Fellaini says this season is his last

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'I have seen everything'
Marouane Fellaini claims he could leave the club as soon as the next transfer window. In an interview with a Belgian newspaper published today Fellaini said he was now looking for a way out of Goodison Park.

"I am just starting my fifth season at Everton, this will be one of my last," he told Het Nieuwsblad.

"I have seen everything. In January, or at the end of the season, I will turn to another club or league."

Fellaini's ambition is understandable but the timing of his comments, just three weeks into the new season has raised eyebrows.

He subsequently tried to allay fears of a January departure on his Facebook page, by claiming surprise about the newspaper story, and saying he was has happy at Everton (see below). But the genie was not going back in the bottle that easily...

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Tom Fazal
1 Posted 09/09/2012 at 14:58:42
Press reports suggest Fellaini has given an interview to the press saying his time at Everton is coming to an end, maybe sooner rather than later. I don't object to him have ambition to move on but making it public this early in the season is disappointing. Any truth or lost in translation again?
Steve Guy
2 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:00:18
101greatgoals.com are quoting Felliani's interview with a Belgian newspaper as saying he will leave in January or next summer as he "has seen everything" whatever that means.

Hopefully something lost in translation but he might have trouble explaining this one away to Moyes when he gets back to the Club next week.

Sur Jo
3 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:08:10
Would be gutted if he leaves. But I could not care less. Get the money and we move on. Everton can count on my relentless support.

We have to make do without Fellaini one day. If it's tomorrow, then so be it. Onwards, and we move on and continue our way forward.

Mark Riding
4 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:09:06
He is on a massive contract, so if he goes it will be for top money and we will replace him.

Why would he come out with this just as the window has shut anyway? More pressure on BK to get Moyes signed up again? Who knows..

If he wants to move to a new league, then I would suggest he actually looks at the players Barca, Real, Bayern in their midfields first.
Tony Christian
5 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:08:59
Who gives a flying? Vastly overrated, inconsistent and an arrogant piece of sh*t off the field. We'll be here long after the likes of Felliani have come and gone. Have much more time for the Carsley and Graham Stuart types than foreign mercenaries such as him.
Tony McDonald
6 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:06:59
Could this week get any worse?

Assuming nothing has been lost in translation and Fellaini means what he says, then I am feeling a lot of frustration, anger and disappointment. I thought that we were building our team around him and that he would be here for a long, long time.

I wonder if the sudden thrusting into the media spotlight following the United game has anything to do with this...

Suddenly every man and his dog were talking the boy up and envious eyes were being cast.

I, too would like to see his explanation to Moyes and more importantly to the fans for this statement

Kase Chow
7 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:13:14
I'm a massive fan of Fellaini but if he wants to leave and if he's prepared to publicly state it then he can Fk off
Aidy Dews
8 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:12:14
I reckon it's bullshit cos didn't the same Belgian press or radio station weeks before he signed a new deal claim he said he'd like a move to Chelsea if there interest in him was genuine?!

It'll be a load of rubbish as he's admitted already this summer that he loves it at Everton and now we've spent a bit of money, signed his mate I can't see him wanting out too soon.

And in the same interview right, why would he say he's thinking of leaving and then when asked about Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe, say he was disappointed we didn't get him and hoped we would in the future?

Why would the interview be so contrasting, from wanting to leave and then hoping we sign his Belgian team mate? Surely if he had leaving on his mind he wouldn't give a shit about if we signed him in the future or not?!

Anto Meehan
9 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:21:08
Good riddance, £30million please.
Al Reddish
10 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:24:25
Probably means Man City have tapped him up. They will offer £10m and Rodwell knowing our luck!
Paul Gladwell
11 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:23:21
If the club cannot move forward then you cannot blame him for wanting to move higher up the ladder, but why start spouting anything like this to the media? Keep you trap shut, have some respect, then fuck off. He leaves, we move on — with a big wad of cash that will keep the wolves from Billy again.
Mark Riding
12 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:27:59
Al #599, nice one !
Mick Davies
13 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:19:46
After years of being paid lots of money, he finally starts to become something of a footballer. I've never been convinced by him at all, and after the Man Utd game, he's back to his usual self.

He doesn't fit in with our team and Moyes never really knows where to play him. One good game up front, then, because his Andy Carroll style attracts publicity, he wants to go as soon as possible.

Totally classless gobshite, after persuading his international team mate Mirallas to join us, he wants to jump ship. This is the ideal opportunity for the likes of Berkley and Mirallas to come into the side, and leave Fellaini on the bench; after all, we will have to do without him soon anyway, and I'd prefer someone who wants to play for us on the park.

Watched him against Wales and – not just sour grapes – I thought he was clueless and painfully slow. Good riddance and I hope we get about £20m off some mugs and buy a right back and bring Landon back in January.
Ajay Gopal
14 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:04:15
I can't believe any player would talk about leaving the club 3 weeks into the season. Especially at a place where he is revered by the fans and trusted by his manager. It would be immature, deceitful, unprofessional and disrespectful. Not to mention stupid after the transfer window has closed.
Paul Gladwell
15 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:29:41
Pretty annoying since the club has a bit of good vibes for once and he decides to discuss stuff like this to the media. Misquoted or not, he has still mouthed about something he should not have.

Most probably his dad telling him he is world class because of the plaudits he got against Man Utd... well, start doing it against the West Broms too — if he believes his own hype so much.
James Martin
16 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:27:07
Well said Tony Christian. The most overrated player to play for us in recent times. I was devastated when Arteta left and sad when Cahill did, I‘ll be overjoyed when Fellaini leaves.

Everything was going so right at Everton until he joined, the player to supposedly take us forward set us back. He craps out of every derby game as well.

If some idiotic club is willing to pay £30 million for him then we could get 2 genuine world class players in. Then our game can once again be based around the creative talents of an Arteta or Pienaar type rather than trying to use Fellaini as some sort of Kevin Davies type target man. We could have had Modric for that money, instead we got Fellaini; he‘s never given us 15 million pounds worth of talent.
Steve Brown
17 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:36:32
Sell him then, as Anto 598 says... Why not?
James Morgan
18 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:36:34
Why do these foreign lads think that their interviews whilst away on international duty won't be heard back in the prem? Berbatov only said last week about Fulham being a small club and the two years he has there will go quickly.

Are they stupid?

I'd love Fellaini to be here for good but if he wants to leave then sell him on for £35m+, somebody like Real, City or Chelsea will pay it.

Let's face it, it's how a club like Everton survives these days. Buy or produce a player for a smaller fee or nothing and sell them on for big bucks. Even Arsenal do it. Until Bill the crook fucks off and we get a billionaire owner, it's how we get by.
Liam Morton
19 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:44:28
As long as he stays until the end of the season and continues his form that he showed against United and Villa then he can go with my blessing.

On current form he is worth £30 million and some one will pay that I'm sure. Zenit just bought Axel Witsel for around that price and Fellaini is on par with him, if not better.

We didn't spend all of the Rodwell money so I'm guessing we have appeased some creditors until next summer at least so we're in a good bargaining position.

A fair price is anywhere between £23-£30 million in the current climate and if Moyes can reinvest most of that we'll probably be in a better position.
Jon Beck
20 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:48:19
Extremely disappointing. No issue with footballers moving on, it happens. Why the hell he needs to announce it to the world though is beyond me. It hardly helps his resale value!
Keith Conchie
21 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:41:37
Some harsh words against Fellaini being posted on here. Ok he shouldn't be talking about our club the way he has (saying that he's seen everything, whatever that's meant to mean), and saying he wants to move on. But he aas been our best player so far this season and one of our best last season. He will be missed when he does go, as would any side miss him, just hope we get £30m + for him and Moyes gets all the funds.
Jay Harris
22 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:50:06
If true it hints at something more sinister behind those comments.

It may explain why many of the players were flat against West Brom particularly Fellaini.

It was not so long ago he was singing Moyes's and the club's praises. I wonder if Moyesy is planning an exit at the end of the season or could it be that the squad was promised significant replacements following Rodwell's sale and in reality all we got was Mirallas.

Nevertheless, (if true) those comments are badly misplaced and mistimed...

Phil Sammon
23 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:57:29
After the work he did in getting Mirallas here I seriously doubt these latest reports.

I think he is very fond of our club. That said, I'm sure it is his dream to win titles. If he wants to move on then I wouldn't have a problem with it.

So long as we get serious cash then I'm sure we can deal with the loss.

I like Fellaini, he's a fantastic player at times. But he's not irreplaceable.

Ajay Gopal
24 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:52:59
The complete Google translation from the news article:

There was the last transfer window on our Belgians much news to gather around Marouane Fellaini but remained silent. In 2008 he moved to 20 million from Standard to Everton. Last year in November, he extended his contract with the Toffees until 2016 but it seems that he will not take off contract.

"I begin now to my fifth season at Everton," the Perminator in England as he is sometimes called. "This will be one of my last. I've seen everything. In January or at the end of the season I would look for another club or league. Pity incidentally Vadis that he did not come to Everton. It may come later on. "

James Martin
25 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:02:16
He hasn't seen a trophy, has he, or regular European football, and as the supposed superstar of this squad, he has to shoulder a lot of the blame for that. Suspensions, poor form at the beginning of seasons, bad performances in big games such as the semi-final, they're part of the reason we haven't made it.

Notice he didn't want to leave whilst we were paying him through those long-term injuries or sticking with him when he was getting sent off every other game. No, one good game, a bit of media adulation and he's off.

We could have had 8 Artetas for the price of him. Other, better, more creative players with some actual speed and flair are out there and at better value, Fellaini's money oculd really move us forward into becoming the attacking team everyone wants us to be.
Brian Keoghan
26 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:59:34
Before we start jumping on Fellain's head let's make sure he has not been misquoted; we have been down this road before with various overseas players when interviewed in their own country. Maybe Fellain's "auld fella" has been firing a few bullets.
Michael Kenrick
Editorial Team
27 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:11:33
James, a bit of perspective, please.

Fellaini has been sent off just once in his Everton career.

Terry Smith
28 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:09:12
Doesn't surprise me to be honest. Similar to Arteta in a way. He probably did himself & Everton a favour by signing a 5-year contract on big wages and a promise that we would not stop in his way if a top European club came in with a big bid. This is how things will be under Kenwright and no money.
Tom Harries
29 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:04:01
Jay Harris 614 "It may explain why many of the players were flat against West Brom particularly Fellaini."

I listen to the Guardian's Football Weekly podcast, and in the last one before the transfer window closed, one of the journos, Barry Glendenning, made a prediction/wisecrack that Fellaini would be poor against West Brom if he were still at Everton after the window closed.

There was a lot of hype about him the first couple of weeks of the season and I reckon it's gone to his head. If he does want to go, I'll be disappointed as I rate him, but for god's sake, please get good money for him!

Jimmy Scales
30 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:59:47
Lets be honest here, I think we all expected felli to do one after this season and yes his comments are derogatory and in poor taste and timing. But the up shot is we should get between 25 to 30 million for him and we can't say we were not warned regarding lining up possible replacements.
I'm sure I'll get shot down in flames for even suggesting this, but could actually see wayne come back a few years earlier than expected!
Si Cooper
31 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:51:43
Where do we go from here? Seems like this could be player misbehaviour of Tevez proportions (if true) and I don't see how the manager can use him if this is a reflection of his attitude to the club.

