Dyche's job is 'safe' despite winless start to season

Hurrah.

Personally, I think he'll be out of a job by the end of September if the next two league games are lost.

Roll on, new ownership!

If he doesn't get results in coming games against Leicester, Southampton, Palace, Ipswich then whoever's running the ship at the moment may be forced to act.

UTFTs!

Leicester is a must-win now.

Dyche hasn't got long left unless his team starts winning and, if he really had a lot of credit in the bank, then I'm sure he would have been offered a new contract?

It's actually scary having a manager entering the last year of his contract without being offered a new deal for obvious reasons, so let's hope he's on a good bonus for keeping us up; otherwise, he might just lose interest.

Surely the board aren't that stupid!!!!!!!

The only saving grace might be that Branthwaite comes back fit and raring, Dixon and Patterson share the load at right-back, Young stays fit enough for left-back, Chermiti rotates with Calvert-Lewin and Beto, Lindstrom, Iroegbunam and Ndiaye all gel together, Virginia proves his worth… and how many if buts and maybes is that, for fuck's sake???

Capt Dyche steadied the ship enough to scrape through last season, but we need a new pilot now.

In all seriousness. I think the club ( whomever you choose to belive is making decisions) are looking thinking that it's only a 1 point worse than last season at this point .

Hard as fans to see it that way with the manner of the defeats, they just want to stay in the league. Be it by one point on the last day.

It's a gamble either way now.

Do you stick with the man who's kept you up twice by the skin of your teeth?

Do you try your luck ?

As a fan it's hard to get behind this manager, who I've backed under extreme pressures on and off the pitch.

Now it's really just the pitch, he's brought in some players, had time with the sqaud, time to implement his philosophy.

The problem is his philosophy.

You can't just consistently give the ball back to your opposition, long balls to an isolated front man with no support, only to see the opposition meandering backing to your own half unaposed will only end one way, even if your 2 - 3 - 4 nil up.

The little one touch passage of play that led to DCL one on one shows this team has ability, they are being Coached to not play that way, that just came naturally.

The club won't act until its truly in the balance, does anyone really belive they even have a list of people ready to look at ? Come on !!

I hope I'm wrong and Thelwell sees the impending danger.

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The players do have ability. They need to be able to express themselves and play with confidence.

I think we stayed up in spite of him, not because of him.

The players look like they have had the energy Dyched out of them.

But the way this season has started and the shite we are serving up is just not acceptable. The stats are damning, 5 wins since December 2023. Plus he keeps picking Keane who has a the luck of Jonah and we concede almost 3 goals a game when he plays.

Moshiri has made a right fuck-up of running this club and his choice of managers has been terrible. I just hope the negative football can keep us up for the move into the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock next year.

Therein lies the problem for me and I suspect many others.

Everton currently are not expected to beat anybody. The sooner he goes the better

Aston Villa got promoted in 2019 and after some shite managerial appointments they've made the right choice with Unai Emery, they now think like a big club, a club that at least wants to condition itself to success.

Newcastle were fighting relegation with us when Lampard beat them 1-0 in March 2022.

Yet Newcastle have now become a club that can challenge the top six and probably will challenge the top six, all done within less than two years and with far less spent than us between 2016 and 2019.

The lack of belief and the status quo losers mentality at Everton runs very deep, it's a shrug of the shoulders when we lose games like Saturday, but it shouldn't be

That comes from having an owner, and before that, a chairman at the club that didn't think Everton Football Club should be demanding success or at least attempting to reach it.

Dyche is basically Polyfilla, he is just a man brought in to stick a few things together, he won't make anything look better, no improvement will be made, he's just there to take plaudits when he keeps a team up playing a pragmatic way of football, but he'll never improve any attacking players game, he just won't.

Most clubs now don't make Dyche, Allardyce, Pulis type appointments, they've all moved away from that now and want a new modern way of thinking and style of play.

Sadly Everton have been stuck in the dark ages too long.

We have gone through so many managerial changes and most times we've gone backwards. It's ridiculous.

We need to have some patience and give him and the team some time to sort things out.

Swing by the Oak and l will join the protest.

The next three league games will tell us a great deal, we beat Newcastle and drew with Palace at Goodison last term. Leicester on Saturday will be challenging given our current defensive frailties.

Tricia, why not organize it?

Perhaps not, as Stoke's sporting director, Jon Walters, said a “change in direction” is needed for the club. He told the club website:

“My role as sporting director is to make tough decisions that serve the long-term interests of Stoke City. After ongoing discussions with [chairman] John Coates, we feel the time is right for a change in direction to bring success to the club.

