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Dele Alli is "back on the grass" at Finch Farm according to Sean Dyche and is set to be gradually integrated into training with the rest of the first team over the course of this month.

The 27-year-old hasn't played any competitive football since the later stages of his season-long loan at Besiktas last season when he sustained a hip injury that required surgery in the spring.

He was in the process of stepping up his rehabilitation in early September but suffered a set-back that has kept him from training fully again until very recently.

Sean Dyche says, however, that Dele has told him he is feeling good as he continues to work with the club's medical staff and hinted that the fomer Tottenham forward could play again next month. 

“He is back on the grass with the sports science/fitness side, going through football-related drills, but the actual freedom to join in with us is not there yet," the manager was quoted as saying by The Guardian “Hopefully over the next week he will start blending in.

"He still has a bit to go because he has been out for a long time. He needs a game programme, but to get him back with us would be really pleasing for him because he has been so unlucky.

“The last time, 12-13 weeks ago when he was going to join in, he was so unlucky with the damage that was done. But the good news is that everything is settling down and he is feeling good. I saw him earlier and he said: ‘I’m feeling great.’

“His first thing will be to come in with us, but it will be light. He might do the warm-up and passing drills and then he will step away and continue his work with the sports science team.

“Then over a 10-day period it blends back into a point where you go: ‘Now you are joining in with us.’ That would not be the process if you have been out for 10 days, but with a longer-term injury it is about getting the body balance going again and training naturally.”

Dele's contract with Everton is up next summer which presents a dilemma for the club given that he can only make six more appearances before a £10m payment is due to Spurs as part of the deal that brought him to Goodison Park from North London in January 2022.

Director of Football, Kevin Thelwell, has reportedly sounded out Tottenham about renegotiating the terms of that transfer deal but discussions have only been preliminary at this stage.

 

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Karl Masters
1 Posted 07/12/2023 at 00:09:13
I'm ambivalent about him. Not pinning any hopes there, that's for sure, but… if he can regain his form… we will see.
Jerome Shields
2 Posted 07/12/2023 at 00:10:45
I suppose he is an option, but we will take a lot of convincing.
Andy McNabb
3 Posted 07/12/2023 at 00:42:48
We have done remarkably well with injuries this season. Someone on TW made the comment that we are one of two players away from being a decent side and one or two injuries away from a crisis.

Given our parlous situation, I presume there will be little incoming in the January window, so 9 games from Dele Alli at least gives us another option.

Mark Taylor
4 Posted 07/12/2023 at 00:55:07
Much as I have sympathy with Dele for his awful childhood experiences, he will play a maximum of 6 games for us.

I wouldn't personally be surprised if it were none.

If he really wanted to give something back for the £20M plus we have wasted on him thus far, thanks to Kenwright's magnificent negotiating skills, he would re-sign for us next season, free of the Levy inspired manacles, on a performance related contract.

Pigs might also fly...

Kieran Kinsella
5 Posted 07/12/2023 at 02:29:08
Andy don’t jinx us mate! I’m in agreement with everything Mark Taylor said. Excellent post.
Mark Andersson
6 Posted 07/12/2023 at 04:11:17
Dele was and still could be a fantastic player, but once again the powers that be brought in a dud...

Hope he does play 5 games and shines.

Mike Gaynes
7 Posted 07/12/2023 at 04:34:38
Can't wait to see him out there.
Colin Glassar
8 Posted 07/12/2023 at 06:36:56
I doubt he’ll ever be the player he was. Give him a run of five games to see if he still has it.
Derek Thomas
9 Posted 07/12/2023 at 06:47:53
It'll be like signing a new player... just how much of a percentage of a new player remains to be seen.

6 games eh; 3rd round, 4th round, 5th round 6th round, Semi and Final?

He deserves it, for fuck's sake, We deserve it — If only.

Lyndon Lloyd
10 Posted 07/12/2023 at 07:11:30
Just for clarification following Mark and Colin's comments, he can play 6 games. It's the 7th that would trigger the payment, unless we can renegotiate with Spurs but I imagine that would be difficult – redundant even – without Dele signing a new contract.
Dave Rooney
11 Posted 07/12/2023 at 07:30:33
If he can prove to Dyche he's physically and mentally ready, then it's up to Dyche. Personally I'd be quite excited to see him play just off or behind Calvert-Lewin, I think those two could potentially link up very well and offer an alternative to Doucoure at times.

