silva any day than Allardyce, there’s a reason he is no longer a manager, his style of football and tactics have been left behind, just like we’re seeing under Dyche, Martinez got us to two semi finals, we nearly made the CL and we had a decent run in Europe, Silva got us Richarlison, we finished 8th in his only full season, we played some good stuff under him at times, played the RS of the park at Anfield only to lose to a Pickford cock-up in the last minute, battered UTD 4-0 at home among other good performance that season, he lost Gana and Zouma who weren’t replaced, we had a bad run and we sacked him, we’d jump at the chance to finish 8th now
Bill Piscass
90 Posted 01/05/2023 at 14:30:05
I would have Scott Parker. I wanted Bielsa, but sadly he wouldn't come. in reality if we do go then its unlikely you will get anyone high profile. Unless the fans are going to pay for him.

Another point that was made is season tickets still 97 percent sales. This is good for the club, but just means as always massive gaps in the stands where season ticket holders try and sell the tickets but not many want to go.

Silver lining to this is People whom don't live local anymore will likely be able to get tickets. I will put a request in for Rotherham away in November, where we will all be able to huddle together like penguins to keep warm.

Brian Wilkinson
92 Posted 02/05/2023 at 15:03:05
Keep Doucoure as the press, whatever he said we were like a different team last night.
Barry Hesketh
93 Posted 02/05/2023 at 15:10:36
Bill @90
Where are these massive gaps in the stands? or are you forecasting that's what will occur should the worst happen? Without the possibility of the new stadium, I fear, many would have contemplated failing to renew, and the less than transparent 'waiting list' figure of 20k might not have been quite so high.

Given that the stadium is on the horizon, I think we'll keep a healthy match day attendance figure, but it won't last forever, it'll then be down to the owner and the board to help form a squad of players to start winning football matches, whichever division we are in.

Alan J Thompson
94 Posted 10/05/2023 at 14:29:48
The BBC are reporting that Doucoure has stated that he might not want to stay at Everton at season's end despite an option to extend for a year. Must have slipped his mind when this presser was on.

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