Another draw sees Everton extend unbeaten run

As he can go on a free, whereas, hopefully Alcaraz is part of our future. All will be revealed soon!

If we were home to Wolves – I'd say he definitely should've be playing. But away – I can see why he's starting…

Back to their own clubs this summer then.

That half just kind of summed up where we are. There's a real lack of quality but we can still attempt to offer some threat. Beto probably had the chance of the half but, again, lack of technique stands out.

For the first time under Moyes we actually look a bit short of a plan. The direct through ball to Beto isn't working and while the higher press is yielding good positions we're not really good enough to turn them into chances.

Stick or twist for Moyes. We can't play into Doucoure or Beto but they're keeping Wolves honest on the ball and there's always a chance one slips through the back line. Charly will give us a different option to play through if we want it.

We had the usual kick off back to Pickford who hits it long toward most of our players out wide right. One day we'll surprise everybody by playing it to somebody who has snuck up wide left.

We seemed to have worked on a different corner than long to Tarkowski and Beto just needed a touch to open the scoring but he didn't seem to have switched on just yet. We didn't seem to have any pattern or plan to our play and just as I was thinking it was because Harrison and Lindstrom weren't getting involved when one finds the other to score between the legs of two defenders.

Thinking that 1-0 up would be a good position at halftime we gave away a soft goal where nobody seemed interested in tackling or clearing the ball and Moyes needs to find some midfield creativity and more urgency generally.

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Close game this one COYB

That's the last 4 one-on-ones missed.

How they stayed on for the full match is beyond me. 🤔

Another promising performance by Alcaraz. Nothing else worth writing about, well nothing good anyway; stick to enjoying that point.

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I am sure the Manager will let them know his feelings. Improvement when Charly came on and we could have stolen it.

I can't see Lindstrom staying beyond his loan, he will need to improve dramatically but he seems to offer very little so far. That said, there were other poor performances out there tonight, far too many.

It looked like we came to defend the point and that's what happened, we have to find more creativity than shown today in what is probably our worst performance since Moyes return, we looked almost like a bunch of strangers to each other.

Disappointing.

Awful game with some awful players in a blue shirt.

The Gana/Garner partnership is terrific (and Gana is a robot).

I'm piling on the pilings on, but Doucoure is an empty space on the pitch.

Against Palace he got a goal and an assist and was outstanding and has been rewarded since with not being picked.

Am I missing something?

Them 4 he mentioned are poor players, yes Beto has had a spell but he's a very limited player.

Going by the rumours Moyes is letting Harrison and Lindstrum leave and rightly so they offer absolutely zilch, yes I know Harrison notched tonight but not before time.

But a point is a point considering it was a poor performance so I'll take that all day, 8 unbeaten and 8 successive games we've scored that wouldn't have happened under you know who.

There is a clause in the loan contract that means if he starts a certain number of games we have to buy him. We might want to delay that.

We may not be certain about wanting to buy him. No idea but I think that is why he is only coming in off the bench as they do not count.

He was the only player to retain the ball today and string some moves together. I thought with Ramadan he would have rested Gueye and Doucoure today.

Very disappointed with how scrappy we were today and their centre-backs had Beto in their pockets.

Let's hope for much better against West Ham.

We can thank him for that and use his improved stats to sell him on asap.

I can't even name the Wolves players who were better in the same situations as they were and look where Wolves are. We're half a team doing okay. Alcararaz, Ndiaye, O'Brien, Branthwaite, Iroegbunam, Garner, Mykolenko, Pickford and, imo, Calvert-Lewin should be the core of this team going forward with interim places for Tarkowski, Gana and McNeil to fill the ranks.

We need a right-back and right-mid asap.

Maybe Lindstrom doesn't belong on the wing, but we can't afford a luxury bit part player...and I'm afraid Harrison just doesn't belong here..

Get off Dom's wang, for fuck's sake… he stayed fit under Dyche because he was playing at 75% so as not to get injured. Moyes runs centre-forwards into the ground and you have to work your bollocks off to play up front in a Moyes team.

It's no surprise that, when Moyes came in and instantly asked Dom to do more, he only lasted around 3-4 matches before breaking down.

Dom isn't fit enough for a Moyes team, or any Premier League team, tbh. Maybe Ipswich etc…. And the offsides, don't even talk to me about the offsides!

