Davies opts to leave Everton as a free agent

22/06/2023 180comments  |  Jump to last

Tom Davies has turned down the offer of a new contract at Everton in favour of trying to kickstart his career elsewhere.

The 24-year-old's current terms with his boyhood club expire at the end of this month and the Blues had offered him fresh terms to persuade him to stay but, having sought assurances from Sean Dyche and Kevin Thelwell that he would get regular first-team football, he has decided to move on and try a fresh start.

Davies hardly featured in the run-in as Everton battled relegation this past season and he has made just six Premier League starts over the past two seasons.

Renowned for his local charity work off the pitch in recent years, Tom originally joined the club aged 11 and progressed through the youth academy before breaking into the first team in 2016.

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Davies announced his arrival in the senior set-up with a brilliant first goal for the Toffees in January 2017 in a 4-0 romp over Manchester City at Goodison Park but he wasn't ever able to fulfil the rich promise that his early appearances hinted at.

He was an England Under-21 regular and captained his country at that level but eventually became a squad player at club level rather than an established starter at Everton.

“We offered Tom a new contract, but he feels he has reached the stage in his career where he needs regular first-team football and, as a result, he wants to look at alternative options away from Everton,” Thelwell said on the club's official website.

“As a lifelong Evertonian and proud Scouser, Tom has always given everything for the Club. We respect his decision and thank him for his service and commitment. Everyone at Everton wishes him the very best for the future.”


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Mike Hayes
1 Posted 22/06/2023 at 15:17:44
I've heard Tom Davies refused a new contract… 🤷💙
Stephen Davies
2 Posted 22/06/2023 at 15:54:35
Tom Davies to Monza, apparently. Good choice for him.

Not that far from the fashion centre of Milan…

Steve Brown
3 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:24:06
Good luck to Tom - a proper blue. I always liked him.

Took a high level of stick that should have been reserved for some of the pathetic senior pros in squads since he broke through under Koeman.

Probably lacked the physicality needed for the Premier League, so could prosper if he does go to Italy.

Michael Lynch
4 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:25:28
Probably the right decision for Tom. At his age, he should be playing – not sitting on the bench.

Although he hasn't kicked on in the way we all hoped he would, he leaves yet another gap in the squad to be filled. Let's hope the idiots who run our club will sort themselves out sooner rather than later.

Kevin Molloy
5 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:31:23
He's not been treated very well really by club or fans. The right decision for him I think, but a sad day for the club.
Martin Mason
6 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:31:24
I'm so sorry to hear this. Good luck wherever you end up.
Colin Glassar
7 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:31:46
Good for him, and us. The lad is never going to make at this level but he could have a decent career in a lower league or abroad.

If Iwobi goes next, this could be the beginning of a decent(ish) window.

Kenwright Out!!

Paul O'Neill
8 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:35:24
A true Blue and by all accounts an exceptional and hard working ambassador for the club's community efforts too.

Seems like a lovely lad. Best of luck, Tom. 💙

Alex Gray
9 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:38:11
Best decision for both parties. Hope he finds his way and can rediscover that spark he had when breaking through. Some more money off the wage bill for us.

Now all we need to do is look to replace some of these players with better ones… shouldn't be too hard, right?

Dale Self
10 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:38:17
Good for you Tom. Get some action and show us we underestimated you.
Robert Leigh
11 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:41:02
Fair play, Tom. I hope you go on to do well and who knows; come back to the Premier League at a later stage in your career.
Alan J Thompson
12 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:41:41
Some take pride in how many Everton season ticket holders live locally compared to our neighbours but is this the last of the locals on our playing staff?

I'm sorry to see him go and there'll be a few on here whose contributions will now halve until they find a new whipping boy.

Daniel A Johnson
13 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:42:58
Be interesting to see him after he gets 20-30 regular games a season somewhere else. There is a useful player there but he needs to be playing – not watching his career pass him by.
Mike Gaynes
14 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:46:53
Good decision by Tom, I believe. Wonderful young man who gave me the thrill of a lifetime... but not a top player. If Monza is the destination, he will find the slower pace of Serie A to suit him better than the Premier League.

Wishing him nothing but the best of success.

Bill Gall
15 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:47:52
Good Luck Tom, best to go were you are wanted where the supporters will give you a chance.
Mal van Schaick
16 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:50:10
Good luck Tom. I hope you find a club where you get plenty of games and it works out for you. Alas, it was not to be at Everton.
Jonathan Oppenheimer
17 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:52:10
Best of luck to Tom. Yes, the sentimentality of a homegrown player makes it harder, but so too does the fact he hasn't been given a decent enough run in recent years.

Hard to know if he could've cut it with a consistent manager and better players around him, or what his best position is, but regardless he seems a helluva teammate and community member and a model pro.

It's also particularly sad for me because that Man City game was the one that made me a Blue forever. I'll never forget his arrival on the biggest stage.

Hopefully he finds the right level and can contribute wherever he ends up next.

Jay Harris
18 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:53:50
Good luck Tom,
You showed so much promise but through a succession of poor managers/coaches you never developed your potential. I hope you find it at Monza.
Paul Hewitt
19 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:54:29
May be a nice lad. But simply not good enough.
Duncan McDine
20 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:57:00
Sensible decision to leave Everton – it's a horrible feeling to say or type those words, but it's true.

I really hope he can get his footballing career back on track wherever he ends up. Best of luck, Tom.

John Graham
21 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:03:20
Good prospect when he first came on the scene but seems to have had a lot of his adventurous play coached out of him (possibly by the rapid change of managers).

Let's hope a move will get him back on track to becoming a better-than-average midfielder.

Good luck, Tom.

Tom Bowers
22 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:08:13
Yep, disappointed he didn't make it after a bright start but that may have been down to whoever was manager.

The others in contention cost big money so they got the nod ahead of him but most of those were letdowns themselves.

Good luck to the lad.

Jim Lloyd
23 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:08:15
Good Luck, Tom.

If you were a good footballer against Man City in your first game, then you've got it in you to be so again. Have a great career lad.

Jack Convery
24 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:09:57
I am glad to see he has taken the brave decision and in my opinion the great decision for his football career.

The goal, against Man City, will be remembered for a long time to come as will your work in the community. Good luck.

Joe McMahon
25 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:17:05
Glad he's opted to play over staying at Everton. Been here for many years but not really suited to the Premier League. I hope he gets games wherever he goes.
Christy Ring
26 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:17:55
Wish him the best of luck, never got a chance to establish himself under Koeman after he burst on the scene against Man City. Seems like a lovely chap, who does a lot of charity work.

Didn't deserve all the flak on here, why is it the locals get a tougher time, remember Barkley? He's still only 24, I would love to see him having a good career.

Barry Rathbone
27 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:37:49
There's some competition at this club but he's right up there as one of the most awkward-looking footballers I've ever seen. His goal against City is a master class in mis-control and falling over.

How he earned a living for so long at the top flight is a mystery.

John Chambers
28 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:41:28
Good luck to the lad. Never been able to truly establish himself in the first team but one player who could never be faulted for not giving his all
Peter Hodgson
29 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:41:53
I never understood all the flack aimed at him from a substantial number of our fans.

So his decision to call it a day here to find a club that will give him a fair crack of the whip and let him play football is a brave one. Better than him just hanging around for a wage is right. You never know he could just find something that we missed.

I truly hope it works out for him. Good luck lad.

Lee Courtliff
30 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:48:22
It was time for us to part ways. I used to defend him on here but my patience wore thin after that disaster against Bournemouth.

But, I wish him nothing but good luck as he's obviously a nice guy and he does have some ability. The Italian game might suit him perfectly. All the best, lad.

Ben King
31 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:48:48
Sadly, probably the best decision for all.