Regards the payments, any surprise Spurs are suddenly interested in Ben Godfrey for January?

Danny O’Neill
12 Posted 07/12/2023 at 07:53:44
I hope he gets his love for the game back.

He is a talented footballer who lost his way. He's explained the background factors, so I don't need to. All I would say, aside from his personal life, it's a reminder of the expectation we put on young shoulders in the game.

Some can handle it, others can't.

I'm glad that the club are helping him rebuild his career.

If he can give me another half like he did against Palace, I'll take that.

Tony Everan
13 Posted 07/12/2023 at 07:57:08
Dave, 11, there is a strong possibility that there is something in that.

Godfrey goes to Spurs on loan for six months, whilst we get to use Dele as much as we want without triggering any fees. Could be a win win for both players and both clubs.

One thing that is pretty certain we will not be parting with £10m.

Mark Ryan
14 Posted 07/12/2023 at 08:05:38
I think he will regain some of that lost talent and will be capable of being a very good player for us. I think he knows he owes us and I hope his demons are behind him, for his sake
Jim Jennings
15 Posted 07/12/2023 at 08:12:56
Disappointing to hear Dele is back on the grass given his struggles with addiction but here’s hoping he gets the help he needs.
Joe Hurst
16 Posted 07/12/2023 at 08:14:07
Back on “the grass”?

The last thing we would need is the bizzies nicking him on his return to the team line-up.

Would he be doing renditions of “Easy Skanking”, or other Bob Marley hits?

Jerome Shields
17 Posted 07/12/2023 at 08:38:28
He is back from his Winter Dubai break. He never misses that every year.

The £10 million is the first payment of a eventual £30million transfer fee ,dependent on appearances.

Jerome Shields
18 Posted 07/12/2023 at 08:48:33
Additionally Delli Alli is on wages of £5.2 million per annun over his 3 year contract.
Robert Tressell
19 Posted 07/12/2023 at 08:56:07
It would interesting to see him in the u21s. Coleman, Godfrey and now Gomes have all appeared recently - and each put a shift in. The standard is miles off the Premier League, but it's more about fitness and attitude.
Kevin Prytherch
20 Posted 07/12/2023 at 09:01:05
Does anyone know if it’s 20 games, or 20 league games?

He was cup tied when we got him so wondering whether there was a stipulation.

Paul Hewitt
21 Posted 07/12/2023 at 09:28:14
If it is true that Spurs want Godfrey in January. Then surely a deal can be done where we don't pay anything for Deli.?
Brian Harrison
22 Posted 07/12/2023 at 09:57:08
Pity were skint as the best option for Everton was to do what they did with Gbmin and pay off what's left of his contract. He has played 13 times in nearly 20 months and earned £5.2m a year, just highlights our disastrous transfer policy under Moshiri. Am I really to believe that nobody at Everton had looked into why he wasnt playing for Spurs and when he did he was way off the pace, that nobody had heard about his addiction. Dyche has been giving regular updates on where he is on the route back to full fitness, but I haven't heard what the injury is that has kept him side-lined for months.
Dave Abrahams
23 Posted 07/12/2023 at 10:06:43
Brian (22), It’s too late to ask the man who negotiated the unbelievable deal we did in getting Dele, many fans questioned the signing because of Dele’s very poor performances over three years prior to him coming to Everton which you have highlighted but not the man who negotiated and signed off the deal, it wasn’t Moshiri in this case.
Barry Cowling
24 Posted 07/12/2023 at 10:07:27
I have a solution to this. If 777 takeover goes through then Dele signs to one of their other clubs then loaned straight back to us, with us paying his wages in full, problem solved and tight arse Levy gets what he deserves. This is of course reliant on Dele doing the business in his remaining 6 games with us.
Henrik Lyngsie
25 Posted 07/12/2023 at 10:12:19
Lyndon 10. Would you know what happens if we extend his contract beyond next summer. If he plays 6 games this season. We extend the contract and he plays the 7th in next season would we still have to pay the 10 million?
Kevin Prytherch
26 Posted 07/12/2023 at 10:31:45
Henrik 25 - what if we let him go on a free transfer, then sign him again a month later. Is he then a new signing or do the instalments still apply?

Probably not worth trying to be fair - we’d get docked another 10 points.

