Our current manager’s contract is up at the end of the season. Taking into account the dire circumstances Sean Dyche has had to put up with, he has surely earned a new contract. But taking into account the often dire football, question marks remain.

It seems logical to expect that the football will improve if we can provide Thelwell with a competitive budget (and by that, I mean competing with the likes of Brentford, Bournemouth and Nottingham Forest) to supply Dyche with better players.  And indeed we do have little spells of decent football to watch when everyone is fit.

But (and I am often a defender of Dyche) we’re not suddenly going to start playing champagne football with Dyche at the helm. Whilst the defence is generally very well organised (obviously undermined by the injury crisis this season), there are no clear patterns of play around the attack and even set plays are unimaginative.  Hence, we score fewer goals than we should do.

So who realistically might take over from Sean Dyche?  I’m not talking coaches like Thomas Tuchel here – I’m talking about coaches who would see Everton as a genuinely attractive next step. Having had a little think about this, there are no brilliant candidates out there so far as I can see – many of them are just the current flavour of the month to replace previous flavour of the month types like Graham Potter who ended up flattering to deceive.

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I do wonder therefore whether two more seasons of stability under Dyche might be a better bet before we really try to kick on under a new coach.  But if we decide to roll the dice, then Kieran McKenna looks the best fit out of the realistically available options.

Marco Silva

Perhaps not so surprisingly, the coach who seems to have earned a step up over the past few years is Marco Silva at Fulham. But I won’t bother singing his praises. The time has gone. As it happens, Man Utd could do much, much worse – if they decide to part company with Ten Hag.

David Moyes

I think everyone probably knows enough about Moyes.

I suspect the football would be well organised and conservative, with spells of decent play if he can sort out our woeful flanks. That will come down to recruitment more than anything – the same thing holding Dyche back.

He’s more of an emergency option than the future. Not for me.

Eddie Howe 

He’s done well at Newcastle Utd – but has now been rumbled as a motivator more than a proper coach. Reasonably likely to be sacked, so he may become available.

More or less the same standard as Dyche but seen as more credible due to nice speaking voice and sensible haircut. We’d possibly be more attacking, but less well-organised in defence.  He’s a “right place at the right time” sort of a manager and, let’s be honest, we are still miles away from being “the right place” for anyone.

He might be better placed to inherit the best England squad we’ve possibly ever had, than a still crap Everton squad. Not for me.

Thomas Frank 

A very good manager – but one who has been given the space and time to develop a style and squad to fit.  He also has an excellent relationship with the visionary owner at Brentford.

I think fans who think he’d do well with us are working on the assumption that Brentford (a small club) must have overperformed and we (a big club) must have underperformed.  However, that’s not the case.  

He’s been given an awful lot more money than Dyche.  Brentford have spent more on their squad than we have and – make no mistake – they have a better squad than us. Yet they still finished lower than us (by 8 points) last season.

They are also still heavily reliant on long servers like Pinnock, Henry, Janelt, Norgaard, Jensen, Mbeumo and Wissa who are familiar with his tactics and well-placed to deliver on them.  Newer and often expensive signings haven’t really moved them on.  That is a bit of a concern.

It would interesting to see what he could do with us – but it seems likely he’d need time, and an even bigger budget than he has been given at Brentford to take us forward. 

Kieran McKenna

McKenna is a talented coach and, at 38 years old, probably sees himself as a future Man Utd manager (after a stint in their backroom) – but it’s too big a jump from Ipswich Town.  We would be a big step up for him.  And a good step up too.

You can see how he’s managed to get Ipswich through the divisions of the Football League but it’s also fair to say that they have stumbled badly in the Premier League.  That’s after a big spending summer too – with over £100M spent on essentially a whole new first XI – with Muric, O’Shea, Greaves, Johnson, Ogbene, Cajuste, Phillips, Clarke, Smodzics, Delap, Hutchison coming to the club.  Some of these are very good players – certainly capable of stepping into our first XI.

Defensively they’ve looked a mess, with the sort of suicidal tactics Vincent Kompany deployed from goal-kicks and possession in defence for Burnley last season.  Indeed, there was talk on the (often mindless) TalkSport that Ipswich might fail to land a win all season. But they’ve also been weirdly impressive at times despite the string of crap results (still without a win).

How would McKenna cope at Everton? It would be a culture shift back to where we were with Roberto Martinez. That failed because, like Silva did a few years later, Martinez lost his nerve and forgot how to defend. That wouldn’t have been so bad if both coaches were supported by bigger budgets and better recruitment but at Everton there was no squad depth to mask the coach’s crisis of confidence and other shortcomings.

So I think McKenna would live or die to some extent again on the sort of quality Thelwell could provide.  At the moment, I don’t think he’d be knocked out with the squad he’d inherit – and would need a lot of time and patience (and transfer kitty) to move us on.

I think he’d be a good appointment in time, but we could remain bottom half for a season or two before developing into a much better team.  A relegation scare or two along the way too quite possibly.

Regis le Bris 

The 48-year-old ex-Lorient coach in France has done really well with Sunderland so far. 

They have also been carefully assembling a good group of players too – with the likes of Hume, Cirkin, Neil, Rigg, Roberts, Mundle and Bellingham all looking like they could potentially step up into the Premier League – with Rigg and Bellingham, the two teenage Number 8s, potentially being seriously big talents.

At Lorient, he also brought through a lot of good players – including Moffi (now at Nice), Ouattara (now at Bournemouth), and Lo Fee (now at Roma). This probably comes from him spending the large part of his coaching career with youth set-ups.

The football would definitely be more “front foot” than Dyche but would Le Bris cope at a much, much bigger club? Personally, I doubt it.

Carlos Corberan 

41-year-old Spaniard who has got a middling West Brom squad to 4th in the Championship after spells at Huddersfield and Olympiakos.  Notably an assistant to Bielsa at Leeds.

His attacking form is driven by goals from Josh Maja (who has knocked about for a while threatening to deceive) and Tom Fellows, the “new Anthony Gordon” who we have come very, very close to signing over the past year or so.

This isn’t exactly stellar stuff from Corberan but he did inherit a mess and has made West Brom much better. The football is not classic Bielsa either (in both good and bad ways). This isn’t a brilliant resume though and I can’t see us really kicking on under him.

Will Still

31-year-old Will Still is the manager of Lens in France after a successful period with Reims.  He is English but was born and raised in Belgium.

He did a great job at Reims, especially given his age – turning Arsenal’s Balogun into a striker who actually scores goals.  But at Lens he’s done okay without doing anything particularly notable so far.  He’s more or less getting them to where they should be in Ligue 1 but not exactly punching above their weight.

If he wasn’t (sort of) English, I don’t think there’d be much of a fanfare about him in England.  He needs to deliver more in France before he’s worth a shot.

Eden Terzic 

He’ll get mentioned but,  after taking Dortmund to a Champions League Final, he might well already be out of our league. Strong rumours that he’s in line to take over at Man Utd.

Ruben Amorim 

Top of the table with Sporting Lisbon after 8 wins in 8 this season for the 39-year-old. He’s clearly a really excellent coach and done some hard graft at smaller clubs before getting the gig at Sporting.  Will be sought after by Champions League clubs and must have been high on the list for Liverpool before they appointed Arne Slot. 

He would be a really good appointment but I suspect he is not realistic.  Again, he’ll be in the frame for the Man Utd job when (rather than if?) Ten Hag is sacked.

Dino Topmoller 

The 43-year-old has taken Frankfurt to 3rd in the Bundesliga after 4 wins from their opening 6 games. He’s done well.

Worth noting that Frankfurt have had one of the best recruitment and development strategies in the Bundesliga over recent seasons – probably only surpassed by Stuttgart when you take account of budget.  Stuttgart have an excellent coach by the way in 42-year-old Sebastien Hoeness but I suspect he’s now already out of our league.

So Topmoller isn’t generating this relative success against the odds – he’s doing it with the benefit of a really well-organised club like Brighton or Brentford in the Premier League.  But I'm not convinced he would come to Everton and really do anything.

Frank Schmidt

The 50-year-old trained banker has steered tiny Heidenheim into the Bundesliga all the way from Tier 4 and kept them there.  They are currently 9th with 3 wins from 6 this season – and that after losing their best players, Beste and Dincki, over summer.

He's obviously got a lot about him as a coach to achieve this but he’s also a one-club man, having played for Heidenheim before moving into management. Seems a bit unlikely that he’d up sticks to Everton and replicate success which has taken him 15 years or so at Heidenheim.

Marcel Rapp

Kiel is a tiny club in German football – based on the sticky-out bit that looks like it should be part of Denmark. Rapp is a 45-year-old coach who has spent most of his career in youth coaching, graduating from the very impressive set-up at billionaire-backed village club Hoffenheim.

In a short space of time, he’s taken Kiel from nowhere into the top-flight and is getting results – including a very impressive 2-2 draw against Champions Leverkusen. 