Will have to wait and see if there is a retraction but, as it stands, it amounts to a serious betrayal because it will make it really difficult to play him with the confidence that he will give his all, and puts us in a poor bargaining position when we deal with prospective buyers.

Shane Corcoran
32 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:12:52
No place fore perspective when the blood's up, Michael.

Tony Christian, what's your view on homegrown mercenaries?
Sam Hoare
33 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:12:02
Find it very unlikely he would say something like this just after the transfer window closes.

If he didn't say it then I hope some of the fickle fans posting on this thread will retract their harsh comments.

For me he's been our best player for a couple of years now. Not always totally consistent but covers more ground, makes more tackles and is involved in more chances than any other player.

Mark Tanton
34 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:19:20
A very bad week, and poor timing, but... Ching ching ching.
Gerry Quinn
36 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:24:58
If I was Moyes, I would gag the frickin lot of them. Almost every player seems to have far too much time on their hands, the majority of which is spent chuntering away for their own gain, showing a severe lack of loyalty, dignity or teamwork?
James Martin
37 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:19:48
Fine, he only has one red card – he has deserved a whole lot more for some shameful elbows, alright though when it's one of our own isn't it? He's already the top fouler in the league after three games and consistently comes top of the charts. How many annoying free kicks has he given away that we've conceded from? How many times as he not picked up his man at a corner or not closed him down?

He's largely responsible for two of the three goals we've conceded this season yet all anyone goes on about is Osman and Hibbert or Howard. His role in allowing Carroll to knock us out of the cup is also conveniently overlooked, must have been Hibbert's or Neville's fault. We may have undeservedly gone to pens and won (like they have countless times).

Although not red-carded he's missed numerous games through suspension thanks to cumulative yellow cards. How many games has he just drifted through because he's not at full fitness? When he is fit, he can play like he did against Man Utd, when he's not, he's virtually useless and a bit like Carroll it takes ages for him to rev up to full fitness (perhaps an overlooked excuse for our poor starts).

If he'd played like he did against Man Utd every week then I'd have no problem with him but he hasn't for the best part of 5 or so years. But there's always an excuse for everything for him, isn't there, everyone blindly fawning all over him in the hope that we can cling onto this man with a big price tag and that we may actually have a genuine world class star and be a big club.

The reality is he has nowhere near delivered anything like a world class contribution to Everton on a consistent basis.
Barry Rathbone
38 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:15:50
This will happen every time we have a half decent player, it's the price of believing "no body's buying football clubs these days" and the net result of no ambition.

People venting their spleen at Fellaini are missing the point as will be proved if Jelavic reproduces last seasons form or Mirallas etc.

Pissing against the wind with this mob.

Kevin Day
39 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:23:07
All this just doesn't make any sense to me, the timing, what he said etc, I think we should all just take a step back and see what is said when he comes back.
David Barks
40 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:28:48
I honestly have no time for a player who comes out with these types of quotes in the public. I don't have a problem with him thinking that, if he wants to move to a club with the money to compete for the Champions League or move to a top club in Spain. But saying it in public is extremely unprofessional and only undermines this club's bargaining position. Extremely disappointed with this development.

And Chris, the line following him saying "one of my last", he says either in January or at the end of the season.
Joey Brown
41 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:37:21
Get rid then. I love the guy and he's important to our set up, but getting £30M+ in January and even handing £10M of it over to the banks works for me. I've been impressed with what Moyes did with the Rodwell money. Let's double it. Get Felli out and two central mids and a back up striker in. Team stays the same or gets better, debt lessened, and a sour grape off to new pastures of bench warming for millions.
Paul Jones
42 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:38:29
To be honest, thanks for your efforts, Felli, but if you want to start treating the club and fans with that kind of disrespect, there's the door ...fuck off.
ps: If you would've bothered your arse jumping against Andy Carroll in the semi.....
Mike Oates
43 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:38:28
I suspect there are 3 or 4 players in the squad — Fellaini, Baines, Jelavic and maybe just maybe Mirallas — who could well walk if we don't actually qualify for Europe, maybe even just the Champions League and they have all had a good season. They are at an age and I suspect level were they could and should be playing at the CL level.

Even if we do the impossible and get a Top 4 spot, I doubt whether we could with the squad and our lack of experience get through the initial stages of the competition (as last time in 2004-05) and these 3 or 4 players will know this and could possibly still force a transfer.

Premier League success for us will only throw the spotlight on our better players and unless we can start to match the £70-80k week salaries they can easily get elsewhere (and probably more!) then we will forever be chasing the yearly entrance to the CL.

Andrew Gilbert
44 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:43:01
I heard this news on 5Live and I immediately thought — get rid off the fucker then.

Barring any misquotes, it is an incredible thing to say at this stage of the season.

If we get good money then in the long run I think it will be a good thing. He is a terrific player but lacks consistency.

Paul Ferry
45 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:58:15
Lanky gangly too-tall-for-not-to-be-awkward looking silly Hair Bear Bunch Minnie Ripperton hair-do Belgian rocks the boat at former Big 4 club Everton and its associated web boards.

Okay (hang on, fuck, REO Speedwagon – would you Adam and Eve it, REO Speedwagon are on live on me box at 10-11 AM on the Sabbath, and the three guitaurists are coming together in those hideous 70s stage huddles – Take it on the Run Baby, … join in Eugene.) Anyway, back to the post:

(1) Timing is all (1) MF. Why on earth would you spit this all out in the second week of September hanging out with the Belgos on International duty, you big dumb twat? You did not need to do this. You could have sat in your nice riverside flat making calls, sounding things out, but there is no need to turn to the press at this point – note to self: perhaps lanky Belgo is not as smart as I once thought...

You sir are one of the reasons (indeed, according to the ToffeeWebbers August poll, THE reason) for our smart start to the season. Couldn’t you have let it unfold a little and just wait and see for a little? Instead of now causing some inevitable whisperings, tensions, and perhaps one or two resentments in the camp, therefore potentially threatening that smart start and the chance that in fact you might be wrong and EFC could be up there come next May?

nb: I would not want to be Mr Hair when he gets back to his Everton family and has to explain himself to the gaffer and the lads and all that and the tea lady (piss in his tea, Rita). Ouch, I would not want to be sitting about the gaffer’s office – the Sensational Alex Harvey Band humming on the other side of the door notwithstanding – knowing that in a minute or two I will be on the end of a bollocking from – Mr Barry – disciplinary, dictatorial, difficult, demanding, daunting Moysey.

(2) Timing is all (2) Okay, the cat is out of the bag, the hair bear bunch are heading for the door. Good news, in anticipation, we hope, of major sponds crossing his palms, Moysey now has all the time in the world to scout about for at least two major new signings (more if he follows this year and sticks to well below £10 mill) that will make this team even better and more likely to be up there. Based on the last nine months or so, we ought to have high hopes that the gaffer and his advisors will nail this one down.

(3) Forgive me, not once have I ever been fully convinced by our towering Belgo, not once. There’s a buzz around him since 20 August and long may it continue and let’s hope that it rises in crescendo. Yes, there have been some sublime moments ad the Manure 90 minutes will live long in the memory.

That all said, sometimes his very Crouch-like dangly awkwardness on the ball (don’t worry, I know he’s better than mutant Lurch) stops me from ever becoming convinced. Not many of us on here would have guessed he had that Manure 90 in him and now he is suddenly unstoppable (Daily Blah), unplayable (Terry Darracott), relentless (Radio Caroline), impossible to defend against in that situation (Plassy Bertrand), unbelievable (Vince Cable) blah, blah, blah, blah, ad infinitum …..

He just ain't as good as some on here seem to think and that aint sour grapes, promise, the sponds will get us a better player and one or two more to boot, also a promise.

(4) And perhaps most important of all, Everton fans are for the most pretty cool. I myself came of age in the late-70s/early-80s away mob (yes Dean Adams, Mark Stone, Mike Oates, Noel Lynam, Denis Richardson, Sam Hoare, James Martin, Mark Dunford, Dave Wilson, the entire fucking Freshy, there were even Moyes haters before Moyes in the Buggles years): designers this, designer that, right up to me Sherlock Holmes cap, no colours, no colours anywhere in sight, impeccable music taste, in a blue nutshell, 100 per cent cool.

So, it’s something of a shock to me to see an uncomfortable number of my fellow Evertonians sporting aforesaid lanky Belgo’s Minnie Ripperton hair wig. Unless you are below 5, and even then Dad what were you thinking, it is quite frankly a little embarrassing, grown men and all that. We are not the barcodes gentlemen please – note to Moyes, make it a #1 priority to buy ace players with the Belgo sponds with cool barnets).

(5) last but not least, any day now expect a missive from Captain Pip about how great morale is at Finch Farm. ‘Like we stick together like glue, like, and the lads are one like and an apple not sliced is whole and you can’t split an atom like’.

To briefly recap: (1) terrible timing MF, makes us all think that you might be a twat on the run (2) start looking Davey, plenty of time and sponds mate (3) he aint as good as many of you seem to think (4) no more silly shitty hair wigs at the Old Lady, back to the cool (5) And so Phil …..

James Smith
46 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:56:28
Moyes will put the money to good use. Hopefully we can get another player just as good, remember we only paid €15M for him.
Martin Mason
47 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:59:52
If it's correct then c'est la vie. I thought that this was likely when he signed a long contract last year. It's just a sign of where we are in that we can't keep players as good as him. We have benefited from having him and we'll benefit from selling him for more than we paid. We need to just accept it, get over it and just move on.
Kevin Hudson
48 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:59:37
The man who won ToffeeWeb's 'Player Of The Month,' poll, now getting slaughtered by the same people who voted for him. (Talk about fickle.)

Frankly, if there's no cliched 'lost in translation' explanation, I find his honesty refreshing.

Rather that than him kissing the badge one week, promising to 'be here next season' only to piss-off anyway.

An up-front, no bullshit, honest appraisal of his career past, present & future. I don't mind that one bit.

Andy Crooks
49 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:51:37
Mike Oates, if the players you mention are Champions League level then why the fuck don't they make an effort to get Everton into it? Players seem to feel that their club most provide them with CL whilst seeming entirely unaware that their own efforts, or lack of, might just play a part.

In the Sunday Times today, Wayne Rooney quotes, I think, Michael Jordan, who felt that a great player should make his team great. We don't have great players at Everton now.

James Stewart
50 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:16:14
I don't actually think we would miss him all that much if he were to leave.

He is on a big contract and therefore would command a sizable fee. I can't see anything other than a win-win situation for us. He could be replaced easily.
Tony Waring
51 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:09:51
It wouldn't surprise me if the reported comments were actually made by his father.... if past history is anything to go by.

Anyway, we have done without him in the past and doubtless we'll be able to do so again and we can use the cash to get Wayne back where he belongs.
James Martin
52 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:16:32
Mike,

If Fellaini, Baines, and Jelavic all had great seasons then we probably would get into the Champions League but they don't. Jelavic was only here for half a season so it's too early to judge, he may well yet fire us there. But Fellaini has never put a good consistent season together.

Neither has Baines; he looks good when Pienaar is in front of him but defensively rocky if anyone else is there. Likewise the boys at the back, for such talented centrebacks Jagielka and Distin always seem to have at least one error a game in them (or two, such as Norwich away last season which we'd won twice before they cocked it up again).

The January additions are consistent — Pienaar Jelavic and Gibson look as though they could go a whole season at the same level; everyone else seems to veer from the sublime to the ridiculous. Until the rest of the squad matches their consistency and cuts out these stupid errors that turn wins into draws, then we'll never get fourth again.
Gareth Fieldstead
53 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:10:08
Strange one this, he signs a new contract just after we lost Arteta and Pienaar before him. Moyes then signs Jelavic, Gibson, Pienaar and this summer he convinces his international team mate that he should sign for Everton instead of Champions League participants Arsenal. He then waits for the window to close to mention that this will in fact be his last season at the club.

Now we are all mercenaries, I do not know of anyone who would turn down more money. Add the fact they are talented sportsmen who are ambitious then I don't blame any of them for wanting to achieve all they can for the relatively few years they have got to do it in. However the timing is awful.

Having said that, I agree with Paul, I have never been convinced by the guy. Too me he is just another Rodwell. It has taken Moyes four years to decide where his best position is and I remain unconvinced.

When we signed him I was gutted it wasn't his two colleagues Witzel and Defour; with the exception of two games against Utd and the City home game in 2010, he has never been anything special. If Moyes can genuinely reinvest then I think he can improve the team further. I just hope he states it was all a misunderstanding (even if he is after a move) and the team continue onwards and upwards.
Andrew Bone
54 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:25:25
Funny this – maybe something went on at the club approaching the end of the window that we didn't know about. A late bid not made public and turned down perhaps. Who knows?

However, I hope Moyes has begun to line up replacements. A decent whack for him and use the wages to bring in two players. My concern with playing him so far forward is that we may become one-dimensional again and stifle any creativity in the side. That and the fact I can see Big Vic playing in his place.
Kevin Tully
55 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:25:47
WTF? Very disrepectful if this is true. I can't say I would blame any player for wanting to win trophies – but there is a way of bringing about a move without touting for it in public.

We are paying this man approx £50,000 a week, and he comes out with this shit 3 games into the season!!

Makes you wonder if his first two League performances were a "come and get me" plea to City or Chelsea.

That would make him an even bigger twat than those comments above.

Dennis Stevens
56 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:11:21
I'm a bit surprised he's still here anyway. The only issue is how much can we get for him & who can we spend the money on, well - some of the money I suppose.
Ian Bennett
57 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:41:34
I would think that we would get a limited fee of £20 to £25m tops. Strong rumours that's what his buyout clause was in his contract, so let's not get carried away with fees much bigger than that.

We were always his stepping stone which is fine. We get the money and move on.

Neville and Distin are out of contract, whilst Hibbert, Osman, Jags and Pienaar are all another year older. A decent fee allows Moyes to replace like this year. Summer sales groundhog day.

Ian Bennett
58 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:58:57
If he is offered another year, Coleman has failed to nail down the right back berth and should be shipped out.
Anthony O'Sullivan
59 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:04:26
He has ambition to play for one of the bigger clubs pity his talent doesn't match his ambition.
Joe McParland
60 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:46:17
No surprise this has come out while on international duty. He has probably been speaking to the likes of Hazard, Kompany & Witzel who have been telling him how much money more than him that they are earning.
Mark Wilson
61 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:48:22
James Morgan (#609): "Bill the crook"? One of these days, someone will join the throng of people lining up to reinforce the reality that the days of Internet anonymity are well and truly over and sue the proverbial off someone here for claiming the Chairman – I assume that's who you refer to – has committed theft against the club.

I understand you hate the guy, I even understand a little of why James, I really do, but accusing him of actual theft is not helping any cause just venting frustration. It doesn't take your cause forward, help the Blue Union etc, it just drives people away from your position.

As for Felli... if true his words are disgusting. He's earning nearly £4m a year isn't he? He has been unavailable due to injury or suspension for nearly a third of his time here, has wonderful support from the fan base yet thinks it's clever to shit all over us like this? He's a top top player as we will see if, as he seems to be angling for, a transfer happens in January when he will command a fee not less than £25m and there will be takers.

The timing of his words is appalling, just as the club faces another round of bickering caused by the Fifa ruling on our late late transfer last week. Plus Felli's part in our season so far is... One brilliant game, one very good game and one utter couldn't-care-less performance at West Brom which along with most others was as poor as it gets from a team who we know are much much better than that....

I despair at the reality that is the stranglehold these players have on our clubs and our game. The fans help create it, we put up with being laughed at by these vastly overpaid selfish morons but then if the git scores against Newcastle I will go ape like everyone else... Is there an answer to player and agent power?

James Flynn
62 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:44:40
What a peculiar thing to say right now. He just CAN'T be this stupid. Play your socks off, get all the richest clubs drooling at the prospect of signing you, driving up your wages, etc. In short, "Do an RVP" would be the obvious route.

After all, "Rodwell agreed to terms thought to be around 100K per week" signalled Fella's departure was only a matter of how soon.

But why he'd make such a statement this time of year is baffling. Looking forward to hearing what he says when he gets back.

Michael Ward
63 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:12:32
I only said last week to my mate that as soon as everton gave him that 70k a week contract he would be sold within 2years and now here we are. We can't afford him and the big contract means we will get big money. He is a special player but the money we would get for him cold get 2 fellaini's
Michael Ward
64 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:12:32
I only said last week to my mate that as soon as everton gave him that 70k a week contract he would be sold within 2years and now here we are. We can't afford him and the big contract means we will get big money. He is a special player but the money we would get for him cold get 2 fellaini's
Ste Traverse
65 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:24:22
Beyond finishing in the top half, there is limited ambition at Everton. Fellaini can see this.

I for one, wouldn't blame him for moving on.

Kenwright will already be rubbing his hands at how much he can get for him.

Phil Walling
66 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:24:17
Fuck him! If Everton is just a meal ticket-having made a carthorse into a decent player then Moyes should get shut and build a team on the proceeds. I know they are all blatent mercenaries but he could shaft the club below the radar rather than kick it in the bollocks so early in the season.
Burn those fucking wigs,I say!
Si Cooper
67 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:18:28
I don't doubt he can earn more money at a different club, but if he has only just become aware of this fact he must be extremely thick.

I also don't have a problem for him (or anyone else) to be ambitious enough to want to play at the highest level or to have tangible success and the medals to show for it.

The timing is ridiculous though, as it can only be disruptive for the club he is tied to for another 3 months.

Why are people talking about Champions League though? Realistically, progress this season would be adequately shown by a trophy and Europa League qualification. That may not be enough to retain Fellaini but it should not precipitate a mass exodus. In fact, I would expect it to provide a decent platform for attracting up and coming players, as not everyone can play for the billionaire clubs.

Tom Dodds
68 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:26:13
Mark Wilson;

Kenwright the Shyster. Nicked the club, without 2 bob to invest, while he was already running a car he couldn't afford so to speak, and but for Moyes he wouldn't be runnin this 'vehicle' at all... And still yet wouldn't take a good profit from people with the money to help the club earlier on.....

Which is why ALL THIS TRANSFER SHIT WILL CONTINUE TILL HE IMPLODES.
Mick Davies
69 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:26:31
Jimmy Scales @ 622, not only do you have no pride in our club, wishing Judas Rooney to come back, but you are also very ignorant of current football affairs. Shrek has just given an interview where he stated his desire to end his footballing career at Old Trafford, He gushed over the aura and history of the club, the fans and the ground, and how it made him feel so proud to play for the club. Does that ring any bells? He also stated that asking for a transfer a couple of years ago was the biggest mistake in his life. And an Evertonian is expecting this despicable traitor to come driving back down the East Lancs and leave the club he adores so much?
Dan Theobalds
70 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:38:26
Any co-incidence his performance dropped after the transfer window shut??!

If what he has said is true, I'd drop him. Knee-jerk, I know but I'm livid.
Jimmy Scales
71 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:41:51
Mick davies, for a start I do have pride in my club, and to suggest I don't is clearly ignorance on your part. It is of my opinion that wayne will finish his career at everton, whether of agree with it or not I didnt actually alude to, in short, I suggest your should except eveyone one is entitled to their opinion without suggestion they have no pride in the club. Get a grip lad ffs.
Phil Walling
72 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:42:52
Bollox to Rooney-this is a Felli thread,so let`s stick to that theme.No doubt by tomorrow we shall be told he was misquoted.Yes,he allows his old man to be his spokesman and this tactic paid off when he was negotiating his new contract to c£75K a week. A couple of half decent games and the twat wants a move up to £100K .My guess is that he`d play for the Russians if they offered him that money.
Philip Roberts
73 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:36:41
I"ve got a feeling he probably thought he was going to get a move in the window just gone, looked great in the first two games, then as soon as the window shut, he looked pissed off and shit against West Brom.

If what he said proves to be true, then fuck him. If he feels that way then fair enough, but why rock the boat this early in the season?Hopefully, something lost in translation but, if not, then just another knobhead, not as good as he thinks he is.
Phil Walling
74 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:42:52
Bollox to Rooney-this is a Felli thread,so let`s stick to that theme.No doubt by tomorrow we shall be told he was misquoted.Yes,he allows his old man to be his spokesman and this tactic paid off when he was negotiating his new contract to c£75K a week. A couple of half decent games and the twat wants a move up to £100K .My guess is that he`d play for the Russians if they offered him that money.
James Flynn
75 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:51:34
I'm going to wait to hear what he says when he returns. Why would he be saying so may positives things about the Club, as recently as post-ManU victory and convincing his countryman to come to Everton, then this?

Now, if richer clubs come bearing gifts, we know what the result will be.

But this statement, so ill-timed, so out of the blue? I don't get it.

Let's see what he says on return.

Paul Ferry
76 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:43:55
Don't like this traitor stuff Mick Davies (672); shouldn't be bandied around so easily. Jimmy Scales (great name, by the way) is entitled to that view and not to be insulted.

So, to avoid being a traitor boyhood blues with talent have to spend their entire careers at The Old Lady. You fucking bastard Nugent. You bastard shitbag Lambert. You piece of turncoat shit XYZ blah blah blah, ad infinitum.

Get over it. It was a long long long time ago. Rooney is still loyal to Everton; ask his kids decked out in blue not red, wife who said she would never wear red underwear, neighbours, team-mates (1st in the dressing room after the game: 'How did Everton get on?'), SAF, who knows.

Get over it FFS. Move on. Don't get locked in the rigid past. You feel this way because he was THAT GOOD. Young talents at Finch Farm take note: (1) you cannot go anywhere else (2) do not say 'Once a Blue, always a Blue' even though Wayne still is a Blue (3) if you move to another team you no longer support the Blues, it's like never again talking to the ex-wife.

Can't believe this shit still simmers. I'd take WR back in a heartbeat, so therefore I am a traitor.

Dean Adams
77 Posted 09/09/2012 at 19:11:04
"This will be one of my last seasons."

So on the strength of that, we have so many calling him some choice names. He is still here and I would imagine if we have a great season he will be saying how great it is to play for us. He is ambitious. That is the kind of player I want in our ranks, you know, someone looking to win things and not happy to settle for mediocrity.

Peter Thistle
78 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:47:46
I find it hard to believe he actually said this, he can't be that dumb.

Hopefully it doesn't kill our season by unsettling the team. I expect him to return from international duty and clear it up with a statement saying it's all bollocks and he's happy here (for now anyway).

Hold off on the lynching just in case...

Brian Waring
79 Posted 09/09/2012 at 19:14:56
If in all his time with us he would have been doing the bizz, I could wish him all the best if he moved on Dean, but for me, apart from the second half of last season, and the first couple of games of this, he hasn't been anything special the rest of the time.
Phil Walling
80 Posted 09/09/2012 at 19:24:03
Yea, of course he`s been misquoted. He`ll be happy to grace us with his presence-at least until the next transfer window opens.I blame Bill Kenwright.
David Barks
81 Posted 09/09/2012 at 19:27:23
Dean,

Don't stop reading at that sentence. Fellaini goes on to say he could leave in January. Don't be so selective. There is a difference between being ambitious and going out publicly calling when you will be demanding to leave the club. This is so unacceptable it's almost hard to believe.

Paul David
82 Posted 09/09/2012 at 20:16:14
If a club would have came in for Fellaini in January or the end of the season then I would have held no grudges if he left. I'm surprised he's been with us this long but fuck him if he has come out publicly to say he will be leaving. When will footballers learn to keep their mouth shut and stop shitting on the fans.
Andy Meighan
83 Posted 09/09/2012 at 20:17:47
Another gobshite full of his own self-worth. If this is true, I'd love Moyes to say to him next Monday, "You're on the bench tonight."

He's not even that good, in my opinion. I've never been a fan of his languid laid-back style of play. He lacks pace, has got no left foot, and until recently had a discipline issue. He's had a couple of good games against Man Utd and Villa and all of a sudden thinks he's the dog's bollocks. If you want to go, shut the door on your way out.... dickhead!
Ian Bennett
84 Posted 09/09/2012 at 20:25:42
The saving grace is he is under contract, so a sizeable fee would arrive.

Can you imagine the reaction if it was a year odd ago and he could join a foreign club for nothing?

Ken Buckley
85 Posted 09/09/2012 at 19:36:52
Caused a bit of a stir, this one; it appears he has given these thoughts to a jurno and made his position clear. However, I wonder has he thought it through?

His length of contract remaining will give the club the option to look for top dollar. Now if he is as good as he believes, and for clubs to fork out top dollar terms, you need to be world class, then he needs to reflect on his statement that he has been with us for 5 years and seen everything. Well one thing he hasn't seen is a club/clubs knocking the door down for his services as they tend to do for world class players and have done for years.

I imagine a fair bit of backtracking on his return as he realises that the valuation Everton put on him in the era of fair play rules may well see him a touch disappointed. Still, with him or without him, the Blues roll on. Leaving us with a shed load of money may well be his most fruitful legacy. But the flannel coming in the next fortnight will be worth waiting for and digesting...
John Crook
86 Posted 09/09/2012 at 20:42:19
Maybe this Odjidja-Ofoe guy was meznt to be a replacement for Fellaini... anyways I don't really have a problem with Fellaini leaving as he was given 4 about to be 5 years decent service.

I don't think he will go this January (especially if we are doing ok in the leauge). But he is on his way to becoming a £30 million pound player (Henderson £20m????). I can imagine a bidding war with some top clubs after him. Maybe he will stay if we finish 3rd or 4th? I'd like him to stay but players come and go and EFC needs the money.
John Crook
87 Posted 09/09/2012 at 20:48:50
From Fellaini's facebook page:

Guys,

I was very surprised to read in some newspapers that I will leave Everton very soon and perhaps next January.

Let me remind you that I am very happy in Liverpool and our start of the championship was good. Kevin Mirallas and some other good players joined us to make a better squad in order to realize a good championship in the line of the end of the last one.

So with Everton, I am ready to play all the season and to reach our goals of this season. However, my only concern for the moment is of course our (Red Devils) Tuesday's game against Croatia.

Whether you're in Belgium or England, thank you from my heart for your support …

Marouane

Robert Elliott
88 Posted 09/09/2012 at 20:56:21
If he wants to go, let him go, providing we get a good price- £20m minimum. Players come and go, the club will be here forever. If I've learnt anything from following Everton over the last 25 years it's that you cannot rely on players for loyalty. The moment Felli brought United to their knees, with all the publicity it attracted, I thought there was a good chance he'd be off.

The comments as reported, if true, show him for exactly what he is- a good footballer with his own best interests at heart. Good luck to him. I cried when Lineker left, we won the league the year after. I was gutted when Rooney left, we had our best Premier League finish immediately after. Felli is good, but far from irreplaceable. I remember thinking we were screwed when Gravesen went to Madrid, in his place came Arteta. Hopefully we can find a player as good, if not better, this time around too.

Barry Rathbone
89 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:01:01
Dull as dishwater footballers, then again what does that make us lot lining their pockets and idolising them.
James Morgan
90 Posted 09/09/2012 at 19:11:30
Sorry Mark, I'll use Billy Liar from now on.

Anyway, if Felli went in January wouldn't it be sweet as hell if we got Moutinho ahead of Tottenham Cockspurs?
Luke O'Farrell
91 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:05:46
A pint of whatever James Martin is on please.

Also, Fellaini has just posted this on his official Twitter account: "Guys, just want to remind you that I'm very happy in Everton and now very concentrated for national team game! Thanks".

Link here: https://twitter.com/fellainiM/status/244888459813212160

Kris Boner
92 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:09:42
http://www.grandoldteam.com/news/transfer-news/2012/sep/09/fellaini-very-happy

No smoke without fire one would suggest...

Kevin Day
93 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:13:31
It's now on sky saying Fella is happy at Everton and is looking forward to playing all season.
Brendan McLaughlin
94 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:12:22
Dull as dishwater..supporters..what comes around ...?
Jim Knightley
95 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:05:35
Andy... one player doesn't make a football team great... a team does. Fellaini is Champions League level, as are Baines and Heitinga, imo. I think Jelavic may well be too, and Pienaar. Unfortunately, Man City and Man Utd have Champions League players on the bench, as do Chelsea, whilst Arsenal and Spurs have more than us, or at least did in Spurs' case.


Fellaini's timing is stupid, but the criticism of his ability is unjust... on his day, I would argue that Yaya is the only better central midfielder in the league. If we get £25M+ for him, I will be happy. Unfortunately, it was rather inevitable he would leave. He wasn't a secret when he came to us and he isn't now. Fingers crossed that he does the right thing and apologises though, as we don't need a problem with morale.

Andy Codling
96 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:20:38
fellainiM: @Everton Guys, just want to remind you that I'm very happy in Everton and now very concentrated for national team game! Thanks

His twitter acount just posted this!!!

Paul Johnson
97 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:08:48
I have said this many times on this site - if you want loyalty get a dog.

As long as he keeps performing in a blue shirt then I am more than happy. If he then stays, all good and well. If he goes than as long as we get top dollar that will do me.

Judging by some of the bile on this thread a lot of people will be glad to see the back of him, I am not one of them.

Jack Okell
98 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:30:49
Fellaini Explains...

Chers amis,

J'ai parcouru la presse ces dernières heures et à ma grande surprise, certains journalistes annoncent mon départ d'Everton au mois de janvier prochain.

Comme je vous l'ai souvent précisé, je suis très heureux à Everton d'autant plus qu'après ma prolongation de contrat, l'équipe a été renforcée notamment avec la venue de Kévin Mirallas.

Notre fin de saison dernière nous a permis de prouver notre place en Premier League et la direction l'a confirmé ces dernières semaines. Je suis très heureux de notre début de championnat et je serai concentré pour la suite de la saison avec Everton.
Toutefois, ma seule préoccupation actuellement est bien sûr le match de mardi contre la Croatie.

Que vous soyez en Belgique ou en Angleterre, merci du fond du coeur pour votre soutien...

Marouane.

Dear friends, I have walked the press these last hours and to my surprise, some journalists announce my departure from Everton in next January.

As I have often said you, I am very pleased to Everton as after my contract extension, the team has been strengthened with the arrival of Kevin Mirallas.

Our end of last season has allowed us to prove our place in the Premier League and the direction was confirmed in recent weeks. I am very pleased with our start of Championship and I'll be concentrated for the rest of the season with Everton.

However, my only concern is currently of course the match Tuesday against Croatia.

Whether you are in Belgium or in England, thank you from the bottom of my heart for your support...

Marwan

On Bluekipper's Facebook 25mins ago

Peter Laing
99 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:27:28
Fellaini is top drawer, his last two performances against Manchester United demonstrated his class and his development over the past five years at Everton and under Moyes is there for all to see. He has gone from a very raw and precocious talent with a penchant for stupid niggly fouls and disciplinary issues to the player that we have today – world class.

The reality is that Everton do not have the power or capability to pay the obscene wages being offered to players these days, £70k is probably our ceiling and Rodwell in comparison is earning circa £100k per week. If Fellaini wants away, there is little we can do, the vast profit can be reinvested into the team and Everton will carry on. We are fans and loyalty to us is a given, I agree with Paul Johnson: if you want loyalty get a dog.
Ian Smitham
100 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:33:07
He is our best player by a million miles. He is our most prized asset, probably by more than a few million pounds. I assume that those doubters about his ability do not watch him play. Certainly others obviously do as he is constantly linked with moves to some of the diners at the top table.

As with Johnny, seems Quotes to foreign (to us) media seem to get misread/mis translated and it leads to a lack of harmony. Maybe as one contributor suggested, Moyes should stop players making statements without some sort of club clearance.

Sadly, at the first sign of something not right, contributors are quick to be scathing of the players, sometimes I wonder if that is why the players themselves appear to mirror that lack of the loyalty we so desire.

If we are so quick to criticise the players often with vile comments then what loyalty can we expect of them?

Shaun Brennan
101 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:50:55
Ian, I'd have to say baines is our best player, most valuable asset...

If Fellaini want's to move on, fair play; 5 years at a club and nothing to show for it... so be it.

Ian Smitham
102 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:47:10
MK

It is your trainset, but are you letting comment 609 stay ?

Michael Kenrick
103 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:05:57
609?

What are seeing there, Ian, that I should pull?

Ian Smitham
104 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:09:13
MK, I respect you and the work you put into the site. It seems to me that "Bill the crook" might just get you into hot water. If I am wrong sorry to waste your time, and delete my contributions around this aspect, just a thought and trying to be a help.
Peter Warren
105 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:05:23
I've seen Fellaini out – shy, modest, had time for me, and didn't seem like a big head at all.

I've seen him play and I think he's brilliant. I thought he'd move and he signed for 5-years citing the club took a chance on him and he owed us loyalty. I've seen fans get on his back especially when he first joined and I've never seen him hide. I thought he was our best player in the cup final although I've seen him go missing in most derbies.

I love him playing for us, he's class, a good player, and an entertainer, and I don't for one minute pay attention to or believe the quotes attributed to him. He'd have to be an idiot to say what he supposedly said and I think he's an intelligent kid.

Julian Batti
106 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:06:51
The oldest trick in the book of journalism: put an open question to a sportsman of average or below average IQ, e.g., when you ask him/her to weigh the pros and cons of something. Then you print all the cons and leave out the pros. For this reason many a celebrity, Gore Vidal for instance, is reluctant to give interviews to representatives of the print press; giving live interviews is the best strategy for articulate guys.
Michael Kenrick
107 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:15:58
Ah, Okay, thanks for pointing that out.

Bill's been called many things by fans who don't buy into the luuvy stuff... I'm not sure this is all that different to those claiming (apparently without foundation) that he is creaming money out of the club.