Pat Kelly
27 Posted 07/12/2023 at 11:09:28
He’ll be off to some other suckers on a free transfer as soon as he’s miked Everton dry.
Steve Griffiths
28 Posted 07/12/2023 at 11:33:21
Brian (22) read Lyndon’s update above re Deli’s injury & setback. It was all over Toffeweb & other Everton media outlets at the time? & as you say Dyce has given regular updates on numerous occasions already this season. However, as well as the well document injury, Deli has also suffered from mental health issues which he spoke candidly about in an interview with Gary Neville, that was well publicised also & for which he attributes to some of his addictions. To say you haven’t heard what the injury is, I find strange?
Peter Hodgson
29 Posted 07/12/2023 at 12:00:10
I really don't understand all the talk and speculation about him. Lets face it we (I say we but we all know who I mean, and it wasn't Moshiri) made a bad decision to bring him here from Spurs and when he failed to cut the mustard we farmed him out to Turkey where he managed to get an injury which has kept him out and he is only making his way back to fitness now.

And we are still talking about the number of games he can play before triggering a £10m fee with less than 6 months to go before he walks at the end of his contract after taking £5.2m in wages from us. Unbelievable.

Let's be clear about this. He has shown willing (and who wouldn't at £5.2m a year) to make the effort but has he shown Everton any thanks for what they are doing for him? Has he, before his injury requiring surgery, shown any signs of the superb footballer of yesterday? I'm not sure but I don't think so but who knows. It is a guessing game but can we afford to indulge ourselves in such a game?

Of course we can't, so what the hell are we doing continuing with this facade??

Christine Foster
30 Posted 07/12/2023 at 12:04:05
Somewhere in the back of my little shell like, I seem to remember reading about the spuds treatment / accounting practice with respect to Dele's not so "free transfer" in that they assigned income from Everton for the signing in their accounts? Meaning of course Everton would have to show it as a cost? I did wonder, as did the club I suspect on the implications of them doing so before any money had changed hands. In our books exactly how has Dele been accounted for, apart from his wages of course..
James Marshall
31 Posted 07/12/2023 at 12:05:10
Dele is quality. Best player at the club on paper. I'm eternally hopeful he'll play for us - I'm one of the few with a soft spot for the kid.

If he gets right and plays surely Godfrey for Dele, straight swap. Everyone wins.

Andy Crooks
32 Posted 07/12/2023 at 12:07:07
Great news for him and perhaps for Everton.
Paul Hewitt
33 Posted 07/12/2023 at 12:07:46
The lack of compassion on here is staggering. What he's been through as a child never ever leaves you, no matter what people on here think, believe me. He's finally come out and hopefully lifted some of the pain he's suffered. Then he gets and unfortunate injury that sets him back months. Come on guys, I'm convinced once he's fully fit and playing, he will start showing what an excellent footballer he still is
Christine Foster
34 Posted 07/12/2023 at 12:11:09
Compassion? Are there no workhouses? Are there no prisons? Bah..humbug..
Anybody would think Christmas was coming..
Alas your right though Paul... I for one wish him well..
Dale Self
35 Posted 07/12/2023 at 12:14:52
What we may feel about Dele has a considerable Everton filter. From his perspective this is an honest chance to turn it around. From our perspective it is a controllable risk. We even have some mild leverage to lower the cost. I would think betting against Thelwell and Dyche is not wise. They have better information, trust them.
Brian Harrison
36 Posted 07/12/2023 at 12:19:16
Steve 28

Just re read Lyndons piece, and as he states in the Spring he had a hip operation, which I was well aware of. Then in June he was the first through the door for pre season, so had recovered from his hip operation I presume. Then in early September Lyndon said Dele had a set back but doesnt mention what the injury was that caused the setback. So obviously I have missed the update as what the injury he picked up in September, so can you tell me what the injury is. As seeing he was never on the training ground at this time so I am puzzled to what injury he picked up.

James Marshall
37 Posted 07/12/2023 at 12:25:30
Dyche and the club clearly want at least 6 games out of him, and I'd suggest they want the player full time. Otherwise we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

A fit and happy Dele would be immense for Everton.

Ray Robinson
38 Posted 07/12/2023 at 12:31:47
First let me state that I wish Dele all the best. However, why are some people advocating a straight swap for Godfrey? We’re in dire financial straits. Why pass up on potentially £20m to save £10m? And even if we saved the full free for Dele in the event that he plays more than the handful of games, why risk £20m for a player on extremely high wages who may never get anywhere the heights that he previously reached? Smacks of chucking your last £100 on the roulette table to me. Then again, I never was much of a gambler.
Simon Jones
39 Posted 07/12/2023 at 12:40:57
Two things, I hope he never sees the negativity written about him, the other, I hope to see him in a blue shirt, absolutely tearing it up for us.

