I am writing this message as an avid Everton supporter of 50 years with both mum and dad Evertonians, wife, son, daughter... and I am currently working on a grandnephew who I have just purchased a top for.

My son and I have been season ticket holders in the Family Enclosure and now the Paddock for 12 years. My father took me to my first game in 1966 and since that day, Labby was my god, I have not missed a final since the Villa League Cup games in the seventies.

Although I live close to 200 miles away from Goodison Park, I always look forward to our pilgrimages to all home games. Unfortunately, we struggle to get to away games as we just can’t seem to meet the criteria for tickets very often.

This club and its supporters never fail to surprise me over the years, I have got to meet some wonderful people. I remember the Orient FA cup game (when Gazza was playing) and whilst staying in Sefton Park, my son Sean and I ventured down that cosmopolitan road known as Lark Lane...

It was whilst in a Greek restaurant that a couple noticed us and started chatting and were amazed at my young son’s knowledge of Everton, even amazing me by talking about players like Tommy Eglington.

After talking for a while, they told us that they lived near Gazza and often saw him out and about; they asked for our details and said that they would get some signatures etc. I asked them if they wanted a drink which they declined and within the week, a parcel arrived with a signed Everton football, scarf, hat & signed photo of Gazza but no details for me to thank them (this I have come to realise is part of an inherent trait of Scouse people).

A few years later, Sean was due an operation on his hamstrings as he has CP and the club prior to his op made him mascot for the game against Leeds (the game Dave Watson scored a hat trick). The way Everton treated Sean & all the family, grandparents as well, made it not only the best day of his life but mine also.

As a double whammy, Sean got to take three penalties against Big Nev, scoring two, and to see him kiss his badge and do a little wiggle brought tears to my eyes.

You might think that things could not get better than that... but, a few years later, I received a call from the club when Everton were playing Luton at Kenilworth Road in what was the Carling Cup, asking as we lived about 20 minutes from Luton, would Sean like to be mascot? My reply was, "If Sean doesn’t, I will!!" Not many people get to be Mascot one time let alone twice!

Sean had been badgering me to get tickets for the Stevenage FA Cup game on Saturday... we new that we did not meet the criteria and I tried via Everton Disabled Supporters Association (EDSA) but to no avail.

As I have a Hertfordshire accent and postcode, I was able to acquire two seats in the main stand (obviously in the Stevenage end). The day of the game arrived and my wife and daughter took Sean and I to the game. We parked up momentarily in the car park as the stewards allowed us in order to get Sean’s wheel chair out. At that moment, the heavens opened and a big Merc parked next to us. My wife pointed out to me that it was Bill Kenwright.

My wife, rather excited, started to talk to Bill, car window to car window, whilst I was shrinking in to my seat with embarrassment. She mentioned that we were season ticket holders and travelled a fair distance to every home game, Bill asked us where we were sitting and Sean told him in the Stevenage end.

Bill asked my wife to come with him and they then came back and told us that we would be sitting with him and the other directors of Everton in the Directors Box. We were then taken to the boardroom and treated like royalty.

After Bill had spoken to the Stevenage Chairman (I presume in his office), he came into the boardroom and made a bee-line straight for us and spent about 20 minutes talking all things Everton. As we were making our way out to our seat, I warned my son (those who have sat near us in the Family Enclosure and now the Paddock know what he is like) to tame it down a bit and be mindful of where we were.

During the game, Sean was singing along with the Everton fans in the away end and Bill kept looking back giving him the thumbs up and shouting "Sing up, Sean!" My point for this long winded post is, as Bill left 5 minutes before the end, I did not get a chance to thank him.

We as Everton fans should be proud that we have a decent and honourable man in our Chairman Bill Kenwright. He may not be an Abramovich, Glazer, Tan, Al Fayed et al... but he is one of us. None of the aforementioned would have made a fan’s day like Bill did Everton is a Special Club and Bill is our special one.

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Peter Mills
1 Posted 27/01/2014 at 16:39:57
A great article Martin.
Mike Hughes
2 Posted 27/01/2014 at 16:55:05
A really nice article - and I agree with your sentiments entirely.
Ajay Gopal
3 Posted 27/01/2014 at 16:59:14
Fantastic article, Martin, brought a tear to my eye (and no, I am not Bill Kenwright!).
Dominic Tonge
4 Posted 27/01/2014 at 17:00:16
Nice to hear things like this. Good article, and good on BK. Classy touch.
Raymond Fox
5 Posted 27/01/2014 at 16:53:38
My god Martin, you and your family are what I would call proper supporters, put me to shame I don't mind admitting.

Nice to hear of Bill K. kindness to you.

I think you should win an award, I don't know if the club actually award special supporters but it wouldn't be a bad idea.

