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38 Questions for David Moyes

By Charlie Percival :  03/02/2011 :  Comments (67) :
Dear David Moyes,

As an Everton enthusiast (until this season) I would like you to answer a few questions. If you can do this then you're worth £70k a week.

1) A few seasons into your reign, you stated you had a five-year plan. What was this five-year plan? Was it to turn into Walter Smith and put square pegs in round holes or give us fans sleepless nights? Maybe it was to get a bumper contract... Well done.

2) Is Blue Blooded Bill the only poor guy left in that Chilean Mine? Should we actually not try and find him? Don?t you care? Is he mining for some precious gems to afford the Toffee Lady's salary?

3) Why did you bring Coleman on for about 10 minutes combined last season, yet he did more in those two games than a right back has done for us in decades? then flog him off to Blackpool?

4) Why did you play Coleman on the bench for half this season? Was it because you were worried about your usual priority of defending? "Well, why not push him to right wing?" said the Evertonians. Oh sorry, I forgot you had Osman, Bily & Anichebe to oust.

5) Do Gueye or Baxter have a chance?

6) Does anyone have a chance fom our youth ?homegrown? players?

7) Why do you buy out-and-out strikers and send them to the corner flags or centre circle when your five-man midfield formation is supposed to actually alleviate this need? A striker plays in and around the opposition penalty box to score goals... or so I thought.

8) Why do we always send all our players back for every corner?

9) Why do we always score a goal then go into a trench of desperation and survival?

10) Why was poor Beckford bought and not given a fair run with a strike partner?

11) Why was Vaughan loaned out when he's probably the favourite player of most of us fans in his attitude to the game and more importantly the club.

12) Why did you delay signing your five-year contract for over half the season?

13) Why did you not give the Yak a sustained run and chance to regain his match fitness before giving him away?

14) Why do you have to buy players that are a jack of all trades but master at none?

15) Why did you play Jagielka and Heitinga for about half a season in centre-mid, right-back consistently seeing it doesn?t work then move them into their favoured positions where they made their trade?

16) Why did you play Lescott at left back all the time and not play Baines?

17) Why did you bring Sander Westerveld and Francis Jeffers to our club?

18) Why don?t you like having balance and pace in your team?

19) Why does Tim Howard have to kick the ball as high as he can every goal kick?

20) Why won't you play two bloody strikers? I maybe not on your money, David, but it's no coincidence we scream out for two strikers and things change straight away?

21) Why did you resort back to your crappy negative tactics in the Derby when we could have stuffed them?

22) Why do you make the wrong substitutions at the wrong times?

23) Why can't you see when a game is going against you and a tactical alteration or a change is required?

24) Why does Jack Wilshere have more money than our Club?

25) What did you say to Keith Wyness?

26) What does Steve Round do?

27) Have you ever watched an Everton team from the 1st tier of a stand? Try it please, David... it's bloody horrible.

28) I love your enthusiasm but sometime I feel embarrassed about the barking of instructions onto the pitch. Are these players professionals or school kids? No wonder Coleman always does his best to run as far forward as he can! I've seen many times players hesitate or make wrong decisions because they get you confusing them basically.

29) Does Arteta just pretend he can't run or is he well and truly finished?

30) Where's the David Moyes we all loved in your first few years? Have you run out of ideas... love for the club... enthusiasm?

31) Do you like Blue Bill? (You can e.mail this in cryptic if you like...)

32) Do players no longer get a game on merit?

33) Why have Hibbert and Osman lasted the Everton revolution... which is no longer a revolution but back to Square One?

34) Why is it so obvious whats wrong and you cant see it?

35) I know your hands are tied by Bill but that squad ? a kid picking the team Champ Manager style could actually do better.

36) Why did I hear a comment from one of our players saying vs Arsenal the second goal killed us and we would have taken the draw?

37) Why do you get paid £10k a day to prevent the above questions... yet don?t prevent them?

38) Do you want to be at Everton in 5 years time? If so, start by giving the fans a reason to want to go and watch Everton... and ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK!

Anyway it's 4am and I need to go to sleep. Feel free to add.