Win at home and pick up points on the road is all one can really ask of a team. We are ahead of schedule and all is looking up.

Boom Jarrad for £70-80M, slide in Jake, get a right-back, left-back, and two centre-forwards. Jordan might go for big money too. It's all just a matter of how we spend it and who decides.

We need to strengthen with better quality; there is a core to add to, but there's an awful lot of improvement to be had.

The ball was never held up the pitch tonight, Beto and Doucoure simply can't do that. And creativity from wide was non-existent again for me. We're probably getting the best out of what we've got. But what we've got can certainly be a lot better.

Not being opportunistically negative, I'm delighted we've gotten to 33 points so quickly, just being realistic as to where we really are.

O'Brien himself stated that there were more facets to his game than defending. That has become apparent in the way he gets forward and controls the ball really well. That diving header was definitely instinctive and is a huge asset for any defender.

As soon as we are safe, I would like to see Doucouré benched and Alcaraz utilised in tandem with Beto. Ultimately, I would like to see Alcaraz as part of a three across the front, with Ndiaye and A N Other. If he had come on after twenty minutes from the start, when Doucoure became a phantom, he could well have got MotM!

As for Lindstrøm, he has become a cardboard cutout of the player we were supposed to get... just like Harrison! Thankfully, they are just loanees and can be sent back undamaged!

He's done great job, got good results; he's not quite beyond criticism, though. That Brexit comment is a beaut, by the way, proper embarrassing.

Who's bashing Moyes? It was an average performance, but we carved out another point and should be good now.

Do we want Dyche back? No.

Baby steps it is then.

We didn't play great but still get a point deservedly. Well done, lads and Moyesy.

It's time Alcaraz starts a game. We know what the others can do and we are more or less safe.

Lindstrom and Harrison are more or less picking themselves due to lack of competition in the squad. I think both are doing okay, it's not like they have overlapping full-backs to link up with. Both need to step up over the last 10 games or they will be sent back to their clubs.

Beto had a poor game, he should have squared the ball back to Alcaraz for a tap in. He got muscled off the ball too easily.

Another point closer to safety though I don't think the current bottom 3 will get to 30 points.

Hammers next week is a mid-table 6-pointer.

Gana my MotM for his breaking up of play and general energy in the middle.

I see the Moyes appointment in a similar vein. It split opinion at the time, fine and understandable, all views are welcome, but the decision was made and we should all get behind it.

I would rather talk about our future, improving our club than continually harping back to his appointment. Some can't let it go, except Andy limited on this thread, but earlier threads are full of it.

Moyes is doing pretty well thus far, I'd agree with some: he may not be the longer-term solution. We'll see. I'd just rather focus on the here and now than keep going backwards, that was my point.

No problem with others disagreeing, that's what makes the debate, all entitled to our opinion aren't we? My main point was that this remains an ordinary squad, with significant limitations, particularly offensively.

The coaches at Everton really need to take him to one side and have him at least practice with left-footed shots.

He also missed a sitter from 6 yards because he wouldn't let the ball come on to his left for a tap in. Yes, he's been scoring but he should be getting more.

Moyes has quite a job on his hands to keep the performance levels up. This lot have operated under extreme pressure and it would be natural to take the foot off the gas a bit.

They gave it a go but Beto and Doucoure together aren't conducive to playing any kind of joined up attacking football. The effort was good and I'm not even concerned at Beto's one on one... good run, decent effort, keeper had to make a save. It's the ability on the ball that is so bad that it's sometimes comical. And the first half chance that required a small amount of technique to flick the ball goalwards. But I won't criticise him - he's there for effort, runs behind, and because we don't have an alternative. That's the sum total of his selection criteria. There's no point in moaning about anything else he can't do.

I'm surprised Chermiti hasn't come off the bench late in the last couple of games to give Beto a bit of a blow. Lad is working hard and late in games looks to be struggling.

Charly looks a certain signing. Lindstrom and Harrison not so much. I thought Jake again stood out. You get a real sense he can do more, but there's something confidence inspiring about a player who doesn't look likely to try something stupid.

Gana was again constantly in the action all over the pitch. Mind you, I've no idea how he came out without a booking - the number of free kicks he gave away might be some kind of record.

