Season › 2024-25 › News The Friedkin Group takeover of Everton is confirmed Lyndon Lloyd and Michael Kenrick 19/12/2024 148comments | Jump to last The Friedkin Group are officially the new owners of Everton Football Club after their buy-out of Farhad Moshiri's 94.1% stake in the Club was ratified. After more than 12 weeks of regulatory scrutiny, the Premier League gave its approval for the change of ownership to go ahead this week and the Houston-based firm's takeover could finally be confirmed today. Everton have been acquired by Roundhouse Capital Holdings Limited (Roundhouse), an entity within The Friedkin Group (TFG), following the necessary regulatory approvals from the Premier League, Women’s Professional Leagues Limited, the Football Association, and the Financial Conduct Authority. The Premier League issued this statement: Article continues below video content The Premier League Board has approved The Friedkin Group’s 98.8 per cent acquisition of Everton Football Club, following the completion of the league’s owners’ and directors’ test. Having been agreed by the board, the takeover has now been ratified by an Independent Oversight Panel. The club’s new owners and directors have also signed the Premier League’s Owners’ Charter. The price of the long-anticipated transaction is believed to be in the region of £500m but the financial intricacies of the deal are complicated by Everton's massive debts — now thought to be a least £660m — and were a compounding factor in the sale. A significant part of that debt, in the form of interest-free shareholder loans provided to the club by Moshiri, has been converted to equity via a new share issue. It represents the end of a long drawn-out process that began with Moshiri entertaining offers for his majority shareholding in the club in 2022 after Everton's finances reeled in shock at the removal of corporate sponsorship deals connected with the Uzbek-born oligarch, Alisher Uzmanov, when he was sanctioned by Western governments in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Since then, both the British-Iranian businessman's willingness to and ability to keep funding the Club has been significantly curtailed as he sought to sell his investment. He entered into exclusive talks with the KAM Group, MSP Sports Capital and Miami’s 777 Partners before reaching an agreement with The Friedkin Group in September. With the sale of the Club being finalized, and the consequent departure of Moshiri, the Interim Board of Directors that was put in place last year following the departures of CEO Denise Barrett-Baxendale, finance director Grant Ingles and non-executive director Graeme Sharp will be disbanded. Colin Chong stepped in as interim CEO and deserves tremendous credit for overseeing the final stages of construction of the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock, the keys to which are expected to be handed over to the Club for the final fit-out process any day now. TFG have named the new Executive Chairman of Everton, Marc Watts, who is currently a director at AS Roma and will be joined in the boardroom at the Royal Liver Building by TFG’s chief financial officer, Ana Dunkel. Other directors are expected to succeed Chong, Moshiri, James Maryniak and John Spellman shortly. With no announcement from the new owners regarding the footballing side of the operation, both the manager, Sean Dyche, and Director of Football, Kevin Thelwell, keep their jobs for the time being where continuity is understood to be preferred as Everton seek to preserve their place in the Premier League over the second half of the season. A statement from Dan Friedkin read: Dear Evertonians, Following the completion of the takeover of Everton Football Club, I want to express my gratitude for your continued support and introduce the incoming Executive Chairman of Everton, Marc Watts. I take immense pride in welcoming one of England’s most historic football clubs to our global family, The Friedkin Group. Everton represents a proud legacy, and we are honoured to become custodians of this great institution. The Friedkin Group is a diverse family of companies with a global footprint spanning industries such as sports, automotive, entertainment, hospitality, and adventure. Across all our endeavours, we strive to deliver extraordinary experiences that ignite people’s passions. We are thrilled to bring this ethos to Everton and the Liverpool City Region. Whilst we are new to the Club, we fully understand the vital role Everton plays in local culture, history, and the lives of Evertonians here and around the world. We are deeply committed to honouring this legacy while contributing positively to the community, economy, and people of this remarkable city. Once again, thank you for your continued support. Yours sincerely, Dan Friedkin Open Letter from Marc Watts,Everton's new Executive Chairman Reader Comments (148) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Michael Stewart 1 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:12:53 Outstanding news. Lets now hope for some stability and progression. Neil Cox 2 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:13:56 Thank God for that! Great news Andrew Keatley 3 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:14:57 Moshiri was a false dawn that threatened to kill our great club. Lets hope the Friedkin era brings some off-field stability and on-field ambition. Steve Barnes 4 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:15:08 Fantastic news! Thursday brings new owners, Friday brings a new stadium Saturday brings news of a stadium sponsor (Toyota…?) and Sunday we batter Chelski !Well, it is Christmas and I can dream….COYB ! Dave Waugh 5 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:16:43 Great news. Let's hope this ushers in a new era of re-building our club and some immediate strengthening of the team. Noleen Daya 6 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:17:05 HEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAA! I've got the champers in the fridge and when I'm done with work tonight I'll be glugging away. Lets hope it's onwards and upwards in all the positive ways and that the Friedkin bunch aren't another nightmare to live through (altho', can they possibly be worse than Moshiri?). I never wanted Americans to own our club but hell. I'm just going to enjoy this moment for what it is! Well done to all of us who's been living through the dread and are still here! John Chambers 7 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:22:34 Thats the Christmas present sorted!Whilst the team is in a worse position than when Moshiri arrived with the new stadium, this acquisition and the lifting of some of the debt Moshiri saddled us with the club is definitely in a better position to grow and eventually get us back at the right end of the table. Im sure we all hope that happens quickly but I suspect progress will be much more measured and sustainable under the new owners rather than trying to buy every number 10 going in the summer Mark Lewis 8 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:22:56 Literally got tears in my eyes! Going out for lunch so turning it into a mini celebration even though my wife doesn't get what's happening. Tony Waring 9 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:24:22 Great news. Let's all look forward to stability and many more goals starting with the game against Chelsea. Is there any truth in the rumour that we have re-signed Naismith for a one match appearance or is it just wishful thinking ? Mark Andrews 10 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:25:50 This looks like excellent and exciting news.Hopefully now our tired old club can be rejuvenated by competent and ambitious owners.Moving away from the past few years of barely keeping our heads above water to actually flourishing.Patience is the key word here as Rome wasn't built in a day, but tangible improvements should be visible to us soon.Please, no more dark days. We've had more than our fair share in recent years.UTFT Pat Kelly 11 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:27:43 About Friedkin time Brent Stephens 12 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:28:34 I'm pleased with the sale, swerving e.g. 777. Given our various false dawns over recent years (new ownership, new head coaches and DoFs), I'm going to be cautiously optimistic. Brendan McLaughlin 13 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:28:39 At last!Great Christmas present for all Evertonians. Mike Hayes 14 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:30:07 Always good to get early Christmas presents lets hope Friedkin can exorcise the ghosts of Christmas past - onwards and upwards slowly and better than before 💙 Steve Shave 15 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:31:36 This is really fantastic news. A new dawn, a chance to wipe the slate clean. I really hope they bring in a cohesive and visionary board. Top to bottom culture change and reset required. It will be a long road but hope springs in the corridors of our great club