Everton set seal on Besic move

HeÂ’s going to have to learn English pretty sharpish, as our squad is a bit short on Bosnian speakers. Or German speakers, for that matter.

I also assume he will be in contention for first team duty for the next pre-season game !

Even if he doesnÂ’t slot in to the Prem side, he will put pressure on the players ahead of him, should that be the case !

Welcome aboard Mo !

e.g. vs. Argentina

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Uyy_vcx3GI

Kev #4, the lad grew up in Berlin and Hamburg so his English is probably better than half our squadÂ’s!

Onwards and upwards.

( did someone say need a striker?)

Thanks for the link mate, he certainly looks to be useful,good awareness and brilliant distributor of the ball .

Why do these clips on you tube, always have the most annoying tunes to accompany them ? I know you press the mute , but it doesnÂ’t quite seem the same with no background noises, ie. shouts ball hitting bar or post etc.0

Harold (my toffeewiki!), how did you pick up that Roberto didnÂ’t know him until WC?

Seems to speak pretty good English already on the videos on the official site. Says Martinez was his biggest reason for coming.

Think we should give Rodwell a break. Good kid, brilliant teenager who moved like a Gizelle... Injuries and moving too early held him back in my opinion.

Having another midfielder with a "bit of steel in his armoury" is no bad thing at all.

Just hope that he adjusts to the PL quickly, but if it takes a season then so be it.

Now letÂ’s get Romelu to get his pen out !

Did he play in the Europa games or was he still on World Cup leave??

IÂ’m not so sure he has been playing but could be completely wrong

What Roberto really needs to do now is sort out a striker. No more short term loan solutions either, sign a striker permanently and put and end to this problem.

It will be great if itÂ’s Lukaku but if not then so be it, find someone else.

I hope personally, that he will not wait too long before being introduced into the Prem games even if it is from the bench!

Oh yeah, and for all your Bosnian Toffees out there:

I to je Everton, Everton fc, mi smo daleko najveći tim je svijet ikada vidio

Hajde ti blues!

Assuming he met Roberto out in Brazil (only an assumption, but...), then so much for the criticism of Roberto being in Brazil when he should have been signing players!

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The second one? Well, Toffee Lady Amanda Holden uttered the words with impressive gusto at the end of this Everton in the Community clip. (At 1:32, if you canÂ’t be bothered watching the whole thing.)

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From his interview, he seems a very focused, serious individual and he has the same squinty stare as Roy Keane. Hopefully heÂ’ll turn into a quality midfielder like Roy did, and I think Martinez sees him as the long-term partner for McCarthy.

My main concern about the balance in the side is that McCarthy, Besic, Barry and Gibson all seem very like similar kinds of players. I really would love to see Martinez nab someone with some creativity to play centre mid, for when we play teams like Leicester who sit deep.

I would echo AlÂ’s (#6) comments but in the 93rd minute when weÂ’re 3-0 up at their place.

LetÂ’s welcome the lad and hope heÂ’s good enough to force his way into the first team on a regular basis and have a long and successful career at EFC.

Listening to Besic on OS seems like heÂ’s got his head screwed on. When asked what did Martinez say to him, he replied "itÂ’s between us". Not giving any secrets away, and then when asked about his ambitions for the season he didnÂ’t want to set any targets, just to make a good impression on the pitch. Also said he can play almost anywhere. LetÂ’s hope he can play in goal if Howard gets injured during a game!!

I note your comments and tend to agree, but one defensive position really worries me, the ultimate one!

As I have mentioned before, Tim Howard canÂ’t be expected to play every game, and letÂ’s not even think if he picked up an injury. Robles just simply is not good enough.

I couldnÂ’t understand also why Stanek never even got any sort of game time in either of the two pre-season games, while all other squad members were rotated!

I trust Roberto, but feel maybe he knows something or is there another surprise!

I personally would like Marshall from Cardiff (if heÂ’s still there that is). Look a very promising keeper but would he be prepared to sit on the bench most weeks?

I think this kid is going to be a steal.

He looks hard as shit.

I think this is going to be a fantastic signing. ItÂ’s exactly the kind of signing we need - buy the as of yet unheralded young talent cheap.

I trust RM to find these diamonds for years to come.

As others have said, now please, please go get Lukaku.

You are exactly right there mate!

"Problem with goalkeepers Derek, is that they can only play in goal, nowhere else!"

That is exactly my point, Robles canÂ’t ! With any degree of inspiring confidence either in the players in front of him, or us fans watching his poor positional sense!

Great shout on Marshall!

Hopefully Duffy can force his way into Martinez’s plans and –with Garbutt looking like he will be challenging Baines and Oviedo for the left back position – it’s looking like we are quite formidable from goalkeeper to defensive midfield with just the right back position needing strengthening as Hibbert and Stones can do a job but not at the level that we need.

As for Lukaku he is prolonging too much his hedging of bets. Time for Plan B and a different striker.

Everyone else got some game time in, except the Stanek lad.

I donÂ’t think Barkley or Besic were ever down to play, and went because of the PR side to appease the sponsors, King Power, or, in our case, Chang!

Now for strikers. Whatever happened to Bony?

Finally. Welcome aboard, kick some ass.

Remember in the Â’70s when England had both Ray Clemence and, Peter Shilton I think it was, and they played alternate games, just to keep them both happy. That canÂ’t be good for instilling confidence in a back four towards their goalkeeper.

If, for arguments sake, we did sign Marshall from Cardiff, how long would it be before he decided to call it a day because he wasnÂ’t playing enough?

HeÂ’s a Colin, not a Howard.

We have spent £4 million on him, a Championship transfer amount at best. We paid £5 million for Johnny Heitinga years ago and he won’t exactly go down as a legend, will he??

Besic is young enough and, without any evidence to prove otherwise, we will have to trust Roberto’s instincts. There’s players joining our nearest rivals for £3 and £4 million that aren’t even making the news ,yet we are trumpeting his arrival as some sort of second coming of Everton legends of times gone by!

It goes to prove what disappointing business we have done this summer when thereÂ’s such excitement about a player who is obviously going to take time like the Fellainis etc before him to settle into a new country and culture.

Our team of last season were short a striker (thatÂ’s with Lukaku in the squad) and a playmaker; in my opinion, we havenÂ’t addressed either with 3 weeks to kick-off.

Glad you brought that up, I have not got to remind you that we are involved on four fronts this season, so that will most probably be one game every four days or so, not to mention the travelling element!

So, hopefully you can see my concern, and two decent keepers could well be employed, without any dissent or (hopefully not) injury!

His passing looks really accurate and instinctive (apart from one very unwise example).

His movement seems very intelligent.

His tackling looks bloody solid.

On this evidence, no wonder Roberto has tracked him for a couple of years, thanks ESPN for paying for RobertoÂ’s fact finding mission.

Colin Harvey wore No 6.
John Hurst used to wear No 10.
Mo sounds more like a Howard Kendall — No 4.

By the way, I wish YouTube montages would give a swerve to players doing step-overs. TheyÂ’re no big deal. Anyone can do them - it depends whether thereÂ’s an end result. If not, they are pitifully naff.

When I played Sunday League, if an opponent did step-overs in front of me, I just thought "Yeah, yeah, get on with it, you bloody poser". Then I kicked him.

Just been watching our last season highlights and its essential that we get Lukaku, he has that rare physical presence that gives defenders the willies.

Then I woke up.

This guy looks to have an edge to him. I really liked his interview on the official site, respectful of Roberto and his new teammates who I am sure will get the best out of him.

Seems like we have got us a quality player at a decent price.

Everybody else seems to be buying their players so why donÂ’t we take a punt on their goalie?

HeÂ’s a very good shot stopper, but his decision making is letting him down I admit. What he needs is match practice, no wonder heÂ’s rusty!

Problem is if heÂ’s making bloomers, like when Leicester scored, heÂ’s probably not going to get the games unless he goes on loan somewhere. ItÂ’s difficult for any 2nd choice goalie I suppose.

I hope to see plenty of him in our colours!!!

I agree with you completely. Keepers need games in order to improve. It is so much more psychological than any other position. Experience is absolutely key. I think it makes sense to send him out on loan with an option to recall him.

Stanek can warm the bench for now and also represent the club at U21 level.

That’s hilarious. In the men’s league I play in – and I certifiably suck never having even touched a soccer ball until aged 40 – when some douche starts his shitty Ronaldo impersonation with the step overs my eyes instinctively leave the ball and I look right at his mid-section so the prick can’t get by me (that’s how they teach it in hockey...). Then you just pull the "Oops! Sorry ’bout that, Ol’ friend, I was gong for the ball."

If some dude in a menÂ’s league (read pub league) is pulling that crap - if they were good enough to pull it off theyÂ’d not be playing in the old fart league IÂ’m in... kick em down... help em up - gotta be a gentleman about it after all...

Following RobertoÂ’s orders, he and his team watch youth tournaments worldwide and carefully monitor the progress of those they have earmarked. These lads will probably be followed by Henen and Galloway. What else is going on is anyones guess but itÂ’s all very exciting.

After all those years my memory is totally crap, and having worn the #10 shirt I played nothing like John Hurst – or Colin for that matter...

As well as lacking match practice heÂ’s probably letting his nerves get the better of him when he does get a chance to play, and of course he knows as well as anyone when heÂ’s making mistakes which only adds to his anxiety.

Apart from these 2 and Traore there are no other genuine targets. If these guys are our only primary targets, whats happened to our transfer budget? Besic £4M, Lukaku £18-22M, Benin £2M and Traore £1M loan which is a total of between £25-29M. I know this is normally huge for us but that budget only covers our remaining recouped sales from Fellaini £14M (knocking off the McCarthy buy), Jelavic £6M and Anichebe £6M.

I want to know what has happened to the large TV revenue and prize money we should have received in the last two seasons.

I saw him a couple of weeks ago in Crosby but resisted the temptation to exact retribution for the many heinous fouls he committed on our forwards.

Excellent pass completion stats in the World Cup, but not just short Essien style 2-10 yard passes.

Absolute steal at rumoured price. Welcome aboard Mo!

I wouldnÂ’t ever buy on the above info as if we were too you may end up with El Hagi Diouf or Phil Babb!!!

That said, I have faith in Bobby and would like to believe he knows an awful lot more than me who to spend our money on, so I must say IÂ’m more than happy with our acquisition.
Welcome aboard, Mo!

Get a grip people!! "The new Colin Harvey"??? Up until a month ago, not one Everton fan had ever heard of him and now he is some reincarnation of past everton legends?? I am sure the lad has potential but will also take time to fit into a new country and culture.

Christ, we have been talking about Champions League?? We can talk about what we do and don’t need financially but £4 million on transfers doesn’t move us anywhere but backwards!! £30 million minimum is what we should expect with our TV revenue, player sales, and keeping our fucking powder dry??

Lukaku and one other major signing at the very least or itÂ’s glass ceiling time again!!

Will the moaners at least give it a rest for a day or two now?

One new player an hour and it will be all be sorted by breakfast this morning.

Why canÂ’t the Club see this?????

Earlier, you comment that the fee is "a Championship transfer amount at best." Somebody needs to respond to this utter drivel... what would you call Seamus Coleman at $60k? Such negativity is unbelievable! Then you add: "without any evidence to prove otherwise, we will have to trust RobertoÂ’s instincts." A face-palm moment if ever there was one.

Yes, I hate it as well when people have to match current players with those of yesteryear — a totally meaningless exercise — but the transfer window still has plenty of life left in it. Please allow it to run its course, and even then, don’t prejudge the signings (what is the point?). You’ve heard this lad state he signed for Everton because of Roberto Martinez. Let’s see what he can do in a Royal blue Everton shirt under his tutelage (hopefully with a suitable allowance of time to bed in, please).

http://thepremierleagueowl.com/everton-steal-muhamed-besic-and-make-the-rest-of-the-league-blush/

Positive signing, yes, but IÂ’d rather see the kid play in a blue shirt before making any judgments positive or negative...

We still need to invest in a proven creative CM and Lukaku.

Feel free to call me dr doom but I cannot be the only Blue praying we get a season out of Gibson.

IÂ’m not bothered about lack of No9. I think the way we play Mirallas could do a job

Think Lukaku no longer quite does the job for us.

TW has this debate every pre-season, but I would hold up our transfer dealings up over the last few years against most. LetÂ’s hold our nerves for at least a couple more weeks.

They, ( RS ) implying it was over the medical, and Harry quite plausibly ( for once ) saying that he has at least four similar medicals, in the last year. Marseilles, QPR,Newcastle and for the French National team just prior to the WC !

I, like you, have always believed that Lukaku ,would eventually arrive, but this has been protracted beyond all comprehension .

I am also a bit skeptical as to the dialogue , supposedly emanating from Everton about alternatives etc. More worryingly so, Roberto saying that LukakuÂ’s contributions will not be forgotten, but that was last season etc.

WouldnÂ’t it be ironic if, the aforementioned Monsieur Remy ,turned out to be one of those alternatives , should the unthinkable happen ?

It would certainly spice up interest in the Derbies !

I note also, having brought up the subject of Goalkeepers for this season coming , that we have been linked with a move for Reading keeper Alex McCarthy !

Yeah. This Remy business is a strange affair. Feel a bit sorry for the lad. Something to do with the heart I believe but Harry didnÂ’t mention it. Very talented lad who knows where the net is.

On the Lukaku thing. YouÂ’re right. It was quite strange. Martinez deliberately referred to him in the past tense. "He was here, he was a great bloke, now letÂ’s move on." sort of thing. Transfer tactics? I wouldnÂ’t know. ItÂ’s certainly got us all tied up in knots.

Alex McCarthy eh? Interesting. A proper goalie. Does he still have his diamond business and celebrity girlfriends? Much more assured than Robles who is a bag of nerves and would be a good backup for Howard. Our ace goalie coach would bring him on a ton. Amazing bloke. Where did Roberto find this guy?

All in all heÂ’s another string to the bow and he looks like a good one!

On what basis? A 2 minute clip on YouTube where a step over is repeated 6 times? Or 3 very average games in the World Cup? Very Cristiano Ronaldo, donÂ’t you think Micheal #113?

My point was a 4 million signing is not what we expected at this stage of pre-season. What I expected was the 5 or 6 quality players that Roberto insisted he needed only 3 months ago. I am glad we have signed him but not at the expense of the playmaker and forward-thinking players even Roberto himself has stated we desperately need.

I am all for optimism but sometimes you have to say it how it is. Besic and Barry in with 3 weeks to go is not good enough! Not when you see what our nearest rivals have done to improve.

If that " sickens" people tough because guess what it sickens me too!

Based on that premise, why the negativity over this lad ?

Coleman @£60k -embarrassing purchase by a once great Club reduced to buying players for pub team fees ?

No ?

If WE had purchased Torres at the time for £50 million then we’d all have been wetting ourselves with anticpation at the goals he was going to score. Title would have been nailed on.

That transfer didnÂ’t turn out too well, did it ?

WeÂ’ve already got three.

Now if we can sort out a couple of strikers we will be set for a good season. Lukaku on a permanent deal, Traore on loan and perhaps an other right winger (Atsu on Loan or Bahoui for a reasonable price). I see that Tadic has signed for Southampton. Shame as I thought he would be ideal for us.

This guy for me looks like he has great defensive qualities, with good control and passing and in my humble view a similar style to Kendall. If he turns out half as good we will be happy.

Totally agree on the other points you make, Michael.