Everton star winds up Liverpool supporters and explains why Merseyside is Blue

I've always thought we are roughly a 50-50 split, which is amazing considering what we've gone through.

I think it depends on which part of the city you come from. Where I am from it tends to be be weighted in their favour. But move north of the city centre and it becomes Evertonia.

That's my experience. It's all still pretty mixed though, as we always have been.

I talk to my sister a lot and she verifies those figures. It's why I differentiate between genuine Kopites who can't get to the match because of the deliberate tourism. Don't get me wrong, we have supporters who travel a long way to watch Everton, myself included, but they almost escort them into the club shop with a shopping bag ready!!

The rest are a bunch of plastic-fantastic home counties Southerners (plus one weirdo from Norfolk) who couldn't find the city let alone their ground without satnav.

When working offshore on the Norwegian vessels in the early '80s, I noticed a helluva lot of rs fanatics that had never even been to Anfield... they used to get the matches live over in Norway, Thailand, Philippines in those days.

I have only had one close friend who was red shite from Thornton, still a very close friend. But the other six or seven in our gang were all blue.

This reminds me of something I posted a little while ago, that I could count on two hands the number of times I have been south of town (not counting trains). Even today, I have no clue how to drive from Crosby to say West Derby, Knotty Ash, or Tuebrook, although I could make it to Aigburth.

Speke tends to be a Liverpool stronghold aside from pockets like my immediate family. It's still mixed though as is my wider family, it just leans towards red.

They have become that big, you could argue they have outgrown our city and this is why whoever purchases Everton have got so much scope right now.

Queens Drive, Paul, unless you know the shortcuts, mate!

I find that Crosby is overwhelmingly LFC supporting.

Parts of the Wirral such as Birkenhead and Wallasey have a good proportion of Evertonians. I would also say that Fazakerley has lots of Evertonians compared to most other parts of the city.

St Helens also has a decent Everton following.

Most other parts of the city I would say are a 70:30 split of LFC to EFC fans. But yes, as outliers I would say in my experience it's more like 90:10 in Crosby, Waterloo, Bootle and Seaforth.

And Fazakerley is probably the only place where there are more blues than reds.

Didn't realise that my district was so popular with the Norwegians and Cockneys...

"90:10 in Crosby, Waterloo, Bootle and Seaforth". Sorry mate but that is utterly ridiculous.

Equally ridiculous: "most other parts of the city I would say are a 70:30 split of LFC to EFC".

You've conducted city-wide censuses Tommy, broken down to all its constituent areas?

Should I pack a flask, warm blankets, torch, and guide to South Liverpool scouse?

No links to Merseyside at all.

I've been an Everton supporter for over 30 years, I had no family into football at all so basically picked a team to follow, my county has no Premier League teams.

Keep driving past the Rocket, and you will come to Childwall Fiveways, and if you take the third exit, and carry straight on, you will eventually end up in the beautiful Sefton Pk!

It's probably much easier going along the bottom road, from Crosby, all the way to Otterspool, no wonder you know how to get to Aigburth!

Cheers!

It could be said that popularity wise pre Shankly they and football for that matter were not to the forefront of peoples minds.

But, helped by the slowly rising post war prosperity... Harold MacMillan's "You've never had it so good" – plus the advent of the 40-hour / 5-day working week and the advent of 'Popular Culture' in the '60s.

Anyway, back on topic; in my school the split was 45%/45%/10% with the 10% being the weirdos, nerds, etc.

For 10 years, we were neck and neck then came that fateful 5 days in 1971 when we went out of 2 Cups.

As was said on here – 'We don't do Dynasties'

Don't ever say you are a plastic Evertonian. You are one of us as much as any of the blue family.

I still pride myself on knowing my way around the city when I go home, but believe me, Tony knows how to navigate those streets better than anyone!!

It was Everton for me from a very early age. I haven't been to Goodison for nearly 10 years now as I'm in the US now but every time I've visited the city it's felt like home.

I've previously been called a Plastic Scouser by one of my Merseyside-born blue mates but I took it as a term of endearment! No such thing as a Plastic Evertonian though.

There is no census for such and therefore your disagreement with me is equally ridiculous.

I'm just going off a general sample of ten people I know from each of those areas and then giving an opinion based upon my own experiences.

As for LFC to EFC ratio within the city - that is just a complete guess but I would imagine there are many more LFC fans than Evertonians in this city.

For one reason or another, we have a good reputation down here, while the RS are loathed.

Also I believe we have more season ticket holders than them anyway.

Their club sees fit to not release as many season tickets as us.

I'm in East Mids. I decided to go into the local high street the day after beating Liverpool wearing an old Everton sweat shirt. I only did it for the benefit of the usual multitude of RS who throng the streets wearing that awful red Disappointingly, for the first time ever, I never saw a single red shirt.
What I wasnt ready for, was being treated like a minor celebrity by everyone else. I've never had my back slapped so many times in my life. You'd think I'd scored the winner.

Of course I knew blue scousers hated them, but what I didnt realise is how universally despised everybody's "second favorite team" actually is.

It's amazing we still have reasonable fan numbers but allowing the imbalance of club ambitions to continue will result in lots of empty seats at BMD once the novelty has worn off.

Barry@27, you have been away too long mate. Our kids have seen nothing, but look at the way they organized the coach greetings in our hour of need?

I have heard from people a lot older than me that when Shankly went to Liverpool, their fans who had been in the doldrums for so long, were absolutely desperate for some success, which is exactly the impression I get of how us Evertonians feel now.

Over 30,000 on the waiting list for a season ticket is absolutely unbelievable imo, Barry, mate

I get the same living in west London. The Manchester City supporting landlord of my local, the Chelsea supporters and my Arsenal supporting neighbour. Whenever I bump into him on the drive or walking the dogs, he always asks me about Everton!

They despise them and there is intrigue about Everton.

Ray, with there being so many Liverpool "supporters" down here, I often have to (shamefully) educate them on their club as they can hardly spell Anfield.

You may find I acknowledged the existing support.

But in comparative terms it's almost impossible for us to claim more local fans given the records of the 2 clubs since 1959.

Just ask any teacher what the % of reds vs blues are at their schools.

I keep saying Everton should already be creating a blue quarter, and because it's very difficult for the local Liverpudlians, (even if they only have themselves to blame for this) to get tickets, then this could really work in our favour, once we get through our darkest hour, because I'm convinced there's a new dawn on the horizon, for Everton Football Club🤞

Sensible post, Ray R. I took great delight in Liverpudlians being forced to travel from South Parkway,the last time the two clubs met at Wembley, with the local boys, travelling from Lime St!

As Tony says, you only need to see it around the streets of County Road on match day.

The piece is titled Merseyside is blue.

If that isn't claiming we have more support locally beyond the stadium, I don't know what is.

But everyone seems to be forgetting that 1 of us is worth 20 of them, so the figures above become 1000:50.

"1 of us is worth 20 of them, so the figures above become 1000:50"

I have that coffee mug and, believe it or not, changed it for another Everton one to bring better luck – and it worked over the last few wins!!!

UTFT!

Another reason to like Vitalii, though!

No probs, Tone, but it's family get together evening which means the sons-in-law have to suffer my domination of the karaoke.

I've put the chair for the red right next to the amp. Oh yes!

You relied on subjective perception mate, so nothing that would stand up in any sort of respected tribunal whether people or the law. Your samples are piss poor mate.

Well, having grown up in and covered most inches in Bootle and Crosby, I can confidently say your one-in-ten is wrong and actually insulting.

But you're an Evertonian and that's all that matters.

All the best to you and yours.

If I look at my family, 11 Evertonians, 12 Liverpudilians. It's a close call.

And it does vary depending on the area, but it is mixed.

We have to get real. While we've regressed to be virtually unknown outside of these shores, they've become a PR, media driven monster. They are a money making machine for UEFA, the EPL, the FA, the printed media, TV companies etc…. We can't compete with that so an entire generation has been raised on the myth of their greatness.

It's no use trying to kid ourselves. All we can do is hope and pray that one day we might become a serious, ambitious club once again and inspire a new generation of Blues because if we don't we could go the way of former giants like Torino FC, Schalke and Red Star Belgrade.

ps: I know Torino have made their way back but you know what I mean.

The Konigsblauen (Royal Blues), Schalke 04 fell from grace. I follow them.

Languishing in the second tier of German football. At one point, I feared they were in danger of dropping down to the 3rd tier. It didn't do Manchester City any harm in the long term.

Schalke have dragged themselves up the table and sit comfortably in 10th place on 43 points.

We won't hit 10th, but can finish on 43 points.

A sample is all it is based on. Call it poor if you want. But until you can prove me wrong with facts and statistics, then my opinion holds up.

Your opinion is yours. Mine is mine.

As I've said many times, my sister works at Anfield. She can tell you a thing or two about the Liverpool support.

I used to, meet the better half. I was never allowed in as I wasn't trusted.

My son went in and called Fowler fish face. Not sure where he got that from.

Apparently there was a gambling culture and David James' wife would restrict his money on away trips. John Barnes was a was a touchy womaniser.

Outside, I once bumped into Roy Evans. I childishly blanked him.

The best one though, was watching Neil Ruddock and his wife pull up in some sort of open top sports car, then having a massive row.

It was like a scene out of footballer's wives!!