All up. Some of our decent players were decent and some of our poor players were poor. We gave a decent account of ourselves in exchange for a decent point that maintains our good recent record.

Nothing to get too excited about either way, but that's light years ahead of where we were a couple of months ago.

Sat 15 Mar – West Ham United (h)
Wed 2 Apr – Liverpool (a)
Sat 5 Apr – Arsenal (h)
Sat 12 Apr – Nottingham Forest (a)
Sat 19 Apr – Manchester City (h)
Sat 26 Apr – Chelsea (a)
Sat 3 May – Ipswich Town (h)
Sat 10 May – Fulham (a)
Sun 18 May – Southampton (h)
Sun 25 May – Newcastle United (a)

We are on 33 points; now, even with a very difficult set of fixtures in April, I think 36 will see us safe. We could take our foot off the gas by beating West Ham next week, what a luxury.

Beto should have had two, that one in front of goal where he just needed something on it and missed it as is flashed past him to the keeper, and the telegraphed side foot collected by their goalie.

Really hoping he rediscovers his shooting boots pronto.

Hammers' bubble needs popping and we owee the shite at our old ground, big time.

Maybe Chermiti is fit then, but won't be match fit will he.

I hope an extra practice match is played between Hammers and the shite, to get the players needing minutes, minutes. Also keep the lads tuned up and competitive rather than 2 and a half weeks with no game at all.

Unless they will play first teamers in the second test game at BMD as that is down as Under-21 friendly on 23 March, so ideally placed.

The opposition for that game is yet to be announced isn't it?

IMO, the draw was a fair result.

Rebuild needed in the same.

And it seems it will be multi-tasking Moyesy making all the decisions!

Beto should have got something on that first chance and once again for the second chance I think there was a pass on to Alcaraz instead of taking the shot himself.

Despite their involvement in the goal, I don’t think Harrison or Lindstrom will be with us next season. Neither of them appear strong enough or canny enough for the premier league.

One of the commentators stated that Perriera has a 54% win ration over his career 😳. I think Wolves have gotten themselves a very good manager and have some very good players so will do much better next season.

All in all I think we were lucky to get a point out of that game but I’d rather have that than the months we spent getting nothing out of similar games.

It was tough to find many positives today, especially when you realize how few of the starting XI you'd actually want on the pitch starting for us next season. Even Gana and Branthwaite were a bit responsible for the goal we gave away.

Once again, Jake was in good form. Alcaraz showed what he could do and will be a mighty fine find if and when we keep him.

Harrison actually showed his worth with the goal and what should've been an assist to Beto, but we know he generally comes up short.

Not much else to say about our play today. I, too, was surprised we didn't bring on Chermiti for 20 minutes, and as my kid said to me about 20 minutes in, we sure do miss Ndiaye.

Let's just hope we step it up against West Ham to get our mojo back. Eight unbeaten is impressive, but would be nice to get 3 points and stop coughing up leads.

You could probably afford one of them in your team but, with all four, the ball just spends too little time in our attacking third.

There are 4 or 5 players in the team that just aren't good enough.

What do you really think you will achieve with what's available right now?

It wasn't a good performance at all but we got out of another away game unscathed.

The loss of Ndiaye in particular has been a galling one and, the sooner he's back and gives us another great option alongside Charly, the better.

Harrison and Lindstrom were just not there, even though the former did score! Doucoure had a chance but that was it. Beto just looked off... control was awful, energy levels looked low. So, all-in-all a point was worth it.

The Wolves centre-back pairing didn't give Beto a look-in apart from the brilliant run by Alcaraz setting him up for a one-on-one which... ah well.

But Charly looks a real find. He has to start the next one. Frustrating performance, but controlled, and we did enough to earn the point.

He might as well have run up to Sa beforehand and said "I'm planning to put it to your right." Amateur hour.

And let's not forget minute 12:21 when Norberto Bercique Gomes Betuncal looked woeful fucking up that brilliant ball from Harrison. (And there were the two goalmouth opportunities before his first woeful attempt to run round the keeper straight into a defender v Brentford which according to the corrector-in-chief was a 'fine' save.)

That all said, I bet he bags 2 or 3 against the Hammers.