Charlie Dixon
6 Posted 27/01/2014 at 17:12:24
Lovely stuff Martin.

Good luck on the grandnephew.

Brian Denton
7 Posted 27/01/2014 at 17:27:08
And there in a nutshell you have the Bill Kenwright dilemma for most Blues. If only the bugger was richer !
Stephen Brown
8 Posted 27/01/2014 at 17:38:28
Great article . Well done Bill !
Barry Rathbone
9 Posted 27/01/2014 at 17:34:18
God bless you and your wonderful family Martin fantastic story and well done Bill Kenwright.

Brian Denton you are spot on about the "Bill dilemma" he does stuff like this and you can't help but be proud he's our chairman but then he does "other stuff"- maddening.

Patrick Murphy
10 Posted 27/01/2014 at 17:45:05
Thanks for the post Martin - BK has his faults but this sort of behavour has always been in his DNA and he can be truly proud of himself - as you say the other 'owners' at other clubs wouldn't have even spoke to you never mind gone to the trouble that Bill did, as one of his most constant critics I understand his affection for the club and those who support it, as has been mentioned if only he had drilled for oil in the 1960s rather than treading the boards. Nice one Bill.
Paul Tran
11 Posted 27/01/2014 at 17:45:28
A lovely story - I've heard a few similar ones lately. He played a blinder getting Martinez and sorting out Utd last summer. His heart's in the right place, I just wish he could persuade the wealthy board members to take a punt on the team.
Adam Luszniak
12 Posted 27/01/2014 at 18:14:02
What a great article. Thanks for sharing it.
Peter Warren
13 Posted 27/01/2014 at 18:43:18
Fantastic read. It's good to read such positive stories about our club, supporters and chairman.
Tom R Owen
14 Posted 27/01/2014 at 18:44:06
Surprised he had the time if he is looking for investors 24/7
David Midgley
15 Posted 27/01/2014 at 19:03:56
#486. Ooooooh Tom. !!!
Bob Unwin
16 Posted 27/01/2014 at 19:03:34
Fantastic Martin, Thank you. What great fans and a great club we are.
Paul Johnson
17 Posted 27/01/2014 at 19:04:54
First off what a great article that makes you realise what a privilege it is to be an Evertonian.

It really makes me want to believe in Bill but I can't shake the Kings Dock out of my system. I always default to visiting the maritime museum to look at the proposals for the redevelopment. I know I look through blue tinted specs but Everton's was by far and away the best. I had my boy on my shoulders and I remember thinking that we would have seats on the river side of the stadium.

The article by the Spurs fan being envious of our club for not selling its soul makes me feel good, but then I think of the leeches, Green and Earl and they are worse than the oil rich magnates cause they are just stripping our assets.
Either way I digress. great read Martin makes me feel like there is some good left in this world, so though it pains me to say it well done Bill.

Harold Matthews
18 Posted 27/01/2014 at 19:18:47
What a wonderful story. Nice one BK.
Mike Gaynes
19 Posted 27/01/2014 at 19:22:21
What a marvelous article, Martin... a privilege to read. Thank you for sharing your family's experience with all of us.
Phil Walling
20 Posted 27/01/2014 at 20:10:22
Lovely story. The truth is he's been bad for Everton but he could have been a bloody sight worse.

That's the paradox that's BK !

Dan Brierley
23 Posted 27/01/2014 at 20:30:56
Great story, it really drives home what it means to be a blue. And to be fair, I have heard quite a few of these types of stories of the years where the chairman has gone out of his way to help fellow blues. Hardly seems to reflect the 'holding out for a big day' accusations aimed at him. I would also go as far as saying I bet he has been to more home and away games than those that knock him combined. He rarely seems to miss a game.
Jim Lloyd
24 Posted 27/01/2014 at 21:10:06
Well, I've criticised him plenty and will again for what I see as his reluctance to sell the club. Nevertheless, his actions at the Stevenage match are just great. He made a family of Evertonians happy and proud. Well done Bill Kenwright.
Tom R Owen
25 Posted 27/01/2014 at 21:17:00
Dan 563
He doesn't have to buy a ticket like the rest of us!
Dan Brierley
26 Posted 27/01/2014 at 21:25:24
Tom Owen, yes you are right. It would be much better if he had taken a salary for the the last 24 years of being involved with the club, but paid for his tickets eh?
Tim Keyes
27 Posted 27/01/2014 at 21:35:05
Tom, wind your neck in will you and, just for once, give him a little credit for an extremely nice gesture.
Patrick Murphy
28 Posted 27/01/2014 at 21:40:55
Dan - I think most of us would attend every match if we could and even more so if we could wine and dine with all the movers and shakers of the football world. I would hope that any Chairman / owner would do the same thing, because if they couldn't be bothered going to the game how on earth could they rally supporters to go when they needed them.

