Everton in the frame for Palace's Mateta

8 goals in two seasons. No thanks

Mateta? Is that Mikel's Mum?

We don't have the Mateta money

Defo a Dyche type signing. Could have legs.

You can see from the games Don played that Dyches system relies on a big man bringing other players in and linking up play for midfielders to score. Wouldn't excite me, but it wouldn't surprise me either.

And so the silly season starts. No doubt there will be 1001 transfer rumours over the next few weeks about who we are linked to, yet probably 99.99% of these rumours will be total bollocks, yet 99.99% of people on here will be taken in by them, criticising and moaning about the club, saying we don't need him, him, and him. It's already started, from the very first post!!

Can I just remind you all……….THEY ARE ALL FUCKING RUMOURS! They are not true, they are not going to happen!

Gary I hope he has otherwise he he's another dud. Hope his legs are longer than Maupeys

Kieran,

you could be on to something. Maybe that's where the money went.

As previously stated, 8 goals in 2 seasons, my god, and he's a forward, as the old saying go'es, '"he must have sh_t in his eye's".
NO THANK YOU !

Hakuna Mateta? Is he any good?

Olise, yes. Not Mateta.

Don't spoil the fun Rob:)

Well guys we need new players. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure that. There's nothing wrong with speculation and it's as well that the club start's now to sound these players out so that they are integrated before the new season (assuming they sign the right players).

By the way is Maupay still an Everton player.

Lingard is available and he would be a better option than Maupay.

Don't know about Mateta but if he is a better option to what we have then get him.

Personally I would go for Smith-Rowe who hasn't figured in Arteta's team selections recently.

I suppose however it all comes down to money and how much will be available if any so the quicker they offload the underachiever's the better.

Seems a lazy link re-hashed from january. But it's not the craziest idea.

He was decent in Germany and in his first season for Palace. He has the sort of profile that Dyche might like. I doubt he'd be the first choice striker but if he was on loan to provide a better option than Maupay then there may be some sense to it.

I strongly suspect it's rubbish though and we will have other, better targets.

What a wonderful phrase. Ain't no passing craze. It means no worries, for the rest of your days.

It's our problem free, philosophy.

Hakuna Mateta.

He's absolute shoite

Rob #6, yeah, I know, but WHAT THE FUCK ELSE are we supposed to do all summer?

Face it, speculating on owners is not as much fun as speculating on strikers.

And speculating on points deductions and sanctions is no fun at all.

So... sorry, Rob, but....

BRING ON THE RUMORS!!!

(Rumours)

Great, another striker who doesn't score goals.

As for mentioning Lingard, christ almighty, apparently his attitude is terrible and he cant be arsed to do anything, doesn't care if he plays or not. Dont touch with a barge pole. We have to start learning our lessons about signing this sort of player.

Course there will be lots of rumours, doesn't mean we can't react too them. T.hat's what football is all about

Rob (#6) is correct. Little will happen before 30 June when all player contracts end. But the rumour mill will fill the vacuum.

My concern – and I hope I'm wrong – is that unless we sell at least one player for a significant sum (which being Everton will be the last day of the transfer window anyway) we'll be shopping in the free transfer market.

Sam (Hoare). Any decent free transfers or out-of-contract players on your radar?

There's a difference to reacting to rumours, and slating the club for “Showing an interest” which is what most people do, or “What the fuck are we buying him for” when there is absolutely no foundation whatsoever in any of these rumours.

We have to sign some players as this squad is so light that we have positions in the team that are pretty much unfilled.

We can't afford the good and proven ones.

Logic dictates that we are going to sign some players that we aren't overly thrilled about.

They'll either be proven average or unproven. Personally I'd prefer unproven, in the positions we need, with some resale value after 3/4 years (ie, age 26 maximum). But that would need an actual transfer strategy.

A player that has scored 8 goals in 2 years isn't what we need.

Bollocks.

Given the players we've had and have and the seasons we have whatever 11 starts the first game of the season and on get behind them and that Goodison roar - the away fan roar and boost them - we've had shite all to be happy about for the last 7 years - hopefully this season will change for the better - let's give the negative a rest for a while - it's the nature of the beast to be angry and negative but we've got to have a change for the better both with the criminal board and they way the teams have played - fingers crossed for a decent season 🤞💙

“… who has reportedly told Crystal Palace he'd like to play somewhere other than Selhurst Park next season”

And Palace said “Er…okay.”

No, Tony, all of him.

Rob (6),

There were five posts before your tirade. Not one says anything remotely close to slagging anyone off or indicates they fully believe this is 100% genuine.

If you don't like transfer rumours, I'd suggest you stay away from the section called ‘The Rumour Mill' for a few months; otherwise, your head might explode.

He's rubbish.

We will be in trouble again if we replace Calvert-Lewin with this guy. And it will be a replacement as Calvert-Lewin will continue to be a sicknote.

Buying Tammy Abraham is a bit of a pipe dream but surely we can buy Beto, and at least have the Gordon money to spend on a couple of decent players.

Brent, I'm sure Mateta values his testes satchel at 㾻M+, but we can't get involved even with the rest of his anatomy thrown in for free.

He's unsettled at Palace, he'd be unsettled here, he's rumoured to want to return to Germany and his agent is doing a bit of PR work to get a deal. He was just average at best at Palace most of the time with a few good games thrown in and I'm unconvinced that Dyche would make him that much better.

I feel better now for elaborating.

I read we were just outside the frame but mulling over preparing an approach.

Considering we're under investigation for breach of P&S rules, where's the money going to come from?

Si, what tirade? I merely said that the way people react on here was as if it was a foregone conclusion that we are signing any of these rumours.

I look at the gossip page on the BBC website everyday, more for a laugh more than anything, cos I don't believe a word of any of them, but then I don't come on here saying stuff like “Great, What the fuck are we signing so and so for”, "another waste of money", etc etc etc, as if it's a foregone conclusion that we're definitely signing these rumours.

The only people whose heads explode are the ones who go ape-shit over a rumour.

I really hope this and the Tammy Abraham rumours are not true and we learned our lesson with Maupay's signing. Cheap forwards who have a poor goalscoring record are not the answer.

Eric (32), we're under investigation for the 2021-22 financial year. The independent commission's deliberations won't have any bearing on our spending this summer but the ongoing need to remain compliant with the Premier League's P&S rules will remain.

Any money we do spend, therefore, will probably need to come from player sales even though the 㿴m received for Gordon and Kean will count towards both the current financial year's accounts and the running three-year total of losses (which can't exceed 𧴡m as we know, although the allowances for Covid, etc still apply for 2020-21).

Jay #34,

Tammy Abraham isn't a cheap striker with a poor goal scoring record so not sure why you are hoping that rumour isn't true.

With our current standing, it would be a major coup if we could buy him.

Jay, Abraham had kind of a crappy season, but for his entire top-level career (Chelsea and Roma), he scores a goal every 182 minutes, which is quite good, and he also adds an assist every five games or so.

Gavin, landing him wouldn't be a coup. Given our financial and table status, it would be a miracle.

Lyndon #35, might the commission be in a forgiving mood -- or at least a less punitive one -- if the club had changed ownership by the time their ruling came down?

And might that reasonably be something the new owners would work out before closing the deal?

Folks, it's as plain as a pikestaff to me and more learned observers that Moshiri and Kenwright have royally fucked us for years to come when it comes to signings of any significance, on account of their gross recklessness and negligence (to put it kindly).

Anyone contending "hopefulness" whilst they're still in situ is, to me, bizarre.

If they get out this year, their legacy will still crucify us for years to come, regardless of the as yet far from paid for "White-Elephant" stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock.

Unknowns now pitching in just over 𧴜M to buy-in to us are irrelevant. At least five teams have bought at least one player for nigh on that sum every season for years.

We bought instead Ramirez, Schneiderlin, Klaassen and many more of their ilk though, for 𧴜's of millions.

So, all-in-all, I'm in the "Rob" camp. Rumours are pointless and disappointment (always) is our only realistic expectation.

Mike, yep, it would definitely be a miracle if we could bring Abraham in, with the state we're currently in.

I'd like us to buy Beto and the lad from Almeria, El Bilal Toure. The latter only scored 6 goals last season but he looks like he's the right age, has speed and power and could get a lot better. He can play on the right wing too. Looks great on YouTube, which is not a great barometer in itself, but I'm still hoping that story has some legs.

If we could buy those two players for around 㿙m (or call it the Gordon money) I'd be reasonably happy.

I think we could bring in some bargains, like the attacking No.10 Japanese player who is out of contract from Eintracht Frankfurt as an alternative to Doucouré. He'll have plenty of suitors but you never know.

There's the young midfielder, Tom Kraus, apparently available at around ٢-5 million euros who could be a replacement for Tom Davies,

We then have deadwood going out like Maupay, Gomes, and Gbamin. We might only get around 㾶M for all of them on a good day, but that could be used to bring a couple of full-backs in on loan.

Lyndon #35, I just don't have any confidence that the Club had sorted out subsequent years and made us sound financially.

Hence the need to sell players like Gordon and not replace them, with the money going to pay off debt or to make the books look good in some other accounting dark arts way.

Mike @20,

Robert Tressell has just put out a good article with lots of free/cheap options we might go for.

My own transfer piece will be out next week or the week after. Though I think we may have a little more money to spend, in some areas, thanks to a low net spend over the last few seasons and (hopefully) new investment.

I know they're only rumours, but…

We need 2 strikers this window. That will allow us to sell/get rid of Maupay and loan out Simms or Cannon again. 4 strikers going into the season and if they were:

Calvert-Lewin
Tammy Abraham
Jean-Philippe Mateta
Simms or Cannon

We'd be in a much better position and Dyche would have the type of striker he usually has.

Tammy Abraham? There is an equal chance of him playing for Everton next season as me.

He sounds perfect for us, another non scoring forward, no thanks, he's just a big physical lump, let's hope he goes elsewhere

Rob's right and most of us know that having seen the literally hundreds of names linked with the club over the past few windows.
It can provide an interesting diversion however assessing which of these rumours would best fulfil our present needs,and more to the point which are attainable,while there is no real football going on to occupy our minds.
It does raise the question however of the limited effectiveness of our scouting setup in identifying prospective talent and our decision making team in getting deals over the line before they are snapped up by our rivals
With regard to Mateta,I'm with Dean @ 16 although I don't think he's that good!!!

If Marteta wants away from Palace then he probably wants away from the UK as well, unless the likes of City, Arsenal etc are interested, which they are not. According to "reports" we have apparently bid £27.5 million for Tammy Abrahams who is currently at Roma. I doubt a word of it is true and I don't think in our current financial mess we could afford to splurge that kind of cash on one player anyway. As things stand we have to get a lot more bang for our buck so we must scour just about every league in every nation to come up with absolute bargains. No more overpriced and overpaid divas and benchwarmers.

I suspect that there probably are moves afoot to improve the squad quality / depth at very low cost while the takeover / third party investment arrangements are being resolved. That at least means we're not in the same desperate position as we have been this season.

Mateta is no great shakes but he's obviously a much better fit for us than Maupay when Calvert-Lewin is unavailable. With him in the side we might well have beaten Fulham at home, even Newcastle, and probably put 2 or 3 past Bournemouth on the final day.

So the likes of Mateta, Krauss and other loans or frees and really cheap signings might go ahead as a precaution. But we can safely ignore rumours of Tammy Abraham and other big signings arriving. They are obviously complete nonsense.

Conor Coady on 5Live - 7pm Monday Night Club prog.

Mateta? No thanks and he wouldn't come anyway.

LAst night I had a dream ( nightmare):

My very Frightening XI for 23-24 opening game v Burnley:

Pickford, Patterson, Keane, Tarkowski, Mykolenko, Iwobi, Garner, Onana, Gueye, McNeil and Senor Cheepy Asa Chipa - not so famous Bolivian International.

Subs: Begovic, Lonergan, Godfrey, Branthwaite, Calvert-Lewin, Cannon, and Gray. (Calvert-Lewin withdrawn late due to a twinge in warm up. Replaced by Mills.)

In the stands Juan Batista LB free transfer from Algeria 2nd Division and Yuri Mankovic CM free transfer from Uzbekistan. Not signed in time.

Doucouré sold to Luton who offered 㿅M which we couldn't turn down. It's the hope, isn't it, that kills you?

The notion that we will be spending any money until we sell seems like wishful thinking. I doubt we will see any movement in or out until after the end of our accounting year on 30 June.

As regards the names ‘in the frame', we can expect as usual there will be over 60 linked with us in the coming months.

We desperately need a physical presence up front when Calvert-Lewin is unavailable. Players like Mateta and Abraham offer that. But that's only half of the equation. We also desperately need players to put the ball in the net on a consistent basis.

Expect a bid for Pickford pronto from Man Utd after that 2nd goal today.

Jack, I was thinking the same. He had a buyout clause of 㿏M but I'm not sure whether relegation triggered that. It will or should cost them much more for England's goalkeeper. How much did Chelsea pay for Kepa?

Can anyone confirm that we have 㿙 million from the sales of Gordon and 㿇 million from the sale of Kean sitting in the coffers??

Or are all incomings already swallowed up?

Steve, that money was a desperate attempt to reduce losses for FFP. I don't think the money will be sat there waiting to be spent.

I can understand why we are linked with this type of player, but I don't think he is the answer. We will be going for strong athletic players and I would be going for likes of my considered list of targets, I would want on my Everton list. I had an hour and a half on a plane thinking about this..

Right-Backs:
J Frimpong
J Clauss
T Castange

Left-Backs:
C Henrique

Centre-Backs:
J Tah
E Tapsoba
M Lacroix
D Garcia
R Becau
K Danso

Centre-Midfield
R Lavia
F Neuhaus
C Gallagher
K Thuram
R Loftus-Cheek
W Ndidi

Playmakers:
D Szoboszlai
W Zaire-Emery (Loan)
L Guler
G Veiga
D Kamada
S Fofana
M Kudos

Right-Forwards:
G Prestiani (YTH potential)
C Husdon-Odoi
L Kang-In
Ramanzini

Left-Forwards
J Doku
N Lang
L Ocampos
P Neto
M Thuram

Centre-Forwards:
Y Ben Wedder
L Openda
Beto
M Ali Cho (ex Everton youth)

I think we need at least 7 players and maybe 8 if Coleman retires. Big summer…

Kent, Akpom and the lad from Coventry and we're good to go!

Very limited viewing but he seemed fairly decent to me. However, only way we'd get him is if he's decided he's not the most favoured at Palace (which doesn't make him bad because they have a very decent bunch of attacking players).

It is only a rumour, but I think this type of player may be the level we are aspiring to. If he craves the opportunity to become a big fish in a potentially bigger pond than Selhurst Park then this may have legs.