The big fella has had his limitations exposed recently. That will happen in the Premier League and yes he possibly should have scored a brace yesterday... But he is not hiding. He is still showing and still fighting. If he keeps doing that, he will get more goals this season.

Moyes is allowing more men to get forward than Dyche did, but playing the centre-forward role for Everton is still a thankless task. The lack of creativity is often painful to witness.

I won't hammer Lindstrom or Jack either, because they give their best and work hard for the team, but dear me, do we need better quality from our wide men.

I will forever be grateful to Doucourie, but we have a much better alternative in Alcaraz. Play him, for fiuck's sake.

Paul Kossoff.

Are you seriously suggesting that Ipswich or Leicester are capable of getting as many points in their last 10 games as they did in their previous 28??? They won't.

The gap between newly promoted teams and the rest of the Premier League has never been so wide. Even if Dyche had performed as badly in the second half of the season as he did in the first, we would still have finished comfortably above them. I don't see any of the bottom three reaching 30 points. I've been saying so for months…

Wholesale changes required in the rebuild, and if 5 or 6 of this squad remain they will still have to prove themselves early next season. The new owners won't tolerate a relegation scrap.

There's no point trying to mask the fact that we are (personnel-wise) a Bottom 6 club. There were 4-5 Everton players who started yesterday who aren't fit to wear that shirt and will, hopefully, be gone in the summer.

Another season crawling past the finishing line to survive. Another season to forget. Another season whose end can't come quick enough.

And on that joyful note, UTFT!!!

Seriously, Beto in the last two matches has alarmed me as much as he impressed me in the previous four. I counted at least 7 decent and gilt-edged chances that he fluffed.

But I bet he scores next week.

The ship has sailed, but I wonder where we would be if the club moved for Nuno instead Dyche? Spurs ruined his reputation, but look at Forest still scoring and winning games.

Finally, I hope Alcaraz stays, and Moyes then takes off the handbrake and starts him.

The run continues with performance and maximum points impacted by the loss of better players to injury. Shame we're not seeing what Ndiaye can do under Moyes.

33 points vs Ipswich on 17, and better goal difference, with 10 to go puts us in a very healthy position that is going to be practically impossible to turn around for the newly promoted side.

Try and finish as high up the league as possible for the £ placings. 13th to 16th is probably the challenge with £12.4m the difference at £3.1m a position.

Understand the clamour for Alcaraz, but discipline and work rate has got to be high to build that trust to be a starter. Picking up a needless yellow undermines that. It'll come, but I can understand why Moyes is taking it careful with him when Doucoure's press is still good.

Colin # 52, I think that's a good way of putting it. Beto hasn't been found out – he was never that good in the first place. He's done a great job so far, hitting 6 in 19, but he is hit-and-miss and he's not a polished footballer.

Since we are now unquestionably safe from relegation, it would be good to see Chermiti introduced to see what he can do in the final months of the season. Maybe even some minutes for the likes of Graham, Ebere and Dixon too.

Just a shame about Broja.

Changes will have to be made during the summer. I'll be surprised if Beto is leading the line next season, despite his recent goal scoring. But one or two others as well, not up to the standard required.

I wonder if the terms of the loan arrangement, number of games played (starts or minutes played) is having a say in the number of Alcaraz starts?

MotM today, Idrissa just keeps on keeping on and will start the 2026 season with us. I even love it when he shoots, it's Upper Gwladys, corner flag, or a scorcher.

Idrissa is our cog.

Beto needs to be worked with, guided and coached. He was playing non-professional football not that long ago and has the chance and capacity to develop further. He has good work ethic and spirit, passion for the club and fans too, the makings of a cult hero. He lacks some quality, yes, but who saw Chris Wood becoming one of the most dangerous strikers in the Premier League this season? Nobody – that's who.

He clearly has fragile confidence and us the fans can help with that, though it's hard when he is missing golden chances regularly. It's too early to be writing him off again, I actually thought he adjusted his body well and placed his shot nicely at the end, it was a good save. The first half-chance was a bigger miss IMO.

All that said and done, he is probably not the answer; ideally, he will be a squad player next season but one who gets plenty of minutes. For that to happen, we either need to spend big or for Chermiti to kick on and fulfil potential. It's possible but at least a season too soon for that. Sadly, I can't see either of those scenarios panning out.