What's worrying is that, for a variety of reasons, we can neither attract good players (players chose Spurs, Bournemouth, Southampton and even Forest above us in January) nor can we keep them (Gordon, Davies, Thierry Small, Issac Price).

Moshiri's reign has been as bad as if he'd done this deliberately as an industrial terrorist.

Roger Helm
32 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:49:13
He always tried his best, which for me is important. Bad news for the club as now we have to sign someone to replace him, and he would have been a useful squad member.

However, I understand and respect him wanting more regular game time, so I hope his future career works out well for him.

Lee Courtliff
33 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:53:19
The amount of departures and, so far, lack of incoming players could force Dyche to play the youth players?

I personally wouldn't mind seeing the likes of Branthwaite, Cannon and Warrington given plenty of minutes.

Paul Birmingham
34 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:54:17
Thanks, Tom, you have always done your best.

Hopefully you will find your level, and find luck with injures and consistent form. All the Best.

Jer Kiernan
35 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:56:29
I wish the kid all the best but I struggle to think of a footballer with less tactical awareness than this guy. Decision making is appalling and he literally plays in the centre of the pitch with his head down,

This deal is for the best for all involved and I very much doubt it will come back to haunt us.

Danny Baily
36 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:58:30
Lost some good squad depth there.
James Newcombe
37 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:00:26
People went way over the top in their criticism of Davies. He hasn't hit the heights we might have hoped for; but all the different managers won't have helped.

We are going to lose a solid squad option and it will cost us to replace him – which is the last thing we need.

Respect to him for going and getting game time. Can't help but feel that loveable lot would have gotten a fair bit of cash if he played for them! Good luck, Tom.

Brent Stephens
38 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:02:46
Best of luck, Tom. A blue through and through. Always gave his best on the pitch. Seemed to do a lot of community-related work off it.

A great ambassador for the club. Never a bad word against anybody that I can recall. Well-paid, as a Premier League player, but unspoilt and a gentleman.

At WBA, you went out of your way to go and find a pen when mine ran out after I'd asked you for an autograph. If only there were more like you.

Kunal Desai
39 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:05:58
Shame it's not worked out.

Will we bring enough cover for the departing players is the question? Like always, we leave ourselves short. No doubt it will become even shorter come 1 September.

Paul Kossoff
40 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:12:28
How embarrassing. True Blue turns down a contract.

Why wasn't he offered a better deal? Well, because he's not good enough, even apparently not good enough for a squad player.

Hope it doesn't end up biting us in the backside.

Pat Kelly
41 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:12:30
There's more departures than at a Ryanair gate. Which is what many of us wanted.

If he sought assurances that he'd get regular first-team football, it's no wonder he's going. You have to earn it.

Paul Kossoff
42 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:20:23
Hope he takes uncle Bill with him. Bet Tom turns out to be class at his new club.
Habib Erkan Jr
43 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:23:32
Top lad whose development suffered because of idiot coaches. Wish him the best
John McFarlane Snr
44 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:24:35
Hi Barry, [27]

Any player who can feature in top class football, as in the case of Tom Davies, can certainly play football. Maybe not so well as some of his team-mates but a whole lot better than the people who rip him to pieces.

Down the years, I have witnessed many players who I didn't consider good enough, but I've never booed an Everton player. I have always believed that even the poorest players, and I have seen one two in that category, are infinitely better than me.

I may have expressed my disappointment, but I've done what supporters are supposed to do, I've supported them.

Phil Bickerstaff
45 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:24:59
19 Paul Hewitt,

Like most of the squad…
Holgate, Keane, Iwobi…

Tony Everan
46 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:28:00
He's 25 next week and needs to be playing football, week-in & week-out. He could have chosen the easy option and been a bench warmer with the occasional start.

Credit to him for getting away for some proper game time. I would have like to have seen how he fared with a good Championship club.

I thought he gave the best he could for us, so good luck to him wherever he lands.

Denis Richardson
47 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:29:11
I respect him for this. He wasn't going to play regularly so go elsewhere and get decent minutes on the pitch rather than getting splinters on the bench.

Always put a shift in, no matter his limitations; I hope he gets a decent gig elsewhere. I imagine he'll be decent in a mid-Championship team. Albeit Forest may sign another 50 players…

Jack Convery
48 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:29:25
Apparently Moshiri is claiming in the accounts that we have spent £30M plus VAT on WD40 for the players' exit gate, which had seized up from lack of use, and to get Kenwright free from his chair.

Another £40M expenditure was for taxis for managers and their staff. What an accountant.

Clive Rogers
49 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:33:50
He should treat himself to a new wardrobe.
Chris Hockenhull
50 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:39:16
John (44),

Words of wisdom (as usual).

Charles Brewer
51 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:41:49
Good luck, Tom. It's a great pity that a player with the loyalty and determined approach he had was not lucky enough to be in a side that could let him shine, and he sadly wasn't good enough to be the lead player in such a formation.

I found the criticism of him very unfair, and am convinced that it was much of the reason he never did develop. This was summed up to me by the pass he made to Yerry Mina against Man Utd instead of shooting himself. A player who had become more fearful of the ridicule he would get if he didn't score is sadly a liability to himself and the team.

He seems like a very decent lad, and I hope he regains his confidence and spark and goes on to be very successful in Italy and gets the crowd to love him.

Ian Jones
52 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:48:01
Barry @ 27.

Thanks for this comment. Made me laugh.

'His goal against City is a master class in mis-control and falling over.'

Assume you meant the one from the 4-nil win over Man City.
Gave me an opportunity to see it again just see his mis-control and falling over.

We all have different views of the game.

Stones blocked him off/pushed him over. Funnily enough, Tom gets back up. Most players would stay down these days. Perhaps slight mis-control but hey ho, it went in.

Good luck, he'll do okay in a forward-thinking side.

Mark Ryan
53 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:48:50
Disappointed to see him go because I don't see us signing anyone amidst the chaos that is engulfing the club who will replace his position in the squad. Good luck, Tom.
Larry O'Hara
54 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:59:31
He always tried, never hid.

Good luck, Tom.

Si Pulford
55 Posted 22/06/2023 at 20:00:15
Wether we think he's good enough or not, this leaves us a problem. We need bodies desperately.

The squad was paper thin last season and we've lost about six players in a couple of weeks. We have to get the MSP deal sorted and get players in ASAP or we're in bigger trouble than the last two seasons.

You'd assume they had targets ready to go as soon as the investment drops but you never know with this lot.

We wanted to clear the decks. We're getting just that. Careful what you wish for maybe?

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
56 Posted 22/06/2023 at 20:01:28
From the squad at the start of the season and just for those who have played in the Premier League, that makes:
Begovic, Vinagre, Mina, Coady, Nkounkou, Davies, Townsend, Price, Gordon, Rondon with Gomes, Gbamin and Maupay very much likely to be off before the new season.

14 bodies - I think Mr Thelwell deserves his bonus.

That leaves 16 plus Dele Alli who you might describe as seasoned pros plus Branthwaite and Simms who have played more than 90 minutes. Hope we don't get too many injuries.

Tony Abrahams
57 Posted 22/06/2023 at 20:02:33
A wise decision, but yet another young player leaves Everton for nothing because of the dysfunction that has been created by constantly chopping and changing the manager.

I wish Tom Davies well and will follow his career with interest, and it wouldn't surprise me if he really improves, but I think a lot will depend on where he goes.

Soren Moyer
58 Posted 22/06/2023 at 20:12:36
Sadly, he is not a Premier League player, the same way Lampard isn't fit to be a coach for this league.
Mark Rankin
59 Posted 22/06/2023 at 20:30:52
More poor management - it was clear this was going to be the end result over 2 years ago.

If we'd have acted when we should, Everton would have benefited from a fee and Tom could have benefited from playing more regularly during a key part of his development.

