Season › 2024-25 › News Everton looking to buy Nelson Dock Michael Kenrick 14/03/2025 51comments | Jump to last Everton have begun negotiations to buy Nelson Dock, which is located next to Bramley-Moore Dock. Everton's interim chief executive, Colin Chong, told delegates at MIPIM property conference in the south of France about TFG's plans to expand ownership of the adjacent dock that is located immediately to the south of Bramley-Moore Dock – an area he said he has always had 'envious eyes' on. He said Everton's new owners The Friedkin Group have “tasked him with looking for a sports-led redevelopment that could be accommodated on Nelson Dock and maybe even further if we can get the right partners to invest.” Negotiations for the club to acquire Nelson Dock from current owners, Peel Holdings, are now underway. Reader Comments (51) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Stephen Davies 1 Posted 14/03/2025 at 15:02:46 Everton in talks to buy Nelson Dock. Steve Hogan 2 Posted 14/03/2025 at 15:15:35 Stephen (@1),Never rated Nelson tbh, we need strengthening in other areas in my opinion. Ian Bennett 3 Posted 14/03/2025 at 15:38:27 Some fascinating quotes from Colin Chong speaking at the annual property industry conference MIPIM, in Cannes, this week.“Our new ownership has tasked me with looking for a sports-led redevelopment that could be accommodated on Nelson Dock, and maybe even further if we can get the right partners to invest… we'll hopefully have some information back in the next month or two”Whilst it has been previously reported that Goodison could be retained to host the Ladies team, Chong has confirmed that this looks to be ‘most likely', with a ‘deconstruction' favoured over demolition. Colin Glassar 4 Posted 14/03/2025 at 16:31:17 We should buy the River Mersey and claim exclusive rights over it. That would really piss our neighbours off.This (Nelson Dock) buy is a brilliant idea and just emphasises the fact that, we own this city!! Ian Wilkins 5 Posted 14/03/2025 at 16:32:46 We should have been buying or taking options to buy on a lot of land surrounding BMD at Day 1. Controlling what goes on around the stadium and having a significant financial stake in it. Dennis Stevens 6 Posted 14/03/2025 at 16:39:54 Wow! A picture of BMD back before the stadium was built. Brian Wilkinson 7 Posted 14/03/2025 at 16:54:58 I was thinking that myself, Dennis, thought my eyes were playing up on the photo. Andrew Merrick 8 Posted 14/03/2025 at 17:07:13 Wow, TFG are big players.Sounds very promising, especially if the transport links are developed too.I notice the OS has posted travelling info for the next test event at BMD, there is obviously a long way to go, but giving fans best travel info and options is a must for the time being. Si Pulford 9 Posted 14/03/2025 at 17:10:47 Interested to see what a ‘sports led redevelopment is!? Any ideas…? Dennis Stevens 10 Posted 14/03/2025 at 17:11:36 Snooker club, Si? Danny O'Neill 11 Posted 14/03/2025 at 17:14:11 Only if all of the tables have blue velvet Dennis!Positive move. The start of the much needed development of the area outside of building a stunning stadium.We built this city in 1878.We're rebuilding this city on water and sand!! Jay Harris 12 Posted 14/03/2025 at 17:47:32 Football themed hotel, restaurants and bars including a sports bar with pool, snooker and darts in anticipation of the population growth of the 10 streets developments and the time Evertonians will take to get away from BMD. Sean Randles 13 Posted 14/03/2025 at 17:47:38 Can we buy the sewage works next door as well and build on that too. Liam Mogan 14 Posted 14/03/2025 at 17:49:31 Having visited a few grounds around Europe, I was surprised that ours didn't include a museum or visitor type center. Most of them do nowadays. Visitors go on ground tour, museum and then spend about 50-100 quid in shop. With all the tourists visiting the city, seemed a no brainer to me. Dennis Stevens 15 Posted 14/03/2025 at 18:12:49 Absotively, Liam! Steve Shave 16 Posted 14/03/2025 at 18:20:21 Colin @4: "We should buy the river Mersey and claim exclusive rights over it. That would really piss our neighbours off". Yes, mate, and pour a shit ton of blue dye into it while we are at it! :) David West 17 Posted 14/03/2025 at 18:24:18 Massive carpark? Free for Blues — £50 per hour to RS?? Christine Foster 18 Posted 14/03/2025 at 18:25:28 I reckon it will be an indoor sports stadium complex with an adjacent hotel. On top of that, an entertainment and hotel complex.. Steve Shave 19 Posted 14/03/2025 at 18:34:34 To be fair, there is probably room for some sort of sporting complex as well as a large car park. We are going to need all the transport resources we can get. Craig Scott 20 Posted 14/03/2025 at 18:51:39 Don't fill it all in. Just build a perimeter of bars, eateries, shops, and an entertainment plaza around the outside of an internal waterway for fans, tourists and visitors to enjoy. Danny O'Neill 21 Posted 14/03/2025 at 18:54:51 With Paddy's Day approaching, talk of dying rivers made me think of Chicago.I don't know the exact date in 1878 when St Domingo's was formed, but every year, mark the occasion by dying the Dock and the Mersey Royal Blue. Light up the birds blue (The