once again! A spectacular review needs to be undertaken of how the club has been run. Mistakes must be learnt from. Let's make the Freidkins know what we are about at the weekend, let's show them what they have brought and the potential that could be unearthed. A pre-season friendly with Roma next year please, let's get behind the multi-club model (like it or not) and welcome them with open arms. As for Moshiri… I don't want to hear his name again, one of the worst things to happen to our club. Foolish man. Neil Lawson 16 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:34:22 Great news. Genuine optimism now. Sunday may be 'D Day'. How important may that result and performance be ? Let's see. COYB. Robert Williams 17 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:34:52 Now, don't make any mistakes like hiring Moyes or Mourinho!COYBs Kevin Edward 18 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:37:46 Wow! We move on at long last.I really hope we can regain some of the status weve lost (or thrown away) over the last years.The new stadium is a new dawn, new owners too. If these guys are smart with money and have a bit of luck with managers and players then were back in the game.The fact that so many Evertonians have stuck with the club and still believe is a miracle. We must have been so so close to going down the drain.But Moshiri gets some credit for building the new stadium, its up to the new owners to make it a success and all things good can follow.Up the Toffees! Andrew Merrick 19 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:38:02 Yesssssssssssssssbrilliant timing, made up Joe McMahon 20 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:40:41 Thrilled! Hopefully better times are now ahead, better style of football in a stadium to be proud of.Merry Christmas to all Blues! Mike Gaynes 21 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:44:02 Thats about 10 years worth of Hanukkah presents for me!The menorah will blaze tonight with all blue candles, even though its a few days early. Bob Parrington 22 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:45:05 Haleluhya, Haleluhya - Just next to our anniversary of the first official Everton game in 1897! Great Omen! See you in the top 6 shortly. Sorry if my spelling of the H word is wrong Christine Foster 23 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:48:53 Hopefully it will spark a big lift on the terraces and the pitch at the weekend, show them what Gooison can do! Steve Brown 24 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:49:39 Brilliant news, now the hard work begins.Standards and professionalism at all levels are needed. Steve Shave 25 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:50:43 Ha, no high and unrealistic expectations then, Bob! This mess will take years to fix, culture change must happen though, starting today. Expectations are the birthplace of disappointment so I am just going to enjoy being rid of the buffoon and the renewed life this will breathe into our stagnating corpse of a club. I will also enjoy the feeling that we might actually have a vision, something sorely lacking for decades. Let's see what they do, hopefully they've been busy in preparation. Colin Glassar 26 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:52:26 Hallefuckinglujah!!! At long last. Bob Parrington 27 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:52:47 👍 Christine! Mal van Schaick 28 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:55:29 Heres to a new era of Evertons history. Onwards and upwards starting with a win on Sunday. Brent Stephens 29 Posted 19/12/2024 at 10:58:33 Christine "Hopefully it will spark a big lift on the terraces and the pitch at the weekend, show them what Goodison can do!"Yes! I guess the atmosphere at GP Saturday will be quite electric - coming off the results against Wolves and Arsenal (especially), the images of the nearly-complete BMD stadium, the anticipation of getting seats at the new place, and now this. I wonder if the players will receive any impetus from this?Enough to make you want to celebrate with a bottle of Chang. Ian Pilkington 30 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:00:33 Hallelujah!24 years and 360 days after Kenwright bought the club. May his disastrous reign be expunged at last. At least Moshiri left us the legacy of the new stadium. Bob Parrington 31 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:00:45 Steve Shave, Okay, completely understood. But this is the start of a new being. I feel it in my bones. After being an Evertonian since 1954, this is music to my ears. My last real high (before migrating to Australia in November 1986) was the Cup-Winners Cup Final in Rotterdam. Jees! that was good and helped by the cops playing us in the main square. Steve Dowdeswell 32 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:06:07 Great news farewell Mr Moshri and welcome to TFG - Hopefully you will have a degree of business nouse and employee a back office staff who have a clue about running a football club. Then hopefully make changes on the pitch and on the touchline in January.A mega naming rights deal a'la Etihad please would be nice too - if it's good enough for Man City to have inflated sponsorship deals it's good enough for us!To be honest I will be happy if they just give a shit and turn up to a match now and then at Goodison this season and BMD in the future. Paul Hewitt 33 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:06:57 Moshiri may have been a disaster, but he left us a magnificent new stadium, and walked away from £450 million in loans John Chambers 34 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:10:33 Interesting comment on Talksport just now said we will be debt free! Not sure how that has come about as I thought outside of Moshiris loans to the club we owed another £350m or so to 777/Acap etc? Brian Williams 35 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:14:15 What a brilliant early Christmas present.TFG are the real deal and if any group is going to help us progress it's them.They'll make mistakes no doubt but who doesn't?A great weight's been lifted from my own shoulders and although we're not out the shit in the league yet at least we have credible, professional owners who know their stuff and have the funds to make a difference.UTFT! Steve Brown 36 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:15:41 Its also being reported that Paul that Moshiri is walking away with £25 million from the £128 million he spent to buy the club and £450 million in shareholder loans. That is a serious write off! Paul Smith 37 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:17:25 Long live sense and reason. So happy today ! Colin Glassar 38 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:19:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah Paul. Moshiri did get the stadium built. Did “walk away” from his loans but lets not forget, and keep things in context, he almost destroyed the club alongside his mate.He turned the club into a basket case with his hiring and firing madness. He made us a laughing stock. He hired Sam Allardyce and the FSW ffs!! The years of mediocrity under kenshite turned into a nightmare under Moshiri.Yes, weve got a shiny new stadium but hes left us in intensive care, and well be paying for his mistakes for years to come. Edward Rogers 39 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:20:23 Great news, but what's even more encouraging is the understanding of posters on here and other outlets as to how it's not going to change things overnight. This process is going to take time, please let us all give them that time. Richard Duff 40 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:31:54 Fabulous news at last.I really hope we don't hear much from TFG now, just let them get to work;Restructuring the entire club from Ethos and Purpose through the Executive, Management and Staff layers, across all functions and divisions within the business, revise and modernise all of our commercial deals (stadium sponsors, shirt sponsors, kit distribution, catering, hospitality), exit Goodison with grace and gratitude, enter BMD with excitement, professionalism and shoulders back, chin up!And maybe a couple of wing-backs for Christmas? Paul Hewitt 41 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:37:37 Colin I'm certainly not saying Moshiri hasn't made mistakes, he has, loads. But hopefully in a few years time when we're settled into BMD and the teams doing better, we can still thank him for the stadium and walking away with nothing. He could have easily demanded his Loans back. Then no one would have bought us. Sean Kearns 42 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:38:20 I'm told from a reliable source that Graeme Potter is to be our next manager… he was approached months ago but said he wouldn't take it until the takeover is complete. Dyche knows and has downed tools and Seamus has been giving the team talks. Just what I've heard from somebody on the inside… Bye all. Good times ahead. Steve Brown 43 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:40:04 Colin, you are being harsh there.He wrote off £553 million of his investment and he left a new stadium that cost £750 million to build. He didnt have to agree to those terms.He did so to safeguard the future of the club, and for one an willing to express gratitude. Mark Murphy 44 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:41:11 “That's why our immediate priority is stabilising the club and improving results on the pitch.”Let's just get this done and ram those “Best stadium in the Championship” jibes down the gobshites' throats!UTnewFT Andy Crooks 45 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:41:26 Sean, really??? Who is this " source"? Steve Brown 46 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:42:40 Sean @ 42, my happiness has just dipped if that is true. It was noticeable though that Thelwell and Dyche were mentioned in Moshiri's statetment, but not referenced in any of those from TFG. Sean Kearns 47 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:42:40 No questions please. Sean Kearns 48 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:44:01 Dan Ashworth likely incoming too Steve Brown 49 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:47:22 John @ 34, TFG have paid off the A-CAP/777 loan. Reportedly they paid £60 million of the £200 million loaned. 777 agreed it as an unsecuritised loan but some posters were claiming that it would prevent the sale. That was never the case. Steve Brown 50 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:48:28 Nah Sean, now I am sceptical of the whole thing. Nigel Scowen 51 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:50:31 Sean @ 42Dont ruin it Sean! Ernie Baywood 52 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:50:55 If you buy a business and then run that business dreadfully then you lose money. That's just what happens. Expensive mistake by Moshiri - shit happens.I hope this lot make a fortune out of us by running us successfully and eventually selling us when we're in a great position. I know what I'd do first. And conveniently right before the transfer window opens. Fred Quick 53 Posted 19/12/2024 at 11:52:00 I think that Moshiri should be thankful that the Evertonians rallied round the team during some really tough times out on the pitch. We may have unrealistic expectations at times and put our players under pressure on occasions, but without those Evertonians giving the maximum support at crucial times, it's unthinkable what may have happened to the club in the last few years.I'm hoping that the new guys make good decisions on all fronts, and that the team responds with better results on the pitch. I'm also hoping the only thing we debate on here is the merits of the staff and players, and we don't have to consult any financial or legal dictionaries in order to understand what may be happening at our club. Everton x Opponents y is the most important aspect for us as supporters and it should be one of the highest priorities for the new people too. Everton supporters finally get what they deserve as true story of Farhad Moshiri era emerges Andrew Merrick 54 Posted 19/12/2024 at 12:02:40 With regard to a new stadium sponsor...I wonder if the Toyota logo could be paired with blue lettering instead of red? Sam Hoare 55 Posted 19/12/2024 at 12:03:26 Great news. Improving things off the field should be relatively easy and re-structuring our debt will be a massive help straight away.On the field is trickier. Will be interesting to see how long TFG give Dyche. May well depend on results over Xmas. I actually don't think there are many more obvious targets than Graham Potter who has already done in the PL exactly what we currently require. He took a dour Brighton team that was struggling with relegation battles and with relatively small investment turned them into one of the better teams to watch in the league whilst taking them from 17th under Hughton to 9th in 3 seasons.We can't expect to become European contenders overnight. Better football and moving back to a stable mid-table team must be the aim over the next 2-3 years. I can't think of too many managers who have already achieved that in the PL in recent times. Perhaps Iraola and Thomas Frank, but not sure they'd be easy to get. Jimmy Salt 56 Posted 19/12/2024 at 12:24:34 They say its always darkest before the dawn and boy has it been gloomy. But the stars are aligning and just in time for the Winter Solstice brighter days are ahead of us.Personally, I would've let Dyche go last season but Everton over the last few years has been a convoluted beast and who is to know what has been going on behind the walls.Now I think continuity may be best, get us over the line Sean and start afresh in the Spring, the time of renewal, rebirth and regrowth? Michael Kenrick 57 Posted 19/12/2024 at 13:13:46 This reaction from the Fan Advisory Board:We welcome todays news that the takeover of Everton Football Club by The Friedkin Group is now complete.Notwithstanding the development of our exceptional new home on the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey, our recent history has been clouded by relegation battles, financial uncertainty, failed ownership bids, a leadership vacuum and unjust sporting sanctions.Todays announcement provides the opportunity for Evertonians to once again look forward with hope and optimism.We note the terms of the deal which help create a stable financial platform for future growth, and the commitment that new Board members, Dan Friedkin, Marc Watts and Ana Dunkel will lead “through actions, not words”.We believe that these steps are critical in helping realise the great potential of Everton Football Club.We would like to place on record our thanks to interim Chief Executive, Colin Chong, for the work he and the executive team have done in navigating the more difficult times and for his and their willingness to engage and keep open lines of communication.The Friedkin Group is now part of one of the greatest sporting institutions in club football, one with a deep heritage, tradition, and a loyal fanbase that will demand the best. We are encouraged by the aims and ambitions that TFG have set out today and their stated core mission to go beyond the ordinary, lead through competence, innovation, teamwork and an eagerness to excel.Providing clarity and communicating about the road ahead will be essential. We recognise that change will not come overnight. We look forward to hearing more about their plans in the coming weeks and months and working alongside them to help achieve their aims of embracing the passion, creativity and values of Evertonians.Most of all, we look forward to getting back to winning ways both on and off the field. David Israel 58 Posted 19/12/2024 at 13:22:38 It couldn't have come at a more favourable occasion, but it is certainly a great piece of news.If I read things correctly, Moshiri has walked away with just about £60, having agreed that his huge loans to the club be converted into shares, of which there has also been a fresh issue, taken up by TFG.Time now to work our way up the table, and perhaps doing one or two things right in the FA Cup. Dan Parker 59 Posted 19/12/2024 at 13:29:28 Delighted and really pleased for us all, there have been times where we've had to worry about bankruptcy this season, extra stress on top of the annual relegation battle. Stadium all set to go, new owners and a strong sister club in Roma, we can finally look forward with excitement for the future. Still work to be done this season and beyond but better times ahead. COYB Andrew Clare 60 Posted 19/12/2024 at 13:31:03 I have just put an optimistic post on another thread only to come on this one and hear that Sean at 42 has heard that Graham Potter is earmarked to be our next manager.Please please don't consider a manager from these isles — they are tactically inept! Joe McMahon 61 Posted 19/12/2024 at 13:35:55 Andrew, as much as I can't stand him, my preference would be to keep Dyche until season end, unless we go to a real downward spiral. But Potter may struggle like he did at Chelsea. I know he's in a job, but I'll like Thomas Frank. Ian Hollingworth 62 Posted 19/12/2024 at 13:43:46 Phew and wow, what a feeling.Let's hope this really is the start of a new era for us. UTFT Dennis Stevens 63 Posted 19/12/2024 at 13:43:47 Sixty quid, David? #58No wonder he ran the Club so badly! John Keating 64 Posted 19/12/2024 at 13:51:04 I think the next 4 games, Chelsea, City, Forest and Bournemouth will dictate if Dyche goes in January or at the end of the season.These guys have shown total professionalism since talks began. They've had the boardroom set up in place since day one of their talks, if not before. I have no doubt they have already looked at the coaching and playing staff and will react when they see fit.This will not be an easy and/or quick fix but it would be great if the confirmation of new owners gave the squad a bit of a lift – especially with the festive season games coming thick and fast against top opposition. Barry Rathbone 65 Posted 