Jagielka says Rooney could return one day

I donÂ’t hate him anymore. I hate our club for not providing the infrastructure to have made him want to stay.

And I hate our club for not having done ANYTHING for the next Wayne Rooney to come through to look around and see the possibility of achieving his ambitions with us.

Same old tired ground, same financing issues, same poor transfer budget, same low non match day income, same old Â’weÂ’re looking for investors not buyersÂ’ mantra.

Nothing has changed so if Stones and/or Barkley become true players, theyÂ’ll be off before we know it and the chairman will pocket 70% of the wedge and make the remaining 30% available for transfers. Brilliant!

Footballers were no longer heroes, loyalty didnÂ’t matter anymore, money was everything. Who wants to grow up with that reality?

The last bit of naïve kid in me always wanted him to one day say "I’m rejecting a new contract and any other clubs because I want to go back to Everton". Getting a bit late now.

Do I want him as the owner / Chairman? No, but it serves little purpose individuals crying foul when itÂ’s so blatantly untrue. If it was the case that money was being transferred to his account, IÂ’m sure somebody somewhere would pull him up about it.

Whilst there is no proof, all that such accusations do is undermine those who do want him removed from the club in his present position and false allegations only serve BillÂ’s purposes and not those who wish to see the back of him.

I never have done, and never will dislike him - he was a kid when he left and it was no doubt, all out of his hands. Everton needed the cash, and they got it, end of story.

Evertonians laying into him are wasting their breath.

I hope he comes back one day, maybe when he’s about 32 for a few years – I think even the haters would secretly enjoy that. He’d have plenty to offer as a midfielder at that stage of his career.

That says a lot these days about his popularity, and commercial value. He has massive sponsorship deals with major companies too which would be unlikely to hold the same interest if he came to a tinpot outfit like Everton.

Many say he never lived up to his earlier hype; but look at his trophy cabinet.

My only regret was that he didnÂ’t leave earlier in the window and give BK no option but to spend money on a replacement. Instead, it was too late and we went on to finish 4th; how did that happen again?

"Could come back" is a tabloid headline. "Will come back" is a different kettle of fish, but why would he?

The best thing he can do for Everton is stay at Man Utd on stupid money then retire and buy the club and employ some people with a vision and ambition to take things forwards.

It wonÂ’t happen though, Kenwright will sanction a deal and Robert will wheel him out as a fat 36-year-old with a comb-over at season ticket renewal time.

The captain of our club saying he expects plenty of changes. YouÂ’d expect him to be privy to most goings on at the top of the club given his senior status. We can of course speculate who the inÂ’s and outÂ’s might be but, truth be told, weÂ’re all guessing. I just hope we can hang on to the likes of Stones, Lukaku and, I know heÂ’s not everyoneÂ’s favourite, but Mirallas too.

Hopefully the biggest change of all comes from the top. Martinez needs to buck his ideas up. Tactically, basic fitness, his team selections and this whole Â’experience over formÂ’ nonsense has to improve if we are going to get anywhere next season. I am ever the optimist regarding Everton. I genuinely believe we are a special club. Right now I am finding it hard to get excited about anything though. I really hope that can be put right. A 4-0 romp over Man Utd today would be a good start.

We had the farce of the big African on loan for cover, scores a dodgy goal then he kept Kone company in the treatment room

But nothing will surprise me in the summer. The only certain is there will be plenty for us to debate.

Also, the structuring of the deal was different to how Man Utd normally do deals. The 㾶m up front, 㾶m year 2, and the rest on fulfilment clauses (which were always going to be fulfilled at some point over the following 3 years) – that was all EvertonÂ’s insistence to stagger the payments to avoid the clamour to "spend the Rooney money" which would inevitably have followed.

Unrelated, but I like the way Newcastle shafted Liverpool over the Carroll transfer. They knew theyÂ’d just sold Torres, and were desperate, so not only did they put a price of 㿏m on him, but demanded the entire fee up front – as it was late in the window, Liverpool capitulated. And he was pony!

I hate our club for not providing the infrastructure to have made him want to stay. And I hate our club for not having done ANYTHING for the next Wayne Rooney to come through to look around and see the possibility of achieving his ambitions with us.

ThatÂ’s a lot of hate.

I also heard about him screaming all over Finch Farm at David Moyes about wanting to go to Man Utd just a few months after we finished 17th. Then I read comments he made about playing for Manure in the Champions League and how you would never play in games like that for a club like Everton.

I made a promise a long time ago that if he comes back to Everton I will give up my season ticket I will never go to watch Everton live if he is playing for us.

And I donÂ’t blame Rooney at all, I just feel sorry we never had him. He wonÂ’t come back whilst Manure pay him 5 times what we would.

Also is this interview not similar to one Jags gave earlier in season.

He went on and won everything so good luck to the lad, I'd have him back tomorrow.

Like you and many others, I too too thought the world would come to an end when Bally was sold. There have been many players since who I have admired, even loved, but for me, BallyÂ’s shoes have never quite been filled.

Rooney could have been the man, but he chose another path. His trophy cabinet may well be better stocked than it would have been if he stayed, so too is his bank balance, but IMO, by signing for a club where he would be just another superstar, he gave up the chance to become a truly world class player.

Running to celebrate RonaldoÂ’s last-minute penalty in front of the Evertonians even though the kick was taken at the Stretford End did it for me. There was 70,000 Mancs he could have run to.

"Always a blue" ? ... please, stop.

Given their hatred of all things Scouse, I quite like the idea of their greatest goal-scorer ever being a Scouser.

Look at the debt Everton still hold, then go back eleven years to remember the shambles the club was in, when he left. ItÂ’s quite possible that the money Everton received for Rooney saved our future, it definitely must have taken the pressure off with the banks.

IÂ’m sure he loves Everton and would want to play for them again but, as Jagielka says, if he doesnÂ’t want it to end in tears, it would have to be soon.

HeÂ’s done some stupid things like Darren says, but IÂ’m sure he does love Everton. Anyone who gives a brass their autograph is obviously a crank, and as the great man said. ONCE EVERTON HAS TOUCHED YOU!

I donÂ’t hate him and never have and would like to see him play for us again (if fit and able). Unfortunately, I donÂ’t see it ever happening. There is no way under this board we could afford him!

I personally think heÂ’s a fantastic player but I donÂ’t think for one minute heÂ’d ever come back here, and why would he? Hardly an attractive proposition, are we? Oh and Nick (#10), how do you do a combover on a wig? Just a thought, like...

He followed the money. He may have been young, and had a bunch of snakes advising him, but he dropped us.

Have some pride. He went out of the door and took the golden purse, so let him live in Mancdom with his phoney admirers, who secretly hate him because he is a souser.

He also mentions unhappy players as theyÂ’re not getting enough games. Wonder how many that could be? Garbutt, Oviedo, Robles?

Both Manchester United and Everton came out of it better teams, and we had some funds with which Moyes could rebuild, which he did. I agree also with Eugene that Wazza will want to break that United goalscoring record before he even contemplates moving on, by which time he will be the wrong side of 30. ItÂ’s just not going to happen.

Bring back Big Nev as well. We may never fill the stadium but we will certainly fill our goal when defending corners.

IÂ’m not accusing Kenwright of taking money out of the club. Please re read my post.

My annoyance is that when Rooney came through, we didnÂ’t have the basis of a club to make him believe he could achieve his ambitions with us.

And for any other potential stars (Barkley, Stones), nothing has changed. We havenÂ’t done anything to improve the club as a whole. ThatÂ’s negligent and poor business sense.

ThatÂ’s whatÂ’s upset me. Why would any future stars stay with us?

Rooney is not a true Evertonian; money went to his head and he fucked off. If Rooney really loved Everton Football Club, he would have stayed for a while longer.

As I said before, football is about money, not about the passion for the club. If you're "once a blue, always a blue" then your passion lies with Everton Football Club. Rooney isn’t a blue – he is all for Man United. Fuck Rooney.

I remember in one of the first games when he came back, he made a great move and finished with a shot just off target, I involuntary clapped him, as I do with all good play. regardless of who does it, this loon rushes down to me with the veins sticking out of neck screaming "You’re not clapping that bastard are you?" I looked at him and said "I wish we had eleven bastards like him" – and I still do.

Stories of him screaming all over Finch Farm? What? First of all, Finch Farm wasnÂ’t even open when Rooney was at Everton so thatÂ’s the first of your inaccuracies, the rest is pure fantasy.

He kissed the badge in front of a baying mob of mindless Evertonians hell bent on spitting vitriolic hatred at him – what do you expect him to do in return?

Have some perspective.

Get real ffs, he was little more than a child when he wore the ’once a blue’ t-shirt (14? 15?) he kissed the Man Utd badge in response to 40,000 singing that his wife takes it up the arse or that he’s a fat little nob-head or whatever – and they ALL follow the money, including everyone who plays for us.

Sad that we couldnÂ’t keep him, but if you think it was as simple as Â’he dropped usÂ’, youÂ’re deluded.

Because of the staggeringly inept way weÂ’re run, we needed the money and his sale provided it.

I wouldnÂ’t.

I completely respect him for it, in fact – Rooney has had untold stick from Evertonians for 11 years, and has handled it as well as could be expected in my opinion.

He left Everton because Everton is a badly run football club that needed the money. That is a fact.

Remember Paul Lake at Man City – one minute touted as the next Bobby Moore; next minute, career over. Yes, Wayne made a bad decision to kiss the badge etc but he was very young and, whilst I swore at the TV when he did it, I can remember when I was 18 and may have done the same with fans giving me all sorts of abuse for having moved.

Maybe Wayne can get together with the incredibly rich Tommy Gravesen and form their own consortium to buy the club – that would make for interesting times!

I misinterpreted what you wrote but I didnÂ’t misread it, I understand your sentiments in the context of the club withholding funds for new players and as you say it can be very frustrating, but that is how the club has been run for at least a couple of decades.

I like the idea of it, but thatÂ’s just me being a sentimental softie. ItÂ’s all a bit Boys own, Rover, Wizard, Roy of the Rovers, Limp-a-long Leslie, tbh.

Back in the real world: we give too many, too old players, too long a contract as it is.

Probably unrealistic but would be very beneficial for us, on and more so off the pitch.

As for kissing the badge etc, would have taken a saint to not have done something like that given the constant goading...

So he was young, so what? It is simple for me. He decided to go, and he didnÂ’t go for the sake of the clubÂ’s bank balance, but his own.

ItÂ’s not personal, I like him and have always enjoyed watching him, but he had made his bed. I hate this small-time bullshit, have some balls. He let us down, and for all we know, that could at the time been the thing that relegated us the next season. We didnÂ’t know that we would play better without him. It was an admission from our club, of weakness.

Watch today, Eugene, and see if he celebrates if he scores, or if his mate scores, and then tell me that he should come back when heÂ’s got no pace and fancies a final pay-day, so he can make friends again, so no hard feelings etc.

That’s the problem – he’d be over the hill and probably a divisive figure in the dressing room, as he always liked to be the ’main man’. No doubt he would be the highest paid player and demand to play every game. So I’m not sure it would be good for us or him to come back as half the player he was when he left.

I donÂ’t think heÂ’s too attached to Man Utd. The club was/is a vehicle for what he truly loves – money! Remember in the last years of FergieÂ’s regime he came out with that guff about how Man Utd didnÂ’t match his ambition. He then got his 𧷤k a week. Surprisingly when Moyes took over and they were seriously shit there was not a dicky bird from him about Man Utd not matching his ambition – could there be 300,000 reasons for his silence!!

Although most people seem to have forgiven his youthful indiscretions, he is such an unpleasant personality, IÂ’m not sure we should welcome him back.

Jimmy Mac maybe my favorite player but I thinking I"ll cry even more when we loose Stones. Stones is going to be world class while Jimmy will remain one of the hardest workers in the game.

However, I did mean withholding funds.

We should have made a better club to make a better team to make better players want to stay.

No doubt it was Christmas and snowing and the sad-faced childrenÂ’s daddy couldnÂ’t afford the rent, so the landlord (who had a cape, a top-hat and was twizzling his muzzy) wanted to throw them all out onto the street.

So Rooney is so good he can’t play for a little club like Everton unless it’s a little pay off for when he can no longer get in Man Utd’s team? We are Everton Football Club – so sad that even most of the fans have forgotten what that means. Twenty years ago, we had won more Championships than Man Utd.

And we say weÂ’re not interested...

In all seriousness, is kissing the badge in front of disabled people a more heinous crime? I think itÂ’s you who is, well, missing several points.

I tried to raise the question on the Radio 5 phone in without response - will be interesting to see if it is air brushed out of MotD tonight...

That is the big thing that riles me about Rooney leaving. We all react sometimes in the heat of the moment, and IÂ’m sure he has several incidents that he regrets from his career. But why didnÂ’t he stay with us until he was maybe 21? We would have had a few more memories, we would have received more money, and IÂ’m sure he would have avoided some of the bile generated towards him...

Although for the rest of the game we were called all the cunts under the sun, bless them.

Worst post for a long time, nothing more winds me up about my club.

It’s views like that which are crippling our great club and why we are stuck in the past with a wooden stadium and shocking revenue streams – a selling club! It won’t be long before Stones, Coleman and Barkley will be more family silver sold off

The man is a phoney, a liar heÂ’s a bloody actor for goodness sake heÂ’s good at blagging!!!

Just cos he is a Blue doesnÂ’t mean we have to support him.

And?

What... are you suggesting, that you had a great view of how upset the disabled children were at RooneyÂ’s badge-kissing?

Sorry, but so blinded are you by your hatred of Rooney, maybe you can’t see the obvious – that the disabled children (that you desperately use to ’strengthen’ you argument) might have found a man kissing a badge less offensive than thousands of adults around them spitting venom about Colleen ’taking it up the arse’ (or whatever).

Did you ask them?

Reality: Thousands of Everton supporters were doing their utmost to offend the player in the most offensive way, he simply responded in kind when he got the chance.

Remember, Rooney’s action was a REaction – imo, a completely normal, natural one given the circumstances.

And no doubt had he instead just stood there and looked terrified or confused (as many seem to think he should have), people would now be posting "Ha ha ha, remember when he was getting loads of stick about shagging grannies and he just stood there like a big shit-house, his bottle proper went lad" etc.

By the way, as for all the sanctimonious Â’no true Evertonian...Â’ nonsense, IÂ’d have thought no true Evertonian would ever want Everton to lose a game, but there were loads (including on TW) practically begging for it before last seasonÂ’s home game against Man City.

He responds to stick, itÂ’s in his make up, but when he doesnÂ’t get any maybe his mind drifts. Maybe heÂ’s thinking I wish I was in blue today?

He left after the Euros in 2004, maybe he will return after the next Euros in 2016. If he does, he would be coming into a much better team than the one he left. Who knows?

I even wrote to the FA in BartonÂ’s support pointing out that it was the only moment of entertainment in an otherwise tedious and forgettable display.

I hope they donÂ’t get Top 4 even if it means the RS do and I donÂ’t say things like that often or lightly.

I wouldnÂ’t be upset if he came back but only if he improved the team. DonÂ’t want a sentimental return when he is the size of Big Nev and his hair weaves donÂ’t match the colour of his greying sides. Either way, IÂ’m not going to be upset if he doesnÂ’t come back.

He did what all other brilliant footballers do, he went to the best team at the time and has a bunchload of medals and shitload of dosh in his bank. It has always happened and it always will.

But fact is we canÂ’t pay him 𧷤k a week so he wonÂ’t ever play for us while heÂ’s a top top player, and thatÂ’s the top and bottom of it.
Unless a billionaire buys us very very soon, Rooney will never break records at Everton.

I donÂ’t hate Wayne Rooney; frankly, I donÂ’t really care where he plays his football as long as it is not at Everton. Yes, he took a lot of abuse from the Everton fans and he equally did his best to give insults back in whatever way he could. He is not stupid; he would know very well the kind of reception he would get by using the methods he did to leave the club. I mean Francis Jeffers had left the club and Rooney reacted to his (Jeffers) celebration against Everton with his shirt in the Youth Cup Final.

He has an attitude. I was at the game against Bolton (away) when he got a strop on with Moyes for subbing him even though he was just a teenage boy with a crappy attitude who simply thought he was bigger and better than little Everton.

You donÂ’t care about the disrespect that he showed the club because I have doubts you grew up in the 1990s (like I did and like Rooney) and experienced what it was like growing up to support those Everton teams. If he really loved the club the way a true Evertonian, he wouldnÂ’t have done the things he did.

So why would I want to see somebody that was disrespectful to my club come back and play for them? Btw, the reason he gets such abuse even now when he comes back to Everton is because most of the Evertonians donÂ’t want him back at the club and all his PR spinning wonÂ’t change opinion.

No way back for Mr Man Utd, please!

If it hadn't bothered him he may have done nothing but it was a hot-headed reaction - put yourself in his position as a lifelong Evertonian who was sold, probably against his wishes.. I wouldn't have known what to do with myself in those circumstances.

As to whether he would come back, I think we have to meet him half way.

As others have said, he has one of the most valuable brands in sport. Moving back to his boyhood club in its current format would signal a retrograde step or even the beginning of the end a la a Beckham move to LA Galaxy.

I think we would have to be in a position where we were challenging for, or already playing, Champions League football for him to return in his prime so as not to diminish his brand too much.

Conversely, his return would do wonders for Everton's brand if our commercial team could... never mind.

I went on the official website last night to buy a junior home kit and the only ones they had were the Europa league home kits with Lennons name on the back. He couldnt even play in Europe ffs.

He decided to turn his back on us...he took the money. He whored himself out to the enemy, then he committed treason in front of his own people, kissing that dirty badge.(players get horrid stick all the time- it doesn’t mean you have to disrespect everyone in the ground, not just those who are winding you up)
He is not worthy of the blue shirt anymore.

(tuts, wearily shakes head and rolls eyes)

Yeah I heard he also bummed a frog, kicked a cripple's stick away, shat down the chimney of an orphanage, taped an episode of Howard's Way over his mam and dad's wedding video and shot a load of 'baby-batter' into Moyes' egg salad when Moyes knocked the chips on the head in the Utd canteen.

Bummed a frog? Not sure about that one but I can well believe all the others.

All, obviously except kicking the cripple's stick away. That's Duncan Ferguson you've confused him with, that is....

Again this is only an opinion, he's never going to come back, so fuck him!! I must say though he's still a top top footballer.