David Moyes casts long shadow over beleaguered Sean Dyche after incredible Bournemouth collapse

Textor deal will be announced and Moyes will be back.

Remember what it was like.

Going back never works.

Unpopular it may seem, but picking Moyes for a bounce in the short term is the right choice. The last thing we need is to change the style of play again where the players have to re-re-re-adapt.

I agree, we won't go down with Moyes — and that in the short term is the most important thing, regardless of how pretty it looks.

There's no-one around to sack Dyche so we'd better get used to him for now. But I agree with one thing, he needs to learn some lessons from Saturday as much as anyone, and pronto.

I think we showed on Saturday for 87 minutes that there's a decent football in them. It just needs someone with modern football knowledge to take us forward.

Clue: it's identical but for a very subtle change in the colour (in this case, 2 greying gingers)

Graham Potter would be my choice – young, progressive, plays good football and would likely get a decent tune out of this lot, the way he did with Brighton.

Will we change managers? No, no we won't.

The only time I have seen competitive football in Europe was under David Moyes and I’m 55. It’s not pretty granted but we must stay in the division.

Paul Hewitt @6 agree, we definitely do not lose or even draw that game under Moyes.

I don’t remember Moyes setting any unwanted records, may be wrong here but certainly nothing as catastrophic as the two broken in the last 12 months.

Apart from one season when we finished comfortably one place above relegation, 12 points if I remember, I don’t remember Moyes ever being in danger of taking us down. Again, happy to be corrected.

The team is much better than Dyches results suggest. He has to go.

Moyes was still getting rubbish off them before they had even found a home for the European trophy he won in their ‘plenty of room’ trophy cabinet.

I’m not saying Moyes is the perfect choice but even a slight improvement may well be enough to keep us in this division.

We played Wigan at home around 2008 (I think).

Winning 2-0 going into the last 15 mins.

3 points in the bag.

Moyes took Lee Carsley off. He was playing a blinder as sweeper (if memory serves).

We drew 2-2.

Carsley had stopped everything that day and did not appear to be injured.

Wigan capitalised.

Not anywhere near as catastrophic as Bournemouth - but a glaring error by the then manager.

I also remember him getting the bifters on here for his mediocre substitutions (not going for it etc).

Just saying ……

Edit - this is not a comment on DM as a manager. He did well for EFC in the first few years here before it all got a bit (we thought) stale. Put is back on the map. But everyone makes mistakes.

Too many of the recent Everton managers have distanced themselves from the supporters and look as if they are observers rather than the leaders we need them to be.

I thought Dyche was the right choice, but he seems to find managing Everton as an annoyance rather than an opportunity, albeit in difficult circumstances.

Whether Dyche sees out the season or not, the difficulty of keeping Everton in the division will remain, but it would be better if the manager of the club, harnessed the passionate nature of Everton's support, rather than feel that they are part of the clubs issues.

Our situation doesn't call for us to be too adventurous in the near term, but it does demand that everybody at the club is pulling in the same direction, will Dyche be able to change his ways, and more importantly his messaging, or do we need to turn to someone who we know?

Moyes has similar methods to Dyche, but he is someone we know will demand the utmost from his players, even if he's only slightly better at obtaining results over a season.

There was much that was excellent with Sean Dyche's team and the way they played on Saturday until the 83rd minute. He now needs to build on the positives.

The return of Branthwaite will have a huge impact, Garner or Mangala will make us more solid in midfield while the attacking play of Ndiaye and Calvert-Lewin will ensure we win enough points to reach mid-table.

Not just the old sky 4 to contend with nowadays - City, Newcastle, Villa even Brighton have our number. If he's thinking "no problem It's the same shite as before" he's off his cake. Unless massive money comes in the construction of BMD has done for us for the foreseeable - quite literally we are dead in the water.

But at least Everton would be one less distraction and I'd finally get the house finished.

'Kinell, Moyes

I've thought a lot about Lee Carsley the last few years, he was not fully appreciated as a player, I always rated him and watched him grow as a manager.

Perhaps after his caretaker role is done, he will fancy club management...

Please, somebody with half a brain, takeover our club.

A question I have for Dyche. You said the players should know you must play for the full 90 minutes plus the injury time. So why did you bring Ndiaye off to get a big round of applause ? That signalled to me, you thought the game was done and dusted or am I wrong.

I am absolutely choked with that result. I felt physically sick when that 3rd went in. I posted a quite sweary post on the live forum. So bad I later apologised for it. However it was akin to a former Heavy Weight Champion making a comeback, only to see all his effort and brilliance in the early rounds, wasted in a last round beating, ending in a serious knock out and an end to all his dreams.

That result will hang over EFC for a very long time, unless the manager and the players start winning games instead of bottling them.

Great article Lyndon. Sums it all up perfectly.

PS: £5m for ensuring we finish above 18th. Whats that all about ?

In those days, Lee Carsley was the first name on my EFC team-sheet (in front of the back 4).

Yes - very under-rated.

Of course, management is very different to playing (see Wayne R, Frank L and others for reference) but I hope he does well.

I also wouldn't fancy Potter.

If and when we replace Dyche, I'd rather we cast the net a bit further.

There are only 3 English managers in the Premier League. I rather we cast the net further.

If Dyche was sacked tomorrow do we have anyone within who could successfully step up for the caretaker role as I haven't seen evidence of any of the Academy coaches being up to it.

And before anyone asks for names, I have pointed out before that almost every Premier League team has made managerial changes in the last two years or so and we would not be the only club to have done so a couple or more times, so there are plenty out there even if we don't have too many, if any, executives capable of picking the right one.