If there is trouble, though, it will be redirected to James Morgan; he's responsible for posting it. Part of the reason we require real names and active e.mail addresses...

John Malone
108 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:15:05
What can Moyes say to him if it's true?

DM: "Marouane, what the fuck are you playing at? You are one of my best assets and a big part of my plans here for the future."

MF: "Like you give a shit, gaffer you haven't signed a new contract, you'll be off in the summer unless we get bought out, or by some miracle qualify for the Champions League"

DM: "Shhhhhhh!! Big Gob!!, Once that Villas Boas cocks up again, I'll be right in there. Make a statement saying it's a load a bollox big misunderstanding, get your head down, keep your form good and you can be my first signing, big perm!!"

Jamie Sweet
109 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:30:12
This does not bode well for my Uncle's wig shop.
Shaun Lyon
110 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:27:21
Julian, I think even Gore Vidal might struggle with a live interview in his current state though he'd probably carry it off without comment on say, Daybreak or The One Show...

As to Fellaini, regardless of what he's said or alleged to have said, I can't believe there are people on here claiming we wouldn't miss him, he's not even that good etc. He's our best player, a potentially world-class footballer. Personally I was slightly amazed we held on to him this summer. Depressing possibly, but true.
Clive Lewis
111 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:51:34
Marouane Fellainiþ@fellainiM

@Everton Guys, just want to remind you that I'm very happy in Everton and now very concentrated for national team game! Thanks

Felaini tweeted 53 minutes ago

Clive Lewis
112 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:51:58
This is his agent talking. Maybe he will go, if a top European team comes in for him and that he thinks he will get a game and also he will get £100 grand a week.
Julian Batti
113 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:55:26
Clive, you are confusing me. Are you saying that the agent is dictating what Fellaini is to write on Twitter or are you referring to a different news item in which the agent has expressed his own views on the matter?
Ian Smitham
114 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:59:07
Tony #593 Just wondered, about him, off field, can you be a bit more specific with any examples please?
Trevor Lynes
115 Posted 09/09/2012 at 23:00:42
A hell of a lot of posts about this and what I ask is why are people surprised? I have been saying for ages that holding on to our Britsish players must be a priority.

I've read about Heitinga being unsettled and now it's Fellaini. These players do not join EFC out of any love for the club, its a career move.

I can speak from 'REAL' experience having spent more than 25 years of my working life abroad. They come here firstly to advance their salaries and then to be in the shop window to the highest bidder. The ONLY players with loyalty to a club are home grown.

Let's face it... English is not their first language and they are ambitious!! I hope I have made my point... we should be hanging on for dear life to Baines, Jagielka etc and build the team around them.

Liam Morton
116 Posted 09/09/2012 at 23:15:51
I've just seen some quotes from Fellaini on Sky Sports and other outlets "more or less" bullshitting the whole story from before. "I was very surprised to read in some newspapers that I will leave Everton very soon perhaps even in January." (There is more than just this also.)

I accept that even these quotes don't give any guarantees he is totally committed and won't consider his future next summer but it really annoyed me before how many of you got on his back before there was even any official confirmation. Some people are far too quick to have their say even when nothing was proven!
Paul Ferry
117 Posted 09/09/2012 at 23:22:03
MK, just a quick question as your answer before set me wondering just a tad. Am I wrong, am I right? Don't you and the others in charge at Toffeeweb Towers have ultimate responsibility for what appears on here, as hosts and moderators? So, you combed through and allowed aforementioned Billy the crook post to appear here, your choice, your call, your responsibility, your site.

Just asking. I need to know coz I have a brill, Norman Wisdom funny, side-splitting, on the nail, Bletchley Park smart one-liner/moniker up my sleeve about that fucking crook. Oops.

Sam Hoare
118 Posted 09/09/2012 at 23:42:45
Dunno what is less surprising, that the journalist misquoted him or that the fickle fans on here turned on him in an instant and dismiss him as useless.

And to think we demand loyalty!

Zaid Omar
119 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:02:22
Message is out loud and clear... Mission accomplished for Fellaini and his agent... Lost in translation - bullshit.. He is just trying to save face with the fans for the remaining months that he is at the club.
John Crook
120 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:02:55
What's the chance he gets booed when the announcer says "Number 25 — Marouane Fellaini!!!" at the Newcastle game??
James Flynn
121 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:01:32
At least what he tweeted is from him.

That he could leave, I get. We have the same ownership group sold Rooney.

But that he'd freely state he's leaving, in some National Team media Q&A? Baffling.

Interested to find out how the original article "quoted" him.

Paul Ferry
122 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:06:53
Dear Lord Sam Hoare. No-one on this board has called MF 'useless'. Show me one. You won't find one. So, next time, when you come on here with your trifling gloating get if right, okay.

And, how do you know that big Belgo was misquoted by rat-race journo? Were you there? Has MF said anything today to allay any concerns we might or any concerns that he might have about having words put in his mouth? Big fucking NO!!!

"I will play for Everton where I am happy until the end of the season." Now, tell me, is there a single word in all of that to contradict original report/post? You know the answer: big fucking NO!!!

The moral of this? Get it right, think before you write, don't characterize and summarize things until you are sure you have got it absolutely spot on. Keep mum if you are not sure that you have done these things.

A shoddy on-my-high-chair head-in-the-sand Hoare post. Hang on, – sorry – ought to have read: 'another 'shoddy on-my-high-chair head-in-the-sand Hoare post'.

Andy Crooks
123 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:15:13
Jim (#704), I'm not sure if it's my post you are referring to but...

If, as you suggest, we have a few Champions League quality players, do you not think that, well paid as they are, some sense of loyalty to their team mates and supporters would entice them to stick here and give it a proper go?

Also, for some strange and slightly endearing reason, Premier League footballers seem to believe that, if they can't see us, then, like a toddler playing hide and go seek, we can't see them.

Andy Corrie
124 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:20:32
Oh dear, sounds like Mr Felli two-face again... saw this one coming.
James Flynn
125 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:12:50
Zaid - We're a selling Club. We sold fucking Rooney. I love Fella but he aint Wayne.

We already knew what's coming once Rodwell's contract was announced. Fella on £70k, Rodwell on £100k?

Fella only had to keep up his play this season then sit home sorting thru the invites piling up at his doorstep.

We'll have to see the origins of this story and I'm willing to wait.

Derek Thomas
126 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:25:06
Translation: Both me an my Dad think I'm shit hot, come and get me. If there are bidders out there, they will only knock if they agree with Pere et Fils Re the shithottedness.

£30M min + and they pay any add-ons to Standard... Deal!!!

Derek Thomas
127 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:43:34
Paul Ferry #641; not just Irony mate, fuckin Goldie
Mark Wilson
128 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:24:30
James Morgan, #609. James, I know you may well regard my taking issue with your "crook" comment as very dull and yep it probably is, and to be fair you have not taken the opportunity to have a pop at me so fair enough. Interesting that the "risk" in what you said hasn't gone unnoticed in the thread and MK and Ian have looked at the comment and truth be told, I've seen much much worse ! But seriously, it's one thing to hate the guy but coming out and posting stuff that is surely close to a lawyers interpretation of libel etc isn't going to help win an argument about Bill or the Board, it will just get the individual into a legal mire and despite MK's confidence I'm not sure that TW can walk away from that kind of hassle as easy as it sounds ?

Tom Dodds.... I wasn't actually getting into another debate on Bill or his Board. I just thing the rhetoric needs calming down a bit as its turning off even those who want to understand the position better and it somehow continues to come across as schoolyard, which surely can't help ? In any event my position on Bill stopped being "apologist" a long time ago, not that I felt it deserved the tag. But I don't hate him, don't abuse him and tho I've little time for his friend Mr Earl I can't see how making up silly names for Bills mates, like "Mr Whippy" get anyone's views across. I will probably annoy you even more by saying I rate Robert Elstone highly and think the new comms guy is at least trying to debate the issues, tho he may have got a couple of things wrong recently. But none of this should be read as saying that those of us not in the Blue Union fail to see the financial woes or the impact now and in the future.

Anyway, getting back on thread, I have read Fellani's twitter and FB stuff and it's all very nice but feels horribly like "mission accomplished" as another poster said. So here's the thing, if that newspaper has utterly lied and blatently misquoted Fellani to in effect create a complete falsehood and damage the guys reputation, then I assume Fellani will say so and take a bit of legal action of his own, won't he ?
Yet I can't see anything but mild surprise in Fellani's "who me" statement and certainly not indignant outrage at such lies ?

James Flynn
129 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:59:35
I'll stick with his twitter comments. We all know the bids from moneyed clubs are coming.

Just kick ass this season, son. I'll settle for that.

Clive Lewis
130 Posted 10/09/2012 at 01:08:27
Well I think he has probably been advised to stick himself in the shop window probably by agents. He is obviously just giving the heads up to major money bags clubs. Then denying it, I don't see how you can be miss quoted so much with that statement.
Clive Lewis
131 Posted 10/09/2012 at 01:15:50
I love the Fellaini twitter icon and picture. Shame about this... could have made some tee-shirts up with that logo on his twitter page.

http://twitter.com/fellainiM

Jason Heng
132 Posted 10/09/2012 at 01:27:33
Any luck that the club has spent all the money meant for the banks and has now told Fellani he is good to go?
James Muller
133 Posted 10/09/2012 at 02:05:03
Gutted if and when he goes. He's a star.

Under contract for 5 years so, £30mill next Summer?

Don't believe a word written these days at all though. Fucking soap opera.

Tom Bowers
134 Posted 10/09/2012 at 03:06:48
It's amazing how one little snippet in a newspaper can create such diverse opinions. One should realise that newspaper reported conversations are notoriously exaggerrated and taken totally out of context merely to create controversy and unrest.

It is very hard to take anything seriously these days but, even if it is true that Fella wants to leave, then Moyes should make him play in the reserves until the right offer comes in. With his mind distracted, he wil be of little use to Everton and Moyes should play someone else more dedicated to the cause.

Sure, Fella is playing better... but I believe it is partially down to great contributions by several other players. We will find out soon enough by his performances in the next few games.
Eric Myles
135 Posted 10/09/2012 at 02:20:39
Kevin (#656), I thought he was on £70k a month when he renewed his contract?
Peter Jones
136 Posted 10/09/2012 at 04:04:24
For all we know, the article could be published by the best buddy of the same asshole that continues to act as though Leighton Baines is heading to Man Utd every transfer window. Honestly, who cares?

Until he leaves, he's an Everton player, and a damn good one at that. And if he does leave in the near future, the £25-30 million we'll receive for him should make our squad one of the deepest in the prem, considering what Moyes cooked up after the Rodwell sale.

Whichever way it shakes out, I really don't see that many negatives. If we keep him, we continue to be a dangerous team. If we sell him, we buy more players to replace him, fill our holes at center midfield and right back, and become a deeper team. I don't see what the fuss is about.
Mick Davies
137 Posted 10/09/2012 at 03:51:54
Paul Ferry, I'm afraid you are completely missing the point. When Rooney left our club, he'd only given us 2 seasons. This, from a lad who'd been coached and nurtured from childhood by Everton; he pulled up his top, aged 15, declaring his dedication to MY club; he went from £80 pw to £10,000 pw overnight and told a press conference he wanted to captain Everton, score a goal in the derby and only ever wanted to run out to Z cars.

