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Dick Fearon
1 Posted 04/05/2014 at 01:40:47
Ken, you just about covered my thoughts and echo your dislike of throwing a game just to spite our NFH.

From afar, I wholeheartedly add my congratulations to Roberto and his/our players.

I also Include in my applause our much maligned yet much improved backroom staff.

Kieran Kinsella
3 Posted 04/05/2014 at 02:57:20
I don't get these sad people who delight in seeing others fail. What happened to Nil Satis Nisi Optimum? Or do we need to change the motto to "who cares if we lose just as long as Liverpool do too"? Bunch of losers.

Despite that, I thought we did fairly well although the defense was all at sea with the City goals.

I am a bit nervous about the summer transfers. I hope we hold onto Barkley, Stones and McCarthy. I hope we bring in some new blood to improve the quality and quantity but I am on the fence about keeping the loaners. However, I am optimistic based on Bob's first season in charge.

Eric Holland
4 Posted 04/05/2014 at 03:08:11
(I don't get these sad people who delight in seeing others fail.)

Yes Kieran and you never will.

Mike Gaynes
6 Posted 04/05/2014 at 04:37:46
Interesting that to those in attendance, the atmosphere at Goodison seemed flat... the NBC broadcasters took note of the "oddness" but made it sound tremendously exciting, particularly Arlo White after Barkley's goal:

"I defy any Everton fans, regardless of your desire to deny Liverpool a title, to not stand up and cheer at the top of your lungs at that moment of absolute magic from Ross Barkley."

Summarized it pretty well, I think!

Andy McNabb
7 Posted 04/05/2014 at 06:15:18
Thanks Ken - I missed your report on the Southampton game - although the least said was probably best.

I awoke at 5am and looked at my phone. Any lingering doubts over my possible desire to see Everton lose this one were dispelled in a second. I was really disappointed to see we hadn't added to our points tally, although I had joked last week with some Man City friends over here that I would accept an "entertaining 2-3 defeat."
Be careful what you wish for, Andy
Andy McNabb
8 Posted 04/05/2014 at 06:23:31
Now let's get Hibbo some game time against Hull.
Mark Andersson
9 Posted 04/05/2014 at 06:11:30
All in all it was a good game, Roberto had a experiment and will have learnt a few things. The big guy who has the worst first touch I've seen in many a year scored a good goal and that was IT. He will be off to pastures new and I wont miss the frustration he causes me.

Barkley was on fire for most of the game and his goal was a contender for goal of the season.

All in all a good result for those fans who wanted to be beaten. For the fans who with more dignity the performance was not too shabby and we certainly gave the shitty fans some nail biting moments.

I hope that next season Roberto and the boys can build on this season and hopefully the future looks good.

Craig Fletcher
10 Posted 04/05/2014 at 07:04:07
Would love to see young Ledson get a run-out against Hull; possibly even the likes of Garbutt or Browning. I have a feeling they, along with the likes of McAleny, will be seen more and more on the field next season, especially in the Europa League. If they're good enough, they're old enough.
Craig Fletcher
11 Posted 04/05/2014 at 07:08:31
By the way Ken - thanks for your fantastic reports throughout the season. When we don't see a report from you after a match, something always seems to be missing. Keep up the brilliant work.
Dave Long
12 Posted 04/05/2014 at 07:21:43
Yeah thanks Ken, cant get to the game cos Im in Japan. I always read your report for the "full story",
Peter Healing
13 Posted 04/05/2014 at 07:39:25
Hi Ken Do you know were I can get a copy of Your Everton magazine?I live in New Zealand.Cheers
Robert Workman
14 Posted 04/05/2014 at 08:18:02
I feel that, as reported above, the main difference between the teams was the goalkeepers.
Hart made a fantastic save from Naismith that prevented it from going to 2-2 just seconds before City scored what proved to be the winning goal. He also made a good block late on from Deulofeu.
Whereas Howard really made little effort to prevent the first two goals. I accept that there was some poor defending prior to these efforts but, when that happens, you hope that your goalie can make a save - in this instance one, if not two.
Peter Mills
15 Posted 04/05/2014 at 08:28:32
Mike#6, at the match I did indeed leap up and cheer at the top of my lungs at Ross's goal. Then, within about 3 seconds, it hit me that Liverpudlians around the world would be doing the same thing which was just, well, alien to me. An odd match indeed.
Ken Buckley
16 Posted 04/05/2014 at 08:43:29
Peter@13.
E.mail the club ASAP they may have some left.
Trevor Lynes
17 Posted 04/05/2014 at 09:19:31
Cheers for the usual top class report and I heartily agree with your sentiments. I was disgusted to see so many so-called fans who wanted us to lose to spite Liverpool.In my ideal world I want our great City to always beat the Mancs and Cockneys.Everton at the top and Liverpool 2nd would do for me every time.I am sick of this biased media reporting and am proud of my club.In boxing there is a pound for pound champion which identifies the best at all weights.We are the pound for pound champions in money spent.Strange quiet atmosphere at the ground though.
Bill Griffiths
18 Posted 04/05/2014 at 09:29:59
Thanks Ken for bringing some sanity to the site.
Tony Dove
19 Posted 04/05/2014 at 10:15:32
Thanks for your great reports all season. They are an oasis of good sense humour. To think how good Barkley could become is mind blowing and Stones isn't that far behind. Stones may well be too talented for just a central defender's role.
Vinny Garstrokes
20 Posted 04/05/2014 at 10:10:57
Thanks Ken - I couldn't get to the game so appreciate your report. I also wanted us to win and refer to a quote by I think Abraham Lincoln which goes something like "You cannot help people by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves"
Dave Williams
21 Posted 04/05/2014 at 10:46:42
Superb report which sums up the "should we want to win or lose" aspect perfectly. I’m with you all the way, Ken!

That for me was far and away Barkley’s best ever performance. His passing, which I have previously regarded as poor, was excellent throughout and he was twisting away from players with ease. McCarthy worked non-stop as ever and I thought Leon had a good first half.

The problems for me were the back three and Lukaku. Jags looked well off the pace and Alcaraz, who I have quite liked in the past, looked like a fish out of water with poor mobility and surprisingly poor distribution. Stones had a decent game and our defence now needs a dominant centre-back to play alongside him. Howard was suspect on two of the goals committing the cardinal sin for a keeper of leaving his near post exposed.

As for Lukaku, he knows how to score goals but his approach play and first touch are atrocious and I hope we do not go near him for a permanent deal. I know he is only 20 and for a player of that age he is scoring very well but our gameplan is not to hit the front man and see if he can go it alone and score. We need one who can hold the ball and bring others into play and we break down so often when it hits him and bounces off to the opposition. There must be better alternatives out there... Bony looked very good to me at Goodison Park.

One final word: how has Naismith come on this season!!!! He looks an integral part of the team, links well with the midfield, scores goals, chases down defenders all match and to me has rammed the words of all his critics back down their throats. This lad never gives less than full commitment and if we get the right striker in for next season Nais will score more goals because I’m afraid Lukaku doesn’t lay many on for others.

Great season with good prospects ahead.

What has happened to George Green, anyone – I haven’t seen him mentioned re Under-18s or Under-21s lately?

David Hallwood
22 Posted 04/05/2014 at 11:49:03
Great report as ever Ken.

First things first, I never have and never will want Everton to lose a game. I am an Evertonian, it's my birthright, if a team gains advantage because we win; so be it.

I had what became a heated exchange with a fellow blue last week who pointed out that he was in the pub with a bunch of RS and they cheered when the og went in at Southampton. That's different to wanting your team to lose, when Ba scored after DJ-beater's slip, if a ref had been present I would've been booked for OTT celebrations — either support your team through thick and thin, or join the glory hunters and support Shitteh, or Manure or the shite or whoever's doing well.

A few points about the game; IMHO 3 at the back only works with a sweeper or spare man, because too often you see an attacker not being picked up (like Dzeko for both goals).

The tackle inside the box on Barkley was a penalty all day long, I've watched it about a dozen times and Kompany takes the man with minimal contact on the ball, and Del boy showed his best and worst sides with that superb dribble in the box, FFS lad look and you would've seen Nessy & Lukaku unmarked in the 6 yard area.

All-in-all, a great season with some memorable moments, but with 3 defeats in the last 4 games a disappointing end to the season.

Steavey Buckley
23 Posted 04/05/2014 at 12:21:47
I did not mind being beaten by Man City, fair and square, but both Dzeko and Aquero both cheated to get the result they wanted. Firstly, Aquero, according to Martinez, pretended to be going off the field due to an injury, then wondered back on to score City's first goal.

Then when Everton were in the ascendancy chasing an equaliser, with Barkley (best player in the premier league yesterday) on a charge towards the Man City goal, Dzeko goes down and would not get up until the stretcher bearers arrived on the field when Dzeko was beginning to get up.

This injury fein by Dzeko took nearly 5 minutes, which took the attacking impetuous and sting out of Everton, which did have a major effect on the closing moments of the game.

This is not the first time the top 4 clubs, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal have cheated to gain advantages over Everton this season and in the past. And this cheating is not stopped out, will encourage other teams to follow likewise.

Such as, when your team is 1 up with 15miniutes to go and the opposition are pressuring the goal to get an equaliser or winner, suddenly out of blue due to a harmless push, player goes down and does a Dzeko. Or pretending to go off with an injury than run back on the field and score a goal like Aquero.

If Man City do win the premier league this season, cheating would have played some part in them winning it.

Mike Childs
24 Posted 04/05/2014 at 14:08:10
Dzeko's fall down was disgusting to say the least. Watching at home they didn't show one replay of the incident. Makes you wonder.

If Probert had any love for us which, he obviously doesn't, we would have gotten the penalty in the box, Dzeko would have gotten a red, and we certainly would have gotten more than 6 minutes added time.

Mike Gaynes
25 Posted 04/05/2014 at 15:36:30
Peter #15, yes... the NBC commentator's very next comment after the one I quoted was that the cheering just across Stanley Park would be just as loud.
Brent Stephens
26 Posted 04/05/2014 at 16:22:58
Mike #24, if you mean the "penalty" for the "foul" on Ross - it was a perfect challenge. Won the ball fair and square.
Raymond Fox
27 Posted 04/05/2014 at 16:06:59
I get pissed off with all this 'bad defending' malarky! No-one ever gives the attacker any credit for finding space, we were playing against some of the best offensive players in the world yesterday. Why are these players classed as great players, why because they can create space or beat the defender by their natural ability.

If we are blaming our defence, all I see is Alcaraz was shite etc, watch the game again and then tell me that Jags and flavour of the month Stones were not equally palpable for City's goals... who was marking Dzeko for instance, who was the midfielder that was marking Toure?

If we are going to slate a player, let's get the facts right!

Shaun Laycock
28 Posted 04/05/2014 at 16:51:06
Raymond, the first goal is where Alcaraz was pulled out of position. Fair enough. Jags went to go and block but didn't. That decision could have resulted in a block on the ball. Dzeko's 'movement' for the second goal was a meander into the box for an unmarked header – with three of our centre backs in attendance – after Jags had tried to play offside!!!

Goal three: Stones got pulled out of position and allowed a cross into the box. Alcaraz pushes Dzeko into the space between the centre backs to mark at the back post. McCarthy is too slow to recover and Jags is in no man's land.

A catalogue of errors from all centre backs. All were culpable in some shape or form (even Bobby admitted there were soft goals to concede). Three very preventable goals. All centre-backs expecting the other to mark as there are three of them. Not great movement – just poor defending! No more three at the back please!!!

Malcolm Joyner
29 Posted 04/05/2014 at 17:09:20
I don't want to sound like Phil Walling but can't say I've been overly impressed with any of the Wigan players Bobby has brought in other than McCarthy. I just hope he will look further afield in the summer window.

Also his 'experimental' line-ups look dodgy and I think he was being a little 'too clever' yesterday.

I know it's a sin to criticise him for anything but there has never been a manager anywhere who doesn't drop the occasional bloomer which he can expect to get stick for!

Raymond Fox
30 Posted 04/05/2014 at 17:18:45
Shaun, Alcaraz was pulled out of position because someone has to attempt to stop Toure coming straight though and scoring.

Every goal that's scored with the exception of a goal like Barkleys, could be argued was bad defending, even his you could say that the defender wasn't close enough!

My main point was if we are going to point the finger lets put the blame where its due, it wasn't just Alcaraz that was to blame.

Brent Stephens
31 Posted 04/05/2014 at 17:54:36
First goal involved Osman losing his man, so Alcaraz had to come to him - not his fault.
Shaun Laycock
32 Posted 04/05/2014 at 18:05:00
Raymond, it was extremely frustrating that City didn't have to show 'world class' movement to get their three goals. It was far too easy. As a unit, the back three were all over the place. Experiment that went wrong...fair play, at least we can learn from it. Onwards and upwards!!!
Raymond Fox
33 Posted 04/05/2014 at 18:31:10
Roberto shut City down in the Cup Final when at Wigan, I presume he was trying to do the same again Shaun.

I have to agree that it didn't work out this time for various reasons, + its very difficult to contain a side like City for 90mins though.

I thought overall we could be proud of our performance, and I have to admit that I'm not too sorry about the result at the end.

Shaun Laycock
34 Posted 04/05/2014 at 18:47:39
Me neither but that is a conversation for another thread!!!
Trevor Thompson
35 Posted 04/05/2014 at 18:49:15
Malcom#29. I think Roberto knew we needed some extra players and, other than McCarthy, bought in players that he knew. It saves extensive scouting and spending money (we don't really have) on players he is unsure of. This summer will be the true test of Martinez's signings.
Kieran Fitzgerald
36 Posted 04/05/2014 at 18:55:00
McCarthy is the only Wigan player who's actually gotten a decent run in the team. Kone got a couple of games and Alcaraz has gotten two.

A midfielder or striker will be given a couple of games to get up to speed with the pace when they haven't played in a while. A centre half isn't given that luxury. I wouldn't write Alcaraz off just yet.

I will judge Kone after he has been given a proper run of games in the team.

Trevor, I would agree completely about Martinez and the upcoming summer transfer window. He knew last summer he wasn't getting a lot of ,money. Only for the Felliani, he may not have gotten anything on Deadline day.

Shaun/Raymond, they were three very soft goals to concede yesterday and not like us at all this season. A game like yesterday really shows you the value of a settled centre half pairing. The thing is though, I would view the Hull game as a chance to try something different again next week. Why not start planning for next season. The more preparation the better the season we can have.

Graham Mockford
37 Posted 04/05/2014 at 18:57:50
I always find it strange that there is always someone at fault for a goal. City have scored 120+ goals this season because they have quality attacking players.

The second goal is a classic example, easy enough to blame Baines for not closing the cross down, but in fact it was just a sublime bit of skill by Milner to step over and take the ball away in one movement followed by a world class header from Dzeko. That's what billions of pounds gets you.

Shaun #32 says they didn't have to ' show world class movement' but that is in fact what all three goals were. The first was Toure quickly moving the ball to Aguero who is a world class finisher, you might want to blame Howard but it was just a great finish. The third was a bit of Silva magic who put it on a plate for Dzeko.

City actually did pretty little but just showed the importance of quality players. Money always talks in the long run.

Malcolm Joyner
38 Posted 04/05/2014 at 19:37:43
I guess a team as good as City don't have to be at their best to get a result whilst the likes of Everton have to play out of their skins.

Not always possible. That's why we are to finish fifth. But, at least, Bobby's hightened the barrier a little !

Ian Tunstead
39 Posted 04/05/2014 at 19:51:58
I thought it was a very negative and defensive set up yesterday, playing 5 defenders. Baines and Coleman seemed hamstrung while the 3 CBs didn't seem to know who was picking up who.

Osman was next to useless as usual but the one major positive was Ross's performance, he didn't put a foot wrong and it seemed like everything thing he did was causing them problems. I just wish he had been more greedy because sometimes when a player is in the zone like that they can be unplayable.

It's been a decent season, let's hope we can build on it and bring the right players in during the Summer. Hopefully a couple more youth players can make the step up as well.

Raymond Fox
40 Posted 04/05/2014 at 19:42:14
Graham, I agree entirely with what you say in the post, top class players that can produce bits of magic that can pull games out of the fire. It's the very reason their expensive.

As far as next seasons concerned Kieran, I don't think our esteemed manager will fail us, the problem is, will he have the money to go out and buy at Harrods, very probably not going off the boards past record, I fancy he will have to do with looking around Quicksave for a bargain.

If he had silly money to spend I would really fancy us for a CL place, as it is he has to be twice as good as your Rodgers, Mourinhos, Wengers, Pellegrinis and Utds manager to get us into the CL.

Keith Glazzard
41 Posted 04/05/2014 at 20:24:18
Dzeko should have been given his second yellow when he ran straight back on.

If 'world class' includes 'cheating bastard', a la Suarez, I'd rather do without. Perhaps Maradona was better than Pele. Discuss.

Others like Revie's Leeds and our dearly beloved neighbours don't give a toss.

We do. Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.

Paul Holden
42 Posted 04/05/2014 at 21:48:51
Despite the Palace, Southampton and Shite (at Anfield) games, I've enjoyed this season.
Phil Grayston
43 Posted 04/05/2014 at 22:15:43
Great reporting again, Ken. Just one thing I'd pick up on though is where you say that our 5th place finish gets us straight into the group stages of the EL. According to Wikipedia,
"If Arsenal win the cup, Hull City will enter the third qualifying round, the sixth-placed team of the league will enter the play-off round, and the fifth-placed team of the league will enter the group stage."

So it looks like we'll have to support the Arse at Wembley, and another heart versus the head dilemma will be served up for us. All these moral choices are doing my head in.

Si Cooper
44 Posted 05/05/2014 at 02:37:24
"So it looks like we'll have to support the Arse at Wembley, and another heart versus the head dilemma will be served up for us."

I view the upcoming FA Cup final as one I can be completely neutral in and just hope that the best side on the day wins; if that is Arsenal and that means we avoid an early competitive start to the season then that is fine by me.

Talking about dilemmas, the way things are shaping up in La Liga it could be that if Barca defeat Atletico in the last game of the season it hands the title to Real.


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