Also don't forget there are many supporters who have spent thousands upon thousands of pounds following the Blues for years, but if they turn up a penny short of the ticket price - that won't be taken into consideration.

Tim Keyes
29 Posted 27/01/2014 at 21:48:21
Patrick, you might think that all chairmen/owners go to every game; however, I can categorically tell you that most don't. Most cannot even be bothered to attend the home games let alone travel to places like Stevenage on a wet and windy evening in January.
Dave Williams
30 Posted 27/01/2014 at 21:49:22
I get pretty sick of negative comments about BK.He rescued us in dire times when Johnson was starting to strip our assets. He made it clear he didn't have loads of cash but, if you look at our balance sheet now and take into account the value of the players, we are a lot better off than when he took over.

If there was serious interest in buying us, we would hear about it in the press. Gaydamak who bought Pompey was interested and thank god Bill spotted a dodgy character! Lerner hasn't worked too well for Villa, Leeds spent money they hadn't got... and the list goes on. Yes, it would be great if Bill had more money but look at Grantchester with a 1 billion fortune and criticise him for not helping Sir John Moores's great club!

BK is doing a very good job with modest resources and I for one thank him for it!

Dan Brierley
31 Posted 27/01/2014 at 21:46:51
"I would hope that any Chairman / owner would do the same thing, because if they couldn't be bothered going to the game how on earth could they rally supporters to go when they needed them."

Since when does anybody go to the match because their chairman rallied them to go when needed? I can only speak for myself on this but I go to watch my team play football, regardless of the Chairman's views. But each to their own.

Patrick Murphy
32 Posted 27/01/2014 at 22:07:44
Dave, there have only been two negative comments on this thread one by Tom Owen and one by myself which was more in response to Dan's response to Tom's post so why all the angst? If you read the full thread, you'll find that even Bill's detractors have praised him for his actions last Saturday.

Dan Strike him a medal then he obviously deserves one.

Dave Williams
33 Posted 27/01/2014 at 22:12:04
Patrick, Phil Walling #540??
Maybe an overreaction - getting tensed up over tomorrow when I will be stuck on a train with no wifi til 10 pm!
Kevin Tully
34 Posted 27/01/2014 at 22:13:57
A great story and one that does the club proud. Bill makes a great figurehead to represent Everton it's just a shame he has found himself in a world of billionaires and sharks. His ideal time to have ownership of Everton was probably 40 years ago.

I don't think many have ever questioned his devotion to the club, just his suitability to take us forward. The man himself has admitted he is out of his depth. We can't go on selling players forever can we?

Patrick Murphy
35 Posted 27/01/2014 at 22:25:46
Sorry Dave but that almost looked praiseworthy when you name-check the poster. I wish I could avoid all news of the game until the final whistle, but I understand what you mean not knowing is often worse than knowing what is happening.
Dan Brierley
36 Posted 27/01/2014 at 22:12:15
Another well thought, articulate out response Patrick. If you are going to debate mate, then find something worth debating.

Kenwright is a multi-millionaire yet you seem to think the only reason he goes to the match is because it is free and he gets to meet other people? It makes no sense whatsoever. For people with that amount of wealth, their time is worth exceptionally more than the cost of anything they might choose to do.

Mike Byrne
37 Posted 27/01/2014 at 22:25:02
Dave Williams 606 no overreaction at all but I am the opposite.

Can't get to the game so thinking where I can go and not see/hear it I just can't watch a derby game live on TV.

Last time I did my TV broke for some reason the full can of Tetley's that was thrown at it and went throughout the screen might have had something to do with it but I can't be sure.

As for watching in a in company in a pub forget it lol be like the OK Coral, the Alamo and Little Big Horn rolled into one by the Ned.

At the moment, I'm going to see the new Jack Ryan film at the cinema is winning as that too starts at 8pm and lasts just under two hours.

As for BK, I absolutely hate him with a passion second only to my hatred of the Redshite... and then he goes and does something like this no wonder I am mixed, but fairplay, Bill, that was a nice. touch.

Tom R Owen
38 Posted 27/01/2014 at 22:30:33
Totally agree with Kevin (#611). Let us not forget BK's unpleasant outburst just prior to the AGM. Felt like he had been raped? A crass and truly unpleasant response. That and all the lies makes me think he is not so wonderful.
Dave Williams
39 Posted 27/01/2014 at 22:39:40
I am similar to you, Mike. I declined tickets to various derbies for years since 0-3 in Rooney's first at Goodison... then I couldn't resist the semi-final which then took me months to get over.

I am not too displeased at not being able to watch it live but it would be nice to sneak a quick look at the score rather than to keep hoping and then....

It may just be different with Roberto come on, boys, you owe us one!

Patrick Murphy
40 Posted 27/01/2014 at 22:40:56
Dan, I don't claim to be a debating champion, nor do I claim to be articulate, I am just an ordinary Joe who has an opinion and I'm sorry but your response to Tom was less than charitable. It's a fair point that he could have taken a salary but that doesn't mean he is the chairman out of the goodness of his heart either.

Of course he travels the length and breadth of the country watching the Blues, that's the nature of his day-job mixing with and making connections with those who have money and power.

If not football, he would be on the golf course or some other leisure activity where he could make contacts that he might find useful; anyway we all have different opinions which is why this site is here in the first place. 'C'est la Vie.'

Dan Brierley
41 Posted 27/01/2014 at 23:02:42
Very true, Patrick. Regardless of our views on the Chairman, or indeed any other matter, tomorrow will see all Blues worldwide unite with only one thing important: reminding the Shite that they are indeed shite by beating them on their own patch.
Tom R Owen
42 Posted 27/01/2014 at 23:16:20
God, I really hope so, Dan! COYB
Mick Davies
43 Posted 28/01/2014 at 00:23:06
Patrick Murphy, yes he could be on a golf course somewhere or some other leisure activity where he wouldn't be getting vile abuse from people who don't appreciate what he's done/doing for the club.
Eugene Ruane
44 Posted 28/01/2014 at 00:21:22
Sorry but I can't just ignore this.

I'm really glad Martin and his lad had a great day, but when I see "We as Everton fans should be proud that we have a decent and honourable man in our Chairman Bill Kenwright" I could fucking spew.

I had a mate, now deceased, who was a mad Evertonian.

With a bunch of lads we went home and away in the 70s and 80s.

He was sharp, had a very quick mind, could be very funny but was as devious as fuck and a huge Tom Pepper.

Fortunately for us, his lies never impacted negatively on us in any meaningful way and only provided entertainment.

He could also, when necessary, be charm personified.

He reminds me SO much of Luvvie - someone I see as a genuinely superb con-man.

BK has lied to Evertonians over and over and over and over, yet (incredibly) is still seen by some as 'unfortunate not to be rich enough' or 'at the mercy of Lord Grantchester' or whatever other complete nonsense is being spouted by way of excusing his obvious and open deceitfulness.

Is he friendly and charming and courteous?

Of COURSE he fucking is, how far would any flim-flam artist get by being aggressive, nasty and unfriendly?

Well keep this in mind.

It WASN'T Lord Grantchester who told Evertonians - "the check will be in the bank in the morning" (Fortress Sports Fund)

It WASN'T Peter Johnson who told Evertonians "The money is ringfenced" (Kings Dock)

And don't forget who told Evertonians (ie: you!) "It will be an effectively free stadium with world class transport and Tesco will be providing 50 million towards it" (Destination Kirkby) - again totally invented bullshit to get you to vote 'yes'.

Complete bare-faced lies TO EVERTONIANS (nb: NOT mistakes, NOT someone else's fault, NOT bad luck)

Decent?

HONOURABLE!?

Oh and to those who actually believe he's been 'I've been ooking for a buyer 24/7 since day one', remember what was revealed at the inquiry.

"6.10 A further point that is of relevance to any debate on the options that might be available to the Club to fund a new stadium, is the willingness and abilities of the Club's directors to sell some or all of their interests in the Club in order to attract an investor who or which might have the ability in financial terms to fund a new stadium in its entirety or at the very least fund the shortfall that exists in the context of this proposals. As is pointed out in greater detail in the financial statement document 26), this is not an option as the current directors have no intention of selling any of their interests in the Club.

Ignore what you want, believe what you want, but keep this in mind - every SUCCESSFUL con-man in history was credible and came across as someone who could be..trusted.

Paul Kelly
45 Posted 28/01/2014 at 00:36:41
Nice one Martin. Quality read.
Brent Stephens
46 Posted 28/01/2014 at 01:00:40
Well played, Bill.
Brent Stephens
47 Posted 28/01/2014 at 01:05:36
Martin McGeever, don't let a little rant spoil your memories. Glad you posted, mate.
Ross Kerry
48 Posted 28/01/2014 at 00:58:41
A member of my family had very similar treatment, Kenwright was a diamond.

You've got to separate that from him failing to prevent the stagnation of a great football club.

Nearly 20 years without a trophy, shameful.

Eugene Ruane
49 Posted 28/01/2014 at 01:24:14
Brent, apologies for letting facts spoil the magic.
Jim Harrison
50 Posted 28/01/2014 at 01:37:57
Great post, Martin, glad you contributed.

Eugene, maybe sometimes it's just better to let things go? Your opinions and statements are fair and probably accurate, but is there a need to stamp on other peoples opinions at every turn?