Reader Comments (67)

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Paul Ward
1 Posted 03/02/2011 at 08:15:03
So many valid questions there. I think the only way to have them answered is for Evertonians to refuse to attend games at Goodison.
Guy Hastings
2 Posted 03/02/2011 at 08:35:11
39/ Is there any danger of coaching the midfield/defence in how to cover when one of Baines's outswinging corners is cleared by the opposition enabling them to break?

40/ Why was there no tactical Plan B in place for Pienaar's inevitable departure? Baines looks decidedly out of sorts since he left.

41/ What actually happens at Finch Farm? Is all the coaching left to Round? If so, why? If not, what does he do?

42/ Rodwell or Fellaini? Who's going in the summer?

43/ What had Beckford done to piss you off so much that you'd rather play Victor Anichebe?

44/ What does Anichebe do in training that so impresses you?

45/ What does Osman do in training that so impresses you?

Tony J Williams
5 Posted 03/02/2011 at 09:01:37
I will try and imagine what his answer would be for a few of them

4 - He has started about 16 games, maybe more so where is this half a season on the bench rubbish coming from?.

8 - Because nearly every other teams do, Chelsea and Arsenal did in our last two games.

16 - Because he was scoring more than our forwards and earned an England call up in that position

17 - One was an emergeny and the other was forced on me, hence why he didn't hardly get any playing time

23 - Because I have a shit bench and none of them would add anything to the team if I brought them on.

26 - Makes a fantastic Cappuchino

30 - The fans expectation after the flukey 4th place has crushed him out of sight

33 - Because Hibbert is one of our best "defender" - Ossie has some incriminating photos of me!

38 - Good strategy - but it actually cost us the win against Chelsea and we conceeded against Arsenal when we were caught short after attacking their goal.
Alan Khan
6 Posted 03/02/2011 at 09:09:57
Just saw this on www.icliverpool.co.uk - "SYLVAIN DISTIN has declared that David Moyes is the only motivation Everton need to help them salvage a disappointing season."

Well - it's hasn't helped yet...
David S Shaw
7 Posted 03/02/2011 at 09:20:45
So that's the problem with Everton, late substitutions, well fuck me
Matt Garen
8 Posted 03/02/2011 at 09:18:11
Another few to answer:

How on earth have you managed a 41% win ratio based on spending a net of only £3m per year?

How have you managed to finish 4th, 5th twice and 6th in the past 6 seasons with the financial constraints placed on your transfer budget?

Considering the disparity on what the other 6 ever present clubs have spent in the Premier League, how on earth have you kept the club up at all?

How did you manage to sign Coleman, Arteta, Baines, Jagielka, Pienaar and Cahill for a combined total of £16m?

How long do you think you would be out a job with that CV if you were not manager of Everton tomorrow?

Feel free to add...

Colin Potter
10 Posted 03/02/2011 at 09:54:08
No 39,
Do you think that the supporters who still think you are God, naive or stupid, or do they just don't anything about how the game is played?
Anthony Jaras
11 Posted 03/02/2011 at 10:06:19
The title is wrong, it is only 37 questions as 35 is an opinionated and immature statement.

Some obvious questions, some good ones, some ridiculously childish ones too.

Mixed review of this post although I feel some of your frustrations wholeheartedly.
Lee Baines
13 Posted 03/02/2011 at 10:26:32
No.33) A 'revolution' by definition means 'back to the start' - if you're going to be taken seriously, try not to make yourself look like a fool.

A few questions up there are valid; Most of them are pointless and childish; the remainder are just plain spiteful.
Marc Williams
14 Posted 03/02/2011 at 10:31:31
Just one question from me Davey lad... Do you & Kenwright know where the switch's are ... so you can turn off the lights on your way out ?

Jane Jones
16 Posted 03/02/2011 at 11:12:26
11 is a good question as he scored the other night
Dave Wilson
17 Posted 03/02/2011 at 10:56:04
39) When was the last time somebody summed up enough courage to tell you to "grow a pair" to your face ?
Leon Perrin
18 Posted 03/02/2011 at 11:43:23
Supplementary questions:

Is managing Everton money for old rope?

Are you familiar with the phrase "flogging a dead horse?"

If you discovered your gardener played striker not centre half in his sunday league team would you sack him?

Sam Hoare
19 Posted 03/02/2011 at 12:14:08
How about this one question.

Do you think you deserve all this flack from certain fans who seem to forget how the performance of Everton over the last decade totally outstrips the relative spending that you have been allowed and who seem to ignore the fact that everyone makes mistakes and that you have worked yourself to the bone for the club and done everything with honesty, integrity and to the best of your ability?

I don't.

Alan Clarke
22 Posted 03/02/2011 at 12:50:55
How about,

did you hold the club to ransom for your new contract?

Do you feel your wage is justified considering you've never won anything?

What secret does Hibbert know about you?
Sam Morrison
23 Posted 03/02/2011 at 12:59:37
Some genuinely merited frustration has led to a spiteful and unconstructive thread. I'm not the Moyes fan I once was but in no way does he deserve this.

Ryan Holroyd
24 Posted 03/02/2011 at 13:11:29
A few things:

Did you hold the club to ransom for your new contract?

Everton did not have to give Moyes a new contact if they didn't want to. They could have said 'no, what you're asking for is too much. There is the door'.

Fact is they didn't because the board no that without Moyes getting the bargains he has (Arteta, Baines, Jags, Lescott etc) we would be in an even worse position that we currently are.

Moyes has made, by his own admission, made many many mistakes.

BUT THEN SO DO THESE OTHER MANAGERS MOST PEOPLE THINK WOULD COME TO A DECLINING AND SKINT CLUB LIKE EVERTON.

As much as it hurts me to say, EFC are a middle of the table club, have no finance, an old stadium, poor people follow the club in relation to teams like Arsenal, Spurs etc, crap sponship money, a low wage structure, an even worse net transfer spend.

Lee Courtliff
26 Posted 03/02/2011 at 13:30:08
I thought there was some valid questions in there. I personally have no clue why Rodwell is being played instead of Beckford??? At least Tim is back now.
John Wright
27 Posted 03/02/2011 at 13:18:40
On Tuesday night I walked into The Emirates Stadium (first visit) full of hope and enthusiasm, after reaching my seat my feelings changed to total depression whilst looking around what can only be described as a fantastic stadium. The realisation of just how far we had fallen behind teams like Arsenal set in and the massive gap in finances and resources that was there for all to see. Whether we ever bridge that gap remains to be seen and will be decided by those with far deeper pockets than the average Blues fan.

My depression lifted for 90 minutes particularly whilst we were ahead. Whilst it not only depressing and frustrating to see others move light years ahead of us, surely our enthusiasm and support should never drop.

Yes, it is right to question those running the club, particularly about our future and our lack of finances, but to put the blame at the door of Moyes is wrong and misdirected. Another myth put to bed on Tuesday night was that new stadiums lack atmosphere.

Matt at #8 I doff my cap to you.

Colin McBride
28 Posted 03/02/2011 at 13:38:11
Christ you have a short memory. I for one remember back to managers like Smith, Kendal's 2nd and third Reign, Walker. I suppose you think that they did better than what Moyes is doing?

Do you honestly think that everton's financial problems are down to Moyes? Do you think he would be playing some of the players he has currently got if he could afford better?

I personally think the man is doing a fantastic job with what he has got and I am only surprised that he is still at Everton when we have fans like you spouting complete crap everytime you open your mouth.
James Cadwaladr
29 Posted 03/02/2011 at 13:55:15
39/ Please can you bring Alan Irvine back now he has lost his job.
John Ford
30 Posted 03/02/2011 at 14:05:09
Perhaps we should instead be asking:


1/ David, could you tell me how on a pittance you have managed to achieve better league placings than any club outside of the sky faves ?

2/ David, given recent difficulties how will you again rebuild Everton into a team capable of challenging for europe and do so with less cash than any club of similar stature?

...oh and David, fair play, you perhaps shouldnt assume players are capable of playing any position to an acceptable standard.....and Id have a word with Anichibe. This is English football, not the american kind.

Brian Denton
32 Posted 03/02/2011 at 14:36:48
38 questions - bleedin' 'ell ! I felt tired just seeing the title. I skim read down to #37 and saw that Moyes was on £10k a day. Try as I might, I could not get that to equate to the oft-quoted £65k a week. Or perhaps Moyes works part-time. I suppose that could explain things...!
BJ Farrimond
33 Posted 03/02/2011 at 14:29:26
In Moyes we trust, Kenwright needs all the stick.
Brian Denton
34 Posted 03/02/2011 at 14:41:01
And before anyone points out that he's on £9,285 a day which is 'nearly' £10k, over a year the difference is over £250k, which I would say is significant!
Stephen Kenny
35 Posted 03/02/2011 at 14:43:51
39. Are signings like Peterlin, Arnoux and Velios secret signals to the fans that you are mightily pissed of and that the financial situation at the club is beyond bleak? Do they mean ignore the press when we get linked with anyone?

40. You dont have to come out with statements about how great Bill Kenwright is, yet you consistently do. This is despite the fact you havent spent a carrot for years and look like a miserable bastard most of the time. Are you genuinely happy at Everton?

41. Is it true Alan Stubbs tried to kop for the tea lady after this season's derby win after a day on the JD?
Roman Sidey
36 Posted 03/02/2011 at 14:41:53
Ah, Brian, how many days do you believe there are in a week? Okay, so it's more like £9200 a day, but these tiny arguments where the fact is off by a tiny little bit that the Moyes defenders pick us up on all the time.

"Well, actually, Coleman played 16 games, not 15 games." To that tune, you are clutching at straws. For me, Moyes should have been sacked after the 05-06 season.

Most who are defending him on this thread say the same stuff: "How has he finished in such a position on such little money?"

Well, tell me what the reward was for finishing 6th, 5th, 5th, 8th.

I think the most valid questions are the ones aimed at his reasons for dropping Yak and Becks and persisting with Hibbert (and Number 21).

Robert Fletcher
37 Posted 03/02/2011 at 15:14:01
Brian he probably gets £10,000 a day Monday to Friday and time and a half on Saturday! Wish I did.
Brian Denton
38 Posted 03/02/2011 at 15:35:41
Roman, I'm not a Moyes defender, just a pedant !
Brian Waring
39 Posted 03/02/2011 at 15:44:37
Does Richard Dodd work for Bill Kenwright?

Why, in your 9th year, are you just as negatve as the first?

What type of mind melt do you use on some of our fans who seem to think we owe you some kind of debt, even though you get paid a fortune for the job?
Sean McKenna
40 Posted 03/02/2011 at 15:45:32
My god, some fans just can't see past their nose! Yes, Moyes has done a fantastic job, well done Davey!!

However, your time is up, after 9 years in charge you don't know what your best team is, we still don't have any wingers at the club, we have zero pace ? your fault, Moyes!!

Putting on defenders when we are losing is an insult to us fans, and after 9 years in charge we only look like scoring from set pieces. Football changes, Moyes is still in year 4 of his 10 year plan!!

Thank you, Moyes and goodbye ? and take that fucking chairman with you!

Alan Clarke
41 Posted 03/02/2011 at 16:12:15
Ryan (17), Moyes will absolutely not admit to making many many many many many mistakes. Can you find me a link where he even admits to making 1? And if he's made all these mistakes that he admits to, what is he doing in a top job?

For now I'm willing to vent my anger at Kenwright because he's the true villain but Moyes is still part of the problem. In the same way Fabregas disgusts Moyes, I find Moyes' constant defence of Kenwright equally disgusting. Moyes is making his own bed and therefore I have little sympathy for him.

It is Moyes' defence of Kenwright that creates this apathy amongst fans - "If Moyes says we're ok then we must be". We're not ok, the club and its finances are a complete fucking mess. Moyes is part of Kenwright's regime and the whole lot of them should fuck off.
Art Tosh
42 Posted 03/02/2011 at 18:19:18
If the premier league was a level playing field (like US sports - salary cap, wealth distribution etc), we'd be a top 3 club and winning trophies because of Moyes. The fact that most of you can't see that is sad.
Andy Crooks
43 Posted 03/02/2011 at 19:10:48
Colin, Walter Smith is a superior coach to David Moyes. In fact, he's got the trophies to prove it. The Rangers side he took to the Europa league final would have struggled in league one.

The days of David Moyes are much darker than those of Walter Smith. If Walter had the money that David Moyes had he certainly wouldn't have done any worse. These have been wasted years. I just cannot believe that so many Evertonians are grateful for the utter dross we have been served up.

Brian Waring
44 Posted 03/02/2011 at 19:04:06
"We'd be a top 3 club and winning trophies because of Moyes. The fact that most of you can't see that is sad."

Art, how is that a fact? Have you got some magic stats to back that claim, or some sort of crystal ball, or is that just you own opinion?

Also, your opinion is that on a level playing field we would be a top 3 club, and winning trophies, but anyone who doesn't agree with you is sad?

One last question Art, if as you seem to think, Moyes is great, why are we in 15th position in the Prem, 3pts above a relegation place?

Gareth Humphreys
45 Posted 03/02/2011 at 19:23:55
Maybe Brian because for the last 3 years the manager hasn't has 1p to spend?
Talk about managing with your hands behind your back.
Brian Waring
46 Posted 03/02/2011 at 19:33:56
Gareth, I know Moyes hasn't had the cash.But how can Art say as a fact, if Moyes had had a level playing field, we would now be a top 3 side, and winning trophies under him? It's not a ' Fact ' its an opinion, and if you don't agree with his opinion, your labelled sad?



Gareth Humphreys
47 Posted 03/02/2011 at 19:48:57
I'm responding to your comment about us being in 15th and not Arts impressive clairvoyancey
Who in this league operates with that level of spending and expects anything other than a swift trip to the Championship?
David Thomas
48 Posted 03/02/2011 at 19:49:06
"The days of David Moyes are much darker than those of Walter Smith."

Andy,

I'm sorry but that is complete rubbish. I know we are all feeling low at the moment but to suggest that this is worse than when Smith was in charge is just stupid.

Glen Anderson
49 Posted 03/02/2011 at 19:58:40
Some very childish questions here. My personal opinion is that Moyes is doing better than Smith and other previous managers, has a good eye for cheap talent, is a great man manager but not the best tactician or decision maker for substitutions. Finally, I don't think many other managers would do a better job.
Steve Smith
50 Posted 03/02/2011 at 20:17:35
"As an Everton enthusiast (until this season)"

That's as far as I got then nodded off ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Howard Don
51 Posted 03/02/2011 at 20:25:32
Andy (34) You're either too young to properly remember Walter Smith's era, or too old and alzheimer's is setting in. I give Walter credit to some extent for holding the club together (just about) through the Peter Johnson debacle, but, at best, he fought a series of rearguard actions. Walter left us with a squad full of too many over-the-hill has-beens and sub-standard players. Moyes completely turned around the club, root and branch. Whatever you think of him now, saying Walter was superior just doesn't wash, my friend.
Chris Halliday
52 Posted 03/02/2011 at 20:46:55
Everton Football Club wishes to announce that its annual accounts were formally signed-off on January 31, 2011.

A copy of the Club's Annual Report, containing the accounts, will be sent out to all shareholders early next week.

As is customary, the accounts will be made available on evertonfc.com later next week.

Roman Sidey
53 Posted 03/02/2011 at 22:34:20
Art Tosh - You epitomise the straw clutching Moyes defender that I (wrongly) labelled 'Brian' earlier (Sorry Brian).

"If it were a level playing field, he would be good."

IF I had wheels I'd be a wagon.

It isn't a level playing field, and using that hypothetical just doesn't fly.

For all those on this site that are defending Moyes to the hilt, we are really just venting after his behaviour in the Arsenal game.

Who out there can say that money or lack thereof had ANYTHING to do with his ridiculous subs in that game? Seriously, I want to hear if a Moyes defender thinks he got this game right...
Graham Rathbone
55 Posted 03/02/2011 at 23:11:16
To Charlie the OP: How about doing a "38 questions for Bill Kenwright"?

Moyes is not the problem at Everton. There is something going on in the background at the club and the look on David Moyes's face during a recent Sky interview proves it to me.

I think that all the recent problems are a backlash from DK. Think about it for a moment: why did two Spurs supporters (both retail businessmen) Green and Earl get involved with us, at the time of DK? After it went tits-up, I think they want their cut back.

Dennis Karanikolopoulos
56 Posted 03/02/2011 at 23:58:02
Fellow Toffees, I feel your pain. Instead of sharing the questions amongst ourselves, why not mail them to the club and seek a response? Seriously? Petition it with as many Toffeeweb signatures as you can.....
Tony Wilson
57 Posted 04/02/2011 at 01:21:40
I counted 20 solid questions there my friend. Not a bad ratio considering a few were obviously flippant. I have another.

Why is it that after 9 years of evidence to support the above criticisms many everton fans bang on about relative wealth and integrity to defend you? Is it perhaps because they are just as unimaginative and autocratic as you?

All hail the moyesiah!

Blind faith in role models is childish gentlemen, not this free thinking contributor.
Steve Collins
58 Posted 04/02/2011 at 04:26:17
Walter Smith superior to Moyes? ? now I have heard it all!!

He has Scottish trophies to back it up which mean feck all. Anyone can manage in Scotland even Neill Lennon is made look good as a manager.

Walter Smith was terrible when he was in charge here. He blamed Johnson for no support but I blame him for wasting the money Johnson gave him him... as well as Johnson being a crook.
Danny Hinchcliffe
59 Posted 04/02/2011 at 06:02:16
Ok so the best performer to pledge himself to EFC (bar Kanchelskis maybe?) for the last few decades gets sacked... who's going to replace him?

For a start this thread lost all credit in my eyes by questioning Coleman's loan... so he goes out on loan and comes back a quality right winger... he was playing well for Blackpool but not as well as he has been this seaon, whatever happened happened because of that loan and the manager has pulled a blinder.

I'm just annoyed that whoever wrote this thread can count to 37 because it gives some kind of intelligence to a completely stupid point of view,

In my opinion, it's a long-term thing, people need to stop rocking the boat because stuff like this could sink us.
Liam Wilson
60 Posted 04/02/2011 at 08:28:16
Steve Collins 48 ..."Anyone can manage in Scotland even Neill Lennon is made look good as a manager". Eh... Dalglish & Barnes managed Celtic in the 90s. Result: abject failure. Tony Mowbray managed Celtic 18 months ago, now manager of Boro. Result in Scotland: Abject Failure.

Still think "anyone can manage in Scotland"? Check your facts before making flippant, hackneyed and perjorative statements about the SPL. On the flip side, some of the EPL's best managers including Moyes, Ferguson, McCleish have cut their teeth successfully in the SPL.

Lee Armstrong
61 Posted 04/02/2011 at 08:52:49
This has obviously been covered before but look at the teams that Walter Smith used to field compared with those of Moyes. Call him negative, cautious, yadda yadda... but people cannot deny that he has TRIED to get us playing a better brand of football (albeit with limited success).

It does grate me a bit that all the things he has done for this club he is getting such abuse for a season which has been crying out for a kick-start, a spark... Redknapp provided VDV on deadline day in August; imagine if Moyes had been given the opportunity to sign someone like him at a similar time. Plenty of people need to get off the fella's back. The things that he's done for this club warrant a lot more respect than he is getting...

Tom Winek
62 Posted 04/02/2011 at 09:46:38
34) Why is it so obvious whats wrong and you cant see it?

What's the answer then?

Mark Wayman
63 Posted 04/02/2011 at 11:51:59
As far as I'm aware, Moyes never managed in the SPL.
Ray Roche
64 Posted 04/02/2011 at 11:51:59
Lee Armstrong.
Too true, Lee, anyone would think Moyes has done his best to ruin the club. With a nett spend of £3m per season since he's been here he has done a good job.

I'm not completely happy with the way he's run things, his habit of bringing subs on with 5 mins left, in fact his totally baffling substitutions allround, and his often negative approach also pisses me off, but if anyone can name a manager who would have done better with the resources and the team he took over I'd like to hear it. (Please, nobody mention that prick O'Neill or Redknapp)

Robert Johnson
65 Posted 04/02/2011 at 12:25:35
You had one or two good points in there, that I agree with, shame you had to bury them beneath so much ill-informed or childish toss. Just to pick out a couple of points though:

Lescott stayed in at left back because he was immense in that position at the time, only an idiot would have dropped him. Vaughan ? every Evertonians favourite player? What? Every match-going fan I know realises he's nowhere near good enough for the starting 11.

Finally, did you ever see us play under Smith? We were far, far worse than we are now.

Roman Sidey
66 Posted 04/02/2011 at 13:11:28
Have to agree about Vaughan. I am in support of most of these questions, but Vaughan makes my skin crawl at how bad he is. Neither him nor Anichebe have become half the players we were expecting them to.
Michael Brien
67 Posted 04/02/2011 at 12:56:22
Yes David Moyes has done a very good job as Everton manager and we have become used to being in the top half of the table, qualifying for the Uefa/Europa Cup and done reasonably well, reached the League Cup Semi Final and were FA Cup Finalists. That's a fine list of acheivements indeed.

But Harry Catterick could point to 2 League Titles and and FA Cup win as well as runners up. Johnny Carey was manager when we reached our highest League position for over 20 years and many of the players he signed were part of the 1962-63 title winning squad.

No manager is above criticism and yes, I will readily acknowledge that David Moyes is a good manager ? but without fault?

As far as I know there is nothing in the rules of the game to say that you have to play the same formation in every game. Yes, 4-5-1 ? why in over 95% of our games do we play one striker?

I may not have a FIFA recognised coaching badge... but can anyone tell me why certain players are named on the bench when you and I know that they have virtually no chance of being brought on? i.e. Gueye and Baxter? Surely when you name your 7 subs, they should be 7 players that you would be prepared to bring on if need be. Not 5 with 2 to make the numbers up.

I saw the interview when he said about other clubs spending millions, but at those clubs what would happen to the young players? Would they be given a chance ? Did he mean players like Gueye and Baxter?

In his time as Everton manager Moyes has signed several strikers ? have they all been bad players? I don't think so. In the time that Tim Cahill has been at Goodison, we have seen Beattie and Johnson arrive and depart and now most likely Yak.

As regards comparisons with Walter Smith, yes, Moyes has taken us forward... but WS is often given more stick than he deserves. He had to deal with Johnson's lies, the transfer budget that was supposedly there in reality wasn't. Bakayoko was signed to play alongside Ferguson but we know why that never happened. In terms of value for money the £250,000 that WS paid for David Weir ranks as the signing of the decade in my book.

The question we need to be asking is: Is David Moyes the man to get the best out of this squad of players? Personally, I have my doubts.
Chris Leyland
68 Posted 04/02/2011 at 13:53:00
Can we put to bed this Walter Smith was better than Moyes shite:

Here is Walter's record in the full seasons he was manager:



Pos W D L F A
14th 38 11 10 17 42 47 43 13th 38 12 14 12 59 49 50
16th 38 11 9 18 45 59 42
16th 29 7 9 13 27 35 30

In all but one of Moyes's seasons as manager we have finished with 50 points or more, which was Walter's highest points total. In all but one season we have finished higher than Walter's highest finish.

Let's not blame Moyes for the current prediciment. Look up to the middle of the main stand to the front row on the comfortable leather seats for who is to blame.

We are a mid-table Prem club in terms of attendances.

We are a lower Premier League club in terms of net transfer spend.

These aren't Moyes's fault.
Michael Brien
69 Posted 04/02/2011 at 14:37:16
Chris #58 ? I didn't say Walter Smith was better than Moyes. Also regarding the "comfortable seats in the main stand" ? does Kenwright pick the team and decide the tactics? I think not.
Tom Winek
70 Posted 04/02/2011 at 14:58:42
Michael # 57

"I may not have a FIFA recognised coaching badge... but can anyone tell me why certain players are named on the bench when you and I know that they have virtually no chance of being brought on ? i.e. Gueye and Baxter? Surely when you name your 7 subs, they should be 7 players that you would be prepared to bring on if need be. Not 5 with 2 to make the numbers up."

But that's the whole point. We have the numbers in the squad but not the quality. He probably puts these players on the bench for the experience, knowing full well they aren't going to get any game time. I'm not a coach but I'd imagine this must be some sort of tactic to prepare them for when they will be called upon hopefully some time in the near future. I'm not saying it's right but there seems to be logic in it. Plus there's nobody else close to the first 11.
Chris Leyland
71 Posted 04/02/2011 at 15:08:22
Michael - 59. I wasn't talking about you saying Smith was better but some earlier posters did.

In terms of does Kenwright pick the team and decide the tactics? No he doesn't but the financial constraints placed on Moyes by Kenwright influence the team selection and tactics. If Moyes could splash £50m on a world class forward a la Chelsea then tactics and selection might change. Instead he is forced to pick between an injury-prone "has-been" and a third tier trier who cost a combined £0 between them. If Moyes could afford a decent winger then he could replace Pienaar, who was sold from underneath him. Maybe he wouldn't have had to pluck a 20-year-old from a pittance from Ireland and turn him into a class act through developing him and loaning him out either?

But he can't do any of these things so he has to persist with the tactics and selection he does. So yes, I blame Kenwright for this to an extent.
Max Main
72 Posted 04/02/2011 at 15:18:18
Gueye might be terrible. Has anyone ever considered that?
Art Tosh
73 Posted 04/02/2011 at 15:31:32
Brian - 35 - fair enough, not a fact, an opinion. I did buy a crystal ball off the internet but all it told me was Red Rum was gonna win the National again, so I binned it. And I can be sad about all this anti-Moyes BS if I want to.
Art Tosh
74 Posted 04/02/2011 at 15:34:55
Roman 44 ? I don't epitomise anything. I find things wrong with Moyes on a game by game basis, and could second-guess him as well as anyone. This commentary is the result of an article with 38 questions that, in the main (in my view) are ridiculous and pointless. Let's take question 3 ? about Coleman: whatever Moyes did we have to admit he has produced a top-class player for little money. His strategy was to send him to Blackpool where he got a lot of playing time, and then bring him in this year. It worked. Why is this writer questioning this like he did something wrong? Its anti-Moyes BS, that's why. Snore snore. Why's it a crime to support the manager on this site?
Ray Roche
75 Posted 04/02/2011 at 16:36:32
Michael Brien ? It's ridiculous to compare Moyes and Catterick. Here's a few names for you: Kay, Pickering, Ball, West, Newton ? all these players were brought by Catterick and, I think I'm right in saying, were each the most expensive player in their position in Britain, all record signings for their club. Moyes may have broken our record with Fellaini at ?15M but that is being paid over five years (apparently). Moyes has never had the financial clout that Catterick had. Unfair comparison.
Michael Brien
76 Posted 04/02/2011 at 16:55:30
The comparison was to say that whoever the manager is/was they are not above criticism. Some people are seeming to suggest David Moyes cannot be criticised and is totally without fault/blame.
Roman Sidey
77 Posted 05/02/2011 at 00:02:51
Art, it's not a crime to support Moyes at all, but for some reason Moyes supporters seem to react to our criticism of him by calling us Kopites and doing to us what you think we do to you.

What is a crime is blind faith, and only reiterating the same ONE excuse over and over again: Money.

I can think of several points in my criticism of Moyes, bad subs, negative tactics in perpetuity, petty grudges against his co-workers (players before you ask) and all round boring/pathetic media persona he's created for himself.

On the Coleman issue, I didn't have a problem with him being loaned last season as, by the time he came into the first team, we weren't short on players. What confused me was Moyes benching him for the Bolton game after he'd carved Blackpool a new one the previous week.

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