19/12/2024 at 13:59:46 Steve @36, "Moshiri is walking away with £25 million from the £128 million he spent to buy the club and £450 million in shareholder loans."If this is correct, it completely reverses my opinion of Moshiri.The football business was completely beyond him but, if the above is true, we need to build a statue to the fella. Andy Crooks 66 Posted 19/12/2024 at 14:12:08 I'll second that, Barry! Paul Hewitt 67 Posted 19/12/2024 at 14:18:15 Barry @65. It is true, Moshiri has lost up to half a billion on the club. People may say it's his own fault and maybe it is. But with the new stadium and letting the club off with loans, I think we should show a little gratitude. Mike Price 68 Posted 19/12/2024 at 14:25:18 I believe Moshiri to be well-meaning but completely out of his depth. He was also clearly gullible and taken advantage of.He should be rightfully proud of delivering the new stadium and what finally appears to be, hopefully, the right owners.Let's pray this is the beginning of a blue phoenix rising from the ashes. Barry Rathbone 69 Posted 19/12/2024 at 14:28:40 Andy 66 and Paul 67I've got stuck into him more than most but I'm a great believer that everyone makes mistakes – it is how you deal with them that marks your character.I stand to be corrected and I may well have missed something here but, if Moshiri has taken such a monumental financial hit, I'd shake him by the hand and apologise for previous comments. Pat Kelly 70 Posted 19/12/2024 at 14:31:15 Does anyone know the Club's debt situation post takeover? Reported to be debt free? And does the Club own the new stadium or has it been financed by debt yet to be repaid? Just can't believe we have a clean slate. Jerome Shields 71 Posted 19/12/2024 at 14:42:48 Just Great News.Back to football at last.Maybe a little bit of off-field. Dave Abrahams 72 Posted 19/12/2024 at 15:28:44 Fred (53), Nice that the Echo praises the tireless efforts of Everton fans over the last few years especially those brilliant away fans.On the other hand, it stinks that they have never gone into detail on Kenwright's stay at the club as a shareholder, owner and chairman – no wonder when he had them in his pocket and they went along with his fantasy of being Everton's greatest ever supporter.No wonder that the Liverpool Echo is held in such low regard that it is has been bought less and less over the years. I read about the Mister Moshiri article on my iPad, by the way! Mark Murphy 73 Posted 19/12/2024 at 15:53:06 Whoa!! Hang on a minute!You've got an iPad, Dave??? Dave Abrahams 74 Posted 19/12/2024 at 16:00:25 Mark (73)Yes, but do me a favour, don't tell anyone but I go to my local library every day nearly and this nice kind lady librarian enters all my posts for me.What do you think would be a suitable Christmas present I could buy for her, cost not important! Cancel that bit about the cost — it's the thought that counts, right Mark? Mike Gaynes 75 Posted 19/12/2024 at 16:03:04 Was there white smoke from the Liver Building this morning? Brian Williams 76 Posted 19/12/2024 at 16:09:16 It's not an iPad he's got — it's an iDad, one of those Chinese knockoffs.Basically a notepad and a biro. 🙊 Pat Kelly 77 Posted 19/12/2024 at 16:15:39 Just read this in the new Executive Chairman's open letter:“We have provided an injection of capital to ensure the completion of the new stadium. The transaction has seen most of Everton's debt either converted to equity, repaid or refinanced on terms more favourable to the stability of the club.”Just how much debt has been refinanced isn't stated. Bill Gall 78 Posted 19/12/2024 at 16:24:04 Great Xmas present, but let's see how good it is going to be once the wrapping comes off. There is no doubt of them being a successful expanding business company, with just a slight negative in their handling of AS Roma.Their comments on Everton and their history and especially their supporters was a nice read, and here is hoping that, once they become more personally involved, they will really experience how much this club means to their supporters as you can't just write about it – you have to experience it both home and away. My hope for the New Year is stability from top to bottom, starting with a new Chairman and Board of Directors who understand how a Premier League club should be run, and bring in successful people in positions they are knowledgeable about to move the club forward. Tony Abrahams 79 Posted 19/12/2024 at 16:28:45 And he goes the local library to save on the leccy bill. Mike Gaynes 80 Posted 19/12/2024 at 16:47:35 Barry and Paul, just be aware that Moshiri's losses on Everton have not harmed his overall financial status. Per Forbes, his net worth is considerably higher today than when he bought the club. Steve Shave 81 Posted 19/12/2024 at 17:07:04 Colin @38, I completely agree, some defending Moshiri still because of the stadium. You are right, in the process of building that stadium, he did turn us into a laughing stock and I won't be defending him for that very reason. Spot on. Tony Abrahams 82 Posted 19/12/2024 at 17:41:42 When I look back at the Moshiri era, I will always look at his choice of chairman and CEO, and then his choice of manager and director of football.I don't think you need hindsight to realise they were all very bad appointments, especially when Moshiri then provided evidence that he was no more than a lackey when he then told us he didn't want Everton to take up too much of his time.It got progressively worse until it eventually got out of hand when our silent owner was sanctioned, and through our darkest times, the contradiction has been that the thing that was crippling us has probably turned out to be our saving grace.The new Everton Stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock would have never gone ahead without Usmanov's money, and Everton have needed a new stadium since the money wasn't really ringfenced when the Kings Dock project failed all those years ago. Brian Williams 83 Posted 19/12/2024 at 17:44:35 Tony, I don't think Moshiri chose the chairman, mate. It was the other way round. 😉 Jerome Shields 84 Posted 19/12/2024 at 17:57:25 Grateful for the money put in to Everton. Even part of it beyond the waste is bound to have been beneficial.If Kenwright had have continued without Moshiri coming in, Everton would have been in a worse state, with no stadium.I also think that a lot of the money lost was valueless, because of its source, tangible conversion to loans probably adding to its value. Those financing the loans made a great deal of money on high interest rates and probably had connections that benefited.So all may not be as it appears. Everton, once they manage the PSR limits, could be solid enough. Professionally run, with a new stadium, a clear direction at last is bound to have had a positive affect on the team performance. Also, they are getting rent from the Liver Building which is 700,000 sq ft empty. Barry Rathbone 85 Posted 19/12/2024 at 18:04:07 Mike @80,Surely increasing wealth opens the door to play hardball and hang on for better offers from suitors unknown at a date no one can predict.Unassailably, Moshiri tried and failed in his time… but at the last knocking, he has looked after us, I certainly hope so. Charles Brewer 86 Posted 19/12/2024 at 18:24:22 He was a hopeless owner, but I cannot find it in my heart to say anything bad about Moshiri as a person. He put an absolute fortune into the club, he got us possibly the best-sited stadium in the world, and he must have had a dreadful few years once he realised that not only didn't he have any idea how to run a football club, but that he was surrounded by charlatans, frauds, idiots and incompetents from whom he was entitled to get infinitely better performance. It was essentially like replacing Julius Caesar with Keir Starmer at the Battle of Alesia. Goggle-eyed incompetence personified, and at least Moshiri got out before complete disaster befell the club. Kim Vivian 87 Posted 19/12/2024 at 18:52:16 I have to say, I'm in Charles's camp (post #86). I'm glad to see the back of him and never jumped into the name-calling echo chamber, but I feel a little sorry for Moshiri who appears to have been the pawn of two equally despicable men. Somewhat subjective, that… but it's the way it looks to me. He obviously accrued his wealth by fair means or foul, and with whatever dubious allegiances, but will be remembered fondly by most I believe for delivering a truly iconic stadium with significant architectural merit. Football-wise, he should just have kept out of the way but made the biggest mistake of entrusting things to shhh... you know who. Perhaps he realised that so tried to get more involved.So a new dawn heralds. I am so pleased to finally see these headlines and maybe my poor conditioned (by me) sons can start seeing the Everton I truly know.UTFT and Friedkins! Tony Cunningham 88 Posted 19/12/2024 at 19:04:16 Pat Kelly, they are my questions too. If most of the debt and loans have been paid off, then does that mean we have a stadium that is pretty much paid for? Or is there something else that I'm missing?When Arsenal moved to The Emirates, they were straddled with annual payments to pay off the stadium. Will we or won't we have that? Surely we can't actually have a stadium pretty much paid for? Jim Potter 89 Posted 19/12/2024 at 19:07:27 Mr Moshiri was a conundrum to me.An accountant. Stereotypically a cautious type who understands profit and loss margins, avoids risk, sees opportunities, and provides solutions.A billionaire. Denotes he's pretty damn successful at his job and in business. What the heck kind of version of Mr Moshiri did we end up getting at Everton? Not many of the above professional qualities ever saw the light of day once he had our reins. He seemed to chuck the whole saddle out of the window and go bareback. Blindfolded.He appeared a rank amateur who was easily influenced by dodgy agents and any passing charlatan. I believe he genuinely did try to make us a force again, but his cunning plan manifested itself into a Carry On farce, without the laughs. His positive legacy is the stadium. For that, we have to thank him. But, I'm still lost as to where we are left debt-wise? Has Mr Moshiri written off hundreds of millions like I read on another site? Who will own the stadium? Everton FC or TFG?We can only hope that Mr Friedkin is the real deal and that he can get this particular phoenix to rise. It's about time. Peter Mills 90 Posted 19/12/2024 at 19:12:59 Dave #74, Why don't you just ask your librarian to show you how to dictate your thoughts into the phone? I'm sure we would enjoy your posts even more! Brent Stephens 91 Posted 19/12/2024 at 19:16:47 Remove your ear trumpet first, Dave. Phil Roberts 92 Posted 19/12/2024 at 19:19:38 Interesting how facts and perception are never good bedfellows.Looking at comments on other sites1. A fan since 1957,, , transferred them out of the club for a pittance of a fee, for example Ademola Lookman.£22,5m for a guy who scored 1 goal in 1024 minutes of premier league action.2. What is evertons rightful position in the PL then as they've been knocking around the bottom third for donkeys years. (I think he meant to write Everton's but we have to take pity on the uneducated thicko).Going backwards - 15th, 17th, 16th, (Donkey presumably born to proud parents), 10th, 12th, 8th, 8th, 7th, 11th, 11th (Moshiri buys in), 5th, 6th, 7th, 7th, 8th, 5thStep 1 - get back to the pre-Moshiri years.Step 2 - get back to the Kendall Mk I years Rob Halligan 93 Posted 19/12/2024 at 19:38:57 I think a special mention, and thanks, should go to Colin Chong, who for the past 18 months or so, has literally dragged our club through one turmoil after another, and somehow managed to keep our heads about 1 inch above water! He's had to deal with point deductions, do CEO duties, somehow keep the stadium build going, I guess having major input into the takeover negotiations, and god knows else he's had to put up with? The man deserves a medal and praise and thanks from all of us. 👏👏👏👏 Brent Stephens 94 Posted 19/12/2024 at 19:41:42 Rob, hear hear. Agree with every word. And not a moment of showboating. He deserves to stay on. Brian Williams 95 Posted 19/12/2024 at 19:52:48 Yeh, fully agree.Well in, Colin.👏👏👏👏 Paul Ferry 96 Posted 19/12/2024 at 19:54:38 Sean Kearns: 42: ‘I'm told from a reliable source that Graeme Potter is to be our next manager… he was approached months ago but said he wouldn't take it until the takeover is complete. Dyche knows and has downed tools and Seamus has been giving the team talks. Just what I've heard from somebody on the inside… ‘.Dont worry anyone and dont give this pile of shit any credibility. Look whos posted it. Im cracking up here: ‘reliable source, ‘somebody on the inside. Its sad bordering on pathos when someone craves attention so much. Hang on, incoming.Breaking news: 48: Dan Ashworth likely incoming tooRemember this is the poster who told us that the North Wharf Road brigade have ‘sacrificed Everton to appease lower league clubs for years and years of unfairly redistribution of money. This poster told us that we would be put in the Championship.Hey SK, have you managed to unearth any Friedkin moles on here yet?So, thats Potter to replace Dyche who has downed tools meaning that Seamus now gives the team talks and Ashworth will have a plush office in Finch Farm any day now.(and some post: ‘Dont ruin it Sean! or ‘Sean @ 42, my happiness has just dipped if that is true.No one has posted more conspiracy theories and, quite frankly, bollocks, on here than this fella with his ‘reliable source and all.Hint: heres the big clue so big its bigger than the biggest thing on this earth:Sean Kearns 47: ‘No questions please. Paul Ferry 97 Posted 19/12/2024 at 20:09:55 Steve Shave: 15: "As for Moshiri….I don't want to hear his name again, one of the worst things to happen to our club. Foolish man."One of the largest pieces of mean-spirited rubbish I have read on here. Moshiri has done far more to make our club better than you or me.I completely agree with Paul Hewitt, Barry Rathbone, and others, that the gift of the new stadium and the reported gift (is 'gift' the right word?) of somewhere in the region of half-a-billion quid (he even sold the club to what all seem to agree is a sound new buyer after his self-induced 777 travesty). I will chuckle for a long time to come about lighting the Liver Building in bright proud and defiant blue.And I don't care how often Mike Gaynes keeps on telling us that Moshiri is richer now than when ‘he' bought the club (good luck to him) or how often Colin Glassar reminds us of the catalogue of mistakes and downright insulting decisions/choices that I/we have memorised and are the reason why I for one am made up that he is gone.I don't like Moshiri. I'm glad he's gone. But that will not stop me giving him a hefty slap on the back to say thanks for his parting gift of a world-class stadium (it's not just a new stadium; it's an astonishing stadium in an astonishing location) and half-a-billion quid. Paul Birmingham 98 Posted 19/12/2024 at 20:19:33 Great news, Christmas come early from an Everton perspective!Hopefully the start of a new era with lessons from the past learned, and the recovery of Everton Football Club has started.UTFTs! Paul Ferry 99 Posted 19/12/2024 at 20:22:52 Hear, hear, Paul! Andy Crooks 100 Posted 19/12/2024 at 20:25:27 Yes, Paul, I find Sean having reliable "sources" to be, well, as likely as there being a Loch Ness monster. What his post is, is conjecture that might, in a few weeks, make him look like he's "in the know" – or not. In which case we will be duty-bound to remind him.As far as Seamus doing the team talks, not just assisting, but replacing a sulking Dyche, I find it, not conjecture, but utter made-up bollocks. However, I will take it back when the "reliable sources" are named! Raymond Fox 101 Posted 19/12/2024 at 20:34:24 We need to start by staying up this season, that's not a given at this time.There's never a dull moment at this club; I think we would get bored if there was not a crisis going on.The Friedkin Group have some more big decisions to make. Paul Ferry 102 Posted 19/12/2024 at 20:40:08 Good post Andy. We will see what we will see! Have you bought your Potter/Ashworth t-shirt yet mate? And, like you, I wonder who is in charge of the team for Chelsea on Sunday? I wonder if SK could ask his inside 'reliable source'? Rob Halligan 103 Posted 19/12/2024 at 20:45:30 Paul, SK did say “Please no questions”! So what does that tell you? David McMullen 104 Posted 19/12/2024 at 21:05:03 New Era. Up the Friedkin Toffees. Merry Christmas, ya filthy animals. Robert Williams 106 Posted 19/12/2024 at 21:29:46 So, are we all agreed that we construct a statue of Moshiri at Bramley-Moore Dock?? Steve Shave 107 Posted 20/12/2024 at 00:02:01 Robert, that's funny! James Flynn 108 Posted 19/12/2024 at 00:03:50 Ashford? We'd be his 3rd club in 7 months. Sean Kearns 109 Posted 19/12/2024 at 00:05:33 The club moles may very well be the ones who are pressing me on how I acquired such information 🧐 just know that I know…. but don't worry, I'll never post here again. You bunch of miserable, looking-for-an-argument buggers make it boring here… As men of the world, you all very well know that I can't say who I heard it from, for obvious reasons. And hey it may not even be true. But just know it was somebody high up. I'm not assed at all if anyone believes me, just thought some might be interested or think it was interesting like me… I put money on it so I hope it is true. 