Time For A Clear Out

Pienaar goes and Adam from Blackpool arrives?

This could happen with little or no money involved but what would it mean to the make-up of our starting eleven assuming all players fit and available?

It would be interesting to see how the manager would deal with it ? not just in terms of selection but also in his formation and style of play. To hark back to an earlier thread, I think the manager would be forced to think differently. I am not one for paying much attention to rumour but it would be interesting to see how it panned out IF it happened.

I'd like to think a big priority is keeping hold of Pienaar ? we are a better team with him in it and his partnership with Baines is one of our main goalscoring threats; losing that outlet will be highly detrimental to the team. Gueye may fill that place in time but not yet.

Getting hold of someone who can convert our many goalscoring chances has to be high on the agenda. Tevez or Darren Bent are out of our price range but if we get some cash, how about a cheeky bid for Clint Dempsey? He may be interested if Landon returns and they play well together for the USA.

Bilyaletdinov ? players from Russia often seem to take a while to settle in. You could argue that he has been at Everton long enough; however, I think he is a very talented player and sometimes you have to give such players the benefit of the doubt. I don't think Moyes's tactics, which 75% of the time are defensive, do him any favours.

Heitinga ? an international class player who can play in several positions. Given our recent injury history, I would have thought it made sense to keep him.

Mucha ? has only just been signed and given that goalkeepers seem to play for longer, well into their 30s, I thought it makes sense to keep him. Look at some of the other teams in the PL, several of them have "reserve" keepers of similar standing.

Saha ? again a class act and to sign a replacement of the same quality you would be looking at over £10M.

Vaughan ? still only 21, I hope that his Everton career is not over. Yes, he has had injuries ? but why is it that players who suffer injuries seem to get blamed as if it's their fault rather than bad luck? I think he has a lot to offer.

Anichebe ? not a great scoring record but he hasn't always been played as a striker. I see Kevin Doyle at Wolves has yet to score this season, but Mick McCarthy sees his value to the team. I think it is the same with Victor, who often creates goals for others.

Personally, I think the last two suffer as they are lads who have come through the academy/reserves and when things aren't going brilliantly they are the first to get criticism from fans.

Let's look at some of your "wish list":

Bentley ? surplus to requirements at both Arsenal & Spurs. Any better than Bily? Not in my opinion. If he was that good, he would have a collection of England caps and be an international regular. He hasn't... doesn't that tell you something?
Chris Eagles & James Mackie ? you dismiss Vaughan as finding his level and suggest two Championship players in your "wish list" ? good players at that but they would still have to prove themselves at PL level and expect their clubs to ask for way over the top transfer fees... as much or maybe even more than Spurs paid for Van der Vart.

Charlie Adam ? I would go along with you with him, he is doing well and looks a good PL player. Only question mark is that he plays for a manager who seems to play attacking football most of the time; how would he fare playing in a more defensive system?

As for Johnny and Bily, only if we get good offers.

I don't see any of the players mentioned as dead wood and wouldn't be pushing them out of the door... maybe listen to substantial offers for a couple but it's now a squad game.

Compare our subs bench to some other clubs before suggesting dramatic cuts.

The quality of the PL now demands that you have specialist type players for each position. I'm convinced that if we played Bily in the current Cahill role he'd be a revelation, as he'd be a better tactical fit to the kind of service our midfield are creating.

If he goes, he goes... but we won't get £9M back for him and it would be criminal if he then goes on to shine for someone else in that second striker role.

I know I'm going out on a limb with this view but just think it's unfair to slate players who stuggle when they are played out of position. After all..... If I asked my plumber or electrician to build a brick wall & he did a shit job, surely that would be my fault & not theirs?

Check what you're differing over and to be honest, it's nothing. Ok, boys break over, next round please.

Full credit to Moyes for the standard of player at the club, but a shameful indictment of the board. They may back him recently in the salary stakes but the transfer outlay is down to Moyes and not significant board investment. I'm amazed that some of us, myself included, can think of top 6 positions.