James Head
60 Posted 22/06/2023 at 20:48:29
Wow, some sentimental drivel spilling out here! No wonder the clowns running the circus that is Everton Football Club have been getting away with it for so long.

He's a Blue, local lad, always tries his best… so fucking what?

"Tom", as he's affectionately known by some on here, would not be wanted by any other Premier League Club and I doubt he could compete in the Championship. I couldn't believe he was offered a new contract, which is a sure sign of the desperate times to come.

He's become a wealthy young man on the back of looking much less than an average footballer, can't control, pass, carry the ball, shoot, cross or head a football, looks nice in flared corduroys though.

Diamond-earing wearing, gum-chewing, baseball hat on back to front. Holgate out of the door next please.

We're Everton aren't we?

Colin Malone
61 Posted 22/06/2023 at 20:54:30
Good Luck, Tom. Keep looking forward. Not sideways or back.
Dave Abrahams
62 Posted 22/06/2023 at 20:55:35
I wonder what sort of contract Everton offered Tom, possibly one with reduced wages?

Whatever they were, Tom has decided to move on, an honest lad who never hid and did his best. I hope you do well wherever you go, Tom. Best of luck with the rest of your career

Iakovos Iasonidis
63 Posted 22/06/2023 at 21:06:13
Good luck to him. He isn't Premier League level and we should have sold him 2-3 years ago and made a bit of a profit.

We so desperately wanted another Rooney to emerge from the academy but is yet to happen... Rodwell, Barkley, Davies… nowhere near!

His biggest flaw was his weak mentality. Only problem is we have clearly no transfer plan and the club is in a state of limbo. I have zero optimism!

Sam Hoare
64 Posted 22/06/2023 at 21:07:05
Fair play to him. He'd rather go elsewhere (possibly on lower money) to play than stay here and be mostly bench fodder.

I think he'll do okay for a team where he gets to start regularly.

I think a few people on here don't appreciate how hard it is to give your best when you are in and out of the team, often playing in different positions and for different managers. Not saying he's gonna be a world-beater but he'll do okay.

Shame to lose a professional player who's on low wages. Would much rather we could find a permanent home for the likes of Gbamin, Alli and/or Gomes.

Mike Gaynes
65 Posted 22/06/2023 at 21:10:17
Dave #63, I doubt it.

Per multiple sources, Tom was on only £25,000/week, at the very lowest end of the club's pay scale. Trying to reduce that would be insulting, and it wouldn't save much.

In the absence of any other information, I'll take Thelwell's word that he's leaving to play, not leaving for pay. He wasn't going to start ahead of any of our current midfielder roster (even Gomes and Gbamin), and he risked having his career dead-end.

Rob Rothwell
66 Posted 22/06/2023 at 21:12:05
10 out the door since January (Gordon, Rondon, Begovic, Vinagre, Mina, Coady, Nkounkou, Davies, Townsend, Price) with at least 4 more to follow from Gomes, Gbamin, Ali, Maupay, Pickford & Onana.

3 good summer signings please Mr Dyche to offset. Give him some funds asap Farhad, or what we thought couldn't get worse, soon will.

Paul Hewitt
67 Posted 22/06/2023 at 21:14:01
James @61. Spot on mate. We simply ain't as ruthless as the top clubs.
Barry Rathbone
68 Posted 22/06/2023 at 21:22:28
John Mc Snr 44,

Not sure what relevance your point is to Davies being an awkward-looking footballer.

If it's any solace you might be glad to know I've never booed any of our personnel, footballers or otherwise.

Ray Jacques
69 Posted 22/06/2023 at 21:33:16
Not sorry to see any of the departing players leave, but bloody hell – we need to sign seven or eight replacements to make up the numbers. Worrying times, again.
John Chambers
70 Posted 22/06/2023 at 21:44:44
Ray, #70, if you look at the list from Rob and we can keep Onana and Pickford the rest probably didn't get the equivalent of 10 games playing time under Dyche, so we still have the core of the squad that eventually kept us up.

I'd be much happier trying to focus on bringing in 3 or 4 quality players (left back, creative midfielder and striker) and try and give the likes of Mills, Cannon, Welch etc an opportunity than bringing in 7 or 8 squad players.

Andrew Keatley
71 Posted 22/06/2023 at 21:48:14
One of the biggest disappointments of the last decade - and there have been many to choose from.

I remember when it was reported on the news that he was taken from the England Under 16s (?) to make up the numbers in a practice game for the full England squad. That suggested he was a big talent.

Then the goal against Man City; sublime. Again - big noises that he was going to kick-on. Over 60 international appearances for the various England age-groups - which might only be second to James Milner.

But in the best part of 200 appearances and seven years in an Everton shirt he has consistently failed to prove that he belongs at this level. Yes, the club has been in turmoil, and the manager turnover has been high, etc etc… but Tom Davies hasn't got the talent, physicality, engine, athleticism or hunger to operate at the top level, and that has been apparent for the last 3 years at least.

And as for the notion that he always gave his best, and never hid, or shirked responsibility – I don't actually agree with that either. It always felt to me like he was comfortable being mediocre and never really learned from his mistakes.

But his local lad status bought him a lot of time and patience from a lot of fans, eager to believe he'd recapture that one-off burst of skill and imagination that he showed against Man City. Alas…. no.

Bobby Mallon
72 Posted 22/06/2023 at 22:00:44
He's scored 6 goals since 2015-16 season. 138 games with 5 assists. He also has 29 yellow cards in that time. We should have sold him 3 seasons ago.
Ernie Baywood
73 Posted 22/06/2023 at 22:03:57
Great news to see when opening the site. Not for Everton, as I still believe he was providing important contributions off the bench and was worth a contract given our situation, but for him.

Over the last few years it's been very apparent he wasn't going to be a regular starter, nor someone that would ever be appreciated. He needs to go and play regularly and I'm sure that with his style he'll go and be a fan favourite somewhere at the right level. Maybe even a Champions League future club captain.

Absolute best of luck to him.

Craig Walker
74 Posted 22/06/2023 at 22:12:08
I genuinely wish him all the best. Seemed a great lad and a super ambassador off the field.

Sadly, he never fulfilled his early promise. It's good that he'd rather seek game-time elsewhere than warm the Everton bench.

He isn't good enough though for where we aspire to be but we need better players coming in and I don't know where we will get the funds from.

Alex Bennett
75 Posted 22/06/2023 at 22:23:18
Had a brief look through the comments. He's a squad player who fitted into various positions across midfield when needed.

He was hardly the talisman or cult hero type of player we love, but he would put in a shift when called upon; however those performances are rated is up to the person rating him, but at least he wasn't one to down tools.

I think we may struggle to replace him with a player of his level or above right now unless one is coming through the ranks. I wish him well and will remember that goal against Man City fondly like many of us.

Who said that goal was a lesson in mis control, didn't he take 2 players out of the game with some kind of flick? Wish I had that kind of mis control, maybe I've remembered it wrong?

David Hayes
76 Posted 22/06/2023 at 22:33:34
Strolling around the pitch, affecting nothing, occasionally fouling someone in a really dangerous area.

Giving the ball away due to a permanent lack of concentration, resulting in goals against.

Weigh up the positive contribution with goals or assists per games played to lazy mistakes and it's 100 to 1 against. Should never have worn the shirt.

Peter Carpenter
77 Posted 22/06/2023 at 22:36:22
Harsh, 78.
Barry Shearer
78 Posted 22/06/2023 at 22:46:50
I agree with Peter, 77. Harsh. I always liked Tom. I thought he could develop into a top player. It didn't work out for him here. Maybe we are the wrong club. I wish him well and believe he will do well somewhere else. In truth, I am glad he didn't accept the deal. Now Dyche can find a midfielder he will use, even if it is for free or a loan.
Ray Griffin
79 Posted 22/06/2023 at 22:48:37
Let's be honest, he never was and never will be a Premier League player.