😂 Potter at 5/2, fuck it. Steve Shave 110 Posted 20/12/2024 at 00:13:07 Paul, I'm mean spirited to suggest Moshiri has been a stain on this club and it's great history?!! The guy is a fucking tool, absolute moron. Total melt. He got us this beautiful stadium, yes, and he put his money where his mouth is, yes. However, he frequently embarrassed us with his sound bites, his calls to Jim White. He got us tied up with the dodgy oligarch, he hired and fired like no other before him. He hired DOFs and went over their heads, he let Kenwright stay on and the polarisations of their agendas nearly ruined the club. He pimped us out to 777 Partners which would have ruined us. He got us into trouble with PSR and points deducted. He did deals with his agent mates against the wishes at times of the DoFs he employed. He fucked things up so bad, he's not put a penny in for 2-3 years and we have only by the grace of God not been relegated or in administration. I think I am perfectly in my right to say I am pleased to see the back of the foolish prick. I never want to hear his name again and I am amazed people on here continue to give him a free ride because of the stadium. Svein-Roger Jensen 111 Posted 20/12/2024 at 00:15:04 Parting is such sweet sorrow… Sean Kearns 112 Posted 20/12/2024 at 00:16:23 Is Paul Ferry really the Mosh?? Now that is a conspiracy!!! Mike Gaynes 113 Posted 20/12/2024 at 02:54:38 Rob #93, agreed, and for those reasons, I hope he's offered an opportunity to stay on. I assume that will be up to the new CEO rather than Friedkin, because a good owner picks his top executive and then empowers him/her to make those calls, but I'd say Chong's earned it a hundred times over. Christine Foster 114 Posted 20/12/2024 at 03:18:15 Hey, Dave 73, it's an iPad or its equivalent Android tablet, the Amdread. The bloke on Greaty said it had plenty of Rum.. and a big box so plenty of storage! Kieran Kinsella 115 Posted 20/12/2024 at 03:22:16 Friedkin has been in charge for hours and no sign of improvement on or off the pitch. Another charlatan. Friedkin out. Christine Foster 116 Posted 20/12/2024 at 03:27:40 Afraid I am in the camp that puts Moshiri down as a romantic fool, easily parted with his money by a con-man of epic stature. His legacy will forever be the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock, a folly no doubt, bankrolled probably by a friend with high-ranked Russian mates. Who knows, Putin allegedly loved the Beatles.So "Thank you," Mr Moshiri, without you, we would be dead broke and in League One.. playing in a car park in Kirkby. It may not have worked out the way you wanted, but your saving grace is the stadium, the best of Four Graces. After two or three glasses, I may even toast you... Nah... whatever. Steve Brown 117 Posted 20/12/2024 at 03:42:41 Mike @ 75, ‘was there white smoke from the Liver Building this morning?'Yes, and showers of red tears in Southport, Tunbridge Wells and Oslo. Cry me a river, Kopites, as the times they are a-changing. Jay Harris 118 Posted 20/12/2024 at 05:29:38 I doubt Moshiri would pass a fit and proper directors test again but, as the New Year beckons, off with the old and onwards and upwards with the new.The Kenwright chapter is well and truly finished. Peter Moore 119 Posted 20/12/2024 at 06:13:02 It seems clear to me that Moshiri was, like his buddy, Bill, just an actor. Usmanov lent him the billion quid as proved by BBC Panorama, as Usmanov at the time owned 30% of Arsenal so could not do the transaction himself. Abramovic was/is a peer of Usmanov. The Ambramovic style of ownership of spend spend spend and hire and fire worked at Chelsea. It did not work here. PSR coming in and the sanctioning of Usmanov fucked us. The past is the past. Thank you, Alisher, for the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock. Your employee appeared an embarrassing clown, but he had a good coach in his lovely pal.Onward Evertonians. May stability and proper stewardship be the new way going forward. UTFT. NSNO. Eric Myles 120 Posted 20/12/2024 at 06:19:52 The Premier League Board has approved The Friedkin Group's 98.8 per cent acquisition of Everton Football ClubHang on, Moshiri only owned 94.1% of the Club,; where did the other 4.7%come from? Did Jenny sell her shares too?Andrew #54, why Toyota? Let's go upmarket, Lexus. No red in its logo either.On the subject of Colin Chong, remember he's a construction project manager who was thrust into the interim CEO position alongside his main job of overseeing the completion of the stadium. He may not be best suited to being a member of a functional board, either by preference or experience. Running a football club is a long way from project manging in construction.It would be like someone who ran a charity shop suddenly becoming a CEO of a football club. Oh, hang on… Not belittling Colin Chong in any way, he's done a great job in uncertain times, but may just crave a bit of uncertainty that he's more comfortable with, like a resource-loaded Primavera Key Milestone Schedule. Construction gets in your blood and it's difficult to get out of it.Given how iconic our new stadium is, I wouldn't be surprised to see him overseeing construction of future Olympic or World Cup venues for a host nation.But if he does decide the blue in his blood is stronger than the construction and wants to stay with us, maybe that could work. Duncan McDine 121 Posted 20/12/2024 at 06:25:18 Peter Moore @119. This is exactly as I see it, but careful, there are still plenty who regard this sensible explanation a conspiracy theory. Anyway, the Uzbek and his useless puppet thankfully have nothing to do with the club any more. All we can do is hope that the new people are clever enough to navigate the constraints of PSR a lot better. Mike Gaynes 122 Posted 20/12/2024 at 06:46:20 Jay #118, of course he could. He had sufficient funds and was clearly of good character. There is no advance test for competence.Eric #120, operational management is a set of skills that is readily transferrable across industries, as our new owner has shown in his car dealerships, resort ownerships, golf developments, Hollywood movie productions and massive conservation projects. Colin Chong has demonstrated considerable adaptability under harrowing financial circumstances and might well be viewed by Friedkin's CEO as proven under fire. And his Everton credentials go way back – I didn't know that he built the Park Stand 30 years ago. James Hughes 123 Posted 20/12/2024 at 07:00:20 Paul #9, Agree with all of that, my friend. He has left us with a bright future. Steve Shave 124 Posted 20/12/2024 at 07:20:54 Peter @119, well said. More eloquently put than my earlier foul mouthed rant. I was irked by being told I was “mean-spirited” because I wasn't displaying enough gratitude to the foolish puppet. Onwards. Benjamin Dyke 125 Posted 19/12/2024 at 07:38:22 Sean Dyche has undoubtedly had extremely difficult circumstances with the off-field dramas, little money to spend, points deductions, loss of star players and much much more.But I am still left with a feeling that there is a coach out there who could get a better tune out of the squad we've got – impossible to know rationally but it's there... He's also ridiculously well paid (£5M!!) so I have no sympathy for him if we appoint a new coach, but it's probably best to keep him until the end of the season unless we dive-bomb and are in serious trouble at the end of January. Steve Shave 126 Posted 20/12/2024 at 07:53:35 Benjamin, it's a tough one, isn't it? The football has been so poor, the dithering and stubbornness so infuriating. The low-possession game makes us one of the more awful teams to watch in the Premier League. We deserve better. However, we are picking up points. When Dyche's job has been questioned in the past, he has rallied and strung results together in one of his patchy runs; our new ownership might see us perform well over the coming weeks. Sacking him now could be risky, I'd love us to get Sarri but how long will it take to implement his style? What if we can't in time? I think we back Thelwell and he is the continuity which will bridge Dyche with the next, more visionary manager decision. I'd like to see what Thelwell could do with a decent budget, Brent Stephens 127 Posted 20/12/2024 at 08:07:09 Eric #120 "Running a football club is a long way from project managing in construction". It certainly is, I guess. Or a long way from managing the financial side of a company; or the HR side of a company; or any other functional area in a company?Surely, as people step up a level in organisations, almost by definition they are stepping into areas they have not managed before. The management accountant or auditor or tax specialist into the overall financial director role. The recruitment or salaries specialist into the overall HR director role. etc etc.And similarly from those functional director roles into a CEO role or similar? Eric Myles 128 Posted 20/12/2024 at 08:52:42 Brent #127, but in those professions you mention, the step up in role is within their knowledge base and a natural progression.So if Colin Chong was stepping up as CEO of a construction company, I don't see he'd have any issues. But a leap of faith into another profession, I don't know, maybe he'd be up to it or like to take it on after his current experience as an interim.But I'd doubt he's being considered for the CEO role by TFG myself. Barry Cowling 129 Posted 20/12/2024 at 09:03:41 I have to say that I am not comfortable reading some of the vindictive stuff about Moshiri. I have never met him so can't comment on him but I do see him as well meaning; he has not come out of this well at all. But, it could all have been so different: if the