“We have a young, dynamic squad that is eager to develop and a clear vision of how to achieve success, and we hope to announce a new appointment shortly. We will need the fans, staff, and players united in support to achieve our goals. As always in football, these decisions are difficult, and we wish Steven and his staff all the best for the future.”

Sorry to hear that he had lost his job, he was very successful in his previous job, hopefully, he will find an opportunity in the not-too-distant future.

Three massive games for our manager before the International break. Hopefully, we can turn the tide but we are nowhere near the level we were at this time last season as a defensive unit and that is a huge worry.

So scraping past relegation the last two seasons he is ok until we go down, I don't think banking works that way will they lend you the money to back a cert which will put you back in the black if it wins only for it to go down, no they require more security than that.

Something is not right I don't know anyone at the club and it is just a personal thought but why have all the new signings suddenly been set to the default Everton way of reaching the level of the rest so quickly.

One quarter of the play and two nil up then twice the lead is overturned and we grab defeat from the jaws of victory what is the key to playing well then suddenly the decent play falls apart.

We know Calvert-Lewin is far from a great striker you just knew when he seemed to go to slow motion when one one-on-one with the goalkeeper that he'd fluff it. His Header was great his shot that hit the bar had the goalie beat all ends up but one-on-one it is as though the world falls apart.

Something is preventing the players seeing the game out with confidence but it needs to stop now and whatever it is needs extracting like a rotten tooth and thrown in the bin.

Although logically you expect him to act now to protect his investment, he hasn't done anything logical to that effect for getting on 4 years.

It isn't just PSR either.

It might well be that Moshiri's stake in Everton has always been illusory. After all, we know full well that Usmanov was involved somewhere.

And we've been in very very serious risk of relegation 3 seasons in a row now. Yet Moshiri has done nothing – except the last throw of a dice appointment of Dyche when we were desperate for reinforcements in the playing staff but got none.

It looks pretty clear that Moshiri won't incur any further expense. Which might explain why our last 4 managers were all out of work – and didn't need a compensation package – and also explains why we've had significant negative investment for three consecutive summer windows – to the tune of about £250M against rivals like Brentford, Bournemouth and Forest.

God only knows what is going on behind the scenes.

I don't believe each season will play out the same as the previous season.

Yes, they are teams we took points from, but I'm sure we will take points from teams we didn't last season (hard to imagine at the moment, I know).

I hope that you're right, and of course each season is different and each team has a few different players.

Whichever way we cut it, none of it is pleasant and we need those first 3 points ASAP.

Yes, it's true, Dom should score, then we wait for them to look at it, but for some insane reason he can't score those chances. It does seem mental that a striker who's scored two in two all of a sudden becomes Stuart Barlow when clean through; it's his nemesis that he's never been able to overcome sadly.

Loan to buy, or buying on the never.never, isn’t a plan, but hopefully it’s enough to survive

Stoke sacked their manager after 5 games, 2 of which they won, it's an absolute joke. Any club who pulls the plug on their manager that early in the season is in panic mode.

I am in no doubt that Dyche will find it almost impossible to survive if he doesn't turn things around in the next three games as the second International break is an opportunity to make a change.

I doubt if the cost of letting him go will save him as he and his team have less than a year to run on their contracts.

We will not be in a position to pay compensation in order to obtain a manager who is currently in a job, therefore, we will be looking at someone who is out of work and because we have an absolute need to stay in the Division, someone who knows the Premiership. It's a bit early for a Big Sam fireman gig so maybe if the change is made they might look to Potter as the solution. He did well at Brighton and will be hungry to succeed after his experience at Chelsea. He also tries to get his teams to play in a joined up constructive manner. His appointment would not split the fan base, something that might happen if David Moyes returned.

It will be interesting to see what happens because almost every decision in football can go either way, but the Chairman and sporting director have both looked at their squad and decided they want to have a change of direction, is what has been reported on this decision.

Walters said it was the hardest decision he has ever had to make, and this was probably made harder because the team had won their last two games, after the international break, but this is football and people live and die by their decisions.

Dyche can’t have long left if he doesn’t start getting his team to win football matches, although I’m not sure who will pull the plug, because our club looks rudderless, imo.

I’ve heard people saying our club is not rudderless because the ground is nearly finished and people are still making decisions, but the deafening silence from within the club, is definitely sucking the life out of a lot of Evertonians, right now.

Dyche is also sucking the life out of thousands, and so is our defending, but if Dyche won the next three league games and Everton, were suddenly sold, I don’t think many people would say the new owner was panicking, if he came in and decided he wanted the club to go in a different direction, Christopher?

Change can’t come soon enough, but please god, let it be the ownership of the club, that is decided first