Season › 2023-24 › News Gbamin still without a club as Everton blamed for injury hell 26/10/2023 39comments | Jump to last Jean-Philippe Gbamin is still without a club after tearing up his contract with Everton and foregoing his final year's salary worth £5m. But his agent, Brian Collignon is claiming that his problems have been caused by the way he was treated by Everton from the beginning of his highly lucrative 5-year contract. “When Jean-Philippe signed at Everton in 2019, he came straight from Afcon and then had a 3-week break after a long season. He had to rest. But after 4 days training with Everton, JP played a match. He had not done a pre-season. The next game, he played 90 minutes!" Collignon told The Guardian this week. “This is not just an Everton problem though, this is an English problem – clubs don’t know how to manage a player regarding injuries. This is the reputation. Players are signed to very high salaries. But because of that, they are expected to play, whether you are fit or not. They don’t care. The intensity of the Premier League is so high that when a player is injured or not fit, they should recover slowly, step by step." » Read the full article at The Guardian Reader Comments (39) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Jim Bennings 1 Posted 26/10/2023 at 08:18:41 Fortunately he's no longer our problem.He still picked up a fat wage for doing nothing. Mark Ryan 2 Posted 26/10/2023 at 08:21:32 So he snapped his Achilles whilst on his own, at home and not whilst training at Finch Farm or playing in a game for Everton — and Everton are to blame? Brian Collignon, you are a bell-end of the highest order. The wages talked about here for this lad are mind-blowing. Rob Halligan 3 Posted 26/10/2023 at 08:28:36 How do you play football tennis on your own? Ben King 4 Posted 26/10/2023 at 08:32:32 Perhaps unfair but I don't have any sympathy for the guy. Danny Baily 5 Posted 26/10/2023 at 08:33:41 I highly doubt that offers from the likes of Arsenal or Liverpool were seriously on the table back in 2019. The entire article is revisionist nonsense. He simply wasn't up to playing in the Premier League. Brent Stephens 6 Posted 26/10/2023 at 08:39:11 Rob,“How do you play football tennis on your own?â€Be able to hit it high and be able to run fast. Jerome Shields 7 Posted 26/10/2023 at 09:02:13 I think the agent has the wrong end of the stick. Gbamin was injury-prone before joining Everton and they thought they could handle it at the medical. He had a previous thigh injury. Being a rest and recovery regime, there is a resilience deficit in the training regime at Everton, which results in botched rehabilitations. Gbamin needed to be fit to get the match time to get up to the speed of play of the Premier League. He never got either fit or up to speed. We got to see Gbamin kick the ball three times.There were other players at Everton like him, but their agents were better at managing these players' financial interests. Ray Roche 8 Posted 26/10/2023 at 09:13:59 When Gbamin was in Court charged with motoring offences the fine was based on his earnings which were stated to be £20 or £25k a week. That doesn't add up to £5M. If the rest of the article is as accurate as the agent's claims, then file it under 'Fiction'. Ajay Gopal 9 Posted 26/10/2023 at 09:14:52 A club with Everton's financial resources cannot afford to lose players for long periods of time – especially those marquee signings, who have been purchased for high transfer fees. The past 4-5 years, Gbamin, Bolasie, Gomes, Mina, Delph, Tosun, Allan, etc who were all brought in for £20-25 million fees (except Delph who came in for a bit lower) and high salaries, suffered extended periods of injuries. Everton did not have the resources to just go out and buy replacements as the Top 6-7 clubs are able to do without batting an eyelid. Most of these injuries were unfortunate or unlucky but they dealt body blows to Everton's ability to compete, and it is one of the main reasons why we have struggled so badly the past couple of seasons. Maybe. just maybe, we have turned the corner, and Dyche's conservative approach (the approach to Calvert-Lewin's injury, which is what the agent is saying should have happened in Gbamin's case) is just what is needed at this stage, plus a long-overdue dollop of luck for the good health of our players.Regarding Gbamin, letting go of £5 million was a brave and honourable thing to do – and let us honestly ask ourselves – how many of us would have forfeited such a massive amount of money in the same situation? Ray Roche 10 Posted 26/10/2023 at 09:21:46 Ajay, he's not forfeiting that much, mate – read my earlier post. Plus he injured himself titting about at home and was also banned from driving for getting behind the wheel of his Audi RS8 whilst under the influence of alcohol. Tony Abrahams 11 Posted 26/10/2023 at 09:23:45 When you talk about rest and recovery systems, Jerome, could you expand on this a bit more please, mate? I'm not being facetious, I'm just hoping you can tell me about the different methods other clubs might use, especially because there are so many different injuries, that must need different approaches to help getting a player fit.Lucas Digne was back from a broken ankle in an incredibly short space of time, which makes me want to ask the question, is it sometimes about how much and how quickly a player wants to be really fit? Eric Myles 12 Posted 26/10/2023 at 09:32:24 I used to play tennis football against the gable wall of our end of terrace house.And also in the front living room of the house. Tony Everan 13 Posted 26/10/2023 at 09:33:10 Ajay, Add on Godfrey £25M and a £15-20M contract with his snapped leg and long Covid. Not impressed before injuries but, like Gomes, Bolasie, Gbamin, Tosun, unfortunately not up to the required standard afterwards. Sigurdsson £45M plus his £10M remaining contract, denied charges, not enough evidence, case dropped. Also, don't forget the Russian player of the year 2015: £15M + £15M contract… recently released by Morcambe, Dean Williams 14 Posted 26/10/2023 at 09:39:55 He was fucking shite anyway. Fuck him, we've bigger things to worry about. John Pickles 15 Posted 26/10/2023 at 09:47:03 Either way, him signing for us, was a disaster for all involved. Brian Harrison 16 Posted 26/10/2023 at 09:50:31 We do seem to be a club that buys players who spend more time in the treatment room than on the pitch. We have 2 current players both earning in excess of £100,000 a week and neither have kicked a ball for the first team for a very long time. Is it any wonder this club is in financial difficulties when we are spending fortunes on players who haven't played for a long time? Yes, the nature of football is that players get injured and certainly Gomes suffered an horrendous injury, but he was out on loan all last season and wasn't out injured at Lille. Yet he comes back and all of a sudden despite speculation he would move in the summer window, he is now injured again.I think if you could see how many games most of our players played last season and then priced up wages against minutes on the pitch, then we have some of the most expensive players in the Premier League. Roger Helm 17 Posted 26/10/2023 at 10:14:07 I agree with most of the above but there might be a degree of truth in it, we had more than our share of soft tissue injuries. Some date it from when Martinez got rid of Moyes's strength and conditioning coaches. Or perhaps we got less careful about the physical resilience of some of the players we signed. Players these days are like thoroughbred horses, very high maintenance. Tony Abrahams 18 Posted 26/10/2023 at 10:46:19 If every single person of importance is not on the same page then how do you start to plan and then begin to execute your plans? Ian Jones 19 Posted 26/10/2023 at 11:10:28 I picked up on this...'When JP had an injury earlier in his career at Lens, he played four reserve games after he was fully recovered, before rejoining the first team. Match fitness, confidence, it all plays a part.'That's a key part of a player's fitness which probably doesn't happen in the modern Premier League game.Back in the days of black and white, it's my understanding that players generally played their way back into the first team via a series of fairly competitive reserve games, for example Central League, to prove their fitness and get them match fit etc.Modern-day football is so different for so many reasons, which I won't cover because we'd be here all day debating it... :) Mike Dolan 20 Posted 26/10/2023 at 11:48:17 We had high hopes for him when he arrived but he did nothing to help his situation. Playing football tennis is not training but neither is not passing an alcohol breath test the morning after a night of drinking.Having said that, I think there is some truth in the agent bringing up Everton's shocking record concerning the fitness and conditioning of our players. It is something that under Dyche seems to be gradually improving. Remember when teams used to build up strength and fitness by running for an hour or two on the Sandhills? (It was Liverpool under Bill Shankly TBH.) Jerome Shields 21 Posted 26/10/2023 at 11:55:36 Tony#11If a player has niggles, they are given a rest so they complete as many sessions as possible, cut the sessions short if someone's a bit sore, attend Medical Services on a regular basis. Medical Services are in control. Or Build them up and push them through those periods where they're a little sore, a little bit tender and a little bit fatigued … to provide them with that robustness to get through. Medical Service are used as part of the process and the Performance Manager is in control.The first is Rest and Recovery the second is High Performance. Everton's so-called School of Science training regime is the first Rest and Recovery and the rest of the Premier League are some form of the second High Performance regime.Hope this explains the difference. Can't go into detail at the moment, just got a phonecall – my brother-in-law (57) found dead, did not wake up this morning. Niall McIlhone 22 Posted 26/10/2023 at 12:31:07 Following on from Mark's comment (#2), this agent really does have a brass neck doesn't he? If he was so concerned as to the poor fitness regimes in the English Premier League, why on earth did he match his client with Everton FC? Perhaps his agent's fee had something to do with it? On another matter, I see Nathan Broadhead is ripping it up with Ipswich Town, a player with an eye for goal who we let go for a few million. I know it's always a judgement call with young players, but maybe it's another example of our poor business with transfers in recent years? Michael Adamson 23 Posted 26/10/2023 at 12:44:48 I have a violin for you here, Gbamin, but every time I play it, it just pisses itself laughing at this tripe... Move on. You barely played enough for the fans to remember who you are! Matt Byrne 24 Posted 26/10/2023 at 13:07:43 Can't be bothered reading the article. He offered nothing and became a millionaire. The rest of us have to work hard to survive and pay rent or mortgages. Everton have enough problems without more digs from a player (or agent) who should be glad he won the lottery when he signed for us. Joe McMahon 25 Posted 26/10/2023 at 13:27:22 How do I put it? Wanker! Is he serious. We'd all love to be paid thousands every week for doing Bo Didley. Robert Tressell 26 Posted 26/10/2023 at 13:30:04 Niall #22. Nathan Broadhead isn't ripping it up in the Championship. Now 25, he's doing fine in a well organised team… that's all. Good luck to him but he's doing nothing to suggest he's a Premier League quality striker. Our mistake was hanging on to him too long, not letting him go too early. Jim Burns 27 Posted 26/10/2023 at 13:59:58 Oh look - the Guardian again - I wonder who contacted who? Niall McIlhone 29 Posted 26/10/2023 at 14:57:30 It's a matter of opinion, Robert (#26). He's got six goals in total this season, and according to my friend (Lucas) who is a big Ipswich fan and goes to the games.Nathan Broadhead is very popular with their fanbase, and playing well, albeit, as you say, in a very good side. Peter Gorman 30 Posted 26/10/2023 at 18:59:25 Sorry for your loss, Jerome. Ian Jones 31 Posted 26/10/2023 at 19:04:38 Jerome, sorry to hear your news. Very sad for your family. Have a friend whose cousin didn't wake up one morning, so although not a direct family member, sort of know what you are going through. Think that makes sense. Take care. Robert Tressell 32 Posted 26/10/2023 at 20:20:43 Jerome I missed your comment earlier. Condolences. Very sad news. Tony Everan 33 Posted 26/10/2023 at 20:42:18 Jerome, so sad, condolences. Tony Abrahams 34 Posted 26/10/2023 at 20:45:05 Forget about everything else, Jerome, I'm so sorry to hear you have received such awful news. 🙠Kieran Kinsella 35 Posted 26/10/2023 at 21:03:07 The full interview removed any hint of sympathy and showed the rub: money. His agent said when he was free, the clubs able to sign couldn't afford wages for someone of his quality. So rather than play football, he's holding out for a big deal rather like Jesse Lingard. Jack Wilshere was better than both and to his credit he rolled the dice playing for peanuts in Scandinavia to try and revive his career. Sadly he couldn't and I doubt these two will either with their wage demands. Jerome Shields 36 Posted 27/10/2023 at 09:17:05 Thank you all for your condolences. Steve Shave 37 Posted 27/10/2023 at 13:51:11 Gbamin and his agent have shown their true colours over the past year when they have spoken out against the club or publicising their wish to leave. Given how much he has earned from us and offered so little in return, I think it shows a lack of class to speak out against the club. He was desperately unlucky, awful injury. I can't help but wonder what would have happened if he had stayed fit and adapted to the Premier League, and we had signed Zouma… Something tells me Silva would still be our manager. Dave Cashen 38 Posted 27/10/2023 at 16:16:09 A typical Marcel Brands signing. A perennial sick note.While every member of our boardroom has been held accountable by angry Evertonians throughout the past couple of seasons (rightly so), the man who did, by far and away, the most damage was somehow allowed to walk away with barely a finger pointed in his direction.Brands had an eye for sick notes: Mina, Gomes, Delph and Godfrey often joined Gbamin on the "not available" list. Others hardly figured because they were crap. The £230M he paid in transfers is dwarfed by the amounts he squandered paying ridiculous wages to people who were either not fit enough, or not good enough.Coming up to half a billion pounds spent in less than four years as DOF and the squad he left behind is only in the Premier League because there have been three even more appalling sides to save us. Two seasons running. Gbamin is only the tip of the iceberg. How much healthier our financial position would be today if Mr Brands had not darkened our doorstep. Steve Shave 39 Posted 27/10/2023 at 17:20:09 Dave, you make some good points but it has oft been questioned how much autonomy Brands actually had. Agree on paper it looks bad for him but look at Walsh's and Koeman's splurge, we never recovered from it.I guess wherever you look under Moshiri's tenure, it has been pretty much bad decision after bad decision; Moshiri is the common denominator here, I'm afraid. Raymond Fox 40 Posted 27/10/2023 at 18:02:49 The Guardian really like us, don't they… any sniff of negativity and they pounce on it.Anyone from that paper wouldn't get into Goodison if I had any say in it. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb