Season › 2014-15 › News Swansea City vs Everton Lyndon Lloyd , 9 April, 90comments | Jump to most recent Match Preview Could Kevin Mirallas earn a recall now that he has recovered from a dead leg? With relegation fears effectively banished thanks to three Premier League wins in a row, Everton now have a top-ten finish in their sights with seven games of the season remaining. Last weekend's win over Southampton briefly lifted the Blues into 11th place, five points behind Stoke City in 10th but Roberto Martinez will know that if his team can keep on stringing together positive results then some pride — not to mention valuable prize money — can be salavaged from a disappointing campaign. The Catalan takes his charges back to the Liberty Stadium this weekend, scene of one of the worst performances of the season when they were turfed out of the Capital One Cup by the Swans' first ever win over an Everton side. An early League Cup exit was par for the course for the Toffees but the 3-0 reverse and the manner in which it was suffered foreshadowed further calamity to come in the Premier League. With one eye on re-establishing his side as a force capable of challenging for Europe again next term, Martinez will be seeking a very different outcome in the lunchtime Saturday kick-off. Article continues below video content He will likely have to achieve it without Romelu Lukaku who remains a big doubt with a hamstring injury. He came off clutching the back of his thigh against Queens Park Rangers a fortnight ago and then missed both of Belgium's international games plus Everton's League game against the Saints last Saturday. He is rated as 50-50 for this weekend but would be a surprise inclusion. "Romelu is a massive player for us and it would be a worry if we were not to miss him," Martinez said at his pre-match press conference. "We need to give as much time as we can before the game on Saturday. "At the moment, he is still 50-50 because it is an injury we need to make sure is 100 per cent well healed before we put him on the pitch. "The goalscoring threat Rom brings to the side is unique and we don't have a like-for-like replacement in that respect but we have other players who have shown they can bring a different way of playing and can be as effective." Should he miss out again, Arouna Kone will be the one to lead the line again, a responsibility he struggled with against Southampton. The Ivorian has shown himself to be tidy enough holding the ball up and bringing team mates into play but his final ball and his finishing have been sorely lacking since he has been given a run in the side and, to date, his opener at Newcastle at the end of December remains his only goal in Royal Blue. Kone was supported by Ross Barkley last time out, with Aaron Lennon on the right flank but Steven Naismith made a positive impact when he came on as a 70th-minute substitute and Kevin Mirallas is waiting in the wings to make his first start in a while after recovering from a dead leg. All will provide Martinez with options going forward, particularly if Lukaku is indeed ruled out. In midfield, Darron Gibson's season could be over after he fractured a bone in his foot last week but Steven Pienaar is fit again and could play a part and will likely vie with Mirallas and Leon Osman for the wider left berth. Gareth Barry and James McCarthy are the expected central midfield partnership and no changes are likely in the back four or in goal. Tony Hibbert and Bryan Oviedo are again ruled out through injury. For their part, Swansea have been a little unpredictable lately, having taken three away points from the St Mary's and beaten Manchester United at home but then losing at Tottenham and at the Liberty Stadium against Liverpool. With 13 wins in all, they remain in eighth place coming into the weekend, however, occupying the highest place Everton can realistically achieve over the season run-in. A win for the Blues would lift them to within six points of the Swans and closer to touching distance of £6m more in Premier League prize money. Kick off: 12.45pm Referee: Michael Oliver Full details: ToffeeWeb Match Reports Reader Comments (90) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer Andy Crooks 1 Posted 10/04/2015 at 00:37:06 I predict a good performance from Kone. He will get fitter, sharper and will want a new deal. He will score twice in our best win of the season. Monk is safe at Swansea. He has less to play for than Martinez. Minik Hansen 2 Posted 10/04/2015 at 00:52:21 If just Arouna Kone's cross to Osman got in in the last game, it would have made Kone more confident. Pienaar would lift part of the team, good chance to see him and Lennon on each flank and Mirallas as well. If Naisy starts it will be well deserved. Distin will have a proper impact at the back no doubt, who knows if he will be involved. I'd welcome him on the side.Anyways COYB. Abhishek Saha 3 Posted 10/04/2015 at 03:38:13 It is time to unleash the Pienaar - Baines magic on the left side of the pitch. The Swans would not have prepared for it. The only flip side here is whether Kone can convert their magic into a goal. Naismith and Osman both deserve a start and so does Barkley. So we have a slight problem of plenty on our attacking left and centre, assuming Lennon is sealed for the right flank. HowardColeman Jagielka Stones BainesMcCarthy Barry (the second name is a prediction, not a selection by any means)Lennon Naismith OsmanKoneSubs:1. Pienaar for Osman on the left (some game time for Pienaar)2. Mirallas for Lennon or Kone3. Barkley for Kone Jay Harris 4 Posted 10/04/2015 at 04:39:07 For me its Naismith and Barkley up front with Mirallas and Lennon on the flanks. Barry and Macca for the central MF.Maybe give Bainesy a rest and play Garbutt on condition he signs his contract. Jim Bennings 5 Posted 10/04/2015 at 08:28:55 If we play like we did last week, the chances are we may lose.Swansea, let's not forget, are playing free from pressure themselves and they are quite a decent side, especially at home.I seem to recall we very rarely do much in these early Saturday lunchtime matches so let's hope we can change that tomorrow.Looking at table, you would think we have to beat Swansea to have a slim outside chance of catching them. Colin Glassar 6 Posted 10/04/2015 at 08:31:59 Score draw written all over this one. Andrew Clare 7 Posted 10/04/2015 at 08:45:21 The way we have been playing, a defeat is the most likely result and Martinez will still be in a job! Max Wilson 9 Posted 10/04/2015 at 09:24:06 My mate and I will be there! We are Wales area blues. (I used to live in Bebington.) This time I just pray none of our Championship players will be picked. Our last visit to the Swans was humiliating and the Toffees from Liverpool could be seen outside, waiting to get back on the locked buses rather than watch any more useless running about with no result. Lawro (shit shirts) predicts we will draw. He could'nt bring himself to forecast success for us. He's a BSc (Econ); so am I, but I'm London Uni not Liverpool, so fuck off, Lawro! Will he predict FA Cup success for the RS? I don't expect anything from Kone. If we score I think it will be one of our talented centres and backs. Please, please no McGeady. Alan Bodell 10 Posted 10/04/2015 at 12:29:48 If Lukaku is not 100%, I'd like to see Kone again, just to see if he really is worth a first team place. He hasn't really had the chance to show if he can compete for that yet and now we are safe I'd like to see what he can do – or not.His first touch has been good mostly so a run of games may show that Martinez didn't bring him to us just for excellent medical care. That's what I'm hoping anyway Shaun Laycock 11 Posted 10/04/2015 at 13:07:28 HowardColeman Stones Jagielka GarbuttMcCarthy BainesLennon Barkley MirallasNaismithSubs: Robles, Alcaraz, Besic, Osman, Pienaar, Barry, Kone. Richard Lyons 12 Posted 10/04/2015 at 16:55:57 Well, I have to say the phrase "five points behind Stoke City" made me wince... I know it's been a crap season, but five points behind Stoke City? Dear, oh dear... Patrick Murphy 13 Posted 10/04/2015 at 17:18:04 Richard, don't forget that Stoke beat Everton home and away for the first time since 1966-67 so it's pretty good that we are only five points behind them? Jay Harris 14 Posted 10/04/2015 at 17:27:12 Patrick,"so it's pretty good that we are only five points behind them".I hope you didn't mean that. Patrick Murphy 15 Posted 10/04/2015 at 17:31:54 Jay - Of course not, that's why I put the question mark in. But it just shows that losing to teams both at home and away can make a huge difference to where a team sits in the league, mind you we did do the double over QPR. Richard Lyons 16 Posted 10/04/2015 at 17:39:29 Champion's League aspirations (as Bobby promised Bill we should have), and "5 points behind Stoke" are not mutually compatible... Chris Feeley 17 Posted 10/04/2015 at 17:45:57 Why are we scrambling around for a striker when we have someone on a month to month loan at Brentford who's scored 4 in 9 in the Championship since the end of January? Recall Chris Long and give him his chance. Mark Frere 18 Posted 10/04/2015 at 17:44:17 The rest of this season is a bit depressing because all we have to play for is a bit of extra cash for finishing higher up the table. There's a little bit of pride to salvage but regardless of how we finish the season, just about all the players and especially the manager can all hang their heads in shame!I would like to see Garbutt start for all the remaining games so he can show what he's capable of and hopefully sign a new contract. It would be interesting to see Baines partner McCarthy in midfield. Martinez has said Baines can play in midfield and with Barry fully in decline this season and Gibson injured, it should be the time try the experiment. We are really short of quality wide men at the moment. Pienaar wont be match fit yet, Mirallas is clearly out of favour due to bad attitude problems and Mcgeady still injured... but he still wont be missed! That leaves us with the headless chicken (Lennon) on the right and Osman out of position on the left – not ideal but very little alternatives.I would play:RoblesColeman Jagielka Stones GarbuttMcCarthy BainesLennon Barkley OsmanKone. Chris Gould 19 Posted 10/04/2015 at 17:51:15 Gibson is out so Osman needs to start. We have no forward thinking play without one or both of them in the side. Ross Edwards 20 Posted 10/04/2015 at 18:01:58 A game with nothing riding on it other than prize money that will inevitably go straight into Kenwright's pocket. I think Swansea will win. Monk knows Martinez inside out and already has him beaten tactically. Minik Hansen 21 Posted 10/04/2015 at 18:00:17 IF we play like against Southampton, we will win. Southampton are better than Swansea this season and with our current form, there is a good chance. Ross Edwards 22 Posted 10/04/2015 at 18:20:02 Minik, if we play like we did against Southampton, we will lose. We were shite as usual, the performance was awful and we were outplayed for most of the game. Eddie Dunn 23 Posted 10/04/2015 at 18:51:15 Chris 17; absolutely bang-on, mate. Long has to be worth a few games- he can't be any worse than any of the other stand-in strikers, can he? Sam Hoare 24 Posted 10/04/2015 at 18:18:08 Why not throw a few of the lads in?How about:RoblesColeman Stones Jagielka GarbuttMcCarthy LedsonLennon Barkley HenenKoneGood mix of youth and experience. I reckon that side would give a decent account and at least we'd have something to maybe get excited over.... Colin Glassar 25 Posted 10/04/2015 at 19:16:49 I'd like to see a team like that Sam but I think our aim is to get as many points as possible to move up a few places in the league. Top 10 must be our priority now and I don't think we will be experimenting as each place is worth a few bob. Jay Harris 26 Posted 10/04/2015 at 20:53:56 There is a danger in throwing too many of the "novices" in at once.I would give some of the kids a go but for 30 minutes a game and only one or two at a time.As someone said why not call Chris Long back and what the hell is going on with Garbutt's contract. Martin Mason 27 Posted 10/04/2015 at 21:32:13 This game will say a lot about where we are and where we could go next year. A win would cement our position as an improving side that is over its problems and could be a top 8 side should it reach its potential. A draw would be a good stepping stone on our road to improvement as they are a good side. A defeat would be a disaster because it would cement our position as a poor side that had a fluke season last year.I'd like to see Tom Cleverly at Everton at the right price. John Gee 28 Posted 10/04/2015 at 21:39:06 We were shite against Southampton, shite against QPR and lucky that most of the Newcastle team decided not to turn up for the game. Swansea are a very capable team. They pass and move while staying organised. We will only win if we put in a good performance and get the tactics right. Also, we're not mathematically safe from relegation. Football has a habit of kicking you in the nads and the pressure is most definitely on until relegation is impossible. Any thoughts of playing without pressure is just tempting fate.We've won 3 league games on the bounce for the first time this season. We're very capable of losing every one of our remaining games. The time to feel relieved isn't ours to enjoy just yet.Link Jim Hardin 29 Posted 10/04/2015 at 21:30:29 Why not start Osman out left and Mirallas out right (His best attacking is done from the right side but RM can't seem to figure it out but he isn't inflexible). Lennon can come on as a sub for Mirallas with Pienaar for Osman. Besic can then be subbed in for Barkley which thankfully would put him as far away from our goal as is possible so our other players have space and time to track back and win back his turnovers. John Gee 30 Posted 10/04/2015 at 21:39:49 Please ignore the link at the bottom of my previous post. It's not something I've tried to do. John Malone 31 Posted 10/04/2015 at 21:54:45 Kone's been a decent player in his time and he still is he's just not 100% fit. He's never going to be a twenty goal a season man but he's definitely got qualities to offer. If he plays a fit Pienaar and Kone together they will make chances! Ian McDowell 32 Posted 10/04/2015 at 22:07:49 Can someone please tell me what Besic offers? To me he is just a headless chicken who can't make a forward pass. Ian McDowell 33 Posted 10/04/2015 at 22:09:10 Jay @ 26 Garbutt's contract I give up on. If this full back the best crosser of a ball at the minute in the league is allowed to leave for free then no wonder we are fucked financially. Stephen O'Donnell 34 Posted 10/04/2015 at 22:08:14 Please, Blues, another 3 points tomorrow. Sick of this 4-3-2-1 formation. 4-4-2 always, Roberto. Tom Cleverly linked yet again. No thank you. Makes Osman look like Xavi. Harold Matthews 36 Posted 10/04/2015 at 22:26:15 I'll be amazed and delighted if we get something out of this one. Peter Barry 37 Posted 11/04/2015 at 06:54:17 Mirallas's best position for Everton is Left Out. James Marshall 38 Posted 11/04/2015 at 07:14:40 So, now that the Fantasy Managers have had their say, we'll try a bit of reality. Top sportsmen and managers/coaches don't just drop people because 'it's worth giving someone else a go'. The reality is that there are established players in numerous positions in all teams, and that's how it is.I know your speculation on these threads is all a bit of fun, but really? Some of the team selections and claims for players to be brought back from loans because we lack a bit up front without Lukaku? Come on, those players are on loan for good reasons, and playing for other teams for good reason - you can't just haul them back because Lukaku is injured for a week! One of you even has Henen in the team!! James Marshall 39 Posted 11/04/2015 at 07:24:25 Oh and Ian, on Besic - I have no idea what he offers either. He's neither one thing or another, which I assume is the reason he doesn't play very often.File under: half decent but not really that good. Jimmy Salt 40 Posted 11/04/2015 at 09:18:16 Peter (37) Dont let sentiment rule your head, Mirralles is one of our best players and should start if available. Trevor Peers 41 Posted 11/04/2015 at 10:16:03 The only role Mirallas should have is on the bench, he doesn't want to play for the blues anymore and it shows. We can't have players not giving 100% and he needs to because he's just not that good. He' s attitude stinks Colin Glassar 42 Posted 11/04/2015 at 10:17:33 James #38, excellent points. I read the other day a great quote about us all being football managers at heart but to be in the hot seat must be a completely different kettle of fish. I think we should all stick to playing fantasy football.I don't agree with your post #39 tho. Mo Besic is going to be a huge player for us in either MF or as CB. Give him time to bulk up and get a bit more experience. Peter Mills 43 Posted 11/04/2015 at 10:25:02 It's a beautiful day in South Wales, a bit nippy. Perfect day for a match. I'm going to just relax, watch it calmly, view it objectively. James Hughes 44 Posted 11/04/2015 at 10:38:44 I am not going to be able to watch as I am having a medical assessment at 1pm, nothing serious thankfully. So good luck to the boys and I have had my massive ٠ on Coleman & 1-.0. Lets make amends for the dire last outing against them COYB Dick Brady 45 Posted 11/04/2015 at 11:02:19 Mirallas is a good player when he wants to be but he has no love for Everton and is going to leave the first chance he gets. Most likely Lukaku will join him. Neither of them have the passion for the club needed to become legends like Big Dunc. Laurie Hartley 46 Posted 11/04/2015 at 10:51:10 I agree with Colin about Mo Besic. He has got talent, a winning mentality, and is as hard as nails. He will be the minder for the next great Everton team.No I haven't been on the turps but as they say it is always darkest before the dawn and it couldn't have got any darker than it was before the Newcastle win.Assuming Lukaku won't make it this is the team I would like to see sent out against Swansea:Howard,Coleman, Stones, Jagielka, BainesLennon, McCarthy, Besic, PienaarMirallas, BarkleyKone on for Mirallas if he doesn't turn up.Summer is coming.Up the Blues!! Andrew Cunningham 47 Posted 11/04/2015 at 11:21:44 My memories of big Dunc aren't of