Russian sanctions had not happened, then we most likely would be playing regular European football with a big-name manager. Timing is always crucial and we were hit more than most with the sanctioning, but maybe that's just Everton for you. I still can't get over our European ban when we were riding high all those years ago, thanks to a few Liverpool thugs. Andrew Merrick 130 Posted 20/12/2024 at 11:10:22 Eric 120,Mmm… The Lexus Stadium has a nice ring to it ...classy..Maybe with a blue illuminated logo? hmmI shared the Toyota thought as it seemed a likely sponsor due to the strong existing ties with the Friedkin family. John Keating 131 Posted 20/12/2024 at 12:02:15 Would it not be possible, before the change next season, for our new owners to call it the Franklin Stadium and pay a billion a season for a 10-year naming rights deal?At the very least it would piss Masters off! Andy Crooks 132 Posted 20/12/2024 at 20:16:48 Sean @109, you raise our hopes by saying you will be never post again (Oh Lord be praised) then, two posts later, you're back with another beaut. By the way, your "And hey it might not even be true" comment is beyond wonderful. Such a shame you have left us. Still, as a "club mole", I feel safer now. Colin Glassar 133 Posted 20/12/2024 at 20:36:05 Paul Ferry 97, Hitler left Berlin with the Olympiastadion. Are Berliners supposed to give Adolf a “slap on the back” for that?The man took us to the brink of oblivion, like Adolf and his 1945 Götterdammerung finale, only good fortune saved us from the criminal incompetence of Moshiri. John Wilson 134 Posted 23/12/2024 at 12:21:56 We get gaslighted, Moshiri walks away with nothing. We get brainwashed that all the rules of commercial investment go out of the window. Bullshit! Moshiri is tied to the club financially. He hasn't written off his loans, he has equity in the club. Without further ado, I give you Grok AI: My question to Grok: "Everton current debt liability. Consider Friedkin purchase and Moshiri rights to long-term equity. Forecast how much Everton with stadium will be worth in the future years and will Moshiri get his money back?"Grok: "Current Debt Liability Post-Friedkin Purchase:After the Friedkin Group (TFG) completed its acquisition of Everton Football Club, the club's debt landscape has significantly shifted:Total Debt Reduction: Most of Everton's previous debts have been either converted into equity, repaid, or refinanced under more favorable terms. The deal saw:Rights and Media Funding (RMF): This debt of £225 million was settled by TFG.777 Partners/A-CAP: The £200 million owed to 777 Partners was taken over by A-CAP, with an agreement for £66 million to be paid upfront, and the rest potentially converted into equity or rescheduled.Bluesky Capital: Farhad Moshiri's £451 million shareholder loans were converted into equity to comply with new Premier League regulations on Associated Party Transactions (APT).Metro Bank: A remaining debt of £11.25 million, but this is now the last significant external loan on the books.Debt to TFG: TFG itself has become the primary creditor by providing loans to Everton to manage these previous debts, now holding a significant stake in the club's future financial obligations.Moshiri's Rights to Long-term Equity:Moshiri has effectively relinquished direct control over Everton by converting his shareholder loans into equity as part of the Friedkin deal. This conversion was necessitated by the impending Premier League rules that would have impacted how these loans were treated under Profitabiliy and Sustainability Rules (PSR). This move signifies Moshiri accepting a considerable financial loss on his investment but keeps him with equity in the club, albeit not in a controlling capacity.Future Valuation of Everton with Stadium:Immediate Impact: The new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock, with a capacity of around 53,000, significantly boosts Everton's potential revenue through matchday income, naming rights, and increased commercial opportunities. Long-term Forecast: Short-term (2-5 years): With the stadium operational from the 2025-26 season, Everton's valuation is expected to rise. Assuming the club maintains or improves its competitive standing in the Premier League, the club's value could easily exceed £1 billion, considering:Increased matchday revenue due to higher capacity and modern facilities.Potential lucrative naming rights deals, which could be one of the highest in Europe, as suggested by Kieran Maguire.Enhanced sponsorship and commercial deals due to the new infrastructure.Medium to Long-term (5-10+ years): Continued stability and success on the pitch could see Everton's valuation climb further, potentially reaching £1.5 to £2 billion, especially if the club qualifies for European competitions regularly.The stadium's full financial benefits, including tourism, events, and community use, would solidify Everton's financial health, making it an even more attractive asset.Will Moshiri Get His Money Back?Direct Financial Return: Moshiri will not likely recover his full £750 million investment directly through the Friedkin deal. His decision to convert loans into equity means his financial recovery is now tied to the club's success and future valuation increases.Equity Appreciation: If Everton's value appreciates significantly as forecasted, Moshiri could see a return on his investment through the appreciation of his equity stake. However, selling this stake would depend on market conditions, Everton's performance, and the willingness of future investors to buy into Everton.Legacy vs Financial Recovery: Moshiri might view his involvement more as securing Everton's long-term legacy rather than purely as a financial venture. His return, if any, would be incremental and tied to the club's growth under new stewardship.In conclusion, while Moshiri won't see an immediate return of his capital, the long-term prospects for Everton, especially with the new stadium, could potentially offer a pathway for some financial recovery or at least mitigate his losses if the club experiences sustained success. Michael Kenrick 136 Posted 23/12/2024 at 13:30:32 Grok or Crok?As with most AI responses, they need careful fact-checking. You'd expect someone who boasts on here about his legal credentials to know and do that… or perhaps not?"This move… keeps Moshiri… with equity in the club, albeit not in a controlling capacity."Really? Yes, Moshiri converted his loans into equity in the form of 150,250 new Everton shares. But he didn't keep any of them. He sold them all to The Friedkin Group."Moshiri could see a return on his investment through the appreciation of his equity stake."Er, no. I don't think so. His equity stake has been reduced to zero, zilch, nada, nowt. Unless there is some unpublished agreement as part of the Friedkin deal that gives Moshiri additional money down the road, he will have taken one absolutely massive hit on his investment. John Wilson 137 Posted 23/12/2024 at 13:58:25 Michael, 😆 You clearly do not understand the maxim equity follows law and or negative equity (Moshiri's current) rises with success of Everton. I said that all along, didn't I. I don't require an answer. By the way, Simon Jordan and Peterboro's owner said that Moshiri will get his money back or more. Or do you think Friedkin would have purchased Everton for a bargain of the century? Friedkin knows if he pays those loans off or make Moshiri current equity towards buoyancy and in the longer term, significant equity. I reckon Moshiri will get at the very least £500M back. We are talking regeneration of water front property and generation of business and economy notwithstanding the new stadium for commercial functioning and gate revenues. It's logical, actually. Brian Williams 138 Posted 23/12/2024 at 14:22:08 Just goes to show you that you shouldn't believe everything you read on t'internet, AI or not. Ed Prytherch 139 Posted 23/12/2024 at 15:12:10 Mike 122. Transferability of business skills is not guaranteed. I worked for Westinghouse Electric Corp when the shareholders brought in a CEO from Pepsi. Within a few years, Westinghouse existed in name only. Many of my colleagues had been fired and the ones that survived were then working for the likes of Northrup Grumman or ASEA Brown Boveri. I ended up working for Toshiba. But the shareholders were happy. John Wilson 140 Posted 23/12/2024 at 15:19:49 I next asked Grok AI a question on Friedkin restructuring debt. By the way, Friedkin paid with his own money €1M for AS Roma. He hasn't done that with us. Restructuring the debt could imply security for him against Everton going into administration. In real terms, he has only paid Moshiri £40M upfront. AI answer to debt restructuring: Debt Restructuring Explained:Debt restructuring is the process of reorganizing the terms of existing loans or debts to improve the financial health of the debtor (in this case, Everton Football Club). Here's how it typically works:Negotiation: The debtor (Everton) negotiates with creditors (banks or bondholders like JP Morgan) to alter the terms of the debt. This