For us to improve the side, we will need to get lucky with a punt on someone or we go all in for someone like Delap, £45-50M is what that is likely to cost so, unless TFG have over £100M for Moyes to spend in the summer, it isn't happening given the cover required elsewhere.

Tammy Abraham on loan maybe? Then that hampers Beto's developments and unsettles him. Tough calls all over the pitch this summer.

I think Moyes will relish the chance to spend at a club he clearly loves though, if only we had had the clout to back him when we had Jagielka, Bainaar, Lescott, Cahill, Arteta et al!

Michael, in your sum up, I thought you might have made more of Wolves free kick in the second half when Pickford gave him ¾ of the goal to aim at — if that shot was on target, it was a goal.

I don't know what Pickford was thinking... and that dive near the end of the game, flying through the air like Superman five seconds after the ball had gone past him!

I thought we were okay today at a team fighting for their lives. Looking forward to getting some players back, Illiman, McNeil and Alcaraz to start soon.

Not a one off either. I hope we'll be watching him in a blue shirt for years to come. And if he's Thelwell's last hurrah then, thanks Kevin!

"most of them looked Donald Ducked."

The players, their partners or both?

Well, I can only imagine… but both of them — otherwise the holiday was completely wasted!

The game for long periods was a ping-pong match, due to loading possession. Doucoure was poor and the defence poor for the goal, showing the well known lapse in concentration after scoring.

Not much was on for Everton forwards. Hopefully not winning will get them back to work for the next game. Gana and O'Brien were the only players up for the game from what I saw.

We can go all out for Delap or Ferguson but both will have richer suitors than us.

That is essentially why we generally have poor strikers. We don't pay much money for them or the players around them – and don't have the patience to develop the likes of Tzimas.

Give these players an inch and they'll take a mile.

There was that one fleeting moment where suddenly there was a proper footballer, with the ball at his feet, driving forward with intent, desire, and above all, skill that instantly set him apart from the dross that surrounded him, who soon rendered his vision and accuracy moot as yet another moeve collapsed into random chaos.

Yet Moyes doesn't play him from the start and he doesn't get enough time to change the game. Simply maddening.

Not to worry, and yes, we still have a 50-50 squad right now in terms of the good and the bad, and it is a very thin squad. But we're in a comfortable position and I think another point would do it, but I would rather we keep having a go. We should be able to now, as any remaining pressure has been realistically been lifted.

Most have said it: a pretty non-descript match. We were more restrained than we have been of late, but you can see in each game that the players are tiring.

So, not a lot to write home about. I thought Harrison took his goal well. Okay, it took a deflection, but nestled nicely in the far bottom corner. Do we call it a great precision pass from Lindstrom? He slips as he makes it, so was it lucky? Who cares? The intent was there!!

Beto was running on fumes again and should have scored with two chances. Could he have done better with the one-on-one? Possibly, but after the Beto - Alcaraz combination worked again to create the one-on-one (almost a carbon copy of the link up at Selhurst Park), he did get it on target and forced a decent save from the keeper.

Charly continues to impress with his drives forward. You always feel something can happen when he gets on the ball.

The less said about their equaliser, the better. Branthwaite seemed to get caught up in his own feet and Mykolenko got caught on the outside (the wrong side) of the Wolves sided player in the build up. I thought Jarrad, unusually, had a few of those brain fart moments. Not his best game, but I suppose we've become accustomed to his consistency. The other two defenders, Tarkowski and O'Brien, were pretty solid. Jordan made a couple of important saves too.

But in this type of match, it was Gana Gueye once again demonstrating his value to the team. He was all over the pitch, nipping at ankles and winning the ball back.

All in all, a useful point, which shouldn't be snubbed at. No staring down the trap door this season, so we can relax and actually enjoy the rest of the season.

West Ham next, one of my more entertaining train trips up, surrounded by noisy Irons. And then off we march across the park to delay the impending party.

I think there are 30 points to play for. We won't get them all, but should be confident enough to finish high. We wouldn't have been saying that a few months ago.

I think Doucoure and Beto must have the worst first touches in the Premier League, it's almost unbelievable that Moyes has got us to relative safety having to play these 2 up front. Also having Lindstrom and Harrison who haven't achieved an assist this season. I know Harrison scored but 1 goal a season from a front 3 player is just not good enough.