In relation to Martins experiences BK has done well by him and he is right to express his feelings.

Brent Stephens
51 Posted 28/01/2014 at 02:14:32
Eugene, it's just that I thought it was a great post about a personal story, in which Bill, maybe unusually played a decent part.

I know the other facts are there let's have a go at Bill elsewhere.

My rant over!

Paul Ferry
52 Posted 28/01/2014 at 02:09:47
Oh crumbs... here I go again waddling into waist deep quicksand but here goes.

There is not a single false word in what Eugene (#632) had to say in what is quite frankly one of the better informed posts on this thread. It is not a 'little rant' Brent (#639) it is a volley of truth and I for one can completely understand why Eugene might feel more than a little hot under the collar about the undiluted Bill luv-in one here as opposed to, for instance, the somewhat superior diluted contributions.

Jim (#646), I completely agree with your last sentence and my hunch is that Eugene does too not my call, I know, just a hunch, Eugene can't half speak for himself.

It is a question of pitch and balance and I was genuinely warmed by Martin's lovely story but it does not make Bill 'our special one'. It's what he's good at the impresario, shaking hands. In fact, he's very good at chatting with fans unless they have the sheer audacity to question him about what he is doing when he gets out of the car on matchdays.

Lovable, smiley, cheery, Corrie, 70s sheepskin (the Forty Years Ago quote above is spot on), Boys Pen, Blue through and through (and he is) blustery Bill.

His one main redeeming feature is exactly what made Martin post in the first place; this what is it public relations/warmness/chummy thing? Yeah, sure, on this score decent. But what about the fucking rest? and that I believe was Eugene's extremely fair point.

With regard to this post/thread and others like it with similar situations/sentiments, it must always be a question of balance. Yes, heap on the unmitigated praise, Gopal-, Tonge- Gaynes-like (and that's just three). And let's not spoil Martin's big day except that I wish he had not used the 'special' tag coz that he ain't.

There's been a sort of moratorium on the lying gobshite these last six months or so and that is down needless to say his Bobby pick, the Manure wheeling and dealing, and what Bobby and the boys have done on the pitch. There are good times at The Old Lady. Kenwright had surely his best ever summer in the chair. But that can never ever paper over the deep deep cracks of the disgraceful litany correctly reeled off by Eugene and there's more that he did not have time to squeeze in.

What on earth is wrong in saying "Nice one, Bill, it's wonderful what a day you had Sean (and Dad)" makes me think yet again of the human side of footie that so often goes missing these days, but also never forgetting what a lying gobshite BK has been in other fields of his chairmanship the ones, sad to say, that matter much more than 'human side' in getting Everton back to where we ought to be.

Brent Stephens
53 Posted 28/01/2014 at 02:54:58
Paul,

I know what where you're coming from, mate. Most of us will agree what a toad BK is.

Despite the title of this OP, I just felt it was, in the writing, less about Bill and more about a great experience that Martin and family had and were reliving. My guess is that other posters were responding about that great personal experience rather than about that great toad Bill, who just happened to be part of that story.

But, ok, Bill's a shit! (Sorry, Martin, they got me!).

Paul Ferry
54 Posted 28/01/2014 at 03:08:37
Brent you're spot on 'Despite the title of this OP, I just felt it was, in the writing, less about Bill and more about a great experience that Martin and family had and were reliving'.

'In the writing' is exactly why the OP matters and I for one have not recognized this enough. It is a lovely and heartfelt piece of writing about a 'special' moment in a life.

And you're also right about others not all honing in on 'personal experience', a dead nice distinction that that makes a difference.

Brent Stephens
55 Posted 28/01/2014 at 03:34:17
Cheers, Paul.
Jim Harrison
56 Posted 28/01/2014 at 03:24:28
Paul, Brent, you are echoing my thoughts. Martin's personal experiences were "special", and it's nice to think that supporters are still (sometimes at least!!) considered as people and not just gate receipts and shirt sales.

I often get the feeling that on this site we are too willing to jump on people's opinions. Debate is great, and when people say really stupid things it's not surprising that they are barracked. But when someone puts together a well worded, if a touch rose-tinted piece, maybe we should ease off the reality check and bask in the positives.

Bill has been slated in many posts, he will continue to be slated until he either comes up with the goods or shifts the club to a new owner. Done to death. But, as the old saying goes, credit where it is due.

Paul Ferry
57 Posted 28/01/2014 at 03:44:39
Great post Jim mate - 656.
Jim Harrison
58 Posted 28/01/2014 at 03:59:51
Cheers Paul, its a right old love in now!!!!
Dan Brierley
59 Posted 28/01/2014 at 07:19:23
Paul, I think what annoys people (myself included) is that Eugene's post is just full of opinion, there is nothing factual about it. It's derived from what the guy has read on the Internet, most of it coming from this very site.