can involve:Extending Maturity Dates: Pushing back the deadline for repayment.Reducing Interest Rates: Lowering the cost of borrowing to make repayments more manageable.Changing Repayment Schedules: Converting a lump-sum repayment into periodic payments or vice versa.Debt-to-Equity Swaps: Converting debt into equity, where creditors receive shares in the company instead of cash repayments.New Debt Issuance: Sometimes, new debt is issued at more favorable terms to pay off old debt, often with the involvement of a financial institution like JP Morgan.Debt Consolidation: Combining multiple debts into one loan with a single, lower interest rate.Hypothetical Scenario: Everton and JP MorganSelling a Receivable vs. Restructuring: In this scenario, Friedkin isn't necessarily selling a receivable. Instead, restructuring involves negotiating new terms for existing debts. However, if part of the plan includes selling receivables (like future income streams from the new stadium or broadcasting rights) to raise cash for debt repayment, that would be more akin to asset securitization, where future revenue is bundled and sold as a security.Financial Gains:Friedkin: Reduced Interest Expenses: Lower interest rates mean less money paid out in interest, freeing up cash for other investments or operational needs.Extended Repayment Period: More time to generate revenue before large repayments are due, improving cash flow.Equity Conversion: If some debt is converted to equity, Friedkin could see a reduction in immediate financial liabilities at the cost of diluting ownership but potentially benefiting from future growth.JP Morgan: Potential for Higher Interest Over Time: Even if rates are lowered, they might still be profitable for JP Morgan, especially if they believe in Everton's long-term prospects.Relationship Building: Assisting in such a significant restructuring can solidify JP Morgan's relationship with Friedkin, potentially leading to more business in the future.Asset-backed Loans: If the restructuring involves loans against future revenues or assets, JP Morgan secures a position where their lending is backed by tangible assets or revenue streams.Commercial Benefits to Owners vs. Debt Liability to Everton:Commercial Benefits for Owners (Friedkin):Financial Flexibility: Restructuring can free up capital for reinvestment into the team, infrastructure, or other strategic initiatives.Risk Reduction: By restructuring, Friedkin could mitigate the risk of the club going into administration due to unmanageable debt.Valuation Increase: A healthier balance sheet can potentially increase the club's market value, beneficial for Friedkin if he considers selling in the future or using the club's equity as leverage for other business ventures.Debt Liability to Everton:Long-term Debt: While restructuring might make repayments more manageable, it doesn't eliminate debt; it might extend it, meaning Everton will be paying off this debt for longer, potentially affecting future financial strategies.Interest Payments: Even at lower rates, interest will still need to be paid, which could strain cash flow, especially if revenue projections don't meet expectations.Covenants and Conditions: New loans might come with covenants or conditions that restrict Everton's management in terms of spending or strategic decisions, potentially limiting operational freedom.In conclusion, debt restructuring is a strategic tool to manage financial burdens but involves a balancing act where the benefits to the owner (Friedkin) in terms of cash flow and club management are weighed against the club's ongoing financial obligations and the terms set by creditors like JP Morgan. Michael Kenrick 141 Posted 23/12/2024 at 15:30:17 John, You shouldn't need me to remind you of these words the great man himself wrote regarding the maxims of equity:Apart from a vigorous life in law examinations at the pen of weaker candidates, most maxims do not today greatly figure in judicial language, and their principal harm is, by their banality, to reduce manifestations of justice to the level of simple chatter, and thereby to devalue the underlying conscience.Moshiri doesn't have any current equity in Everton FC. What he had, he sold to The Friedkin Group (aka Roundhouse Capital Holdings Ltd). Any increase in value, short or long term, will accrue to them and not to Moshiri. Dave Abrahams 142 Posted 23/12/2024 at 15:55:51 Peter (90), I asked the librarian to show me how to dictate my thoughts into my IPad not knowing she could read them. After 2 minutes, she called the police. I just got out this morning after 3 days of bleedin' interrogation. They'll let me know when I'm up in court. Thanks a lot, Peter! John Daley 143 Posted 23/12/2024 at 16:36:05 Link Mike Gaynes 144 Posted 23/12/2024 at 17:57:27 Thanks for the chuckle, John D. Personally, I thought Grok was an animated movie character. Paul Ferry 145 Posted 23/12/2024 at 19:24:27 If - IF- John Wilson has any legal training or practice in law (although I have a faint recall of him mentioning a degree, 46 times), I'm breathing a deep and long sigh of relief that I'm on this side of the Atlantic. What are you thinking ought to be the main lines of our defence, Mr Wilson? Hang on, I'll just run it through Grok. Steve Hogan 146 Posted 23/12/2024 at 20:37:29 I've a burning question. What sort of occupation/job allows the same people to devote so much time to have a continuing dialogue on ToffeeWeb?Seriously, I dip in and out over a 2/3 day period, but some contributors are on here every day, several times a day.Obsession or addictive, or a bit of both? Paul Ferry 147 Posted 23/12/2024 at 21:10:57 Fair number on here are dead old Steve H and hang out in libraries like Dave Abrahams or do jobs around the house all day when not sitting in pricey comfy armchairs with footrests: Dave Abrahams (92) Brent Stephens (78) Don Alexander (85) Brian Williams (82) Derek Knox (83) Christine Foster (88) Sam Hoare (77) Andy Crooks (39: old in Northern Ireland), Pete Mills (75ish) Neil Copeland (77) Mike Gaynes (75)And there are some youngens like me who, like many in these times, work at/from home. In my case, I write, so I sit here on my own with no one watching me and no one to be honest to answer to except myself. By the way, does anyone have any inkling why we have not see Jamie Crowley (64) on here for so long? Steve Hogan 148 Posted 23/12/2024 at 21:16:23 Ahhh, so that's it Paul. Merely ghost's from Xmas past. That explains it. Brian Williams 149 Posted 23/12/2024 at 21:17:56 Work? What the fuck is work?That's something I have my staff do.And PF you're lucky you're half a world away, you young whipper snapper. John Wilson 150 Posted 24/12/2024 at 08:22:58 Paul Ferry @47. Everton get out of this mess by regeneration of Bramley-Moore Dock in terms of waterfront property that will inevitably increase value; value appreciation and create immediate to long-term economic growth; jobs, valuation appreciating. Bramley-Moore Dock is the golden dust, but right now is a glorified building site. Everton with Bramley-Moore Dock is capable of bringing in much more money than Goodison Park, as we all know. Grok AI states financial year 2022-23 brought in £172M. Revenue could increase when the new stadiium is operational to as much as £1M a game or £50M a year. Currently it's £0.59M, or £590k per game. Valuation and resale value rests on its commercial viability. It is currently in negative equity, meaning the debts Everton owes, presumably circa some £600M. Lurking around relegation decreases value so we need to invest in players to keep us around mid-table and stability in debt-to-income ratio management. This is why Friedkin uses the term 'stability', it's an allusion to the debt state of Everton. I think restructuring Everton's debt to JP Morgan limits his liability to Everton, he is not going to pay off debts per se as the threat of relegation is immediate and the threat of administration rests on the success of the new stadium. Friedkin took Everton probably for future value which I reckon could be doubled in 2/3 years, so potentially up to £2B, ergo back in equity: the difference between debt and market value of Everton with assets, ie the new stadium. I think Moshiri will get most of his money back as he didn't wipe away his interests in Everton per se, he just transferred his interests to equity: shares based on forecast success. When Everton is stable and if projected value of appreciation, say £2B, is reached, Friedkin will either pay off the £600M debts and convert to equity, where he will make around £1B in profit, or keep Everton, and sell Roma. So all Everton need to do is make Everton successful and thus the administration threat disappears, and keep the club in mid-table, with a view to reaching European or Champions League places. Everton could sell the new Everton Stadium and move to a bigger stadium. It could be just a business investment as it is a small stadium in terms of its 53,000 capacity. It will need at least a 70,000 capacity to compete with the Top 6. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb