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The Infamous Right Wing

By Jake Wilson :  02/08/2010 :  Comments (24) :
This has been our week point for a couple of seasons now. On the left we have Pienaar and Baines, they have that connection to know what the other ones doing and it is our best side to go down when Arteta, Rodwell or Fellaini.

Now we come to the point we have tried a number of different players down that right side; Osman, Pienaar, Arteta, Davies, Bilyaletdinov, Andy Van Der Meyde, Gosling, Anichebe and Donovan. Osman- Tidy little player, quick feet, eye for goal, and can be our best player? on his day which is occasionally.

Pienaar ? He could play right wing comfortably he has pace, skill, eye for goal, very good crosser but him and Baines on the left is something we cannot throw away.

Arteta ? Our best player. He is great in the middle he can spot a pass, dictate the game and he has an eye for goal. He is too good for us in the centre to put on the wings.

Bilyaletdinov ? I think he could be the answer to our problems, he can cross the ball, tidy feet, good with both feet but he looks like he lacks that pace. Maybe that was because it was his first season and he was tired and was just settling in. now it?s his year to show us what he's worth.

Anichebe ? He is pacey, strong and he scares defenders with those to attributes. I know everyone is always on the Yak?s back, however I do think that when Johnson was our lone striker he was the prefect role model to Anichebe. Anichebe I think has moulded himself around the Yak to try and hold up the ball and then give and go. That?s not his style of play he scored more goals when he ran at defenders than when he waited for the ball. However the right wing maybe his best position, because he is running at defenders and giving them a hard time.

Donovan ? I am just putting him as an if. He is pacey, got a bit of skill about him and he loves the club. To me he is our missing piece.

Coleman ? I know you will be thinking he's a right back, I know I?m just giving possibilities, he is quick determined and he can cross the ball. He can also get back and defend. To me that?s the perfect winger. But he may not want to move up into right midfield. Look at Bale for Spurs, playing well at left back, he is similar to Coleman, they put him left wing and he was superb. Possibly we could do the same to Seamus?

I think players will be chopped and changed in this role until Moyes finds his perfect fit?.

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Ciarán McGlone
1 Posted 02/08/2010 at 16:51:21
If we had some money we could buy a proper right winger - I know, I know...a ludicrous idea.

Billy is not a winger. It was obvious before we signed him and it's obvious now.
Dick Anderson
2 Posted 02/08/2010 at 16:54:26
What about Gueye? He played on the right against Norwich awhile. He wasn't any good but still its an option.

Personally I like having Pienaar switch wings during the game. It mixes things up and keeps the opposition guessing.
Mike McLean
3 Posted 02/08/2010 at 17:07:55
Well, Jake, let's hope it's ninth year lucky for Davey, eh?
Alasdair Mackay
4 Posted 02/08/2010 at 17:32:32
The most impressed I've been this pre-season has been with the Anichebe/Coleman combination down the right hand side. I would rather sign Donovan for the short-term, but if we can't afford him or refuse to pay the asking price for a 28 year old player, then maybe Vic and Seamus could be the answer.

I think Ossie is far better through the middle than he is out wide and Bily has to work on his work rate and consistency. Gueye will replace Pienaar down the left if/when he goes at the end of the season.
Christian Yandell
5 Posted 02/08/2010 at 17:34:24
Big Vic looked pretty good to me on the right after donovan went back to LA.

I know he has many question marks over him, including attitude and effort etc. But to be fair to him he looked the part during those few games and scored a great goal to boot!

Moyes even went as far as to say after one of the games that on his day he is unplayable!

Give him a decent run, tell him we need 110% every game and prove he is good enough. This could be a make or break season for him.
Andy Crooks
6 Posted 02/08/2010 at 19:14:09
Dick, if Gueye played on the right against Norwich and wasn't any good it doesn't seem much of an option.I admire much about David Moyes but in his career at Everton he has played players out of position far too often. In fact, sometimes it has been injuries that have forced him to get it right. In the absence of a pacey right winger Vic will have to do. As Christian suggests he might just come good.
Jon Cox
7 Posted 02/08/2010 at 19:18:31
God, what does it take. Hibs (he scores we riot) or nev at RB and put coleman on the right wing.

It's not rocket science FFS. Come on Davey have a little gamble, be adventurous, you haven't won anything so far so what have you got to lose!!

COYB
Jon Cox
8 Posted 02/08/2010 at 19:25:20
Andy, what say you?
Alan Kirwin
9 Posted 02/08/2010 at 19:31:49
Who plays right wing for Spain? or Barcelona? or Holland? or Arsenal? or Chelsea? or many/most good teams these days?

Answer: Nobody / It depends.

These days there are less occasions when a right winger is needed as there's no big centre forward(s) in the middle waiting for it. The game is different.

It is also no coincidence that most of teh above teams have fit and skillful full backs who create the width and, being full backs, tend not to be marked as well as an out & out wide midfielder.

So Daniel Alves, Ashley Cole, Maicon, Clichy, Sagna etc etc all provide attacking width without compromising strength in midfield. The team rotates to allow it.

We do not need a right winger. We need to play intelligent, mobile, compact football, with the team moving left & right as necessary to attack or defend. We have any number of players who have and can occupy a wide berth on the right when the situation demands it. Osman, Arteta, Coleman, Hibert, Neville, Bily, Pienaar, Gueye etc.

The days of one-trick ponies is over, at least for the better teams. I think its time we started to acknowledge that we are one of the better teams in the EPL. I fully expect this season to bear that out.
Jon Cox
10 Posted 02/08/2010 at 20:05:37
I fully expect this season to bear that out.

I only hope you're right. But,somehow i dont remember Osman taking the world by storm out on the right.

Also I remember Kanchelsis not needing a big centre forward to do damage to an opposing team.

If it works well, and it has, on the left then whats the problem with having a shit hot pacey guy who makes things happen on the right.

All power to our elbow I say.
David Hallwood
11 Posted 02/08/2010 at 21:05:27
Alan Kirwin #9 are you saying that Robben and Malouda are not wingers? I take your point that there are options such as 4-2-3-1, and with the two holding mids, the width is supplied by the full backs, but you need to have midfielders that can score consistantly, and IMO donovan fits the bill because he's got a good scoring record.
Andy Morden
12 Posted 02/08/2010 at 21:46:23
Alan, you have a point about a right wingr not being essential. However, I don't think wingers are totally redundant. Takle the world cup final, the game was tactically compressed in the middle and neither team had any width from full back. To my eyes it was crying out for some width, ideally someone with pace to get in behind the defence. Wingers don't have to lump it in, a cut back to on rushing midfielders is just as good a ploy...

In the end both the Dutch and the Spanish brought on a winger.

We lack pace as a team too. Getting different options in, with the possibility of playing different systems or having a different gameplan is, in my opinion, a good thing.
Derek Thomas
13 Posted 02/08/2010 at 21:45:45
28, 28, 28 Donovans 28 so what, How old is Arteta, would you not give him a 3 or 4 yr contract??

(It COULD happen) we sign Donovan for 4 yrs, we win the FA Cup, then the League, miss a year losing say a major final, then win the league again.

Some say 28, 28, 28, 28. = too old

I SAY

83-84, 84-85, 85-86, 86-87.= CL Regulars and Revenue streams to die for.
Jay Harris
14 Posted 02/08/2010 at 22:49:27
Forget a pacy winger while we have Anichebe , Gueye and Beckford available.

We desperately need a class CB especially if the rumours about Jags are true.
Andy Crooks
15 Posted 02/08/2010 at 22:47:31
Jon. I think you have a good point regarding possibly playing Coleman wide midfield in front of Hibbert. It would seem to me to go along with the interesting points made by Alan Kirwin. In my view, someone like Wright-Phillips is an example of the one trick pony he refers to. Donovan isn't and while I thought he would be an excellent signing last season I still think we are looking on him as somehow being the final piece of the jigsaw. It would give us more options if he was here but we'll be fine without him. For me. we need cover at left back.
Lewis Barclay
16 Posted 02/08/2010 at 23:10:23
Jon & Andy, I agree and have made the same point about Coleman on the comments of the Norwich player ratings thread on this site.
I reckon give Coleman a run out pre season or in the reserves on the right of midfield. Especially if peanut and arteta are off, it would only leave us ozzy and anichebe as an option.
Richard Norris
17 Posted 02/08/2010 at 23:25:19
Whatever happened to our interest in Ben Arfa? Can play on the right wing, pacey, younger and cheaper than Donovan. I hear he's available for around 7 mil, could even be available on a loan to buy deal.
Chad Schofield
18 Posted 02/08/2010 at 19:36:48
Let's not forget Moyes tried Cahill on right last season... Ok, maybe we should.

Big Vic was doing well there until he got injured, and after coming back into the team clearly lack fitness and confidence - unless we sign someone, he's likely to start, with Maguaye, Bill, Osman and then Coleman given opportunities out there. Certainly agree with your appraisals though Jake.
Brendan O'Doherty
19 Posted 03/08/2010 at 02:28:25
Sorry but Coleman is not going to be the answer for the right-midfield berth. A good attacking full-back (who needs to improve his defending) yes, but not a right sided midfielder. It looks like it's going to be Anichebe there unless we get Donovan, so we'd better get used to it.

Andy, you say that DM "has played players out of position far too often." Yes, but he has been forced to, due to the lack of options, and we all know that he is not responsible for that. E.g. Osman. Should never be used wide right but there was no-one else after Arteta was brought into his proper position in the centre. He is now trying Victor. It may or may not work, but at least he is trying something as he has no transfer funds to bring someone else in.

I agree with Alan that out-and-out wingers are a bit of a luxury these days. But that's were Donovan would fit in perfectly. There is a lot more to his game, but he would fill that position perfectly.
Alan Clarke
20 Posted 03/08/2010 at 12:12:44
Alan's right providing we have a decent right back. Neville is too slow and HIbbert can't cross. Hopefully Coleman can provide the same as what Baines provides on the left. I'd like to see Billy play on the right and cut in the same way Pienaar does to allow space on the outside. Unlike Pienaar, Billy also offers a decent shot like he showed against Man U and Portsmouth when he cuts in giving us another weapon.

I think Lennon this world cup showed how outdated pacey wingers have become. They're far easier to mark and are completely nullified if the opposing team defends deep.
Alasdair Mackay
21 Posted 03/08/2010 at 12:34:26
I would think that Moyes will be thinking his strongest team at the moment is Howard in goal, Neville right back, Jags and Johnny in the middle of defence, with Baines at left back. Then Bily on the right, Peanuts on the left and Arteta and Fellaini in the middle. Cahill supporting Saha up top. Impact subs will be Gueye or Anichebe for either side. Beckford for an extra striker and Rodwell and Osman for the middle. Hibbo or Coleman are full back cover with Distin or Yobo on the bench to cover the two centre backs.

I would imagine that Johnny may miss the first couple of matches because he is not quite match fit yet, but Distin will start and Yobo will be on the bench.

I would like to see Vic given the nod ahead of Billy for the right and Coleman in ahead of captain Pip. Also Rodwell for Fellaini for me.
Steven Barton
22 Posted 08/08/2010 at 07:33:01
Agree with just about everything Alasdair, except Rodwell for Fellaini. I think the big fella will prove this season that there's no way he can be left out. Expect a more attacking role for Rodwell this season anyway.
Steven Barton
23 Posted 08/08/2010 at 07:47:12
Could Rodwell play on the right?
then we could accommodate, Felli, Arteta, Pienaar and Cahill. Dunno, just a thought, obviously not long term but it would get him games now. Unless we bring someone else in, the rh side will remain our week link.
Sean McKenna
24 Posted 09/08/2010 at 05:25:53
I know I'll get a pasting for posting this, but all the comments mail bag posts fans articles etc etc are starting to get on my nerves.

Landon is a fantastic player, last year he gave us balance on the right hand side, he had a good input into the style which we all want to see: pass-and-move footie. Landon had a decent World Cup in a poor team, he also scored and made a few goals not to mention adding another dimension to the team's overall play by adding a bit of pace. however some fans seem to deem landon as some sort of messiah... i disagree; here's why.

Landon is 28, he plays in a piss poor league, he is theIr golden boy, would cost a fortune to buy ? £9million depending on which paper you believe... Wages will be very big, and no sell-on value. So add that up ? is he worth bursting the bank for? I believe there are better, or should I say, more affordable players out there who would do a good job on the right. To name a few: Chris Eagles ? young, English, tricks, pace, sell-on value; Ben Afra ? also young, very pacey, full of tricks, but a big ego to boot, which I'm sure Moyes would beat out of him; Sanchez ? Chilean winger, again full of pace, tricks, works hard... and only 22,.

Now there are players out there with more value for the overall club as a whole, not to mention solving our right-hand side problem and our lack of pace problem, so please stop going on an on about Landon. Yes, he loves the club but where have i heard that before? Once a Blue, Always a Blue... eh?

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