a blue legend. Regularly injured and getting sent off at the worst possible times (0-2) up against Leicester years back come to mind. I also think he left Everton for Newcastle and I think he may have scored against us. But then again he said after he came back that he didn't really want to leave so that makes it ok. Ah well, better batten down the hatches. Kevin Naylor 48 Posted 11/04/2015 at 11:35:57 Andrew while not a legend in the playing sense of the word, I cant remember a player in the last 30 years that regularly got the crowd up and excited. So for me he deserves the status on that alone. Kevin Naylor 49 Posted 11/04/2015 at 11:38:25 Make that another player FFS Brian Harrison 50 Posted 11/04/2015 at 11:31:56 I haven't seen anything from Besic that makes me think he is going to improve the team. Laurie mentions that he has a winning mentality surely all players have a winning mentality and as for being hard as nails what like Cattermole. I think it just shows how low our expectations are when some have Besic as an integral part of our team. As for Ferguson being a legend I don't get it, I could name 30 centre forwards for Everton who were better than him. He put himself about in some of the big games other than that he was anonymous in a lot of the games, oh thats when he was fit enough to play. Tony Byrne 51 Posted 11/04/2015 at 11:32:42 I won't be bothering to watch the game today,I prefer to take my kids out to the park instead.I was at the Southampton game last week, it was pretty awful regardless of the result. I have had enough of RM,his tactics,playing Barry & Howard no matter how bad they perform. His after match comments etc etc.We have all had our ups & downs watching Everton over the years but this season has just drained the life out of me, I have never felt so disinterested. Ian McDowell 52 Posted 11/04/2015 at 11:45:53 No Lukaku. Kone up front Paul Dark 53 Posted 11/04/2015 at 11:46:49 While McGeady remains injured, there's always a chance we can nick 1 or 3 points here. Jon Withey 54 Posted 11/04/2015 at 11:41:30 Ferguson was unplayable on his day and any opposition visibly shrank when he came on.Every Everton era has it's icon and he was that in some pretty dark times. Followed by Tim Cahill for me. Michael Winstanley 55 Posted 11/04/2015 at 11:50:29 Howard, Coleman, Baines, Jagielka, Stones, Barry, McCarthy, Lennon, Barkley, Osman, KoneEverton substitutes: Robles, Alcaraz, Garbutt, Besic, Pienaar, Naismith, Mirallas Andrew Cunningham 56 Posted 11/04/2015 at 11:45:56 Kevin #48 That makes a lot of sense and now I understand what the hype is or was all about. I stand corrected . Ernie Baywood 57 Posted 11/04/2015 at 11:55:31 Jon Withey - can you think if anyone post Cahill who would fit the mantle?I'm not sure anyone is even close? Certainly not as an icon, legend. But even as a crowd favourite? It shows how low we've sunk that I'd give anything for Deulofeu to be in our team today. Just something to get excited about from time to time. Ernie Baywood 58 Posted 11/04/2015 at 12:01:22 That's a very selective memory you have Andrew Cunningham (#47). You remember his bad moments, don't remember his good and great, and seem to have forgotten most of the issues surrounding his first exit from Goodison.Whether he's classified as a legend is very open for debate. The circumstances of his departure, less so. Jon Withey 59 Posted 11/04/2015 at 12:04:33 I can think of some who have the potential - but no-one has even been consistent in effort this season - which is the minimum requirement for an Evertonian !Last seasons' Coleman was getting there but I don't know where he disappeared to !Certainly Stones, Barkley, Besic have it in them. Colin Glassar 60 Posted 11/04/2015 at 12:15:08 This has got draw written all over it. Jon Withey 61 Posted 11/04/2015 at 12:18:20 Colin, that's probably not a bad result considering our season.I just don't want to see the return of the defensive calamities. Colin Glassar 62 Posted 11/04/2015 at 12:21:47 I like the Swansea manager. He also does very well as a judge on The Voice. Laurie Hartley 63 Posted 11/04/2015 at 11:50:19 Brian, given a decent run in the team Besic will be an improvement on Barry or Gibson. I know he has made a couple if howlers but I also remember his first touch in an Everton shirt. That is what he is capable of.I have to disagree with you about all players having a winning mentality - I don't think they do. I am sure all players want to win, but wanting to win and fighting tooth and nail to win are two entirely different things. This is a player who has all but marked both Baile and Messi out of a games in his young career - he is only 22.Hard as nails? No not like Cattermole - like Tony Kay, Johnny Morrisey, Peter Reid, Pat van den Hauwe etc. He doesn't seem to get injured much either.As far as expectations are concerned mine have never changed - I expect Everton to be great again one day. Paul Thompson 65 Posted 11/04/2015 at 12:29:29 Not an inspiring line-up. Kone surely owes us something, anything... before being substituted. We'll be lucky to get anything out of this. Hope I'm proved wrong. Bill Gall 66 Posted 11/04/2015 at 12:33:33 Their are good players there. but no matter who the manager is he has to have a system that makes it a good team. Colin Glassar 67 Posted 11/04/2015 at 12:35:59 Doesn't look like Chris. COYB!! Kevin Tully 68 Posted 11/04/2015 at 12:36:45 Howard's performances being dissected for a change. 15 clean sheets last season, 5 this season. I don't care what anyone says, he's turned what would have been an average season 8th/9th into a relegation battle. I would break the bank for Cech next season. I said Forster was the best signing Southampton had made - he leads the way with 13 clean sheets so far this season, and has been instrumental in their great League campaign. Roberto Birquet 69 Posted 11/04/2015 at 12:45:52 So where's da Forum at? Eric Myles 70 Posted 11/04/2015 at 12:47:03 Any streams to watch it on?? David Greenwood 72 Posted 11/04/2015 at 12:47:18 Lets do this Everton. Craig Gordon would have been a snip in the summer. Available on a free. Would be a couple of million now. Forster would have been really good as well. Roberto Birquet 73 Posted 11/04/2015 at 12:58:25 http://atdhe.fm/soccer/stream-3c0776-swansea-city-vs-Everton Ernie Baywood 75 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:08:25 Roberto http://ToffeeWeb.com/comment/live/ Kevin Elliott 76 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:08:57 Where is the forum? Chris James 77 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:02:00 Hang on, a tactical change...after 27 minutes?The sun must be getting to Martinez! ;-) Chris James 78 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:14:04 Ah, groin problem...that makes more sense. Phew, I was worried for a minute Robbie might be catching 'tactics'! Eugene Ruane 79 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:17:07 Continue to stand off Shelvey and him scoring is a nap. Eugene Ruane 80 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:17:58 And Kone's control is truly shocking, every ball into him he's given away. Jon Withey 81 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:26:12 :) Eugene Ruane 82 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:27:18 Get in! 0-1, Lennon. Colin Glassar 83 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:27:36 Nice team goal. Colin Glassar 84 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:29:09 Bainaar are back!! Kevin Tully 85 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:33:26 Looked very good there for last 20. Why didn't Barkley put Kone away there? Eugene Ruane 86 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:32:50 Picked up since Pienaar came on. David Sheen 88 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:35:15 Pienaar has completely changed the game and shown what Everton have been missing going forward. He helps Baines go forward and defensively, and it also opens up space for Coleman. It just shows you how important Pienaar has been to this team over the years. Colin Glassar 91 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:39:32 And written off by so many David. Pienaar might be coming to the end of his career but he can still play his part. Kevin Tully 92 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:41:11 Tim Howard's save was brilliant, but why the fuck is always so far off his line? If he's back a couple of yards, it's an easy save. Eric Myles 93 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:47:10 Thanks Robert. I found one on Front Row Sports that is pretty good Karl Jones 94 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:53:24 Kone= F****'n hopeless! Chris James 95 Posted 11/04/2015 at 13:57:54 Can we play these every week? ;-) Eugene Ruane 97 Posted 11/04/2015 at 14:05:14 Too early for that Chris, this is Everton, plus we need to get that puddin' off before he's sent off. Eugene Ruane 99 Posted 11/04/2015 at 14:07:09 Nais warming up.....so he'll be on at 87 mins. Chris James 100 Posted 11/04/2015 at 14:11:35 Indeed I spoke way too soon. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. About these ads © ToffeeWeb