They do this through very, very well-structured balance between attack and defence – with fluid formations for different phases of play, aggressive pressing, and direct play when circumstances allow.

However, they are still winless in 6 and 2nd bottom. He’d be a fascinating choice for us – but relatively high risk.  Might be a better fit for an ambitious Championship club.


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Andy Crooks
1 Posted 13/10/2024 at 15:11:43
Great piece, as usual, Robert. When we paid Moyes more than any of our players, I used to ask, is he the best our money can buy?

Of course he wasn't but we stuck with him. We should have stuck with Silva but it was touch and go.

Right now, we have a coach who doesn't see us as a stepping stone. Every coach on your list, bar Moyes, will see us that way. So it's Moyes, Dyche or a hired hand on the way up.

We went all in on Dyche, we just need to watch the cards unfold and get lucky.

Fred Quick
2 Posted 13/10/2024 at 15:35:00
The so-called in-the-know experts are continuing to put Jose Mourinho's name in the frame to be the next Everton manager following Dyche's removal, either at the end of Dyche's contract or before.

I personally can't see that happening, for oh so many reasons, not least that Jose can be such a divisive figure and could cause more issues than he might be able to solve. I would have loved him at Goodison a decade or more earlier than today, when he was hungrier and when he did seem to have the Midas touch.

As always whomever pays the piper calls the tune, so we'll have to wait and see what transpires in the coming months.

Mihir Ambardekar
3 Posted 13/10/2024 at 16:02:30
Next managerial appointment that we make will be very critical. We need to get the balance right with better faster players and manager who is capable of utilizing the squad well. We need a step up from tactically naive Dyche.

I don't think managers like Marco Silva, Eddie Howe or Frank can take us to next level. They are ok managers.

I would like us to go for Amorim or Terzic. But we need to hire good players and sell players that don't fit the system they play.

Mark Murphy
4 Posted 13/10/2024 at 16:05:48
“Indeed, there was talk on the (often mindless) TalkSport that Ipswich might fail to land a win all season. “
Checks fixtures for next PL round.
Shit!!! 🫣
Danny O'Neill
5 Posted 13/10/2024 at 16:25:43
We should have stuck with Silva, Andy.

But that wasn't (already talking past tense), Moshiri's way.

Robert Tressell
6 Posted 13/10/2024 at 16:56:51
It absolutely won't be Mourinho. Not a chance. And that's a good thing too.
Mark Murphy
7 Posted 13/10/2024 at 16:59:23
Seriously though Robert, that's a good article and I'm intrigued by some of your nominees. In particular Le Bris and Armorim.

Thanks for posting – let's hope our new owners make the right choice. Personally, I hope they don't go for Mourinho or Moyes.

Mike Gaynes
8 Posted 13/10/2024 at 17:02:34
Andy, Danny...

Silva was awful. We sometimes showed a nice style under him, but he couldn't be bothered to coach the fundamentals. We gave up five goals a game on set-pieces.

Okay, I'm exaggerating a little, but we led the league in that grim category two seasons in a row under that clown. Lord only knows how many points we left in the trash from our inability to defend a simple corner kick.

I had never been so happy to see a manager get sacked, although the later beheading of Benitez turned out to be even more satisfying.

Silva learned from his mistakes at Everton -- I believe he even said so in an interview -- and returned as a much better manager for Fulham. But he absolutely sucked for us.

Steve Brown
9 Posted 13/10/2024 at 17:19:50
Silva had a lower win ratio than Allardyce, his defensive zonal marking left us leaking set-piece goals and we almost always lost when we went behind.

His high-line defence against Liverpool when we lost 5-2 showed he had lost the plot.

The puzzle is how he got the job in the first place.

Mike Gaynes
10 Posted 13/10/2024 at 17:31:40
Robert, for what it's worth, my first choice would be Bosz at PSV, and nobody else is a close second. They play with style and they win.
Danny O'Neill
11 Posted 13/10/2024 at 17:49:23
I guess my point is, like others in recent years, he wasn't given time.

Howard Kendall would have been sacked before going on to be our most successful manager.

Mike Gaynes
14 Posted 13/10/2024 at 18:10:55
Danny #11, Silva got 60 games, but the real problem was we were visibly deteriorating at the end of his tenure. And there was no sign that he could reverse the trend.

Plus we had the opportunity to bring in one of the best managers who ever lived, and what joyous year and a half he produced.

So zero regrets for me.

Simon Harrison
15 Posted 13/10/2024 at 18:53:11
Hey Robert, what a great post. Refreshing too, from sites like GOT that just list names without any sort of mini-bio/CV.

Firstly, like you commented at [6] Mourinho (for better or worse) will never be recruited again by TFG after his comments and actions following his dismissal from AS Roma.

FWIW, in a dream scenario I'll put down my top 3 managerial selections from fave to 3rd fave;

#1 Ruben Amorim: And not as far fetched as you might believe.

He might enjoy cutting his teeth in the EPL with a 'lesser light' initially, especially if he is able to be backed in the Transfer Market. Personally, I think he'd be a great appointment, with a better squad, the ability to attract better (Europa league+ player levels) and could solely focus on coaching. For which we need a very good DoF and/or Sporting Director.

#2 Sebastien Hoeness: Although not on your list, he is an ex Bayern coaching protégé. He has been successful everywhere he has been, despite a bumpy 22/23 at Stuttgart; and that is at age-group level as well with Bayern 'B'.

It was also reported that he turned down both Man Utd (Completely understandable), and Bayern 'A' (probably because he'd have to work with Ralf Rangnick, who was lined up at the time to be the new Sporting Director at Bayern)

#3 Carlos Corberán: As you say he is doing well at WBA over the last two seasons. He made the playoffs last season (5th, from 22nd when he took over) despite the absolute crazy-show going on at the club. I think he does have a couple of tactical weaknesses, but is a very solid candidate for stepping up a level unless of course he brings WBA up this season.

I can't see McKenna wanting to come, as there are too many other clubs monitoring him.

However, personally and purely from a stability point of view, whilst the Club management and administration structures are changed with the take over; I think Dyche will be offered a one-year extension with an option based on performance.

Thanks again for the thread Robert, it really is a very good read.

Cheers and good wishes! 👍💙

James Lawton
16 Posted 13/10/2024 at 19:09:52
Great article from you once again, Robert. Many Thanks.
Robert Tressell
17 Posted 13/10/2024 at 20:00:08
Thanks All. In all honesty, Mike, I'd not really considered Bosz because he's 60 and seemed to flounder outside of the Netherlands (although that might be more my perception than fact).

Hoeness would be great, Simon, but that's what probably puts him out of reach. He's taken Stuttgart (albeit with the help of excellent recruitment) into the Champions League and probably feels entitled to pick up a Champions League level job somewhere.

Andy Crooks
18 Posted 13/10/2024 at 20:27:17
Mike G,

Ancelotti, James and then Covid. Did I dream that?

Hindsight is strange, I can now recall arguing with Steve Ferns that Silva should go.

John Raftery
19 Posted 13/10/2024 at 21:13:40
We were sinking without trace under Silva who, at that point in his career, was out of his depth. It is all very well appointing an up-and-coming manager providing everything is in place to give him a better-than-evens chance of succeeding.

At present, very little is in place at our club to enable a manager to succeed. He is up against the odds from the moment he walks in. As Robert suggests, it will take shrewd leadership, sensible use of money, time and patience to rebuild the club to compete in the top half of the table.

McKenna shows promise; in the Championship his team played exciting football with swift counterattacking moves. But let's see how he handles the rest of this season in the Premier League before we hoist his name to the top of our wish lists or indeed write him off.

Tony Abrahams
20 Posted 13/10/2024 at 21:43:45
Silva, will have definitely learned from his Everton experience Mike, but after finishing his first season with eight clean sheets, out of his final eleven games, he surely deserved better than what Marcel Brands delivered that summer.

He was out of his depth by the end of his tenure John R, but I think this was partly because Brands, never replaced the pace Zouma, and he was privately fuming and possibly began to sulk, instead of just getting on with the job?

This is my opinion anyway although I think his overall experience at Everton, will have stood him in good stead for the future? Maybe I’m wrong but that’s how I’ve always seen it.

Paul Hewitt
21 Posted 13/10/2024 at 21:46:47
A few rumours tonight Moyes is likely to takeover till the end of the season.
Tony Abrahams
22 Posted 13/10/2024 at 21:49:44
Sharpen the knives for the gunfights.
Denis Richardson
23 Posted 13/10/2024 at 21:57:21
Sorry but Silva was crap so hopefully not him. Can't see him leaving Fulham in any case. Moyes can also do one. If Dyche is a dinosaur, what does that make Moyes? Please just no. Remembering Neville and Heitinga in midfield gives me the heebie-jeebies.

The manager should be anyone willing to play football that looks to score goals rather than defend first and try and nick one. Admittedly that involves getting better players.

Personally I hope the team continues to pick up points and this is a topic for Easter time not now. If Dyche gets money in January, then you'd think he'll get an extension if we do okay.

Brendan McLaughlin
24 Posted 13/10/2024 at 22:02:13
Paul #21

"The return of the magnificent seventh"

Only happens in the movies...unfortunately.

Danny O'Neill
25 Posted 13/10/2024 at 22:14:43
Most of you know my views.

We are Everton. Cradle to grave.

We will come good again Keep believing. It keeps me going.

Andy Crooks
26 Posted 13/10/2024 at 23:02:04
After my post @ 18, I spoke to Steve Ferns. I think that disillusioned would describe his thoughts!!
Brendan McLaughlin
27 Posted 13/10/2024 at 23:08:53
Andy #26

With Everton now or the Silva going thing?

David Nicholls
28 Posted 13/10/2024 at 23:14:39
I’m surprised Iraola hasn’t been mentioned. We could realistically get him, he’s impressed with Bournemouth and he’s from the Basque region which seems to be a bonus…
Andrew James
29 Posted 13/10/2024 at 23:58:58
Silva was let down by recruitment as he lost Gueye and we brought in Delph and Gbamin, neither of whom filled the gap.

The purchase of Moise Kean was a total failure.

He showed moments of real potential with us and changed the way we played unlike many of our recent coaches - Roberto, Sam, Dyche, Koeman - yet the removal of Brands around that era was no coincidence.

I don't think he'd come back but, if he did, we could do a lot worse.

The Moyes idea seems desperate to me given he's been unemployed for so long and the sword of damocles has been over Dyche for the best part of a year.

Si Cooper
30 Posted 13/10/2024 at 00:16:38
‘Taking into account the dire circumstances Sean Dyche has had to put up with, he has surely earned a new contract.’
Not necessarily, if we assume that he is well rewarded regardless and that progressing the squad further is not simply a continuation of what has been tried so far, but I’d hope he gets to see out his contract if we are doing okay when the takeover is completed and that would be enough for him to keep his career options open.
Before wondering about the next manager I’d be keen to see what changes there will be, if any, for DoF. If we assume Dan Friedkin will be relying on experts in every role then it follows his appointment for DoF will likely have a big input on next manager having first delivered an up to date review of the players / prime targets in the immediate future.
Then I’d hope the DoF would give their assessment of best options for the new manager to start us off on that upward curve towards our shiny new future in our shiny new stadium.
Mike Gaynes
31 Posted 14/10/2024 at 01:34:41
Tony and Andrew, certainly our recruiting let Silva down, no question. But recruiting doesn't excuse the inability to defend a corner kick -- or his absolute refusal to change his zonal marking system.

And since Fulham don't use such a system much, I think one can safely assume Silva learned his lesson... from getting sacked.

And we got to enjoy an Ancelotti team for a year and a half, so win-win.

Paul Ferry
32 Posted 14/10/2024 at 06:22:01
Thanks, as ever, Robert.

MG (8, 31), as one of the sharpest footy minds on these pages, your frozen attitudes towards Silva are interesting.

Silva is not a ‘clown’ Mike. Nor was he ‘awful’ with us. And he did not ‘absolutely suck for us’. Silva is a better all-round manager now than the day he left us. You’ve said this twice on this thread MG: ‘And since Fulham don't use such a system [zonal] much, I think one can safely assume Silva learned his lesson..’ - ‘Silva learned from his mistakes at Everton -- and returned as a much better manager for Fulham’.

While with us Silva was badly let down by recruitment, not least at the back – and eight clean sheets in his final eleven games of his first season rather suggests that Silva was not the complete failure in defence that MG paints him to be, and then, of course, Zouma went back home and was not replaced.

I’m not being revisionist. I’m simply saying that MG’s views of Silva are somewhat extreme and surprisingly frozen given his own recognition of Silva’s post-us improvements and learning.

A more defensively imaginative and sound Silva with the right coaches around him – Fulham have conceded 8 in 7 so far this season but conceded at a higher rate last season. – is by no means the worst prospect to replace Dyche with his luxurious thick hair and Latin dark looks to boot - Marco not Sean.

Paul Ferry
33 Posted 14/10/2024 at 07:07:18
The issue, needless to say - so Mike G can breathe a sigh of relief if he ever needed to - is that there is no way on Sheed's earth that Marco would come back to us and I, for one, don't blame him.

He was treated unforgivably shabbily by the impresario and his lap-dog crew.

And, as big a pull as our magnificent dock will be, there is no finer walk in the PL than from the tube and alehouse to Craven Cottage (sorry Dock Road).


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