Bird is Blue), light displays and fireworks, but only blue and white. Like my Christmas tree every year.Okay, I'm getting carried away, but in seriousness, this is positive and the blue tide is coming. Liam Mogan 22 Posted 14/03/2025 at 19:01:54 If they did build a car park there, I think it would still be a nightmare getting in and out with basically one single carriage road. Robert Tressell 23 Posted 14/03/2025 at 19:05:16 I'd rather we bought some new players — but this may also prove to be a good idea. Colin Glassar 24 Posted 14/03/2025 at 19:47:19 Steve 16, I was going to propose that as well. Really make the Mersey, Royal Blue. Raymond Fox 25 Posted 14/03/2025 at 20:08:45 Seems like a very good Idea to buy if it happens.Who knows what they could do with it. Paul Kossoff 26 Posted 14/03/2025 at 20:23:22 If our architect fan of heritage committee would have put two fingers up to them, we wouldn't have wasted space outside our new ground. With fucking false canals and tram lines with trees and virtual nothing to do out side the stadium. The ground is three sides water – what the fuck do we need a canal for? Oh it's so the fans can have something to look at. Jesus, give me a break, the club needs to make as much money as possible and to ain't going to do that with trees, canals, and bloody tram lines, oh and the wall outside the ground looks so out of place – it's ridiculous.Oh and no parking either. Yes, the stadium is fantastic but we have lost an opportunity to make money outside of match days. Hope we get a different architect in if we buy the other dock or we will end up with… let's see, um, I know, a boating lake! Robert Williams 27 Posted 14/03/2025 at 21:16:04 Anyone think the Dock will be used for water borne transport, like the London Ferries to and from BMD. Also what Craig S says at 20. Ian Bennett 28 Posted 14/03/2025 at 22:23:59 The site is a way of adding football 365 days a year, add infrastructure, and narrow the gap to the city centre.Transport links need sorting out, and this will support it, alongside hotels, shops and apartments.Could it be a new smaller stadium for youth or women's football, or an indoor arena to rival the Co-op arena. The Ethihad area has seen serious development in a poor area of Manchester.If they're serious about a £5B investment in Boston Celtics, this doesn't look too outlandish. Steve Jones 29 Posted 14/03/2025 at 22:59:41 Can the dock be filled in or does it need a water channel left? Pity we couldnt have bought both at the start and built a bigger stadium straddling bothNelson dock could support a hotel sports complex with a multi use arena for boxing, darts,, WWE, concerts, basketball etc Ralph Basnett 30 Posted 15/03/2025 at 04:01:44 Sports hotel with bars and restaurants away from the paying guests and a first floor huge gym for all year round income. I couldnt see any other sports being attracted other than the hotel having a huge room for darts, wedding receptions, world table tennis championships etc.Would not make sense to have another smaller stadium for the womens team, they dont fill Walton Park.GP should be flattened to provide housing, this will also help the businesses that will lose the football trade. Alan J Thompson 31 Posted 15/03/2025 at 09:47:47 It should reflect the youth and heritage of the city, something like, The Mind Your Car Mista Parkway. Jerome Shields 32 Posted 15/03/2025 at 10:00:48 Moshiri & Co where probably eyeing the same.It could have even been their principal aim, a dockland development, but Kenwright put paid to that. Tony Abrahams 33 Posted 15/03/2025 at 10:02:54 I will third Craig's suggestion Robert, whilst adding that I think yours also makes a lot of sense.A landing stage at the side of the dock, and I'd also be looking for another one at the far end of New Brighton, although I'm not sure this will work on that side, because of the tide? Brian Williams 34 Posted 15/03/2025 at 10:19:58 Tony #33,New Brighton's a bit out of the way to be honest. I think utilising the Woodside ferry would make more sense. Tony Abrahams 35 Posted 15/03/2025 at 10:23:44 I was thinking more about the links to the M53, Brian, but you know that side a lot more than me, mate. Stephen Williams 36 Posted 15/03/2025 at 10:32:55 Sean (13),I can't see the RS selling the sewage works to us, especially after only just building that monstrosity of a new main stand!Seriously though, it's a shame that this site wasn't secured before we built the stadium because 52,888 was never going to be enough. We'll sell out every game and still have over 30,000 on the waiting list. Derek Taylor 37 Posted 15/03/2025 at 13:26:30 Just how did Kenwright block Moshiri plans for the Docklands, Jerome @32? I thought Moshiri put most of his fortune into the new stadium at Bramley-More Dock! Bobby Mallon 39 Posted 15/03/2025 at 17:00:18 Paul Kossoff,Have you had a bad day? Scott Hamilton 40 Posted 15/03/2025 at 17:07:15 That's it, boys. Just keep buying until we own the fucking city!!! John Davies 41 Posted 15/03/2025 at 18:00:06 I read somewhere that they are thinking of buying Nelson Dock. Dan Nulty 42 Posted 15/03/2025 at 19:07:53 It is a very smart idea that I think will get great approval from the council. Giving thousands a reason to stay