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More frustration for Moyes over refereeing decisions


David Moyes was once again left rueing what he feels were poor refereeing decisions in the draw with Arsenal, in particular the incident involving Steven Pienaar and Mike Arteta where the Spaniard appeared to pull the South African down in the penalty area.

Arteta had been penalised in the first half for an identical challenge on Marouane Fellaini in midfield and Moyes pointed that inconsistent or suspect refereeing can cost teams in a league as tight as the Premier League. "It was a really difficult night for us with the officials," he told Sky Sports. "We got very few decisions tonight.

"If you are going to win games, now and then you need a bit going for you. A lot of results hinge on what referees do and the decisions they make.

"If we were going to win it was going to be without any decisions from the officials going in Everton's favour that's for sure."

Moyes was pleased, though, with the way his side fought back after conceding an early goal and reserved special praise for Marouane Fellaini who grabbed a superb equaliser.

"I thought he was fabulous tonight," Moyes said. "But our whole team played well, as we had to do against Arsenal. Overall I was really pleased with how the players played.

"I thought we deserved it when we scored, we were playing well, and it was a really good goal by Marouane."

Quotes or other material sourced from Sky Sports

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Nick Entwistle
797 Posted 29/11/2012 at 00:48:56
The ref once again was horrendous. I wasn't sure how to spell 'horrendous' in August, but now it's all Voderman.
Phil Sammon
798 Posted 29/11/2012 at 00:51:11
I know I'm biased... but we really have have some terrible decisions go against us in the last few games.
Eric Myles
799 Posted 29/11/2012 at 00:57:49
Except for bottling the penalty decision, I thought that the ref had a pretty good game. A lot of the fouls that he could have given he allowed play to carry on; it's our players' fault they didn't take the advantage.
Steve Pugh
813 Posted 29/11/2012 at 06:58:06
There used to be a site with the tables had the correct decisions been made by refs. But I can't seem to find it now. I'd love to see how far out it is this season.
Anto Byrne
817 Posted 29/11/2012 at 07:16:27
Had Pienaar pulled Arteta down in the box the outcome would have been pretty clear. The FA's favoured four get all the decisions or am I just paranoid?

Howard still a worry had he just stayed on his line as the defender was making it hard for Walcott. I watched it and he is sitting on his fucking arse inviting a chip. Awful.
Shane Corcoran
820 Posted 29/11/2012 at 07:36:47
I only saw the game on a buffering stream but I didn't notice him being too bad overall. Did Fellaini get booked? If he didn't he should have, constant fouling.

I'd be more worried about the amount of misplaced passes by Fellaini, Pienaar and Oviedo.
Mark Dunford
824 Posted 29/11/2012 at 08:10:55
The ref was dreadful. It was a clear penalty... and the elbow on Fellaini which winded him was shocking enough to merit a straight red. Wasn''t far off the sort of punch that ended Ricky Hatton's career last week.

The foul by Arteta was compounded by the award of a corner to us when the credible decision was a penalty but the alternative was a goalkick. There was also a horrendous offside which half the Everton defence appealed – you may recall the centre forward dived under a bad cross about 5 yards offside.

We could go on but even watching on the internet, you could tell the crowd were incensed. The standards this year have been very poor and the idiots who refereed against Newcastle and Norwich have effectively cost us four points.

I do agree on misplaced passes. We did seem to give the ball away cheaply.

Matt Traynor
826 Posted 29/11/2012 at 09:10:18
Steve #813, it was called The Right Result, and was a non-scientific review of games. It did debunk the myth that these things even themselves out. At the end of one season we were about 7 points down, and the RS 12 points better off than they should've been.

Was run by a group of Man Utd fans, think it stopped in 2008-09.

Colin Potter
828 Posted 29/11/2012 at 09:10:33
I thought the ref had a decent game. And I thought Pienaar went down too easily for the penalty claim — I certainly wouldn't have given it. We all seem to be blaming the referee for dropping points, when it's the dozy pricks on the pitch missing numerous chances.
Al Reddish
829 Posted 29/11/2012 at 09:20:23
Anto, it wasnt a chip, it ws a shot that deflected off Hibbert and I don't think Howard could have done much with it.
Mike Powell
831 Posted 29/11/2012 at 09:18:29
The ref was piss-poor again... a clear pen. I have said it many times now, the FA do not want us in the top four — what other reason is there for all the terrible decisions that go against us???

Shane, what game were you watching? Fellaini was outstanding, he was unplayable at times... Him, along with Baines and Jags, ran the show.
Barry Rathbone
833 Posted 29/11/2012 at 09:31:22
Another example of Moyes perusing the forums?

Him not complaining enough about refs has been the latest "Jeremy Kyle" analysis for weeks now.

Eric Myles
853 Posted 29/11/2012 at 12:36:47
Colin #828 a foul is a foul whether the player goes down or not and the ref had already booked an Arsenal player and awarded fouls against Fellaini and Arteta for exactly the same thing. So he is clear it is a foul and as such should it have been a penalty but he bottled it and had to award us something so it turned out to be a corner.
Eric Myles
855 Posted 29/11/2012 at 12:43:08
Steve, Matt before The Right Result it was called 'You need specs ref'

Google 'Untold Arsenal' and you'll find they do it, not just for their games but for most EPL matches.

Of course it might not have been a penalty on their site for this game!!

Eric Myles
861 Posted 29/11/2012 at 12:46:12
Eric Myles
863 Posted 29/11/2012 at 13:15:00
Nick Entwistle
871 Posted 29/11/2012 at 14:12:07
Arsenal fans and MotD are saying Pienaar committed a two-footed challenge on Arteta before the goal. Trust a hurting Hansen to highlight this with the wrong angle, the main TV camera clearly shows it was nothing of the sort.
John Dubay
896 Posted 29/11/2012 at 17:20:01
Colin (#828): Are we expected then to get results in spite of officials game after game? Other teams have more or less been seen to have been officiated fairly. We have not. Even out over the season? Bollocks. It's bad enough some teams consistently have decisions go in their favour. We can't even expect a modicum of fairness.
Colin Potter
912 Posted 29/11/2012 at 18:31:35
I'm sorry, Eric and John, but I've just seen it again on TV, and I'm still not convinced it was a penalty. It could have been given and of course you accept the decision. But with all the diving going on especially from those cheating bastards from over the park, decent referees are going to be, maybe, overly cautious in giving them.

John, I take your point, some of the officials have been abysmal, but I thought yon lad did okay last night.
John Dubay
914 Posted 29/11/2012 at 19:35:59
Colin, I wasn't referring specifically to last night, neither would I want to see lots of wrong calls go in our favour. All I want to see is teams getting what they deserve and no more, no less. If bad calls are given against you like they have to us you are at a disadvantage before you start and have to do more to win games than other teams. This is unfair.
Eric Myles
967 Posted 30/11/2012 at 00:48:02
Again Colin, the referee has previously given 3 free kicks, including 1 yellow card, for exactly the same thing. So it is obviously a foul in his eyes, and a foul in the box is a penalty but he bottled it and gave a consolation corner even though Arteta obviously had not touched the ball.

Other than that I agree he had a good game.

Ian Bennett
041 Posted 30/11/2012 at 18:40:39
I thought pienaar was a bit lucky for our goal, arteta did foul by pulling him back and getting nothing on the ball. Gerrard was not fouled at spurs, I think dembele got enough of the ball.

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