A few months later he went AWOL to film a Coca Cola ad in Portugal. Then he went off to the Euros a blue, with all us proud Evertonians cheering him on. During the summer break he and his scumbag agent engineered a move without the club's knowledge, keeping quiet until it was too late for us to spend the measly drip fed cut-price we had to accept. His agent got more than the club over the next few years in merchandising etc.

Then he scores against us and runs over to our fans kissing the Man Utd badge. At the time, everyone on Merseyside - except his family - hated him, I bet that included yourself. He releases a book slagging our manager and staff, unjustly as the court case proved. Now, after giving his best years to a club we detest, you forgive him for disrespecting EFC and would welcome him back "in a heartbeat?".


Well my heart pumps Royal Blue blood and I have too much self-respect to lower myself by cheering on that granny shagging snide. To cap it all, you don't have a clue about recent football news. If you'd read my earlier post properly, you'd know that he attended a press conference a few days ago to apologise for treating MUFC with disrespect by asking for a transfer a couple of years back, and said he wants to end his career at OT.

So where is the apology to the club he supported as a boy? Wake up and smell the toffee, our club just keeps getting shat on by gobshites like him. The only good report lately was the praise heaped on Everton by Straq, and he never supported the club
Bjørn-Ivar Pedersen
138 Posted 10/09/2012 at 04:32:12
Only one thing to say:

££££££££££££££££
Jamie Sweet
139 Posted 10/09/2012 at 04:40:28
Regarding Mick Davis #766 - I'm not sure that the interview with Straq ever made it on to the pages of toffeeweb. For anyone who missed it, you should check it out (it's on the official site I think) because it's a real "feel good" article, unlike the shite above.
Vijay Badhan
140 Posted 10/09/2012 at 04:21:10
Don't Know if this story is True, so I will reserve judgement on that till we get more details. However, I have never really seen what all the hype is about with Fellaini?

He is obviously a tall guy, so that does put the fear into a lot of physically smaller men... and occasionally he is very strong in the air, but I don't see this amazingly skilled central midfield player that every one else seems to see; I think we would easily cope without him.

Maybe young Ross, who looks like a very good prospect, could step up to the plate alongside Gibson who I feel has really allowed Fellaini to shine, a fact which most people have overlooked.
Mike Green
141 Posted 10/09/2012 at 05:03:12
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2012/09/04/stracqualursi-s-beautiful-dream-

Straq article attached, top man.

Karl Meighan
143 Posted 10/09/2012 at 07:11:22
If this is true he has a fuckin cheek, Felliani still hasnt justified the 15m paid, one top game against Man Utd and he thinks he's one of the great midfielders. Felliani hasnt put together five games of the standard he showed against Man Utd never mind twenty five in a season that you get from a true top quality midfield general.

This fella has a short memory the shite he turned in last season before the arrival of Gibson was awfull, plus the teams results were better in previous seasons when he was injured.

No doubt Felliani has potential and quality but unless he can keep the Man Utd type performances going which he has failed to do since he signed, which top club would buy him to use up top as a type of target man?

Lets be realistic if Felliani had produced year in year out top clubs would have been banging the door down, the fact is his performances have been no where near that of a 30m midfielder playing consistently at the top of his game.

Sam Hoare
144 Posted 10/09/2012 at 07:33:23
Paul Ferry, 741. I'm confused, am I in a high chair or do I have my head in the sand? It seems both would be difficult. Unless the chair had fallen over?!

You say no-one on this thread has called MF useless but about 5 comments in we have:

'Who gives a flying? Vastly overrated, inconsistent and an arrogant piece of sh*t off the field'

Followed swiftly by

'Good riddance, £30million please.'

And then:

'The most overrated player to play for us in recent times. I was devastated when Arteta left and sad when Cahill did, I‘ll be overjoyed when Fellaini leaves.

Everything was going so right at Everton until he joined, the player to supposedly take us forward set us back. He craps out of every derby game as well.'

As for him being misquoted read this later direct quote from him '"I was very surprised to read in some newspapers that I will leave Everton very soon and perhaps next January. Let me remind you that I am very happy in Liverpool and our start of the championship was good.'

So can I suggest you follow your own advice and actually have a look at the information to hand before you come on here and accuse other people of being ill-informed or else you will look like a bit of a hypocritical git!

David Chait
145 Posted 10/09/2012 at 08:02:46
Some of the comments above are mind boggling... I expected people to be angry or disappointed.. but really... he cant go from being midfield hero taking premiership giants apart singlehandedly and being probably the most influential midfielder we have had in the last 4 years (undeniably irreplacable) to being crap and not worth the money we paid for him, just because he said some stupid, or was misquoted.

thanks for pointing those out Sam.. man some people can lose all sense of rationality at the drop of a hat!

Allan Barratt
146 Posted 10/09/2012 at 08:05:14
Personally I wouldn't be surprised if he left, the cynical side of me thought after his 2 goals in the first 2 games he celebrated by pointing to his name on his back. Third game, after transfer window has closed he was shite. Was he playing for a move? Putting himself in the shop window?
James Morgan
147 Posted 10/09/2012 at 07:58:52
Mark Wilson, okay maybe I can't prove he is a crook and perhaps shouldn't have said that, but surely I can prove he is a liar.
Didn't he say Rooney wouldn't be sold for any less than £50m?

I'm sure there is something called free speech anyway and I haven't made any particular allegation against BK with specifics of 'dealings.'

I could also say Steven Gerrard is a gob shite.

I'd like to see whats on the United message boards against the Glazers, or Rovers against Venkys/Keen!

Anyway, I digress. I see Fellaini has come out to dismiss these reports as crap. Interesting to see his reception against Newcastle.
Drew Shortis
148 Posted 10/09/2012 at 08:46:29
This is why the team needs a good season (IE Champions League next year plus a cup) to convince our top players it is worth staying and to attract new signings. It is understandable that a talented player will want to be as successful as he can be, and finishing 7th and 8th year in, year out obviously doesn't qualify as success for someone like Fellaini. If I was a foreign player who's stock was on the rise I would be looking to the likes of Chelsea, Man Utd or Man City. After all he is not a life long Evertonian and we would get a very good fee for him, so why all the bitterness. I desperately hope we have a great season and he will choose to stay and win things with us. If we don't have a great season then we only have ourselves to blame.
Ged Simpson
149 Posted 10/09/2012 at 08:57:24
Fellaini in Sky : ""I was very surprised to read in some newspapers that I will leave Everton very soon and perhaps next January," wrote Fellaini in a statement published on his Facebook page.

"Let me remind you that I am very happy in Liverpool and our start of the championship was good.

"I was very surprised to read in some newspapers that I will leave Everton very soon and perhaps next January."

Glad I wasn't on Toffeeweb over the weekend or I'd be feeling a bit silly this morning too !

Ged Simpson
150 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:00:33
James - perhaps we should boo him just so we don't feel silly ?
Peter Murphy
151 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:02:33
Well Moyes will get to the bottom of it today I suspect. If it's genuine and not out of context or mis-quoted very sad, his performance against United was one of the best I have seen, even on TV by an Everton plater since Graham Sharpe in his pomp.
I think he might get benched after a fee with one of the 'big' clubs has been agreed for January, or he will apologise and it will be a storm in a tea cup.
Paul Olsen
152 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:15:26
Reading only through some of the first comments on this one.

The bile some people just wait for an opportunity to post on this site......
I come here for a different opinion, but this is just too much.

Ged Simpson
153 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:18:39
So true Paul - but to get a knee reaction, you have to have the jerk !
Andy Meighan
154 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:13:56
Ian (#709), please name me one other club apart from Chelsea that's been linked with him in the 4 seasons he's been here. I can't remember anyone in this country or across Europe that has courted him, because the reality is they've probably looked at him and gone, "Mmmm... he's got something but we're not quite sure what it is..."

I'd love to know (like other posters on here) what his best position is because, let's face it, not even his own manager knows. I'm certain there won't be a bidding war because I don't think enough BIG HITTERS *cough* will come in for him. Quite frankly, imo he's vastly overrated.
Eric Myles
155 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:17:59
David #784, I don't see any conflict in the postings, there are some like you who think he's the bees knees, and others who think he's not.

Personally I don't think he's that good although he's had a few good games for us.

James Morgan
156 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:25:38
Ged, unfortunately I won't be there but I certainly wouldn't advocate booing the lad. He has dismissed the quotes so I'll go along with that.

I'm just wondering if there will be a few murmurings and grumbles in the crowd.
Tony J Williams
157 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:35:46
Good point early on about players being "ambitious", how can going to a team being at the top of the game and certain for some silverware be ambitious?

What it translates to is, "I think I deserve some medals on my dresser so I am moving somewhere where I will definitely win something" Ambition.....not a chance.

Andy Meighan
158 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:27:30
Mick (#766) — absolutly spot on, mate!

Best post I've read on here and totally right.
Thomas Windsor
159 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:36:59
If he wants to go for a big money move, good for us that he is under contract. But give the manager all the funds to find replacements and we will still have a good season.
Paul Thompson
160 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:31:22
To the jerks: feel free to indulge your childish outrage and over-reaction, but spare us the 'he is a load of shit anyway' crap. Fellaini is our most talented player. Ask fans of other clubs, who would love to have him. Yes, I know... they can have him then...blah blah blah.
Martin Mason
161 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:42:18
James@786

There is no free speech in the UK and where there is free speech it has to come with the responsibility to use it sensibly. I personally would sue you if were BK.

Prove that BK said that he wouldn't sell Rooney for >J50.0 MM and what if he changed his mind anyway, free speech and all that.

Viv Sharma
162 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:42:49
has anyone mentioned his Facebook page yet?
Have I been suckered by yet another fake page? probably.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Marouane-Fellaini/100567087766

Ciarán McGlone
163 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:50:58
Let's hope he keeps up the performances that have made him think he's capable of making it in a top 4 team...

As for his retraction/denial... well, it's not really a retraction is it... "I never said any of that, I'm gonna sue the pants of those crappy hacks" — now that's a denial..

Barry Roberts
164 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:58:33
Before I log onto Ebay and flog it to a chelski fan, does anyone want to buy my bigass fro wig?
Brent Stephens
165 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:58:17
As per Paul Thompson #806 and others, I too am amazed that some on here can now have such a negative opinion of Fella's footballing abilities, when this hasn't been an issue for them in recent times. Negative views on the desire to get out - ok, if true.
Matthew Tait
166 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:58:05
Honestly, is anyone really surprised that Fellaini feels this way? I'd be surprised if he didn't want to leave. He could be playing for any number of Champions League clubs, on much higher wages, and he's been at Everton for several years already. It would be a pretty surprising lack of ambition in today's game if he wasn't thinking about leaving. I'm just glad he did us a big favour and signed that 5-year deal last year, we'll make a pretty penny on him when we sell him, certainly over £20m and quite possibly over £25m if he has a good season. Of course, if we somehow make the CL ourselves, maybe he might reconsider...

The only thing that is surprising is that he was so open with a journalist. Most probably he was a bit naive, and said some unguarded things to a 'friendly' journalist that he thought were off the record. Lesson learned buddy.

James Morgan
167 Posted 10/09/2012 at 10:03:09
Martin Mason,

For a start, I did say I shouldn't have said Billy 'Crook' but I think that's pretty mild compared to some of the vitriol spouted on here, wouldn't you agree?

As for suing, get a grip lad, he'd be up to his specs and then some with lawsuits if he sued everyone who said anything remotely bad about him. I don't recall saying 'Bill did x and y and broke the law etc'

Not much weight to suing someone from what I said is there?

Can we get back to talking about Fellaini now?

Martin Mason
168 Posted 10/09/2012 at 10:35:40
OK then, if we must :-)

Sometimes people do sue just to make an example of somebody and to deter others. Robert Maxwell was a f*cker for it. Just shows what a bloody great guy Bill is.

Pablo Connelly
169 Posted 10/09/2012 at 10:42:32
That's it, Felli, I am officially withdrawing the offer of my wife. Your loss sunshine, your loss!

It does make you wonder what goes on during the international breaks? There is absolutley nothing to stop his agent and the player from meeting other clubs representatives. It's happened before and will happen again. Of course I am speculating but it does go on.

Lescott's quote about being an 'excited fan' of Man City 6 months before his move was a clear strategy designed to manufacture the move. I think the tapping up side of it is why Moyes dug his heels in then.

Lessons are learned though I would expect if there is a serious buyer out there a deal will be sorted at the right price in January or the summer. Moyes will then do what he does best, he will make us better with the proceeds.

We all need to accept the way of things. The same process will happen with Jelavic and Mirallas if he is good enough, simple as. It will stay that way until the finances change.

Shane Corcoran
170 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:02:19
Sky Sports had this story when it first broke. They have subsequently put up the story of Fellaini stating that it was untrue and that he's happy in Liverpool.

Surely Toffeeweb should follow suit, or at least insert one of those "Update" sub-headings. We wouldn't want the site to be accused of being negative or only telling the controversial side of the story.

James Morgan
171 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:00:56
Martin, if only Bill had Maxwell's money!

Does anybody else think international breaks at this point in the season is just ridiculous?

Oliver Molloy
172 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:04:03
We all know that the big man wants to play at the highest level and after 5 years with us he most likely has come to the conclusion it's not going to happen with Everton unless we get big investment – and that I don't think is going to happen in the next year or two!

Fellaini has seen his Belgian team mates join clubs that are playing in the CL and also have genuine chances of winning league's and cups. I personally don't think he would have signed a new contract with us unless it suited him to do so – in other words, I believe a deal has been done that will benefit both him and hopefully us.

When I watched Fellaini against Man Utd, I could not help thinking he was out to impress, and given at that stage there were still 9 or 10 days left in the transfer window, the cynic in me said "He is playing for a move". The same could be said for the Villa game. And then the transfer window closes and he was just okay at West Brom!

Fellaini has allegedly said "I have seen everything", presumably referring to Everton. What could he be referring to?... Broken promises etc etc etc... I am not all surprised he would want to leave Everton..
Paul Holden
173 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:29:19
Let him rot in the rezzies and then get shut asap. One good game and he thinks he's the dog's bollox. His timing in terms of putting himself out there is fecking shyte and will unsettle the team!
David Chait
174 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:27:08
Eric 799 .. hehe.. you're probably right.. I'm just on the side of those that think he is the shiz niz and don't understand anyone who can't see it... beginning of last season I even wrote an article on TW stating he is the differentiator for us to all other midfields.. Man City have closed that gap but I still think we have something no other team has in Fellaini.

Reading the many many comments on here I admit I didnt do an historical review of opinion, just based it on overall sentiment.

Amit Vithlani
175 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:23:28
Marouane Fellaini - top class midfielder. Dominant, athletic, determined. Will be a very sad day when he leaves, but nowadays we are a selling club.

If he does go, I look forward to who next our scouting network identifies. We have become a stepping stone for players under this ownership regime. Until that changes, we have to get used to it.

Danny Kewley
176 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:41:45
Type or paste your comment here. No txt-speak, please try to use proper grammar, all-lowercase posts are likely to be deleted
Kev Johnson
177 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:51:17
Here's the Sky Sports link... (Apologies in advance if I bugger up the codes!) Sky sports news
Kev Johnson
178 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:54:53
Get in there!
David Cullen
179 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:58:40
I can't believe that he would come out with comments like that at the beginning of the season. Blabbing to the Belgian newspapers shows no empathy and is very disrespectful to Everton and the fans. Hero to zero.

What's wrong with these people!!!!!!!
Matt Traynor
180 Posted 10/09/2012 at 12:21:29
Kev, I know the feeling, I was like that when I successfully HTML coded my first link!
Alex Higgins
181 Posted 10/09/2012 at 12:11:21
If this Fellaini quote wanting to leave Everton is true, does not this invalidate his contract of employment with Everton?

I seem to remember a certain Keith Wyness promoting his services to another employer while employed by Everton. He was sacked, no messing.

Kevin Tully
182 Posted 10/09/2012 at 12:17:48
He doesn't deny any of the quotes that were attributed to him.

He has not said he is staying with Everton until his present contract expires.

He said he is happy - I would be happy on £70k a week as well !!

No problem with any player showing ambition, but show some respect to the club who are making you their highest paid player.

Tony J Williams
183 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:50:19
"Just shows what a bloody great guy Bill is" = WUM
Tony McNulty
184 Posted 10/09/2012 at 12:34:08
What's the fuss?

He has given us five years.

His Dad has been in his earhole for ages saying, 'move on' (and we all know this from previous publicity).

He will want to test himself at the very top (i.e. CL) and to quote the words of one former Croxteth resident, "With respect, that won't be at Everton."

If we were able to compete in the CL then things might just change. But competing in the CL is a long shot at Goodison without an injection of capital. And Bill doesn't have the money, as he keep telling us. And so we go on.

When's our next game?

Mick Davies
185 Posted 10/09/2012 at 12:29:26
We football fans are truly are a a weird species: we give a vast amount of money and time, not to mention risk of injury or worse, inconvenience to our lives, suffer abuse and misery (but also enjoy the few good times) just to pay homage to an obscenely overpaid bunch of young men who we don't know personally and will probably never meet socially. If our boss asked us to stay and work late without pay, we'd go apoplectic and think he was a cheeky bastard. This is why we get so upset when one of the icons who receive our weekly adulation goes out of his way to piss all over us. And before anyone says he has come out and said otherwise, where is the denial? Where is the threat of legal action against the 'offending' media outlet? and why has this happened before with him and not Baines, Cahill, Jags, Distin or any of the other dozens of players over the years who have given us loyal service? I for one am fed up with the Barmby's Rooney's, Gosling's, Lescott's and Jeffers et al of this world who show disloyalty to thousands of extremely loyal fans who, without their support, wouldn't enable these prima donnas to earn the grossly inflated salaries they pick up. That's why I don't forgive these people and as an Evertonian, I never will
Bob Willis
186 Posted 10/09/2012 at 12:33:59
I think one particular fellow on here has far too much to say and has had far too much rope.

The laws of libel/ slander may seem a very long way from the happygolucky/tongue in cheek postings made on these boards but one day someone is going to get unstuck. One day the worm will turn.

JM Stop digging your grave mate - pack it in and give us all a rest.

Martin Mason
187 Posted 10/09/2012 at 12:57:20
Tony@836

Has anybody ever accused you of being humourless?

Karl Meighan
188 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:19:56
I don't think anyone is saying Felliani is crap regardless of what he may or may not have said, but some people are also getting carried away with the two top performances he put in against Utd and Villa. I have yet to see Felliani have a great season at Everton, this is not bile Paul@796 or a knee jerk reaction Ged@797 but a opinion and I believe simple fact.

Lets hope this doesn't knock Felliani and he can keep producing outstanding displays and prove that he is in the 30m bracket.

There can be little doubt that if a top club playing Champions league football year upon year comes in for any of are players they would have to seriously consider the offer. Lets hope Felliani and the rest of the squad can challenge for these places but much higher consistency has to be achieved out on the pitch over a longer period imo.

Matthew Tait
189 Posted 10/09/2012 at 12:54:28
Well Mick (838), to be honest all I can do is suggest you find another thing to care about other than professional football. The days of club loyalty might have meant something in the years when wages were low and players tended to play for their local clubs. These days, forget about it. It's pure fantasy to expect Fellaini or any other foreign player to have some sort of special loyalty to Everton.

We're quite happy to have our clubs fork over the coin for expensive foreign mercenaries, to compete with the biggest clubs; that being the case, we have to accept that our foreign mercenaries owe us no special loyalty. When their profile gets big enough, they will move on for brighter lights and bigger salaries, and there's no point crying about it.

Fellaini's only mistake was to be unguarded in his comments. That was dumb, and needlessly hurtful, even though he was only saying to the wrong person what we all should have well known he was thinking.

Also, for what it's worth, he has already come out with a denial. It's meaningless of course, but at least he's playing the PR game now.

Tony J Williams
190 Posted 10/09/2012 at 13:04:32
Many times Martin, but I just laugh loudly and tell them a joke.

Two fish in a tank. One turns around and asks, "How do you drive this?"

Nick Entwistle
191 Posted 10/09/2012 at 13:05:45
There's a good number of our squad who can play for more money and in the champions league. Fellaini isn't the only one with an eye on this in the future.

I think there are a few factors for these players...

1, When Everton going to get in the top 4?
2, Am I selling myself short for every year I am not in the CL?
3, How many more seasons do I have as a top pro?

I think those are questions are right and proper for any top line footballer and Everton can only do so much for a players potential if No.1 is no time soon.

This season is important because without top 4, it could mean adios to Moyes, Baines, Fallaini, Heitinga, Jelavic... the list goes on. And Mirallas would be off too if he sets the Prem alight.

James Morgan
192 Posted 10/09/2012 at 13:34:01
Bob Willis

Before you decided to stick your two penneth in you might have cared to look at two of my previous posts trying to get away from the BK debate.

One off-the-cuff line appears to be getting slightly snowballed by people like you.


Martin Mason
193 Posted 10/09/2012 at 14:03:49
Tony@844

That bloody well explains everything. I don't get it :-)

Suresh Gill
194 Posted 10/09/2012 at 13:36:19
I would've put money on him wanting to leave. His father was quite reluctant renewing his contract last year. We couldn't afford to lose him with his contract expiring so most likely condition to signing a new contract last season was a deal to let him go if he wanted to.

On the upside if he keeps playing well we might get good money for him. We are a selling club and no surprises anymore for me.
Callum Wilson
195 Posted 10/09/2012 at 14:13:28
Sky link if anyone is looking http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11671/8068705/Fellaini-happy-at-Everton
Martin Mason
196 Posted 10/09/2012 at 14:05:17
How things have changed. I remember the £20/week maximum wage, player loyalty, the tyranny of club owners, and I have seen how it has changed. You can't stop the change of course but as always there has been nothing to check the surge in player/agent power especially post Sky and post Bosman. As they have become richer they have become all powerful and the owners and managers have been reduced in stature.

EFC are where they are because as a club we were totally underfinanced to withstand the maelstrom that hit soccer. As fans, most of us are only just beginning to realise that loyalty has gone forever and the shock is that we fans have stayed loyal when players and even the privatised clubs themselves have no links to us. We have become influenceless customers and yet we are still loyal as mainly working class people who still have fantastic tribal support for our club and players even though any pretentions they have as working class entities are long gone.

I sometimes ask myself why I pay a Sky subscription and pay a lot of money to go to the match now and again to pay for the lavish lifestyle of the EPL players – and by that I include management and agents. I think I carry on supporting EFC because we do so well when we shouldn't; because we have an eccentric peniless chairman; because we aren't franchised or in the grips of a paymaster with no connection to club, area or fanbase that could disappear when he wants; because we pay our overpaid players less than other overpaid players.

One day soon I may stop but in the meantime the last thing that I'll expect is loyalty from any of our players. I guess Timmy Cahill was the last of the Corinthians – or was he just a mercenary too?
James Morgan
197 Posted 10/09/2012 at 14:31:18
Martin, there is supposedly backing for a proposed salary cap for when the new PL cash comes in next season to prevent it going to the players and agents.
I fear it may be too late. Maybe if Fifa 10 years ago said a player could earn no more than say £80k per week across all the associations, we wouldn't be where we are now.

If they did it now there is no way you could cut all these massive £250k salaries down or even freeze them, and if they even did the latter we would still be way behind until a multi billionaire replaces BILL KENWRIGHT... ;)

I'm not sure financial fair play will help either; it will probably play in to the hands of the big turnover clubs.
Paul Ferry
198 Posted 10/09/2012 at 14:45:55
Ged (#791), there is absolutely nothing in your Fella quotes that in any shape or form contradicts the original report/post. So, absolutely nothing to feel 'a bit silly about this morning'. The report was talking about next season, not this (with a whisper that the big Belgo might
Paul Ferry
199 Posted 10/09/2012 at 14:58:49
No-one has used the word 'useless', Sam Hoare, get it right next time.

And again, there is zilch in what you quote from Fella to contradict anything in the original report, absolutely zilch
Sam Hoare
200 Posted 10/09/2012 at 15:20:42
Paul Ferry...ermmm.

So you're argument hangs on the fact that people might not have used the actual word 'useless'! Right. They just said that he was over-rated, inconsistent and that he had taken our team backwards? That's a watertight argument that one Paul! Right out of the Peter Barry handbook.

As for the contradiction let me show you carefully.

First report say: 'I have seen everything. In January or at the end of the season I will turn to another club or championship.'

Second report says: I was very surprised to read in some newspapers that I will leave Everton very soon and perhaps next January. Let me remind you that I am very happy in Liverpool and our start of the championship was good.

The second report (from the actual player) quite clearly calls the accuracy/source of the first report into question.

Of course it may be that MF is telling porkies, time will tell. But rather than take second hand foreign tabloid gossip as gospel I would rather place some trust in our players until proven wrong. You're more than welcome to you indignation of course.

Mike Powell
201 Posted 10/09/2012 at 15:22:11
If he gives it his all this season and helps us win a trophy then leaves at the end off the season then good luck to him. I cannot believe some of the comments on here slagging him off — he is our best player by a mile. I for one will be gutted when he leaves but he was always going to go to someone like Madrid or Bayern sooner or later.

Let's just enjoy him while he is still here and stop slagging him off but I know that won't happen.
Paul Ferry
202 Posted 10/09/2012 at 16:30:55
Sam, MF has the opportunity to come out in black and white and categorically deny this stuff. He has not. Instead he has done the par-for-the-course sidestepping that we see over and over again: er... the report is dodgy, er... I am very happy at Everton, er... I am not saying anything beyond that.

Now, I know that pedantry hovers here, but the big Belgo would need to say that this is total crap from first to last and he has not because he has not spoken about the time at the end of this season, the very time when the report suggests that his head will be turned elsewhere.

I don't begrudge the guy his ambition. He is nowhere near as good as he and pop and some on here seem to think he is. He, like many others in his profession, have done mind-games before.

If he is decked out in blue and white this time next year with our badge on it then I will be seen to be wrong. Right now, I suspect, MF is maneuvering, putting the feelers out, searching, and at one and the same time, trying to put the best face on for us lot. Not the first to do this, I know where it will all end up and so, I think, do you.

And, by the way, if it is all crap, then why doesn't the big fella sue the bastard.

James Flynn
203 Posted 10/09/2012 at 15:39:14
James (865) - There are a variety of salary caps in place in the US' top sports leagues. Teams can still pay outrageous wages. Salary caps don't really prevent that.

However, there are a variety of financial and drafting penalties connected to going over the agreed cap that can (and do) affect teams' ability to field a balanced, competitive side.

What it also doesn't prevent is reckless, who-gives-a-shit owners from throwing their money around on players not worth it. That never goes away.

It'll be good to see a cap system come into play over there, but it'll still boil down to good ownership.

Mick Davies
204 Posted 10/09/2012 at 16:50:26
Matthew, you are obviously correct and loyalty is a thing of the past. It all started when Babe Ruth visited Arsenal just after the war and after seeing the size of the crowd, asked one of the players how much he earned. When he was told, he was staggered and said, "if this many people turned out to see me, I'd want a lot more than that" This led to the American style greed culture spearheaded by Jimmy Hill and now just a fact of post Thatcher British life. Oh for the days when Lawton got the tram to the ground
James Morgan
205 Posted 10/09/2012 at 17:03:39
James, so you don't think it could work here and abroad if FIFA sanctioned a salary cap per player?
Does anybody know if Croatia vs Belgium is on tv tomorrow?
Seamus Murphy
206 Posted 10/09/2012 at 16:36:01
Sam - his 'denial' only contradicts the January bit. It only says he's happy and will play until the end of the season. He doesn't deny the report, far from it in fact. He just says he was surprised to read in a paper quotes being attributed to him, not that he didnt make them. Deliberately vague in my opinion. It would be very easy for hom to say he didnt say any such thing if that were the case, bit the reality is he was spouting his mouth off. He is a very foolish boy and I for one hope Moyes drops him against Newcastle as a result of it.

Can you not see that?

Brian Waring
207 Posted 10/09/2012 at 17:00:17
Tom (#837) "He has given us five years" The problem is Tom, for over 4 of them years, he wasn't really that good.
Sam Hoare
208 Posted 10/09/2012 at 17:11:10
Seamus, you say can you not see that as though you had stated fact. You haven't. As you pointed out earlier you have given an opinion.

My opinion is that he may have said something off the record about his future but he has been deliberately and provocatively misquoted which is why he says he was suprised to see it. If he had said that deliberately to an official source then why would he be surprised?!

I think you're right in that he may have been a bit foolish ans said something a little vague to someone who he shouldn't have but the whole thing has been overblown.

He has come out publicly to say that he is happy at Everton and so I don't see any reason to drop one of our most crucial players.

Steve Brown
209 Posted 10/09/2012 at 17:01:31
It seems that the average footballer hasn't cottoned onto the concept of a global media yet – even when they are speaking Flemish.

Perhaps he was trying to play the big "I am" for his local journos but more likely he is just your typical thick, mercenary player whose only loyalty is to himself (and his dad of course).

Brian Waring
210 Posted 10/09/2012 at 17:18:53
Why is it, a footballer, no matter who they play for gives an interview to a journo and something comes out in that interview that causes a stir, their defence is always 'I was misquoted'?

Tony J Williams
211 Posted 10/09/2012 at 17:26:38
It's the only defence the brain dead fuckers can think of Brian.
Dean Adams
212 Posted 10/09/2012 at 17:43:17
Having heard MF giving after match interviews on several occasions I am not suprised he is not too sure about the quotes being attributed to him. He is not exactly fluent and does seem to struggle with the slightest deviation from the usual questions.

Why so many people feel the need to vilify him is beyond my comprehension. We have some strange ideas on how to show our loyalty!!!

Paul David
213 Posted 10/09/2012 at 17:52:10
Sam

Fellaini is doing his best to cover his tracks seeing as he has no choice but to stay here till the new year. It would have been easy to say he didn't make those comments but he didn't.

Dean

I'm not sure but if he was giving an interview to a Belgium journalist I think its safe to assume Fellaini was speaking in his native tongue.

Mark Press
214 Posted 10/09/2012 at 18:05:29
Talking of loyalty, I have to say I feel relieved when I see Hibbo's name on the squadsheet every game. At least we know he'll be there when we want him. I hope Baines turns out like him. And Jagielka.

I can't understand it when players say they want to go out and win trophies. If I was a footballer, I'd want to be known as a classy guy who was a smashing player and nothing else. Trophies and hell. Nobody counts.
Jamie Barlow
215 Posted 10/09/2012 at 18:28:16
How is it that we constantly refuse to believe anything written in any of the papers or by any journalist until it's something like this? Then it's the gospel truth.
Paul David
216 Posted 10/09/2012 at 18:35:40
If its not true why didn't Fellaini just come out and say so? Instead he decided to just say he was happy in Liverpool, nothing else.
Shane Corcoran
217 Posted 10/09/2012 at 18:53:08
Holy fuck. If only Fellaini could read the minds of every insecure Toffeewebber he'd surely have taken the day off to compose the perfect response so we could all sleep soundly.
Paul David
218 Posted 10/09/2012 at 18:56:48
A bit over the top isn't Shane? If he didn't say he wanted to go then a simple "it's not true" would have done. People are just pointing out that even though he felt the need to comment on what has been reported he still hasn't denied saying it.
Jamie Barlow
219 Posted 10/09/2012 at 19:37:22
He said he's happy in Liverpool but this is his last season at Everton.

Sounds like he's going to the dark side to me.
Mwaaahahahahaha!!

In all seriousness, I stopped worshipping Everton players a long time ago. It doesn't bother me anymore when I hear shit like this. I expect it.

Pretty funny thread when you compare some of the things being said about Fellaini after the Man Utd game to some of the things being said above. (by the same people too).

Sam Hoare
220 Posted 10/09/2012 at 20:05:30
Paul Ferry, vitriol and personal comments behind us I do see your point. I would not want to bet on MF being with us next season.

However, there is clearly something fishy going on as he is surely not so stupid as to come out saying he wants to leave just after the transfer window slams shut.

Wether he was misquoted, speaking off the record, or had nailed a few Belgian beers is speculation but his qualifying comments at least throw some doubt on the matter. As much as he could have denied he might as well have admitted them. He seems to have fallen in between and I guess reaction is a personal choice.

For me he is our best player and while he is still here and claims to be happy I would rather back him and hope he can lead us to some sort of success, even if I accept that our top players are always likely to be considering their options while we remain out of Europe.

Dean Adams
221 Posted 10/09/2012 at 21:50:07
Paul David 902 - good point! However it amazes me how quick some fans are to jump on the players. I know it happens almost every week after a game but, Fella was a hero a week ago, not a bad word to be heard, then some shite journo twists a few sentences and bingo he is now Jack the Ripper!!
Michael Kenrick
222 Posted 10/09/2012 at 22:33:52
Dean, I'm not sure how helpful it is to pretend this whole maelstrom has been made up by some lazy Belgo journo. The Press Association story carries this paragraph:
Fellaini sought to diffuse the comments, which it is understood he does not deny saying during a press conference after training with his national side in Anderlecht on Saturday.
Not gospel... but pretty telling, don't you think? Or are the Press Association making it up as well?
Paul Ferry
223 Posted 11/09/2012 at 04:36:39
Fair enough Sam, mate; well stated, fairly stated... kudos.
Eric Myles
224 Posted 12/09/2012 at 02:37:25
Dean #901, he gave the interview to a Belgian journalist in his native language so I doubt it's a case of not being fluent enough to understand / answer the question.

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