Regarding the FSF investment for Paul Greggs shares, it's quite clear that Chris Samuleson was the guy making public promises about investment. Kenwright trusted the guy and also went public. Turns out FSF did not invest, and slipped into the shadows. I wouldn't call Bill a liar for this, just naive. It was Samuleson who was clearly the liar.

The Kings Dock is also not a lie. The money was ringfenced. But upon further investigation, it was revealed to be a 30 million unsecured reverse mortgage that was rejected as it posed severe risk to the club. There are some views that the Kings Dock was a project we simply could not afford at that time, and could have caused more damage than good.

DK was rejected not because of funding or transport links. It was rejected by the Home Office as it infringed Government Policy on diverting shoppers away from town centres. Ironically, it was also funded in the same way that KD was going to be yet people don't mention this element.

The comment about the club not being for sale is just dumb. The context of the question from the enquiry, was that the club was not for sale as part of the proposed move. Not in general. Or in other words, Tesco or anyone else with vested interest were not buying Everton and forcing the move just to enable the retail development.

There you see Paul are some alternative views, equally as 'factual' or 'truthful' as Eugene's in that it is all formed from stuff I read on the internet. The genuine truth is, that Eugene hasn't any clue about what really happened in the transactions he has mentioned, as he was not involved in any capacity. Same applies to me.

Eugene Ruane
60 Posted 28/01/2014 at 07:41:29
It was a nice story and I repeat, I'm glad everyone had a wonderful day.

Believe it or not, I thought for quite a while about posting what I did and there was a part of me saying 'let it go'.

And I would have had it not been for this - 'We as Everton fans should be proud that we have a decent and honourable man in our Chairman Bill Kenwright'.

Sorry but imo, that is not part of the story of a wonderful day, that is an opinion and one I believe shouldn't/can't go unchallenged, not given the mountain of evidence to the contrary.

Derek Thomas
61 Posted 28/01/2014 at 07:39:22
Credit where credit ( with a deliberate small c ) is due to Boys Pen Billly but.... one or two, a dozen, fifty, a hundred acts of common human kindness over the years... which, unless you are a total nomark of the lowest order, SHOULD BE THE STANDARD, I mean how hard is it to do some one a good turn... ( yes I know it is rarer than it should be, but still )

But stack these ' private acts' against his public fiascos KD etc and the scale doesn't even register a quiver.

The 2 personas are totally separate...apples and oranges.

It's Bill's job to be nice and plausible, he's an actor, he pretends to be somebody else, for money.

His other job is putting on shows and getting people ( called Angels in the argot ) to invest ( aka put in some of the money and thus assume the some of the risk ) so that he doesn't have to front it all himself.

Fair play for Martin at Stevenage, but wouldn't we and shouldn't we all help some one if it cost us in real terms 5/8th of fuck all, bar a few mins chin wag with one of your acquaintances.

Indeed, The Kenwright Dilemma in a nutshell.

David Ellis
62 Posted 28/01/2014 at 08:11:54
I don't think there is any real argument here lads. Bill has a great deal of empathy for human beings - he can be great on the touchy feely stuff AND he's not achieved material investment into EFC (and so held us back).

I think the original OP is a great story. Credit where due etc. But at the sharp end of the business I am not sure Bill is top of the league. Two sides of the same coin.

Brent Stephens
63 Posted 28/01/2014 at 08:30:45
We could always discuss Bill on another thread. I just feel this is spoiling a great experience and recollection of that experience by Martin and family. Which IMO is what the OP was really about.
Mark Murphy
64 Posted 28/01/2014 at 08:48:06
Nonsense!
It was Steve Watson who got the hat trick - not Dave!

Apart from that, what a beautiful story - I'm in bits. Lots of supporters think their club is special, but in our case we are right!

All the best Martin, to you and your family and sorry for being pedantic - my wife says its my second most disappointing attribute...

Colin Wainwright
65 Posted 28/01/2014 at 08:26:12
Crackin' story and I'm glad you and your family had such a good day Martin. Really nice touch from Bill.

Dan, you've asserted this line, that Bill's litany of lies is purely based on internet derived fiction, on a number of threads lately. It is true that anyone can twist any factual information to suit their own agenda. Witness Osbourne telling the country that, because we are seeing housing bubble-based growth in the South-East, the economy is fixed, everyone has a great job and fairies do actually exist.

Now Osbourne does this, as he is an intelligent man, to suit his own and his party's, specific agenda, ie. hoodwinking enough people to vote his god-awful, dog of a government into power for five more years. But, in another reality, it could be that he is just a really gullible person. Someone who doesn't use the evidence of his own eyes, but prefers to take everything he is told as the gospel truth.

We all know which category Osbourne falls into. You apparently think that Bill falls into the latter camp. Where do you sit Dan?

Jim Lloyd
66 Posted 28/01/2014 at 08:52:52
It is sad to see but really can't be helped, a debate mixing up one incident; and a track record of our chairman over a period where BK has been instrumental in where our club has headed since he took over the reins.

What he did for Martin, and especially his son, was a fine, heartwarming act. If that incident is taken in isloation, then I think he deserves praise for it.

However, Martin mentioned that BK is a "fine and honourable man" and is "our special one." That then opens up the debate into the wider actions of a man described as above.

In his time as Chairman, we have seen King's Dock pass before our eyes and become the Echo Arena, as if back some form of Black Magic. Well it must have happened that way seeing as our contribution of 30 million was Ring Fenced. Some might believe that BK had been misquoted, or it was there but somehow disappeared when it came to putting the money where the mouth was.

Then there was the pantomime of him suddenly being taken by some bloke he'd hardly ever met and offered to provide the cash to get rid of Gregg. I can remember the picture in the Echo still of him and Samuelson in the Directors box. Maybe BK was just too niaive.

Too me, the way he has treated the fans, and especially the Season Ticket Holders over the Kirkby catastrophe shows what the real Bill Kenwright is.

Hate to sour a good act. It was a good individual act but there is no way I can see him, as described as our Chairman.

Eugene Ruane
67 Posted 28/01/2014 at 09:09:59
Let's go through desperate Dan's 'maybe if I sow a bit of doubt and murky the waters' post shall we.

"Paul, I think what annoys people (myself included) is that Eugene's post is just full of opinion, there is nothing factual about it. It's derived from what the guy has read on the Internet, most of it coming from this very site. Regarding the FSF investment for Paul Gregg's shares, it's quite clear that Chris Samuleson was the guy making public promises about investment. Kenwright trusted the guy and also went public. Turns out FSF did not invest, and slipped into the shadows. I wouldn't call Bill a liar for this, just naive. It was Samuleson who was clearly the liar"

So my 'opinion' is simply 'what I read on the internet'

Fine... where does Dan get his 'facts' - Bill? (possibly!)

As for 'ahhhhhhh poor Bill was just naive' - give me strength

BK is/was the man in charge, buck stops with him, end of story.

He continues..

"The Kings Dock is also not a lie. The money was ringfenced. But upon further investigation, it was revealed to be a 30 million unsecured reverse mortgage that was rejected as it posed severe risk to the club. There are some views that the Kings Dock was a project we simply could not afford at that time, and could have caused more damage than good"

Oh God it could have caused more damage? Well hats of to BK, he actually saved us, he really is an angel.

Then we get these hard facts..

'THERE ARE SOME VIEWS' - Yes?

'ON FURTHER INVESTIGATION! - By who, when, wtf?

'COULD HAVE CAUSED' - Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

Yes I wish I had the facts like Dan.

This ludicrous apologist goes on..

"DK was rejected not because of funding or transport links. It was rejected by the Home Office as it infringed Government Policy on diverting shoppers away from town centres. Ironically, it was also funded in the same way that KD was going to be yet people don't mention this element"

In relation to BK's bullshit and lies, WHY DK was rejected is not important (nb: which is why I didn't talk about WHY it was rejected). What IS important is what the inquiry and entire process revealed along the way.

We were told we'd be 'getting a state of the art stadium' - lie.

We were told we'd have the best transport links (rather than some supporters having to wait an hour and 45 mins for a train) - lie

We were told the stadium would be effectively free - lie.

(nb: people voted 'yes' on the strength of this bollocks).

He goes on..

"The comment about the club not being for sale is just dumb. The context of the question from the enquiry, was that the club was not for sale as part of the proposed move. Not in general. Or in other words, Tesco or anyone else with vested interest were not buying Everton and forcing the move just to enable the retail development"

Ahh it was in 'the context' and 'not in general' - politician weasel-speak bollocks, when this was revealed at the inquiry it came as a shock to many Evertonians as what had been decided in private went totally against what we were (now) being told.

Finally there's..

"There you see Paul are some alternative views, equally as 'factual' or 'truthful' as Eugene's in that it is all formed from stuff I read on the internet. The genuine truth is, that Eugene hasn't any clue about what really happened in the transactions he has mentioned, as he was not involved in any capacity. Same applies to me"

There you have it, the 'genuine' truth, a complete load of ifs, buts and maybes designed to dodge the truth and deflect.

And again with 'he read it on the internet' - he says hoping you'll buy his bollocks which he's posting on (roll on the drums)...THE INTERNET!

(what next 'PAH, HE READ IT IN A BOOK!")

No doubt for Dan "I wouldn't sell Wayne Rooney for 50M" will be interpreted as 'Well that wasn't a lie as he was sold for 27M which plainly isn't 50M!"

Rob Young
68 Posted 28/01/2014 at 09:44:50
Great artcile, Martin. Very moving and indeed, as one of Kenwright's bigger critics, well done to Bill. It is true, we are a special club. Fot that reason alone we cannot lose tonight. Whatever the result, that lot can and will never be what Everton FC is.

Pff, nerves setting in for tonight. Roberto allows us to dream - which usually means we will get kicked in the nuts. I will watch it online, never been to the derby at their place. Will not be able to get a ticket for the Everton end and cannot see myself amongst the Kopites. Sat in between the Portuguese fans at Benfica and managed to keep myself quit untill the 5th went in. Out came the Everton shirt, couldn't care anymore about what might happen. I ran!

Anyway, another 90 minutes tonight in which I will turn from a decent, family man to a raving lunatic. But, I have this feeling, lads! I am sure to be remembering what I am doing today, what I am wearing, what my daughter has been saying and doing today ... and I am sure to be savouring these moments ... because, I many years to come I will look back and hopefully think of how my day panned before we won at their plave again for the first time in nearly 15 years!

In 1999, I watched the match in a pub, downing pint after pint, lighting the next cigarette with the last one. In 1995 I went to work as I couldn't spend another afternoon following the derby on the radio getting beat again.
Tonight ... It might just happen. 28 January 2014, we will remeber!

Jan Sear
69 Posted 28/01/2014 at 09:51:17
What a great story about Bill. LIke this family I feel privileged to be a part of this wonderful club. Bill Kenwright and Roberto Martinez are two of the most honourable and decent men in football and we are lucky to have such people in charge.

Good luck Martin and Sean and your quest for away tickets.

Dennis Stevens
70 Posted 28/01/2014 at 11:34:03
I trust Martin passed on his good fortune to a couple of others in the form of his no longer required match tickets. It would be nice to think Kenwright's kind gesture had a knock-on effect for others too.
Tony J Williams
71 Posted 28/01/2014 at 12:36:44
Brilliant story Martin......but the cynical side of me thinks that Bill didn't have to spend a penny on this great gesture. He simply had a word in the shelllike of the owner/chairman and wangled a couple of seats near him (probably for people who didn't turn up).

Nice gesture and I am made up for you, but he is certainly not a "special one".

Alex Bonnar
72 Posted 28/01/2014 at 12:42:43
Nice story Martin - many thanks.

Just ignore the cynics and let's give BK some credit - he is not perfect (who is?) but basically I feel a decent man and good Evertonian. Although some people on TW will never accept this and always produce mounds of 'facts' to support their own opposite held views. "Twas forever thus".

Dan Brierley
73 Posted 28/01/2014 at 15:59:48
Brilliant. The irrefutable logic of Eugene Birkin QC:

"The information I found on the internet are real facts, bona fide truths or even mountains of evidence. And amazingly, the information I found just so happens to conveniently underpin my views. Any information on the internet that does not support my views, must be lies used by ludicrous apologists."

There is no arguing with that. Flawless.

Tommy Davis
74 Posted 28/01/2014 at 08:53:32
Great story Martin, thanks for sharing.... The one thing I would like to say, is that BK did not have to spend anytime talking to you, it's one thing getting you 'set up' with tickets etc, but to actually talk to you & the family.... Kudos to him for that! I know these occasions mean so much to us fans & they are never to be forgotten.... Special One at a Special Club indeed... COYB for tonight's Derby match!!

Reminds of a similar time, when Colin Harvey was EFC manager & I had flown back home from the States, without a Cup Final ticket & of all years, it was the extremely emotional 1989 game, with our cousins across the park! Long story cut short, Colin came through with the ticket & I also got to mingle with him & the players after the match at the hotel, were we spent a long time discussing ALL things Royal Blue!!

Graham Mockford
75 Posted 28/01/2014 at 16:52:07
The Kenwright argument is an interesting one.

There is no doubt in my mind he has made some real howlers, but I get why that is the case. He took over a club with no real experience of running a football business.

I think he has had to learn some very hard lessons of his own making but I think the portrayal of him as some Machivellian character trying to feather his own nest on the back of our club is way off the mark.

His appointment of two managers has also been pretty good ( no Moyes debate please!!!)

The story in the OP shows his empathy to Everton supporters and demonstrates some basic human kindness. I have spent some time in his company and found him to be completely Everton obsessed. Yes he's a bit of a drama queen, probably why he's done well in his chosen profession.

I guess the question is would we rather have someone in charge who's in it for the money or the personal prestige or someone I believe genuinely wants the best for Everton.

Brian Denton
76 Posted 28/01/2014 at 23:18:35
Might be wise to close this thread for a few hours.........

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