I read the player ratings in the Echo by Chris Beesley, he had Gana as one of our worst players, and these guys get paid to give their account of a game.

I am getting more and more concerned that James Garner isn't the answer in midfield. Just going back to Gana the man being a Muslim is fasting for most of the day yet gives a far more energetic performance than anybody else in a Blue shirt.

Given the performances of late, I think we can forgive a poor performance last night and I am putting it down to the long-haul flights.

I thought Alcaraz showed a lot of nice touches, when he picks the ball up and runs at the opposition, I know something will happen and I will be surprised if he doesn't start our next game.

I think we all know Beto is a very limited footballer but, at the moment, he is the only fit striker we have and, despite his limitations, always gives his best.

I like you couldn't believe Pickford's starting position for the Wolves free kick in the 2nd half. Had the free kick been on target, he would never have saved it. This follows his poor positioning for Fernandes's goal for Man Utd.

I know. Hard to understand.

I'm guessing it's "still" Moyes's proclivity for safety-first football.

Even more so now, as his contract is not being renewed or extended, so why play someone who will soon be history? It's not as if he is in the window, as he will leave for free, that is if anyone was stupid enough to pay his exorbitant wages.

Alcaraz, hopefully (we must sign him), will be a part of our future for years to come, and has shown glimpses of how good he can be, and may become even better, but only if he is selected from the start.

I ask because I am often concerned about the way he lines up his wall, and this is something that a decent, even average coach, should have surely picked up on by now.

He needs to. His positioning recently has been highly questionable. At fault for Man Utd's first I thought, and completely stood in wrong place for Wolves' free kick last night.

I think he's saved us a fair few points, but nobody is too big not to listen and improve.

He drives me insane with his huge punts.

While it was a rare Branthwaite mistake yesterday, that led to their goal, and admittedly Pickford didn't see it until late, but I'm sure he's pulled off similar in the past.

His goalkeeping coach was Alan Kelly and he has kept Pickford No 1 in England. Moyes is due to appoint David Lucas from the Academy to a first-team goalkeeping position.

Billy Mercier joined Everton in 2023 to take up a similar position. Kelly departed for a knee operation.

Some bloke called Aaron Cameron is the goalkeeping coach.

I used to be a GK back in the day.

And I have always said that the three main issues with Jordan are (apart from when he goes runaround) :-

1) Crosses / In charge of your 6 yard box

2) Direct freekicks and the wall

3) Standing or retreating behind the goalline

1 - He isn't the tallest. But he is hard as nails and a great puncher. Yet he is too timid. We all know and have seen when he should have been dealing with a high ball in and hasnt. Has stayed routed on his line (or behind it) and the opponents score. Its happened this season again.

2. He is fucking awful at walls. Positioning and knowledge of free kick types and takers. He concedes way too many goals at club level from them.

(Which is opposed to his penalty knowledge).

V Utd, Doucoure has a lot to answer for. Clearly Fernandez was using a decoy set up and a marker. The marker was the one who he aimed at and moved out of the way just before the strike by Bruno. Pickford decided NOT to cover his left. CARDINAL SIN. Also Doucoure hasnt a clue. Pickford should of roared at him to get up the Utd players arse. Stick to him like glue, instead of jauntily befriending him to his side. My dog was scared shitless coz I was roaring at the screen as it all unfolded. If Doucoure had marked the Utd guy, Bruno would not have scored. Instead he was another obstruction for Jordan to try and see around. Jordan should have been left by 2 paces.

I think his over cockiness is almost cajoling opponents to have a go, his self belief being he has it covered.

3) Numerous times when the opponents have scored, before the final shot, header, boot, arse connects, Jordan is behind the goalline. Why ? I have no idea. It is a habit that cost us a fair few times some years back, but he must have been bollocked and seemed to stop. He is drifting back into that bad habit. He is no use behind or 3/4 behind that line.

There was a point where he was a lot better at controlling his 6 yard box. Then he crippled VDyke. He seemed to go back into his shell completely.

Not at first. But quite soon after.

The lad should be better at the 3 weaknesses because he is good enough.

That he isn't, well ?

Has Cameron pointing these things out, plus what you both observe ?

If he has then Jordan isn't listening.