Take the money out of it, would you write what you do if he was on an annual salary of 30k and he was off work on long term sick?

James Marshall
40 Posted 07/12/2023 at 12:46:51
Ray @ 38

I'd take that gamble once Dele has played the 6 games for sure. If he can sneak them in before end of January, then I'd snap their hand off for Dele over Godders. He's a shocking excuse for a footballer and only made it to the Premier League because he has pace.

Godfrey has the footballing brain of a 7yr old.

Ray Robinson
41 Posted 07/12/2023 at 13:05:48
James, I can’t disagree with your assessment of Godfrey but, daft as it is, a side playing a high defensive line will probably pay £20m for him. If Dele were at his best, I’d of course be in favour of a straight swap but how are we going to find out?

There’s no way Dele will play 6 games before the January window is out unless he makes 6 cameos as sub. And if he does that, how can he demonstrate that he’s back to his best? How is a club that’s as skint as ours and which might have to sell again in January, going to afford to pass up £20m

Some gambles are worth risking. This one isn’t. I wish Dele well but I think it will be somewhere else.

Nottingham Forest buy everyone - maybe they’ll have a vacancy (heavy irony).

Niall McIlhone
42 Posted 07/12/2023 at 14:07:56
Regardless of the highly unusual and arrangements for the transfer of Dele to Everton, and setting aside all the issues to do with his being unavailable for nearly all of his time with us, I somehow just keep my focus on our manager, and trust in Dyche to work with the player as to what-if any-role he can fulfill.
In his early Spurs years Dele was regarded as being amongst the best attacking midfield players in Europe. That's a high bar. If he is rehabilitated-both mentally, and physically- he could be a considerable asset, perhaps off the bench in the no 10 role?
I also think Andre Gomes could still be very useful as cover in a CM role, whilst he does lack the pace and intensity that our manager prefers, he can actually pass a ball to a blue shirt . I hope Gomes has his "Indian Summer" in these last months of his contract.
Jake Lucas
43 Posted 07/12/2023 at 14:15:18
I think people are overcomplicating this. A swap deal with Godfrey would be silly.

We will never pay £10m after seeing 6 games for a player with minimal gametime over the last 12 months, who's best days were 4 years ago, who only has 6 months of his contract left, with no obligation to extend.

So, the conversation with Spurs is very simple:
'We all wanted it to work, it hasn't. We're not paying £10m at this point, so if it's non-negotiable, he'll rot in the reserves and you won't receive a penny (even if he puts in 6 MOTM performances...).

Renegotiate to £2.5-5m, and we'd be happy to play him in over 6 game (subject to performance). It gives him more of a chance to prove his worth to us, or potential to another club if we end up passing on him in the summer'

What would you rather, £0 or the chance to recoup at least £2.5m out of a player who has lost his way?

Nicolas Piñon
44 Posted 07/12/2023 at 14:25:35
hope he stays fit and makes the bench somehow someday
too much to ask?
Clive Rogers
45 Posted 07/12/2023 at 15:08:27
The big question is does he want it anymore? Personally I was disappointed last season when on an international break, instead of using the time to get fit, he was pictured in Milan with his model girlfriend and bags of designer wear. His head has been turned. He has lost the desire I feel.
Dave Abrahams
46 Posted 07/12/2023 at 15:17:03
Paul (33), I don’t think there has much lack of compassion towards Dele, He signed a 2.5 year deal with Everton which will cost Everton roughly £12-13 M in wages less the transfer loan fee and wages the Turkish club paid Everton.

He went to Turkey and let’s be honest flopped and the Turkish club had quite enough of him not to mention their fans.

Paul you say you are convinced once Dele is fit he will start showing what an excellent footballer he is, Paul would you convinced enough to take a £10M gamble on him doing that, come on mate that’s taking compassion to the extent Jesus had!

Other fans would swap Ben Godfrey for Dele free of charge even though we could possibly get £15- £20M for Ben who is in need of a bit of compassion himself after breaking his leg and is possibly still suffering from the effects of Covid.

Consider Dele’s past by all means but let’s be sensible about the affair.

Dave Lynch
47 Posted 07/12/2023 at 15:38:28
Spurs sniffing around Braithwaite its being reported.
Hmmmmm
Jay Harris
48 Posted 07/12/2023 at 15:51:55
For all intents and purposes Dele has been out of the Premier league for 4 or 5 years now.

I don't care how much training and fitness he has I doubt he will ever be the player he was.

We should have done proper due diligence before being fleeced by Levy who has saved millions in wages at our expense.

I feel for what Dele has been through especially his brutal treatment by Mourhino but at least he is getting 5m a year and driving his rolls royce every day while some other poor sods are struggling to eat.

Paul Hewitt
49 Posted 07/12/2023 at 16:00:31
Jay@48. Really, so years of abuse as a kid are forgotten because he earns £5 million a year?. Sometimes words fail me.
Ed Prytherch
50 Posted 07/12/2023 at 16:03:49
Dele has been through rehab and he may well be a different person now. I hope so.
Clive Rogers
51 Posted 07/12/2023 at 16:16:42
Dave, Spurs can have Braithwaite as long as we hold on to Branthwaite. Sorry.
Jay Harris
52 Posted 07/12/2023 at 16:17:35
Paul the point I was making obviously very badly is that while I sympathize with Dele there are millions of people worse off that do not have the buffer and privilege that he has.
Tom Bowers
53 Posted 07/12/2023 at 16:29:09
Sorry to say this but I don't hold out much hope for him becoming what he was when he started with Spurs.

Probably Everton will hope he shows his fitness for a later transfer of sorts but we know he has ability and one hopes he may be of use before the end of the seaon in some form or other.

Paul Hewitt
54 Posted 07/12/2023 at 16:32:06
Jay. You can earn £5 million a year or 25k a year, it doesn't matter. The mental scares he has won't go away just because of what he earns mate.
Dave Lynch
55 Posted 07/12/2023 at 16:37:34
Spell check Clive...🤣
John Hall
56 Posted 07/12/2023 at 16:55:37
Back on the grass? Is that 'smoking in the boys room'? ;)
James Marshall
57 Posted 07/12/2023 at 16:58:13
I don't understand why so many people think he's going to have lost all his ability - he's not Samson after a haircut, he's a footballer. A bloody good one at that - when he played against Palace he was the best player on the pitch so why shouldn't he regain his high standards in the future?

He's also only 27 so still has his peak years ahead of him. I would argue that the medical staff at Everton are doing their due diligence in getting him physically fit, and the managerial team in conjunction with the medical staff are doing theirs to get him mentally ready as well as up to speed on the playing front.

People are writing him off, or somehow blaming him for being mentally broken, and physically injured. Sympathy seems to go out the window purely on the basis of salaries people get. I don't care if you earn millions, or you're penniless, shit still scars human beings and fucks them up and injuries still stop you playing sport regardless of your bank balance.

John Hall
58 Posted 07/12/2023 at 16:59:16
Use him for 6 games, but choose them carefully
Frank Sheppard
59 Posted 07/12/2023 at 17:24:11
If ever a player had something to prove…….. it’s him….. let’s see if he buckles down and does his talking on the pitch.
Dave Abrahams
60 Posted 07/12/2023 at 17:31:31
James (57), You are basing Dele getting back to be the player he once was, five years ago, on the evidence of a forty five minute performance ignoring most of his many poor games before and since that Crystal Palace game. A genuine good luck to Dele and you never know but I doubt it very much.
Jamie Crowley
61 Posted 07/12/2023 at 17:56:57
Can't see him playing the 10 games with us, it'll be under that. We don't have the money to blow off ten million.

He's got such talent. You can just see it. Sublime touch, so good on a ball. Hope he can contribute.

Without him hustling that ball down in the corner, we go down. I'll never say a bad word about this guy, he helped us survive and dodge absolute ruin.

James @57-

You don't lose that ability, ever. You might be rusty, but with hard work and dedication that talent resurfaces. I haven't put on skates in like 8 years. I guarantee within 1 minute on the ice, if I laced them up today, I'd skate circles around 99% of other human beings. These "skills" are like riding a bike. It comes back to you very, very quickly in my opinion.

Dele's issue is age. As above, I'd be fine on skates in about a minute. But... I'm 54, not 18. There is natural decline quite obviously. But even with that I think Dele's talent would be obvious within minutes of any return he made.

Lyndon Lloyd
62 Posted 07/12/2023 at 18:04:10
Brian (36). I haven't seen any mention of what the injury set-back was, specifically. At a guess, it was an issue with the hip that required surgery but often, as we've seen with DCL and Gbamin, one injury can lead to a different one as the player tries to make his comeback.
David Bromwell
63 Posted 07/12/2023 at 18:14:46
This fellow has cost us a fortune in wages and treatment costs. So we need to limit any further expenditure and in return he needs to put in 5 or 6 star performances. But in our circumstances I don't think he can have a long term future with us, it's too much of a gamble.
Christine Foster
64 Posted 07/12/2023 at 18:16:08
It's not so long ago that Dele and Ross Barkley were competing for the same position in an England team. Both have suffered igmony and the ridicule of fans here and abroad, both left to pick up the pieces of what was, in both cases, stellar careers.
I watched the Luton game versus Arsenal at the weekend, Barkley was seriously in contention for man of the match and outshine Declan Rice. Can Dele do the same? Someone will give him the chance, like Barkley he may have lost his way but there is still a footballer in there.
Dave Cashen
65 Posted 07/12/2023 at 18:31:41
Agreed Christine.

Barkley was head and shoulders above the Arsenal midfield. He was also impressive against the shite.

Perhaps the penny has dropped and he realises he needs to get on with what's left of his career before it's all over.

He did look seriously good last week

Jim Lloyd
66 Posted 07/12/2023 at 23:26:57
Don't write Dele off yet, that's my view

Those who are inclined. to send him packing, I think are not giving us a chance, as well as Dele.
We have a number of games in which we can play him, if our management team think he's worth it.

If has got rid of his mental injuries, as well as his physical injuries, then we might have another top class player in our squad.

If our management team don't think he can make that journey back to first class football, they'll look after him and help him set his sights to a level, he could return to.

We're not likely to be able to buy players of quality, yet we might have one of our own.

I think those who say, "get shut!" are being hasty, to say the least.

Anthony Dwyer
67 Posted 08/12/2023 at 01:29:39
Waste of 100k a week imo, shift him as soon ad possible.
Also those who mention Barkley same applies, he's played half decent the odd game but we are I December, any footballer has had a decent game or two in 5 months.

If we want a wild card we need to pick up a footballer who wants to kick on with his career. Look at Milner for the shite (I no he's moved now) look at William at Fulham also, he's there best player and fit week in week out, Thiago Silva at Chelsea.

There are quality players out there, we just need to find one with the right mentality, and ability.

Phil Lewis
68 Posted 08/12/2023 at 02:38:37
Professional footballers have to be at peak strength in body and mind, in order to perform at the highest level. Dyche allowed DCL to completely mend for as long as it took. We are reaping the rewards now.
What's to say that employing the same strategy with Dele, won't pay the same dividends?
Never say never.
Mike Gaynes
69 Posted 08/12/2023 at 16:40:22
Christine #64, that's a great point. So much talent there. It doesn't go away. If Barkley can resurrect his career at 30, why can't Dele do it at 27?
Ray Jacques
70 Posted 08/12/2023 at 16:45:36
I've given up on this kid. Will be very happy to be proved wrong.
Mal van Schaick
71 Posted 10/12/2023 at 08:51:52
Spurs won't budge on a revised deal with Everton over the player. That may take the incentive of progress away from Dele.

I can see the PFA being involved at some stage regarding the player's well-being, in view of the fact he may be trapped in a contractual nightmare.

Brian Williams
72 Posted 10/12/2023 at 08:59:22
Spurs have budged!
Sam Hoare
73 Posted 11/12/2023 at 11:40:28
I think some people on here may be guilty of over-rating talent alone. But Dyche is not one of those people and knows that talent means nothing by itself if not allied with hard work and desire, especially in one of his teams.

It's been a long time since Alli has shown that kind of work ethic and desire. Is it possible that he could? Yes. Does that mean it is likely that he will? No.

If he were prepared to stay and play for a £30k basic wage that doubles if he is starting every week, then perhaps that would be a discussion worth having. But paying him anywhere near his current wage for his current output is obviously untenable.

I would honestly prefer Josh Brownhill in the squad currently (and think there's a chance we might go for him in January as his contract is almost up and we're short of bodies in the middle, especially once Gana heads off).

Charles Brewer
74 Posted 11/12/2023 at 09:38:35
I would keep this man as far away from the squad as can be arranged without an agreement with Elon Musk. His attitude is poisonous and Dyche appears to have done a brilliant job on repairing the dressing room after the past decade of conflict and misery.

The idea that sitting around whining gets you a much bigger pay packet than getting stuck in and potentially injured every week is not healthy for the rest of the squad.

The faster this remnant of the worst of the recent past is shovelled out of the door, the better.

Rob Dolby
75 Posted 12/12/2023 at 09:56:59
I don't think many players played well under Lampard, maybe Gordon?

I would be interested to see how Dyche deploys him and how he can motivate him.

For whatever reason he lost the desire to play football. He probably will never make the level he was at Spurs but we are in a position to view at first hand if he is worth the gamble.

His 45 min cameo v Palace saved the club 100s of millions. There is no doubt he has ability, can Dyche do what Mourinho couldn't?

Christine Foster
76 Posted 14/12/2023 at 04:22:29
You know what, Charles? In normal days, when we had a number of quality players, I would have agreed with you. Now I think you're wrong, for all the right reasons.

We are desperate for a creative midfielder, a No 10, an experienced, skilful player we no longer have in our team. No one close in midfield, even Onana (who I think stands a good chance of being sold for £70M in January to meet PSR) doesn't create enough.

So… if he actually gets anywhere close to what he was, it will still be a huge improvement on what we have. For a song, it isn't much of a risk.

Steve Brown
77 Posted 14/12/2023 at 04:44:26
Charles @ 74, you should get a job as a sports psychologist.

Suicidal because you were abused? Get a fookin grip lad.

Mike Gaynes
78 Posted 14/12/2023 at 04:54:14
Charles #74,

I've seen some crap posts here over the years, but I can't think of a more comprehensive load of crap than that one. Amazing how much you piled into just three odiferous paragraphs.

Christine, he's wrong for all the wrong reasons. He hasn't the slightest idea what the guy's attitude is, and to put himself in Dyche's position as if he knows what he's talking about is just meltdown level of dense. Please don't sign on to any part of that.

Derek Thomas
79 Posted 14/12/2023 at 06:54:12
Charles @ 74;

A tad harsh there mate. Sometimes it's not what you say (or maybe mean) it's the way you say it. See Sam's post @ 73.

Everybody sometimes needs a 2nd chance, or at least the opportunity to take one if it's offered. Then it's up to them what they do with it.

It's not Dele's fault that, as a businessman, Levy is the sort that would turn fluffy kittens inside out for slippers.

Christine Foster
80 Posted 14/12/2023 at 06:54:59
Mike, in no way do I buy into what Charles said, or sign on to agreeing with him.

From my perspective, it's a case of in a normal (forgotten) world where Everton FC have a good to top-notch team of high-quality players, Dele would be surplus to requirements, not worth the risk.

But we are not in that position, we have no top-notch players and Charles's comments, irrespective of our club's standing – but merely from a compassionate human position – are just dreadful and I roundly agree with you.

Ray Robinson
81 Posted 14/12/2023 at 09:02:26
I'm not in any way condoning what Charles said but, in the past under Kenwright, we were accused of being over-sentimental and constantly giving former players second chances. It's what made Kenwright such a well respected man – but it's no way to run a football club.

Of course, Dele deserves a second chance. I wish him all the luck in the world – but I think his future may lie elsewhere. We simply haven't got the money to take the risk.

If, as Christine points out, there is a possibility of having to sell someone like Onana to comply with P&S rules, how on earth is it sensible to gamble on Dele being able to regain his former form?

He doesn't have enough games left (6 or 7?) to prove he's worth shelling out £10M for – with a further substantial sum due a short distance down the line.

Mike Price
82 Posted 14/12/2023 at 09:34:52
No way we'll pay a penny more than his wages. Even if Spurs reduced the payment to £3 million that's another £500k per game on top of his wages.

Based on what we've seen over the last 4 years, he won't be fit to play a full game and it's highly unlikely he would play 6 games even if there was no trigger payment.

It's more likely they'll see if they can get him fit and focused, with the chance of the odd cameo before the end of the season and then consider giving him a much-reduced contract when he's completely free.

Christine Foster
83 Posted 14/12/2023 at 11:07:36
Mike #82,

That's exactly where I am as well... on a short-term contract as well. I didn't like him when he was good but business is business.

Let's face it, if – and that is still a big 'if' – he actually has turned a corner, then we have a grateful, talented and experienced, young, international. We have paid his wages for his recovery so he does owe us...


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