I can understand the pride of a local lad making the grade to the first team but would he have got the same assessment from fans if he was from say, France, Scotland, Ireland etc?

He was given far too many seasons to fulfil the 'potential' so many thought he had but in reality he is a average player, poor in so many areas – pace, awareness, passing, goal scoring to mention a few.

He has struggled to get a game in some of the worst sides we've ever put out in, goodbye, good luck – join a lower Championship side and you'll get a regular game.

John McFarlane Snr
80 Posted 22/06/2023 at 22:55:49
Hi Barry [68] I have revisited both your post @ 27 and mine @ 44, and yours is the only one that mentions Tom Davies as an an awkward player. My response was to point out that any player who can operate at the highest level can play football, certainly better than those who rip him to pieces. If the last few words upset you it would lead me to add, "If the cap fits wear it"
Shane Corcoran
81 Posted 22/06/2023 at 22:55:51
I’d tend to agree with David Hayes’s assessment. I never got the feeling this past few years that Tom was giving it his all, on top of his obvious limitations.

I do think he deserved to wear the shirt though.

Ernie Baywood
82 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:01:13
Referring back to my post at 73... there's no way I wrote Champions League future club captain! I wrote 'club captain'.

Is someone on the site having some fun at my expense?

Mike Gaynes
83 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:04:13
David #76, strongly disagree that he was "strolling around the pitch"... in fact I wished he would sometimes, because his racing around in overdrive and committing foolish fouls and turnovers hurt us so often.

But lack of effort? Davies? Never. On heart alone he was worthy of the Blue.

Barry Rathbone
84 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:06:06
John Mc Snr @81,

Again, I really have no idea what your point is re Davies looking awkward it's as though you think that is the same as saying he can't play football. It isn't.

Similarly why would your last sentence upset anyone?


Paul Tran
86 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:11:49
Good luck to him.

Like many young Everton players, he was over-hyped too early by so many, then copped all the bile when he didn't meet the expectations.

In the last seven years, we have bought a host of £20M midfielders, most of whom couldn't score, were inconsistent, and unexciting.

My lasting memory of Tom will be him coming on a sub for one of those expensive flops, then getting more stick than all the flops put together. A host of managers have ignored him, spent wildly on average players, then called on Tom to fill the gaps when 'their' players didn't cut it...

There's nothing wrong with being an 'ordinary' Premier League player, especially when you always give everything for the shirt. We've needed more 'ordinary' players with a good attitude in my view.

I hope Tom gets a club that gives him a role and gives him time to grow into it. He'll do a good job for them.

Michael Kenrick
87 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:14:44
Sorry Ernie, I thought it looked a bit odd:

"Maybe even a cl future club captain."

But then everyone was saying such lovely things about Tom and how wonderful he is, I just thought Champions League must have been what you meant!

Pete Clarke
88 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:16:05
Best wishes to Tom. He was indeed a battler who put his body on the line whenever he played.

He's definitely no worse than the likes of Gueye or Doucouré but his biggest issue was pace. He had none at all and looked like he was running in treacle even as a sub.

Another local lad who leaves us to be entertained by foreign mercenaries.

Oh yeh, Kenwright Out.
Ian Riley
89 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:29:20
All the best Tom. Tried his best but with high expectations just didn't happen. New surroundings may bring that talent out.

Ernie Baywood
90 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:33:35
Haha Michael... Must just be a fast or fat finger moment from me!
Don Alexander
91 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:36:01
Okay, Tom Davies has been here amid a tumult of managers and gross negligence/recklessness in the running of our club but the fact remains he's of inconsequential physicality/pace/stamina/passing/tackling or goal-scoring ability, for years now.

I think the status of the club he next signs for will speak volumes about the perennial uselessness of our scouts and FF, erm, coaches.

And on a reported "mere" 25K per week it's a doddle to gain acclaim for being "a good bloke".

I'm part of a homeless charity with a few folk on next to nowt still donating a pound or two every week for those less well-off than themselves.

THEY are "special" people!

Stu Gore
92 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:37:26
Another week, another Simon Goodley article in the gruniad. He’s very determined. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jun/22/carlo-ancelotti-held-talks-over-everton-bonus-fund-with-alisher-usmanov
Ray Griffin
93 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:39:22
Have to laugh at some of the damming with faint praise comments posted;

"gave his all" "full of heart" "always tried his best"

Isn't that a given as the bare minimum from any player that walks out on a pitch?

He always looked clueless at this level, way, way out of his depth.

John McFarlane Snr
94 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:43:53
Hi again Barry, your post [27] reads, "There's some competition at this club but he's right up there as one of the most awkward looking footballers I've ever seen. His goal against City is a master class in mis-control and falling.
How he earned a living for so long at the top flight is a mystery".

I wouldn't class that as a compliment, and don't bother to reply to this post, because I don't think we have anything in common.

Tony Everan
95 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:51:55
Ray, a fair comment. He was like one of those thin spare wheels in the boot of a car. It does a temporary job if you really need it, but when the proper tyre is repaired, it’s straight back into the boot.
Pete Clarke
96 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:55:02
DCL will be gutted when Tom leaves because he’ll have all the clubs fashion focus on himself. Then again, he may be happy about that as he takes centre stage.

Tom’s career, like a lot of other players at Everton has not been helped by the total dysfunction at the top and probably at Finch Farm too. There’s always room for improvement but very few of our players have improved at all be it tackling, shooting and an obvious one is challenging for headers where it’s clear from what I’ve seen that most of our midfield players don’t even try.
It’s not just Tom Davies who needs to leave this club !
Jerome Shields
97 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:59:05
Good Luck to Tom. I do think that he is a Premier League footballer and did perform at Everton..He will be missed.
Lester Yip
98 Posted 23/06/2023 at 00:09:05
I think Tom did a lot of basics well, both passing and defending, and will flourish in a league demands less quickness/pace.

Good luck Tom.

Bob Parrington
99 Posted 23/06/2023 at 01:48:37
Best wishes Tom. Good decision for both you and the club.
Now BK should follow your example.
Bill Hawker
100 Posted 23/06/2023 at 01:51:48
Can't blame him one bit. He wants to play and he hasn't been playing here. Best wishes to him and on his future.
Christine Foster
101 Posted 23/06/2023 at 03:12:16
I have to pick up on Christy's comment, the one thing I really dislike about some of our supporters (it may well be true of ALL supporters in fairness) is the immediate character assassination of the player who leaves. Doesn't matter who they are, but even more so if its a local player. What the hell is the matter with some of you? Smart arse comments, never good enough, ridicule? You have to dig really deep to see a load of positive posts about any players leaving the club irrespective of reason. I tell you what though, you better get used to not having any great players, we will end up with "just past it" or take a chance players, because this lot have truly fucked up this club. (Sorry John)

We are Everton for Christ's sake. Where is your class? We are better than this. Tom Davies has been there since he was 11.. loves the club, does a huge amount for it off the field, played under god knows how many managers who ALL wanted him to stay. He is not a 50m midfielder, he may not even be good enough to hold a place down, but he is a squad player who now will ply his trade elsewhere. His leaving is a condemnation of the club, not the player. Good luck to the lad, Go and enjoy your football.

Kieran Kinsella
102 Posted 23/06/2023 at 03:45:05
Good for him. I’ve been very critical of him on these pages but my frustration was borne of seeing his early promise fail to deliver. Nice guy by all accounts. He could’ve taken the easy option of a new deal but didn’t. Like JJK, another who promised (more?) but didn’t quite deliver for whatever reason, he’s bold enough to walk away from an easy paycheck and challenge himself elsewhere. I wish him well. I hope he succeeds. I hope he makes critics like me eat out words. Good luck. Respect to him.
Bob Parrington
103 Posted 23/06/2023 at 03:55:19
Christine. Fair point. Sam Hoare @64 made a fitting explanation.

In one day, out the next, then subbed, then not subbed… di dar, di dar, di dar. Isn't easy on any player. Occasionally, one can rise to it but this is few and far between.

As I said in my previous post... Best wishes to the lad.

Malcolm Kitchen
104 Posted 23/06/2023 at 04:32:24
I am so pleased Davies has finally gone, I know I will be jumped on by that! BUT I'm not the only one! A few facts for the blue tinted spec brigade, Tom's last goal was 20 months ago in the Watford 2-5 disaster! He played just 9 games in the last 2 seasons, so injury prone nearly as bad as his mate! Replace him so hard (32) you kidding me, (33) Lee? Got it right Lewis Warrington is miles better than Davies and there's others, Onyango & McKenzie Hunt who is a super talent att mid bit like Barkley in stature! Davies was part of the problem, so good luck in Monza near Milan for the fashion shows!
Derek Thomas
105 Posted 23/06/2023 at 05:34:24
Probably good for him, maybe good for us – time will tell.
Davies staying or going is waaaay down the list of our problems
Kieran Kinsella
106 Posted 23/06/2023 at 05:43:35

You've got to be careful mate. Probably 75 percent of people on here, while not claiming he was good, will portray themselves as the moral minority defending him against “the masses” who pick on him cause he's a local. Even though the majority of posters clearly support him solely because he is a local.

As I said I'm glad he left and I'm impressed he took the tough option versus signing a new contract to be a bench warner. But, the fact I'm impressed that he has some self-awareness and ambition doesn't mean I think we've lost out because he left. I don't.

But, as with most things Everton, you get people adopting extremist views rather than pragmatic. John McFarlane for example, a good and knowledgeable man, has the “I criticize but don't abuse” mantra... But how do you separate the two? It's all about how the subject perceives it.

You can very politely list Tom Davies shortcomings and to him that may feel like abuse versus someone calls him a cuss word, he may or may not take offense.

All I'll say is that, while many laud him for being a local and a nice bloke, how many are saying “Oh my God how could we let him leave?” None.

So the pious lot act like it's sad he left and his minority of vocal critics are to blame but none of them argue he was a valuable player we should have fought to keep.

I honestly think Jonjoe Kenny, Kieran Dowell and Matthew Pennington all offered more over the longer term. But all had enough common sense to realize they didn't quite have it so left and tried their luck elsewhere.

Tom wisely and bravely did the same given we offered him easy money. But let's not pretend we are dealing with a Mason Mount type figure here. Stop all the fake piety and accept he did his best.

He's true blue but he's leaving because he's realistic enough to accept that he's not quite good enough. Doesn't make him a bad person. Doesn't mean he deserves ridicule. Just simply facts are facts. He's man enough to accept that and so should we without pretending he's some martyr.

Danny O’Neill
107 Posted 23/06/2023 at 06:08:52
We had high hopes for him, just as we did for Ross Barkley and Jack Rodwell, who should have been moulded into a centre-back in my opinion.

Is the problem that we try to build them up to be the next Rooney, who was a once-in-a-generation freak of footballing nature? I'm still not sure why we target homegrown players as whipping boys. We have a habit of doing so.

With Tom Davies, I've praised, always on merit. I've criticised, hopefully constructively despite the frustration at times. I do that with most players, regardless of where they come from.

I would like to have kept Tom as a squad player, but I suppose it speaks volumes that under several managers, he can't command a first name on the team sheet. Not that many can in the modern game. Credit to him for deciding to leave the club he supports to go and play football more regularly. And a club he loves and has footballing family roots in (Alan Whittle). I don't think I could have done it.

Like a lot of Everton players, especially the younger ones, he has grown up amidst a club in turmoil with managers changing every 5 minutes and a board not knowing what they are doing. That has to have affected his development.

Best wishes to him and I hope he has a successful footballing career. The continent would be good for him and his style.

Steve Shave
108 Posted 23/06/2023 at 06:19:27
I almost couldn't read this thread as I knew the news would flush out the more toxic posters.

I am pleased for Tom that he has made this decision, he needs regular football. I'm surprised though that its Monza and not Rangers with Beale having already spoken of his admiration for Tom, that would have been a good move I think.

Okay, so it didn't work out how we (and probably Tom himself) would have wanted and dreamt about. He has plenty of time to turn it around. Sadly he has become another off our conveyor belt (albeit a slow one) where the crushing weight of expectation from the crowd quickly turned to disappointment and frustration.

We will never know how much the groans and online vitriol affected his chance to kick on and how much it was down to him.

For those actively celebrating him going, I'd ask you to think about who exactly is going to fill our bench next season? We clearly don't have a pot to piss. The only positive I can see is it is a chance for Warrington who I really like as a player.

Personally, I hope he has a blinder wherever he goes, seems like a decent lad. Good luck, Tom.

Bill Fairfield
109 Posted 23/06/2023 at 06:43:06
Good luck Tom. It’s been a tough going playing for such a dysfunctional club like ours.
Phillip Warrington
110 Posted 23/06/2023 at 06:49:43
It's okay… were just going to replace him with Dele Alli.
Eddie Dunn
111 Posted 23/06/2023 at 06:50:29
Tom played over a hundred and fifty games for us. That makes him a Premier League quality player.

He might not have yet reached the heights that we all hoped but I wish him good luck and good health wherever he goes.
Never saw him shirking, he always put in a shift and he has never complained.

A decent pro and one of us.

Rick Tarleton
112 Posted 23/06/2023 at 07:07:21
Good luck to the young man. His start at Everton was marvellous, I remember that goal against Man City, but gradually unsympathetic managers and at times crowd hostility eroded his confidence. I wish him success wherever he ends up.
Martin Farrington
113 Posted 23/06/2023 at 07:17:21
I am not a fan of Toms but I hope he does catch a break wherever that is. Good luck.
David Bromwell
114 Posted 23/06/2023 at 07:24:39
I would like to add my name to all those supporters who have thanked Tom and wished him all the best. As many have said you could never fault his attitude and he was a home grown player of rich promise. Sadly along the way his career has stalled, probably as a result of the constant changes in managers and coaches. I hope a new start will give his career a boost.
Ernie Baywood
115 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:10:45
Malcolm, he made 19 appearances in the league last year. The stat you refer to is the number of starts he made over 2 years - that clearly wasn't all down to a lack of availability.

I actually thought he generally did well when he came on and helped us see out some games. You might disagree, but to be honest I struggle to take opinions on Tom's performances seriously on here given I've seen him blamed without even playing. And I'm not making that up.

I'm not sure why you think good riddance. We'll now need to go out and find a midfielder who can replace him. Not hard you might say, but we'll still be spending money that could go elsewhere. And I highly doubt it will be on a star midfielder to go into the first team, it will be on a 4th/5th choice type.

The players you mention that can come through have had nowhere near the impact Davies did at their age. It's expecting a lot for them to feature in a struggling (to put it mildly) side.

I'm glad he's gone, but only for his sake. I think he'll be a big hit somewhere and at 24 he's still got a chance at having a very good career, regardless of level.

Christy Ring
116 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:11:21
It's great to hear all the armchair critics, especially Barry, who must have been a great footballer in his day.

Tom always put in a shift and gave 100%, the biggest problem with all the managerial roundabouts, he was played in every position in midfield, and never got a chance to establish himself in his proper position where he played against Man City.

There's a hell of a lot of players who put on the Everton shirt, who weren't Premier League players, but Tom isn't in that category.

Danny O’Neill
117 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:11:31
Steve @108

I'm not a regular follower of the U23s or U21s (forget what they are called these days), but I called before last season that I would like Warrington to be involved and closer to the first team squad.

I'm not suggesting start him, but maybe this is his chance to step up?

I do like him. Great footballing brain, comfortable on the ball and an excellent range of passing. Can he do it on the big stage? There's only one way to find out.

Pete Neilson
118 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:21:19
Best of luck to him. Not sure any player could have developed and improved at the most dysfunctional club in the league. A symptom of how we’ve been run.
Rob Dolby
119 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:22:26
Spot on Eddie 111.

My only gripe is that we didn't get a transfer fee for him. A
25 year old who has over 150 appearances in the prem must be worth 12m.

Sean Roe
120 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:31:10
I guess Tom leaving was always going to be the outcome one way or another. If he had reached the heights that people had hoped for he would've been picked off by a better club years ago. As it happens he doesn't want to sit and warm the bench, and at 24 he shouldn't settle for that anyway.

Good luck Tom, enjoy every minute of what is a short career.

Mike Gaynes
121 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:34:33
Christy #116, everybody here is an armchair critic by definition, including you -- author of some pretty acrid commentary yourself about players you don't care for. You're welcome to your opinion that he never got a chance in his "proper position" but I and others are entitled to ours that in 179 games and 10,000+ minutes he got massive opportunity. And how well we played the game is not a criterion for credibility of our opinions.

Christine #101, I don't consider Tom's departure a "condemnation" for either club or player. The club (presumably the manager) determined that he would not be a regular starter, and that's what he wants to be, so both made the appropriate decision. No condemnation comes into the picture.

Neil Lawson
122 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:38:46
Several comments regretting the need now, to acquire a new midfielder to replace Tom. Surely an opportunity for a talented youngster to step up.
As with many of you, I have always liked Tom but frustrated and disappointed that he didn't fulfil his promise. Good luck to you wherever you go.
Christopher Timmins
123 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:41:30
Best of luck to Tom, he made the right decision and not the easy one.
Barry Rathbone
124 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:18:25
John Mc Snr 94

We may not have anything in common but telling me not to respond is a very bad idea. I will respond to falsehoods if I want.

Hardly my fault you misinterpreted "awkward" for "not being able to play" and then dug a hole half way to Australia about it.

Stop being so infantile.

Robert Tressell
125 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:28:06
Monza, Spezia, Sassuolo and Salernitana are a bit like Brighton, Brentford and others with clever recruitment models. Tom might do well in Serie A. Slower pace, more tacticand a brilliant life opportinity
Justin Doone
126 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:30:36
Thanks and I wish him all the best.

A good player that just didn't seem to improve to the extent needed for the next level and challenge for a regular starting position.

The manager merry go round and general poor on and off field performances helps no one, especially a young player forced to learn and adapt on the job.

Financially for Everton it will cost us a fair bit of money to replace him but as always hopeful an even better youth player can establish themselves.

Gbamin and Gomes return on 3 to 4 times Tom's salary. To say I'd rather have Tom is a huge understatement!

Christine Foster
127 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:46:43
Mike, the condemnation I refer to relates to the fact that the club has been dreadfully run especially since 2016, with a manager a year.

It's a wonder any developing player as a 16/17-year-old, has not had the benefit of a stable team structure, manager, playing position, skill development or tactical awareness, his value as a result, in his own eyes has certainly not helped his confidence. That's all down to how the club has been run during his time with the first team.

Would he or could he had been better for us if he was in a stable club? We don't know but it certainly hasn't helped his cause.

Years of round pegs in square holes come to mind, players, not just Tom Davies, being asked or instructed to play in a certain way, in a certain position by yet another manager.

Ajay Gopal
128 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:47:28
As a long-time (armchair) supporter of Tom Davies, I am heartened that the majority of posters here have recognised that his development was badly affected by the dysfunction at the club, and most have wished him well.

With a stable manager like we had David Moyes, he could have turned into a little gem like Leon Osman. I will follow his career with interest and let's see if my belief that he is a top level footballer gets vindicated!

Brent Stephens
129 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:48:32
Danny #117, dreamers both, thee and me. Warrington to Tranmere to Everton first team squad. He'll go far.
Alan J Thompson
130 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:07:58
There seems to be an expectation that Everton will find a replacement, squad or otherwise, and look forward to the postings with the realization that we are not going to be signing many, but more likely nobody, until after the Independent Commission's findings when it will be all digits crossed, and possibly orifices squeezed, that we don't have too may injuries.

When does this window close and what hope of a midfield of Gomes, Gbamin, Iwobi and Doucoure for one last season as mostly they don't want to be here too much longer than the pay cheque.

Neil Lawson
131 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:15:12
Just read that Kenwright staying on as Chairman on interim basis at Moshiris request.
Let the invective and incredulity begin !
Danny O’Neill
132 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:21:20
I know Brent.

Christine, totally the point.

I only had this conversation with my brother last night, and it's a totally different scale given the size and quality of squad Manchester City have.

But look how Guardiola managed Foden.

Despite the usual clamour from supporters and the media to play him the full 90 every week, he had him around the first team squad and introduced him gradually. Even now, not guaranteed a start or full match, but that goes back to their locker of luxury.

But to your point Christine, stability over several years and good management has seen Foden realise his potential.

Mark Boullé
133 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:23:59
Neil Lawson #131

Surely not, where did you read that?

John Williams
134 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:28:40
Its not just Everton who have problems bringing through players, it must be happening all over.
Look back to 2017 and the England U20s winning the World Cup, the first major honour since 1966.
Everton had 5 players in the squad,
Jonjoe Kenny, DCL, Ademola Lookman, Kieran Dowell, Callum Connolly.
Who remembers the rest of the squad and where are they now ?
Where are the players who played for the other co untries, have any of them made top grade players ?
Neil Lawson
135 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:29:12
Club statement. A badly thought out one at that !
Neil Lawson
136 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:32:18
Google " Newsnow Everton"
Danny O’Neill
137 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:44:46
From Tom Davies:

Evertonians - the time has come for me to move on to a new chapter in my career. It is one I have thought long and hard about and it feels like now is the right moment for me as a player.

I always had belief that I would play for our club but I had no Idea how beautiful and fulfilling it would be! I would like to thank the club, the city and the fans for making my dreams become such a beautiful reality for me!

Thank you to everyone who has been a part of my journey, especially the coaches, staff and players in the academy who helped me, challenged me, and developed me into the player and human I am today - for this I can't thank you all enough.

I have had some great highs as a player and as a part of this club; scoring my first goal, becoming our youngest captain and playing in European competition. I am extremely proud of these accomplishments and with these experiences I am ready and determined to go on to achieve even more.

I'd also like to thank Everton in the Community. It has been an honour to have been so involved with the work that you do.

EitC has given me some amazing and humbling experiences during my years which l'll take with me. I plan to continue my work with you.

Finally, I'd like to share that the recent times with the club have been difficult for me. I know they have been difficult for you too. I hope that they can be sorted out as soon as possible so that we can get back to the stability we deserve.

I loved being apart of everything this club stands for. I am proud to have given all I had in every moment I could. Thank you all again for everything. You have made a young lads dream come true! l'Il see you again at Goodison because I'll always be an Evertonian!

Tom Davies


Mark Boullé
138 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:47:31
Oh my God it's true, Kenwrong stays on as Chairman. This is so utterly depressing. The new board appointments aren't what I expected either, there's nobody from MSP there is there?

He will never leave except in a wooden box will he?

Danny O’Neill
139 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:49:13
If legitimate, very profound and heartfelt words from Tom Davies.
Jack Convery
140 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:50:34
Mirror reporting and quoting Moshiri per Kenwright staying on ( for now ? ).

48 hours becomes 48 weeks / months / years / decades !!

That's it ENOUGH IS ENOUGH with this basket case of a so called Premier League Football Club. If Phoenix Nights had a football XI, Potter and Rayvon would have run it better. Sod off Kenwright and Moshiri. Just how much can you two idiots ( toned down believe me ), put the fans through. Just go and go now PLEASE !!!

If I was Dyche, when Glastonbury ends, I would ask to clean up the mess left behind as it will be a lot easier than what he faces on his return to Grinch Farm.

Kevin Prytherch
141 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:52:09
John 134 - https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/revisiting-englands-u20-world-cup-winners/
Martin Reppion
142 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:58:06
Another youngster that didn't quite make it.
He stayed around longer than some of his contemporaries and has been a good player to have in the squad.
But at 25 he has taken the bold step of moving on to find a club where he can be a regular player and maybe even a star player.
As with all those who come through the Everton system, I will watch out for him and support whoever he plays for when I catch them on TV. (unless they are playing against us in which case I hope they get over excited, score an own goal and get sent off).
Good luck lad. Have a great career and see you back here in 20 years when you've become the latest hot manager.
Mick O'Malley
143 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:17:38
Tony Everan@ 95 excellent description of Davies, you could count the amount of stand out games he had one one hand, I’ve never been a fan and struggled to see what he contributed, I won’t miss him that’s for sure, he’s been here long enough to nail down a first team spot but he just sort of went through the motions for me, an average player with bang average stats
Len Hawkins
144 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:22:13
I don't have any feelings either way as to whether he should go or stay but what everyone seems to forget that several managers and coaches have seen him at
Finch Farm training seen him playing in matches or for the under 21's and he has not been a hit with them so if they offered him a deal it was never going to blast him up to stellar wages probably knowing that he wasn't going to sign.
I have seen a lot better players than Thomas Davies Esq leave the club It was like a death in the family when Bally went but he was a one off.
So I wish him well and another Tom Davies will come along with high hopes of a career at Everton who can't kick on when he gets a chance. Unfortunately a lot of us are old enough to remember the heady days of the Mersey Millionaires where top players would crawl over broken glass to play for Everton, sadly now even the worst ones don't want to come to a club run by half wits imbeciles and charlatans.
Ray Mia
145 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:28:01
Squad player at best - needed to up his game to break through in a poor midfield over last 5YRS. Flattered us with that debut goal, never had stable management, not his fault, but never took any game by the scruff of the neck. Didn't score enough... a significant downgrade on Leon (remember Leon and Peanuts and Baines... and Cahill...) let alone Sheedy, Bracewell, Stevens and Reid. Good luck to him... don't care he is a scouser... care whether he is any good and he never cut it and is one of the reasons we have been rimming the bowl of relegation for a while now...
Nathan Ford
146 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:28:36
I'm pleased he's leaving; he maybe a good lad and do lots in the community but the only thing that matters to me is how he performs on the pitch.

He lacks the basics for a good central midfielder. No pace, lack of strength and technical ability, can't shoot and can't pick out a pass. I wish him all the best wherever he goes but, when I see a starting XI for Everton without Davies, I'm a happier man.

Frank Wolfe
147 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:33:53
The worry is that younger players, around whom we should be building a team, are choosing to leave.

Tom Davies chose to leave - the club didn't get rid of him.

Isaac Price, who looked really good on the Australian trip, has chosen to leave.

Jarrad Braithwaite, who in my opinion will be an excellent player, is making noises that he would be happy to stay at PSV.

Not a good sign that they have faith in the club.

Derek Wadeson
148 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:37:46
Just read Tom Davies's message on Instagram. A much bigger person than some on here.

Thanks Tom, I have always rated you as a player and a fellow blue.

Ray Smith
150 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:56:22
Am I right in believing no players will come in before the 1st July in order to balance the books, and that players leaving will be off of the payroll and their transfer fee, will go to massage the figures before the end of June?

I just hope Kenwright is not involved in transfers in and out, but I'm sure he'll poke his nose in anyway!!!!

Christy Ring
152 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:21:54
Total class from Tom Davies with his statement.

Ray Jacques
153 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:38:24
Tom should have stayed.
He will be a certain starter next season as we only have eight players left on the books.
Paul Hughes
154 Posted 23/06/2023 at 14:05:20
No doubt that Tom was a decent egg who clearly put in a lot of effort for EitC, and he is a boyhood Evertonian too.
But he has never developed on his early promise. His debut, I believe, was in 2016, when Unsworth was in charge after Martinez was sacked. I remember him in the team (along with Jonjoe Kenney and Kieren Dowell) looking comfortable on the ball and unhurried as we stuffed Norwich 3-0. He was 17 then. He's no better now he's 25, sadly.
I think a move is good for both parties.
Mike Owen
155 Posted 23/06/2023 at 15:05:52
Congratulations, Tom, on getting out of the asylum. At times, you might have felt like Patrick McGoohan in The Prisoner (he was number 6) who sometimes felt like leaving but I don't think ever quite managed it.

Don't sign any NDA because in future years, once you have had time to reflect on everything, you'll be able to write a cracking book about playing under umpteen managers in seven years, and how to deal with criticism that ranges and rages from constructive to merciless.

Am sad to see you go. I liked the way you always tried to go forwards, in contrast to some of your many teammates over the years whose default direction seemed to be sidewards.

Two overlooked issues: First, your departure pretty much completes the de-scousefication of the first-team squad. We now have nobody who grew up in the city as a Blue and is able to explain to the other players the nuances of the club, the city and why Evertonians are as we are.

Second, another reason for hoping you'd stay is the likely absence for several weeks in January and February of three of your midfield teammates due to the Africa Cup of Nations... Alex Iwobi, Abdoulaye Doucouri and Idrissa Gueye.

But having made your decision, Tom, don't look back. Go and enjoy your football elsewhere. Good luck.

Jonathan Agger
156 Posted 23/06/2023 at 15:57:46
@Iakovos Iasonidis 63 Wayne Rooney was a once in a lifetime talent sold, contrary to his own word, by Kenwright to try to balance the books as Everton lurched dangerously into so much debt our credit rating was becoming untenable. Bill just go...
Will Mabon
157 Posted 23/06/2023 at 16:09:45

I can't say I ever saw proof either way, but my instinct is to wonder how true that debt excuse is.

So convenient that the once-in-a-lifetime player happened to be there at exactly the right time. Opportunism is the more likely answer.

Mark Taylor
158 Posted 23/06/2023 at 16:14:30
Respect to Davies for going and not just taking the easy money we often provide.

He was never going to make EPL level and its surprising it took us 8 whole years to realise that, but dropping a level to a different league might give him a fulfilling and worthwhile playing (rather than bench warming) career.

John McFarlane Snr
159 Posted 23/06/2023 at 16:39:07
Hi Kieran [106] you ask how one distinguishes between criticism and verbal abuse, in my opinion to say, "Tom Davies is not trying very hard today" is criticism.

What I would class as verbal abuse is, "Tom Davies is a lazy 'so and so', and should go away and never play for Everton" again. [but the latter of the two would be filled with expletives]

It's bad enough to listen to it at the match, but to type it knowing that it will be seen all over the globe, is for me irresponsible.

I am by no means a prude, it's just that I believe that there's a time and place for that kind of language. I suppose the fact that I grew up in an era that saw children or men stand up on tram or bus, to allow women or elderly men to sit down, has played it's part.

Howard Don
160 Posted 23/06/2023 at 19:52:00
Good luck, Tom, a better player than many on social media would have it. Victim of endless managerial changes in his developing years and never getting settled in a position.

Still only young, Tom; show the knockers you can play.

Michael Kenrick
161 Posted 23/06/2023 at 20:09:12
JMF Snr @163,

For some strange reason, that set me thinking of a funny limerick, probably from your era, old fella:

A colonial type from Darjeeling
Got on the fast train to Ealing
A sign on the door
Said, 'Don't spit on the floor'
So he stood up and spat on the ceiling

Funny how the mind gets triggered, init?

Dave Downey
162 Posted 23/06/2023 at 21:12:19
In a better team Davies may have performed the more-than-capable deputy role once undertaken so adeptly by Messrs Harper and Richardson almost 40 years ago. Sadly he never fulfilled even that potential so he was never going to start regularly. We've all seen footballers with limited pace and skill who manage to thrive at the highest level so I am thinking maybe he just lacked that mental steel and the determination to win (cf the legend that is Peter Reid) that can sometimes compensate for relatively average ability. Or maybe I'm just talking shite again.
Ed Prytherch
163 Posted 23/06/2023 at 21:33:32
I don't blame him for moving to Italy. I lived there for a while and I loved it. It is fun to learn another language and experience a different culture provided that it is not Glasgow or Newcastle.
Tony Mace
164 Posted 23/06/2023 at 21:53:52
Fantastic news
Good luck
Dupont Koo
165 Posted 23/06/2023 at 23:45:25
Koeman, Big Sam, Marco Silva, Don Carlo & Frank collectively ruined his career. Having 5 gaffers telling him who he should be as a footballer ended up turning him into none of that. So sad.
Phil Lewis
166 Posted 24/06/2023 at 05:38:07
Dupont #165,

You have perfectly summed up Tom Davies's Everton career. I couldn't agree more.

When he first burst onto the scene as a kid, with a goal in that memorable thrashing of Man City, he was like a breath of fresh air. A bundle of unbridled youthful talent.

I was at that game and remember actually thinking we may have another Alan Ball on our hands! Such was his exuberance and confidence on the ball. Spraying perfectly placed passes to team mates, sharp in the tackle, full of zest with an eye for goal. He was fearless. Our future looked bright at this young man's feet.

You don't lose that natural ability. But it can be coached out of you. Tom undoubtedly lost his way. But, to be fair, at a young age, he was saddled with unenviable tasks in a succession of poor teams. Inevitably this stunted his progression.

Tom's recent words speak volumes about the admirable character of this very genuine young man.

If the opportunity arises, I believe he would take extremely well to the challenge of European football. However, if his next destination is set to be north of the border, then he may well follow in the footsteps of a certain Mikel Arteta at Rangers and who knows?

Perhaps even return to his beloved Everton one day as the finished article. I would love to see him do exactly that and silence his detractors.

I wish you every success for the future, Tom. Put recent disappointment behind you, son, and get back to being that young dynamo who first pulled on the Royal Blue Jersey at Goodison.

All the best, lad.

Neil Carter
167 Posted 24/06/2023 at 06:38:24
Absolutely right, Phil – a very fair summary.

Very difficult now for local lads to come through to the first team. Tom was far better for us than many of the expensive midfield flops we've seen come in and disappear during his time at the club.

Good luck, Tom, wherever the next stage of your career takes you.

Mike Gaynes
168 Posted 24/06/2023 at 07:51:12
Class statement indeed. He deserves nothing but the best future he can create for himself.
Tony Everan
169 Posted 24/06/2023 at 08:28:45
Rangers are interested, that would be a great move for him. I think he would do well up there. He may even get some Champions League football, definitely Europa league. I wish him the best of luck.
Michael Lynch
170 Posted 24/06/2023 at 09:25:42
I agree with Dupont and Phil above. I remember him coming on as a sub at Chelsea and he simply ran the show, looked the best player on the pitch.

He's been asked to play in a million different positions, so that nobody – least of all him –can say exactly what he is supposed to be. Sure, maybe he flattered to deceive in those early appearances, but you don't just become a poor player when you give us much as he does.

In the end, I think we ruined Tom by not letting him develop in one position, and we ruined Calvert-Lewin by overplaying him too early in his career.

Still, that's what we're good at as a club, ruining lives. Certainly ruined mine in recent years!

Ben Howard
171 Posted 24/06/2023 at 17:18:24
Seems like a very expensive mistake to have not sold Davies last summer. Say we sold him for a conservative £5,000,000 and subsequently saved his £1,300,000 annual salary.

That means, over the 616 minutes he played across all competitions last season, he cost us £10,227 a minute!!!!!

And we wonder why the club is financially fucked!

Joe McMahon
172 Posted 24/06/2023 at 17:50:39
Agreed, Ben, but Everton are run differently than other professional football clubs. As Bill himself said, other clubs' Chairman say "The Everton Board always get it right".
Phil Lewis
173 Posted 24/06/2023 at 18:12:44
Ben #171,

Tom Davies's salary was meagre compared to some of our high-earning big-name under-achievers.

I suggest you do the maths on certain so-called stars rather than homegrown talent, to arrive at the real reason for successive seasons of failure at the club.

Ian Bennett
174 Posted 24/06/2023 at 18:58:45
Ben is right. Whilst we all wish one of our own all the best, it's been clear for a long time he wasn't going to build a long-term career with the club.

Rather than him walking out on a free, he should have been sold years ago. He wasn't because of the continual instability in the manager and Director of Football offices caused by the poor leadership at the top.

Ed Prytherch
175 Posted 24/06/2023 at 19:16:47
He was our youngest ever captain.
Si Cooper
176 Posted 25/06/2023 at 00:55:26
I was always hopeful that Tom Davies would find the way to overcome some pretty obvious shortcomings in the power and pace departments. I don't actually know if he did go the extra mile in trying to maximise what nature gave him to work with or not. Either way, for me he fell someway short of ever being more than a decent squad player so he definitely should be replaceable pretty easily.

I still wish him the best wherever he ends up and agree with others that a league with a generally less frantic pace may be his place to maximise the ability he does have. I just hope that, if he does find his niche, people don't automatically decide that 2 + 2 = 5 and complain about the club letting him leave.

Jeff Spiers
177 Posted 25/06/2023 at 10:04:44
Best of luck Tom
Steve Brown
178 Posted 26/06/2023 at 12:39:03
Kenny, Gordon and Davies gone, Holgate leaving.

I am baffled about which young players we are going to pick on next.

We might have to direct our pelters at the crappy senior players on big salaries now.

Paul Burns
179 Posted 26/06/2023 at 14:55:46
Good riddance.

Sums up everything wrong with Everton FC, a no-talent shirker at the club for years getting splinters on his arse while earning a fortune.

If you want to be nearly relegated every year, this is exactly the type of player you need along with most of the other playing staff. And scouts. And coaches. And chairman.

Time to insist on top quality in everything Everton do and there's no place for Tom Davies at that level.

Steve Brown
180 Posted 26/06/2023 at 15:29:11
Haha, you blow a whistle and the dog barks.
Brent Stephens
181 Posted 26/06/2023 at 15:36:31
Steve #180 - haha, yes you couldn't write it, could you!
Gaute Lie
182 Posted 26/06/2023 at 21:38:17
Sorry to hear him leave. Not often injured, No off football stuff fuzz. But should have progressed more than just being a sideways or backwards passer. Unfortunately, that's what he is. He can still turn into a fine footballer.

A little sad, I confess, especially when we don't see any incomings. Good luck to the lad, wish all the best for him. Just don't score against us!!!

Paul Richardson
183 Posted 27/06/2023 at 10:54:08
Wish him all the best, appears to have tried his best in a Blue shirt and behalf of the club. As with any departure, the effect on the club and team will be governed by who comes in to replace him. Monza will suit him, but I can't help thinking he will look quite an attraction to many (even Premier League) clubs. If Everton signed a 25-year-old versatile player with nearly 200 top flight games under his belt, lots of energy and plenty to prove who has a caring positive character, leadership qualities and played for England at numerous age levels, many would be saying it was a transfer coup.

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