Pickford has had all those faults since we signed him a good few years ago, so he hasn't listened to any of these coaches and will continue to make these basic mistakes in the future.

I still love him being our No1 though.

I saw Becker making an arse of himself again yesterday. How I laughed. So over-rated.

I feel sorry for the Irish kid. He is way better, but not such an expensive name, I guess.

I bow to your kind Christian nature, loving a man with all those faults!

You might not have loved him as much if that free kick had gone in yesterday — nobody on the line, he set up, to blame, purely down to Jordan alone.

He is a great shot stopper, sometimes, don't ever forget that Martin.

So who do you suggest that we go for in the summer if you think Pickford will continue to make basic mistakes?

Personally, I wouldn't have any other keeper in the Premier League in goal for Everton, this fella single-handedly kept us in the Premier League on two occasions, I doubt any other keeper would have made the wonder saves against Chelsea that Jordan made.

We should be thankful for him because, when he goes, we will miss him.

Lets face it we have a squad of 10 to 14th league position players with a couple of exceptions. You are not going to see much if any 'fancy dan' style play. We still keep getting very decent results since Moyes became manager though.

I don't agree with most of the criticism of Doucoure, he's the workhorse that teams need. Ok it would be great if he was super skilled also, but then again he probably wouldn't be playing for us at this time.

I've never got Moyes mindset with flair players, he did the same first time round with us.

He seems to use them as impact players, Alcaraz and indyia (Spelling) with a clinical striker would cause havoc in most defences

Paul @62, Gana (as he likes to be known), is tremendous. He will turn 36 shortly into next season and is example to younger players what you can achieve and keep playing if you look after yourself and work hard. He is still incredibly fit and still has the energy of a 26 year old.

You can put Ashley young in that bracket. Always a few moans and sighs when he is picked or comes on, but credit to him for still going and in fairness, putting in some good performances, bringing an experienced head to the team.

By the way, what is the potential fee for Alcaraz? Do we know? We might be keen to buy him but can we currently afford him?

Last night was a decent point I thought, we didn't play great but likely would have taken nothing from that game under the previous regime. We're edging to mathematical safety.

Regarding Beto, he plays best on the counter when we can try to get him running at defenders. A summer spent coaching him playing with his back to goal is a must. He gets into positions and at times can finish so I don't think we should give up on him yet. That said, we may need to be in the market for a striker, I'm not sure we have the budget for a decent one with all of the other issues in the squad. It would be fantastic to see Chermiti get on the pitch, or maybe even Broja, heck even DCL before the season is over.

Much to solve up front before next season.

Yesterday when the ball went up to him, the defenders got touch tight and it just bounced off him. When we looked to knock it behind, they dropped off 5 yards and easily swept up.

Not sure he was as bad to get a '2' though - Colin on another thread!

I see a new Moyes team forming with him and Iliman as key players. New contracts for Gana and Jarrad too. I’d be interested in whether Moyes can get a tune out of McNeil, a player I like a lot.

Quality needs to be brought at RM and RB, ready made first team starters. Let’s see what the summer brings.

Poor team performance yesterday, just not at it at all, still a points a point but will have to improve on that performance for the West Ham game.

Agree with Dave, players looked like they had been out on the lash, or serviced their other halves when they got back home.

Goalkeepers have worked out Beto let’s the ball run without controlling it, then tries to side pass it into the goal, getting a special training session for Guaye, Garner and Beto to work on controlling the ball then shooting would be a start.

Pretty sure Guaye and Garner have a sweepstake for the one who can get closest to row z with their shots.

Imagine if we had Ndiaye, Calvert-Lewin, McNeill and Beto available, definetly an upgrade on Harrison, Lindstrom and Beto, we'd definitely be alot more potent in the final third.

I’ve said he’s a great shot stopper and those double saves he made against Chelsea were very good but those saves were in one game and he made many more along with the many mistakes he made that cost us goals and many he got away with but however good you think he is no player single- handedly kept us in the premier league —— he helped.

You wouldn’t have any other keeper in Everton’s goal and we would miss him well that’s fair enough.

I think he is over hyped by Everton fans I doubt if fans of other clubs rate him as high as our fans I think he is a good ‘keeper but I’m not blind to his faults and have a go when he makes them although not as often as I could, and I have praised him many times in the past.

Beto read that back !