and spend money in the area will take a massive amount of pressure off the transport links rather than having a mass exodus of 50,000 looking for a way home straight away. Bill Watson 43 Posted 15/03/2025 at 23:30:03 Filling in the dock for a car park? A definite no, no from me. George Stuart 44 Posted 16/03/2025 at 04:14:38 It seems every city council and their dog is installing a light rail system these days. Here in Aussie there's a veritable plague of the things. Some good and needed, others not so much.I know me Nan used to rattle on and on about the amazing overhead railway down the dock road. Maybe we could do a Heritage/retro-future thing? Of course it was probably built because we were the second richest city in the world, because of the docks. Not a sports club with a game every fortnight in the winter. Matt Traynor 45 Posted 16/03/2025 at 05:45:45 George #43, you won't find city councils in UK pushing LRT these days. Most can't even get bins emptied properly. West Midlands got some extensions through as part of the 2022 Commomwealth Games, and a Bus Rapid Transit scheme called Sprint.Successful LRT schemes in UK tended to reopen former rail corridors, or replace existing rail routes (Manchester) with a modicum of street running. Nottingham was successful because it attracted a load of private money. Edinburgh and Sheffield killed the UK government appetite for LRT schemes. Merseytram and Portsmouth were victims of this – despite millions being spent on designs and right-of-way.Everything is driven by the Business Case. And right now (and for the next 10-20 years) there will be no government funding for major city transit schemes. The monumental arse up that is HS2 has been curtailed to London-Birmingham only – thereby taking the benefit-cost ratio from very minor positive into major negative territory. Oh, and because they're not extending the infrastructure to Manchester, the trains will not be able to run at the speed and frequency desired, so will in fact offer fewer seats than the existing West Coast Mainline.It's one of the reasons I and many others worked overseas for many years. Seeing stuff get built.They do need to address the transport access to the new stadium. But for the medium term at least, it will be a bus-based solution. They can push active travel solutions all they like, but the impact will be minimal. Ron Sear 46 Posted 16/03/2025 at 08:42:29 It is a bit of a puzzle, I would have thought there was some fairly clear idea of what they wanted to build given the money they would have to spend. Other than that I suppose you could freeze the water and have a ready made Olympic size skating rink. Alex Parr 47 Posted 17/03/2025 at 09:03:46 Some of the amazing pictures from Dan Meis view included the shimmering waters of Nelson Dock next to our South Stand. Part of the appeal and visuals for me, filling it in would erase that idea and that memory. Laurie Hartley 48 Posted 17/03/2025 at 10:30:32 Surely the reason for the desire to buy Nelson Dock has something to do with this:-Planit-IE unveils new visuals for tweaked Liverpool Waters masterplan — 23 September 2023If that is anything to go by, the dock will not be filled in. Julian Wait 49 Posted 17/03/2025 at 17:06:10 Is Nelson Dock the fellow that took ten points off us last season? Jerome Shields 50 Posted 18/03/2025 at 08:46:26 Dereck#37By being the main reason that most of Moshiri's investment in the football end of the Club went South resulting the Premier League imposing financial restrictions and having to increasing borrowing money to avoid bankruptcy.This meant that Moshiri &Co had to take a hit and allow a takeover, thereby ending their Mersey Dockland ambitions.By the way the Liver building is lossing money handover fist.It's ownership is close to 70% Russian, with a Moshiri minority shareholding, which he lied about.Moshiri's fortune actually increased in value over this period, so Moshiri investing all his money in the Stadium is incorrect.Also it is questionable if it is Moshiri's money anyway and it is also questionable where the money come from.A combination of Kenwright &Co mismanagement, interference by Moshiri who was a goose and Sanctions on the real billionaire (the one behind Moshiri) who Kenwright found put paid to their Dockland Development.Moshiri &Co objective was always a Dockland Development not Everton FC.That is why Kenwright was left in charge.That was their mistake.They went for the discounted purchase price accepting Kenwrights conditions.By default Everton have got a new Stadium not properly funded.TFG have to get a grip of the Management of Everton FC and they then will be able you extent their Dockland ambitions.It is early days in seeing if Moyes is the way forward. Jerome Shields 51 Posted 18/03/2025 at 11:11:09 Correction : Now properly funds.Thanks autocorrect once again. Ian Wilkins 52 Posted 19/03/2025 at 15:08:51 Control and add value to your asset by controlling what's around you. Can't do much about sewerage works to one side, but don't want similar on other side.There's money to be made from land and property on the waterfront. Filling in docks is expensive, however, unless you have a high-value end user. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb