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The Chief Football Officer of the Premier League has admitted that the current state of Video Assistant Refereeing is "nowhere near good enough" and has vowed to coordinate with football's international governing bodies to eventually improve the experience for match-going fans.

Though Tony Scholes insists that data suggests match officials are now getting more decisions right than when the technology was first introduced to England's top flight, he acknowledges that VAR reviews are taking too long and the process leaves supporters inside the stadium in the dark.

Scholes says that both Fifa and the International FA Board (Ifab), which implements the game's rules on a global basis, have been reluctant to implement Rugby- and NFL-style audio communication from referees during games and have concerns over showing the same video replays that VAR officials are using to adjudicate on incidents on screens inside stadiums for fear of inciting problematic behaviour.

However, he says that the League hopes to eventually get to a situation where fans watching the game in person are made fully aware of the reasons behind a given VAR decision while suggesting that better training will improve other aspects of what has become a highly controversial part of the game.

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“Clearly everything in the world of VAR is not perfect,” Scholes said of VAR as it's currently used, despite the fact that he argued accuracy was now up to 96%. “We’re aware of that and we know we have got work to do. Where the VAR experience is poor is the in-stadium experience for the supporter.

“It’s nowhere near good enough. We know it’s not. It affects supporters’ enjoyment of the game and we know it needs to change.

"The reviews are taking too long and it’s affecting the flow of the game and we’re extremely aware of that and the need to improve that speed, whilst always maintaining the accuracy,. By training development, we want  [the VARs] to make a decision on the facts they see but not having to double or triple check.

“[Ifab] are very clear at the moment that we cannot use the audio and we cannot play the audio,” Scholes explained with regard to opening the communication up to supporters inside the ground. “My personal view is we’re on a journey, and that will come and we’ll get to a point where both the video and the audio is played live and then played afterwards to explain the decision.

"But we will continue to lobby them to get to a place where VAR is open, transparent and informative to supporters and all stakeholders as it is possible to do. One development that we are expected to come in, of course, is that the referee will announce their decision post VAR review to the crowd on the pitchside.”

There has been talk of the Premier League introducing the semi-automated offside technology that has been used at the World Cup and in the Champions League but Scholes said they were yet to be convinced of its accuracy and effectiveness.

"First of all, we don’t believe that will increase the accuracy of decision-making, he said while indicating that the League is still testing “a couple of systems” and that any move towards semi-automated offside is unlikely to come before the start of the 2024-25 season.

“We want to be extremely certain that it will improve the situation and not detract from it in any manner,” he said. 

 

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Mike Dolan
1 Posted 09/02/2024 at 03:12:24
I think that to call VAR 96% correct is absolutely delusional. Releasing such an absurd number simply proves to me at least that Premier League’s corrupt and totally our of touch management don’t even have one iota of a clue of what this electronic God that they worship is actually doing. VAR is robbing almost every game that I watch of its natural rhythm and of all spontaneity. It is stealing the moment from all of us. We are now controlled by yet another layer of PGMOL slime.

Thank you Lyndon for keeping us Evertonians from afar in the picture with your remarkably informative website. Also a huge shout out for the ToffeeWeb podcast which is a fantastic lifeline for at least this otherwise dispossessed Evertonian lost in the deepest Hudson Vally N.Y.

Brian Cleveland
2 Posted 09/02/2024 at 03:49:48
VAR fails in only one aspect. The fact that it exists. Bin the absolute piece of shite that intervenes only to ensure the "correct" outcome when the on field ref has failed to follow the script and needs a teleprompter.

Give us back our game and our enjoyment of it. Spontaneity is everything and we've been completely robbed of it.

I hate it with a passion. Ruining football almost as much as the PL itself.

Mark Murphy
3 Posted 09/02/2024 at 06:54:07
Ha, Brian that reminds me of my wife’s view of me, that I only have two faults:
Everything I say and everything I do!
I agree with you though. Even as someone who still bears the trauma of that Welsh cnuts decision in the 77 semi, I prefer the flawed refs to the match fixing enabler that is VAR.
Pete Neilson
4 Posted 09/02/2024 at 07:55:19
57 correct VAR interventions this season and 20 incorrect VAR calls and it’s 96 per cent accurate! Yeah, right.

As comedian/statistician Andy Zaltzman said “Statistics are like a ventriloquist’s dummy. Shove your hand far enough up them, and you can make them say whatever you like. Although only children and idiots will take any notice”.

Bin it, it’s killing the game. Decisions are still as subjective as ever.

Jerome Shields
5 Posted 09/02/2024 at 09:29:44
Just PR without a Process being attempted.
Anthony Dove
6 Posted 09/02/2024 at 09:42:42
Brian@2 Agree with every word. The fact that a game is
now refereed by people hundreds of miles away is bad enough. But unfortunately more bad news is expected
today on the introduction of a blue card and a sin bin. Another nail in the game’s coffin. Great news for VAR
lovers though, and the Premier League and broadcasters
of course revel in the controversy it causes.
I have yet to speak to any one who watches the game that doesn’t want VAR abolished.
Eric Myles
7 Posted 09/02/2024 at 09:50:37
"The reviews are taking too long and it’s affecting the flow of the game and we’re extremely aware of that and the need to improve that speed, whilst always maintaining the accuracy,. By training development, we want  [the VARs] to make a decision on the facts they see but not having to double or triple check."

The intrinsic problem isn't the length of time that the VAR review takes, but that the VARs make the WRONG decisions based on the "facts they see" even though they double or triple check them.

And that's clear to everyone except the EPL and PGMOL.

Paul Cherrington
8 Posted 09/02/2024 at 10:04:04
If the Chief Football Officer of the Premier League is now admitting VAR is terrible and ruining the game, why the hell is it still being used every week?!!!

It literally makes no sense to say something is not working but then leave it to fail and affect results each week. But then the Premier League and sense have long since parted ways as we know.

Never wanted VAR and still don't - was always a disaster waiting to happen. Get rid asap. It's still a ref making a subjective decision based on what he sees - doesn't matter whether thats on the pitch or in a little portacabin packed with TV screens miles away. Might as well let the ref on the pitch make the call, as you still get just as much controversy with VAR and replays to make decisions from.

Two people could watch 50 slow motion replays of an on-filed incident and still have different takes on it. That's why VAR doesn't work for anything that isn't a clear Yes/No call (such as was the ball over the line).

Tony Abrahams
9 Posted 09/02/2024 at 10:14:24
Scrolling through another article that is more about lip service, than actually trying to improve things, imo, my thoughts are that if you really want consistency and transparency, then start miking up these refs, so everyone can hear what is being said, and how they are making their decisions.

The refs are getting protected by stupid controversial shows like ref-watch, and people like Dermot Gallagher, are making a fortune, for giving an “opinion” that counts as much as an everyday supporter, but nothing more.

I think it’s time for them to stop talking about transparency, and to start giving transparency instead.

Dave Abrahams
10 Posted 09/02/2024 at 10:20:05
Most fans think VAR has brought arguments and controversy to the game more than any improvement in getting decisions correct.

What is Tony Scholes background in relation to football,is he similar to Mr. Masters of the premier league who doesn’t appear to have any previous background in football before he was handed the job after three people turned the position down.

The richest league in the world run by people who don’t seem to understand football.

Dennis Stevens
11 Posted 09/02/2024 at 10:27:12
My personal preference would be to use goal line technology only during the match, so that the officials know whether or not the ball has crossed the goal line. It's then down to the officials to award the goal or not, if they determine that an offence has occurred.

However, I think that VAR technology may still be beneficial to use retrospectively to punish players who may have "gotten away with it" during the match. That would mean that they may trick the officials on the day, but there could still be a day of reckoning to follow.

John Raftery
12 Posted 09/02/2024 at 10:40:53
I’m in the ‘bin it’ party and have been since it was introduced. Would any match going supporter be disappointed if VAR was ditched tomorrow? Unless decisions can be instant, through the use of technology on matters of fact, it will never be satisfactory in a sport as fast moving as football. Trying to deploy it on matters of opinion is a fool’s errand.

Unfortunately VAR was designed for TV. It creates talking points, keeps people glued to screens and extends post match analysis and debate. That keeps viewers and sponsors interested and at the end of the day that’s the bottom line for a business devoted to maximising revenue. I fear we will never be rid of it. F#ck VAR.

Danny O’Neill
13 Posted 09/02/2024 at 10:46:41
Nail on head Dave.

VAR isn't the issue. It will never be 100% but what ever will be?

But it can see what see what all of us see be that at the stadium or in the comfort of our living room watching Sky.

I keep banging on about it. The issue is the people making decisions, who, as you say, don't seem to understand football.

Get it on the screens and make them explain their decisions.

Interview them after matches. Make them accountable.

Likewise Masters and his cronies in their cigar smoking London Gentleman's cigar smoking club patting themselves in self-praise.

I really want him to sit next to me at a match.

Apologies. We're approaching match day and I'm getting emotive.

Alan J Thompson
14 Posted 09/02/2024 at 10:53:33
And one day they will improve officiating so much that they might have an "Assistant Referee" on stand by for the World Cup, that is unless they have some sort of a watch that indicates when the ball wholly crosses the side line. Next they'll be experimenting with drones, the aerial type.
Tony Abrahams
15 Posted 09/02/2024 at 11:00:33
Dead interesting final paragraph that John. I know you still travel anywhere and everywhere to watch Everton, which is something I know longer do, so it would be interesting to know if you still love watching football in general, or your only real interest is Everton?

I love Everton, and I have always loved football, but I rarely watch it on the television anymore, and after giving Goodison a wide-berth this season, until the death of a man, who I believe was instrumental in ripping the soul out of our club, I was genuinely enjoying watching Morecombe, playing in league two, and wasn’t even missing watching Everton.

The premier league, has been marketed in a fantastic way, but the game has become far to cynical and sinister imo, and sometimes it genuinely makes me feel like i’m watching a cheat’s paradise, and wonder how many so called legacy fans, have similar feelings to myself?

In spite of this, I am still enjoying going to Goodison, but I did leave the ground last week feeling very frustrated, whilst going over in my head, how it took over three minutes to give us our second equalizer? FUCKING WHY!???

Andy Crooks
16 Posted 09/02/2024 at 11:31:42
Dennis @11, that is, for me, the way to go. Good post.
Martin Farrington
17 Posted 09/02/2024 at 11:49:05
The problem is NOT VAR.
It is those using it.
EPL referees are dreadful at best.
They should not be allowed anywhere near VAR.
Refereeing standards have long been in decline.
To expect a referee who makes poor calls week in and week out on the field, to suddenly get things correct sitting in a cupboard in his fetish wear whilst judging his bezzie mate is ludicrous and why VAR is being lambasted.
Get rid of this "You gotta have a Ref" crap.
You don't.
Turn the system over to an independent ex pros collective or a completely neutral organisation.
Jeez. All you gotta do is know some rules.
Our referees have shown repeatedly that they do not.
Christine Foster
18 Posted 09/02/2024 at 12:00:48
Tony 15# good post, sadly a significant amount of enjoyment has gone for me, Everton run through every part of me, always have, always will. I have no choice but to watch on tv, but my very being craves to be there. When Goodison is gone something will die within me. BMD as wonderful as it may be, will have no affiliation to me, only the knowledge that it is the home of Everton. My beautiful memories no more, I have laughed, cried, stood on the terraces on my wedding day, the very highs and lows of life are there for me.
The sad thing for me is the outside chance the club as I knew it may not exist on my return. I have shouted against the wind too long to no avail. This battle for survival has nothing to do with football ot fans love of the game. It's business, uncontrolled private enterprise. Greed. Of course it always had elements of it, but the passion is being killed, decisions are being made not for the good of the game but the protection and wealth of a few clubs, a business and a media giant.
Kenwright and Moshiri may well have been incompetent, but the game is still stuffed. They only hastened our demise for which they should both be held in contempt.
Mike Hayes
19 Posted 09/02/2024 at 12:03:21
As if football needs anything else to finally prove it has no integrity in comes the blue card another weapon to mainly beat Everton with FFS 🤷😡
Derek Wadeson
20 Posted 09/02/2024 at 12:16:05
How many people like me inside Goodison last Saturday felt that the VAR delay for our second goal cost us two points. Goodison was bouncing in a mixture of joy and anger that had been transmitted to the players and we were going for a third and a win until that endless stoppage which gave the referee the excuse to blow for full time and took the sting out of the atmosphere.

The same happened in the first half with our first goal as well and yet the VAR decision for the first Spurs goal was checked and complete by the time their players had got back to the half way line.

Tom Bowers
21 Posted 09/02/2024 at 12:18:25
Sadly human error happens everywhere no matter what technology is invented.

If you have the replay every which way why does the VAR official refer it back to the referee on the field ??? It's ridiculous and just serves as a total waste of time.

When Beto was impeded twice against Spurs last week the referee wasn't interested, why, because he is not keyed in to the kind of tricks professional players use. In each case the defender clearly played the man and not the ball. Had they been ground level challenges then they may have been penalized, who knows.

My point is that many referees are not trained properly on how the game is played and they still miss a lot.

Why doesn't the league kick out this stupid offside rule in which the lines persons don't flag immediately. Another inane rule.

Danny O’Neill
22 Posted 09/02/2024 at 12:30:18
I actually would like the introduction of the sin bin.

I'd rather a player get's time to cool off rather than risk being booked or sent off.

Obviously depending on the severity of the offence.

I'm not sure we need another card. Just send the player to the dugout for 10 minutes.

Pete Neilson
23 Posted 09/02/2024 at 13:17:20
Another change being trialled at U23 level across Europe is kick ins to replace the throw in. I read Arsene Wenger is pushing this one.

I thought this might benefit us as every throw we take seems to end up back with Pickford. Then I remembered the quality of our passing.

Bill Gall
24 Posted 09/02/2024 at 14:03:57
What is wrong with the laws of the game? Are they not supposed to cover every game played? Whether it is schoolboys or Premier League, they all follow the same rules, so why should the Premier League be the only ones that are enforced to a degree by technology?

It is all down to money where the tail is wagging the dog. If it is to help the referees, why not have two referees, one in each half?

We have goal-line technology, that cleared 1 major problem and the only other thing that should be covered is the severity of the fouls.

The biggest controversy at the moment is the offside, other people like ex-referees may be more knowledgeable, but wasn't the Law that there had to be two players, including the keeper ahead of or level with the attacker for him not to be offside, not the size of his boot or any other similar parts of his anatomy.

The VAR is there to help the money people, and where there is money, there is corruption. It is not wrong to have technology, it is wrong to have it at a level where the human eye can't follow it.

Offside is offside no matter what level of football you watch, deciding it at just 1 level is against the principles of the game, especially if it is being used by someone who is not even at the game.

John Raftery
25 Posted 09/02/2024 at 14:22:02
Hi Tony (15) in answer to your question, at Premier League level my only interest is Everton. If someone offered me a free ticket, or even paid me, I would not be interested in attending any Premier League match not involving Everton. Very rarely do I watch other Premier League clubs on TV unless it is of direct interest to us such as Newcastle v Leicester towards the end of last season.

I do however attend matches in the EFL and below on the blank weekends when there is no Everton match. My last one was Harrogate v Swindon in November. It was a 1-1 draw, very entertaining and all the better for being free of VAR. The officials, including Sian Massey-Ellis on the line, were clearly on top of the game and appeared confident in their decision making.

I contend VAR has made referees at the so-called elite level worse. I don’t blame them. It’s like having someone at work looking over your shoulder watching your every move. It undermines self-confidence.

So many decisions are matters of judgement in which one person’s opinion may well differ from another’s. We see this in much post-match analysis in which former players offer quite different perspectives on incidents. Chasing 100% accuracy is a waste of energy and time.

Peter Mills
26 Posted 09/02/2024 at 14:27:58
Who decided the world needed someone whose title is “Chief Football Officer” ?
Kevin Edward
27 Posted 09/02/2024 at 14:28:15
Oh dear, another first for Everton coming, four players in the sin bin so match abandoned.
Is it April fools day already?
It’s not a sport anymore, it’s just ‘entertainment’, without the ‘entertainment’ unless you follow the shitty six.
They should re-brand it the English Shitty Six League (ESSL).
What next? Extra points for winning penalties and getting opposition players sent off?

Ian Burns
28 Posted 09/02/2024 at 14:40:19
Bill 24 and John 25 - perfect posts and reflects the vast majority of supporters’ views. The problem is that nobody cares what supporters think, they exist only to provide background noise.

I don’t care if the opponent player’s knob is offside or not, if the linesman can’t see it then so be it, get on with the ******* game.

I hate VAR with a passion! Don’t get me started on the blue card!!! They will probably have the offending player sit on the naughty step for 10 mins like my mother used to do!! Rant over.

Barry Cowling
29 Posted 09/02/2024 at 15:10:44
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If they cant make a decision in 3 seconds then it is not clear and obvious, so you stick with referees original decision. That is how I believe it should be. When you watch a championship match or other league, its like a breath of fresh air even though the referees are worse, you know if its a goal or not instantly
Tony Abrahams
30 Posted 09/02/2024 at 17:36:14
Thanks John, I have very fond memories of Harrogate Town, because last season my stepson was told he was going to be playing in the EFL cup for Morecombe, and then once the group games had finished he was going to be sent out on loan, to a non-league team.

There was traffic jams everywhere but luckily for us we got there just on time, to see him score in the second minute, and after putting in a very good performance (even for a critic liking me) and turned out to be a massive turning point in his career so far.

He has just signed for Millwall, on a very good contract last week, and even though we had took him to football for years, it was a very nice feeling watching him come of age, that night at Harrogate Town.

Christine, get home girl, and when you drive over that little brow on Boundary street, heading towards the dock road, I’m absolutely certain you will fall in love with the new Goodison, especially because it’s near your old neighborhood, and even more so when you realize that the location, is going to help turn us back into the City’s number one team🤞

John Raftery
31 Posted 09/02/2024 at 20:00:40
Peter (26) Quite. There's probably a deputy or assistant to support him as well.

Tony (30) I wish your lad all the luck in the world. Millwall is a tough place for any opposition but the home fans stick with their team through thick and thin.

Shane Corcoran
32 Posted 09/02/2024 at 20:18:14
I think the blue card is a good idea. They brought it in in Gaelic football (black card). Ten minutes in the bin for an intentional foul as the ref sees it. It's ridiculous that a player can get a yellow for mistiming a tackle by a small fraction of a second and get the same punishment for intentionally stopping an attack.

The VAR is also fine with me. Some strange decisions, or corruption when applied to only Everton, but moreso the vagueness of the rules is a bigger problem in my opinion.

Tony Abrahams
33 Posted 09/02/2024 at 20:31:02
He had a couple of other choices, John, so he definitely hasn't taken what might be considered an easier pathway. He has also thankfully become a different player since he began playing real men's football, and working hard now seems to come a lot more naturally to him, which is hopefully something that will endear him to the Millwall crowd🤞

I will definitely miss going to Morecambe, because it was hassle-free and only used to take me around an hour to get there, and there also seems to be a lot more honesty in the lower leagues.

The referees still get it wrong, and still seem to favour the bigger clubs, but there doesn't seem to be so much of an agenda, and it's also very refreshing watching players behaving with a lot more honesty.

I have obviously watched a lot of Premier League games, and quite a few games in Leagues One and Two over the last 18 months so, if he takes his chance, I will be looking forward to watching a lot of Championship football.

Tony Abrahams
34 Posted 09/02/2024 at 20:39:38
I agree with you about the blue card, Shane, but honestly think you are just trying to be controversial if you are genuinely happy with the VAR, mate?

I watched a little clip of Mathew Le Tisier saying how happy he was when the VAR was introduced, because he believed it would help the smaller clubs get some key decisions, citing his unhappy experiences of having stonewall penalties denied at the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd.

He then went on to say, instead of it getting better, it's actually got considerably worse, giving some good examples of why he thinks things haven't improved, whilst speaking full of common-sense, imo.


Anthony Dove
35 Posted 09/02/2024 at 20:42:01
Shane @32.

I really hope you are in a big minority here as, otherwise, the game I love is dead in the water.

Mal van Schaick
36 Posted 09/02/2024 at 20:50:51
My apprehension regarding the introduction of a blue card, is that the team that is down to 10 men for 10 minutes will inevitably throw all 10 men (the reduced team) behind the ball and defend.

How can this improve the spectacle of a decent football game. The current system of a player receiving a yellow card that leaves them on tenterhooks, is a sufficient deterrent to continue foul play.

For me, there is now too much interference in the rules in the Premier League's quest to tamper with the ‘beautiful game‘ and brings about more controversy than it solves rule breaches.

Kieran Kinsella
37 Posted 09/02/2024 at 21:08:05
Mal,

The other thing with the blue card is it will be used for dissent and times when players confront referees. Well, these type of situations, particularly involving Man Utd and Liverpool, tend to involve several people berating, pushing and shoving the ref. So will they all get a blue card?

And how does that work if say 6 get blue cards at once – can the game continue or do they forfeit because they have too few players on the field?

In reality, we know what will happen. Nothing in these situations with these teams. Instead, Pickford will probably be the first person to get a blue card for time-wasting. But there again, what happens if your goalie is blue-carded?

Does an outfield player wear the goalie shirt for 10 minutes? Can you sub on a goalie for an outfielder? Then, if you do that, you're stuck with two goalies once Pickford comes back from the sin bin.

How about instead of jacking around with the rules they actually just firmly establish rules and keep them the same and hire and fire referees and VARs based on their correct enforcement of the rules?

All these annual tweaks in interpretation just muddy the waters to where none of the fans or players understand the rules so referees get away with having one rule for Salah and Bruno Fernandes and a different rule for everyone else.

Tony Abrahams
38 Posted 09/02/2024 at 21:16:44
Mal & Kieran, both make very good points, that definitely make an argument for leaving the game the way it currently is, with regards to implementing a sin bin.

Whatever happens, it's the vagueness of those rules, which Shane mentioned, that need to become a lot clearer; otherwise, people are still going to be feeling like there is a certain level of corruption within the modern game.

Derek Thomas
39 Posted 09/02/2024 at 21:25:24
The blue card is a good idea, just like the VAR was... on paper, in theory, etc.

I said ages ago they'd mess the VAR up (and they did). I was even lightly admonished by one of our esteemed transatlantic correspondents to - get with the (modern 21st Century) program.

How many times have they tweaked it to fix it… two? … three? … more? Is it any better? No, it's worse.

They'll fuck this blue card thing up too.

Rob Halligan
40 Posted 09/02/2024 at 21:26:54
Kieran # 37…

You beat me to it, as I was going to ask what would happen if a goalkeeper got a blue card?

My own opinion would be that it probably won't apply to goalkeepers, it will simply be a red card for them. But then say you've made all five subs, and your goalkeeper is then sent off, and an outfield player has to go in goal, and he is sin-binned for 10 minutes, or as I've already said, would he then be exempt from a blue card because he's now in goal?

Kieran Kinsella
41 Posted 09/02/2024 at 21:37:16
Rob

Another question is how to they time the 10 minutes. Is it just literally you're off for 10? In which case if your rivals delay free kicks, goal kicks, corners, feign injury and bring on subs, actual playing time might just be a few minutes while you're absent. On the other hand, if you rely on refs to add extra time for subs, goals, time wasting, then we get into the realm of 10 minutes being 15 or 20 minutes, although for time wasting more of your mates maybe be joining you in the sin bin.

Tony Abrahams
42 Posted 09/02/2024 at 21:51:06
More vagueness?
Rob Halligan
43 Posted 09/02/2024 at 21:57:42
Kieran, what happens if one team has say, three or four players in the sin bin, is the game abandoned?
Kieran Kinsella
44 Posted 09/02/2024 at 22:10:09
Rob

It just sounds like a recipe for disaster

Deborah Maria
45 Posted 09/02/2024 at 22:31:19
So does a blue card plus a yellow card equal a red card, does two blue cards equal a red card. In my opinion before VAR the ref made mistakes but out of the 23 people on the pitch the ref was the one to make the least mistakes.
Mal van Schaick
46 Posted 09/02/2024 at 23:01:23
Kieran#37. Absolutely well put. The never ending possibilities and conundrums of outcomes of blue cards would be the ruination of the game.

What next? Blue cards for supporters in the crowd, for singing, chanting, cheering, booing, and clapping.

We have reached the point of ridiculousness. Remember who started it!

Shane Corcoran
47 Posted 10/02/2024 at 09:07:53
Sorry Tony, my wording was misleading.

I meant I’m happy with the idea of VAR but for the reasons I’ve stated, it’s not working well enough.

Anthony, I’m not sure what you’re referring to.

Loads of good questions on the blue card. Again, it’s a good idea but definitely open to creating other unintended problems.

Alan J Thompson
48 Posted 10/02/2024 at 10:11:49
Whatever happened to the belief that foul play resulted in a Free Kick or inside the box a penalty, persistent foul play was worthy of a booking and foul play that deliberately injured an opponent was worth a sending off?
Oh yeah, it's all about goals, except when waiting for a corner to be taken.

Sorry, the thought of them improving anything makes me laugh

Bill Gall
49 Posted 11/02/2024 at 22:54:51
A blue card is a terrible idea the game is supposed to be played with 11 men on each team. the only way that will change unless a player is sent off, and that is usually correct because he usually has endangered another player. What are we trying to do make it into a no contact sport ?.
Can you imagine some of these referees being given another excuse for poor decisions, and do 2 blue equal I yellow, and why do we have to copy other sports.?
How about making the goal 2ft wider think of all the extra goals scored that will give high scoring games for TV.viewers that's if you can get it in your location.
We now have a situation where 2 referees who have had the same training on the rules can have 2 different interpretations of the same rule, 1 actually being present when the infraction of the rule occurred and another sitting in an chair in front of a screen.who it appears has the final say.
Isn't it about time that these people sitting on a committee making these decisions, consulted with the only ones that matter, the supporters, who are leaving watching the game in droves.
Changing rules should effect all teams under the FA banner not just the Premier League or the top 6..
John Raftery
50 Posted 12/02/2024 at 11:12:09
It's the threat of a blue card which might make it work as a deterrent in stopping dissent. If it needs to be used frequently, it obviously isn't working as a deterrent.

If five or six players are involved, they should all be sent off and the result awarded to their opponents. That should soon put a stop to such behaviour.

For me, the issue of dissent is an easy one to deal with. It is however one which the sport has never really got to grips with at any level.

Dave Lynch
51 Posted 12/02/2024 at 11:38:26
That's ridiculous, though, John @50.

If it all kicks off in the first 20 minutes and let's say for argument's sake 5 players get carded and the game is awarded to the opposition, then what about the paying fans who've shelled out a decent amount of money to watch a game of football?

John Raftery
52 Posted 12/02/2024 at 12:27:00
Dave (51),

I suggest a new rule in which the players will be fined the amount required to reimburse fans for the price of their ticket plus £1 for every mile they live from Goodison Park to cover travelling expenses. That should focus minds. And keep lawyers and accountants busy.

Danny O’Neill
53 Posted 12/02/2024 at 12:40:16
John, that's £500 for a home match for me!!
Danny O’Neill
54 Posted 12/02/2024 at 12:52:37
I appreciate there's a lot of difference of opinion.

VAR should be a solution. 100%? Of course not.

Fix the rules. Fix the raised nature towards certain clubs. Get competent officials who understand football. And get the video assistants out of Stockley Park and in the stadiums.

In other news, I'm going to see my brother-in-law in hospital the next time I'm up. By then he will have had open heart surgery.

He has just turned down my offer to bring him an Everton t-shirt, but he does support them!

Pete Neilson
55 Posted 12/02/2024 at 13:06:09
Blue cards will simply add another subjective bone of contention and its implementation is bound to be crap based on the work of the muppets who gave us VAR.

Maybe we could have VAR interventions for blue cards, maybe a game will soon be two hours long but with plenty of debating points for the pundits and more time for advert breaks to sell us shit we don't need.

Maybe these terrible ideas all form part of the re-packaging of football as it becomes a streaming entertainment rather than a visceral sport to be experienced. Chasing the money as always, nothing to do with the game.

John McFarlane Snr
56 Posted 12/02/2024 at 14:33:21
Hi all, I was against VAR from the beginning, and I consider the only improvements are the "goal-line technology" and the "shaving cream" used by the referee at free-kicks.

Whatever was the reason for the alteration of the offside law? Players A & B could be standing shoulder to shoulder, but because A takes size 9s and B takes size 8s, A is ruled offside.

When it comes to VAR, I would prefer to see a referee make a mistake at Goodison Park, rather than two or three VAR officials 200 miles away, poring for 3 or 4 minutes to make the very same mistake.

Peter Hodgson
57 Posted 12/02/2024 at 18:45:51
How about, instead of the Blue Card nonsense, the existing rules are used and implemented? A novel idea, I know, but worth consideration.

I thought that one of the rules that was already there but now not ever used was that if a player 'persistently is guilty of fouling an opponent' he gets a yellow card. When did you last see the Man Utd 39 get a Yellow for this? There are others that this applies to. Too numerous to mention.

Dissent. Yellow. Time-wasting (except Pickford who frequently gets one) Yellow. I could go on but I won't. Just get on and use the rules that are already there. You don't need new ones.


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